------------

18) People should be taught critical thinking, research, and skepticism;
that faith without evidence is foolish; that rigid belief stifles
progress and fosters fanaticism; that fairy tales are fairy tales.

By: Witziges Rätsel
Nominated: Bob White
Seconded: Carl Kaufmann

8) Orientals must be a pain in the ***** for Christians. The Chinese have
recorded history that pre-dates some of the alleged stuff in the bible.
How come there is no Chinese book that says "we were under water for 40
days, how the hell did that happen?"

By: Mischa van Dinter
Nominated: MarkA
Seconded: Douglas Berry

We're still drying out from Hurricane Isabel here, but at least the
weather has broken a little and there's a slight chill to the air. I
just love the times when seasons change.

Here are the nominations for Atheist Quote of the Month for September
2003. Vote for your favorite by responding to this thread. Votes will be
accepted until midnight, September 30. See rules below. Questions?
Comments? Email me.

* * * * *

8) Orientals must be a pain in the ***** for Christians. The Chinese have
recorded history that pre-dates some of the alleged stuff in the bible.
How come there is no Chinese book that says "we were under water for 40
days, how the hell did that happen?"

By: Mischa van Dinter
Nominated: MarkA
Seconded: Douglas Berry

1) Hey Moore, looks like your magic rock done got itself raptured
right outta the rotunda this morning! Your threescore of toothless
prayer-hicks said that GAWD would keep your magical rock from moving
one inch, but all it took was a couple of movers and some man-made
simple machines (specifically some wheels and wedges) and that big
ole' godrock rolled quite easily away. I'm glad my teevee had
picture-in-picture so that I could watch two live cable networks at
once and catch two different camera-angles of your big ego-feuled
graven image eyesore hauling ***** right outta there!

[John faces due-east and sways]

Na na. NA NA NA NA. HEY HEY HEY. GOODBYE!!!!!!

Na na. NA NA NA NA. HEY HEY HEY. GOODBYE!!!!!!

By: John Hattan
Nominated: nemo
Seconded: Liz

17) Sorry fishboy, but you've already proven your evil agenda with your
rhetoric about magical talking end-of-the-world fish. You don't want an
enlightened populace but a fearful one that fears a demon haunted world
that could end any minute. Only problem is that the demons and monsters
have been scared away by science and are now only living under the beds
of the fearful. And those fearful want to elevate their position not by
losing their own fear but by trying to make everyone else as fearful as
they are.
And that, my fishy friend, is evil.
By: John Hattan
Nominated: Elroy Willis
Seconded: Mark K. Bilbo

We're still drying out from Hurricane Isabel here, but at least the
weather has broken a little and there's a slight chill to the air. I
just love the times when seasons change.

Here are the nominations for Atheist Quote of the Month for September
2003. Vote for your favorite by responding to this thread.

* * * * *
1) Hey Moore, looks like your magic rock done got itself raptured right
outta the rotunda this morning! Your threescore of toothless
prayer-hicks said that GAWD would keep your magical rock from moving one
inch, but all it took was a couple of movers and some man-made simple
machines (specifically some wheels and wedges) and that big ole' godrock
rolled quite easily away. I'm glad my teevee had picture-in-picture so
that I could watch two live cable networks at once and catch two
different camera-angles of your big ego-feuled graven image eyesore
hauling ***** right outta there!

[John faces due-east and sways]

Na na. NA NA NA NA. HEY HEY HEY. GOODBYE!!!!!!

Na na. NA NA NA NA. HEY HEY HEY. GOODBYE!!!!!!

By: John Hattan
Nominated: nemo
Seconded: Liz
------------

5) They should, rather, be out collecting EVIDENCE, not signatures, if
they were honest.

By: Klaus Hellnick
Nominated: John Wilkins
Seconded: LP
------------
15) "we who built America"?
You wouldn't be talking about those same people who had so little faith
in their God's ability to protect them that they *fled* European
persecution by others who believed just as passionately in that same
myth to move to the USA, then robbed the locals of their land,
livelihoods, belief system and self respect, and now want to oppress
everyone who doesn't buy into their self-sustaining lies, would you?

By: Budikka
Nominated: towelie
Seconded: Mekkala

We're still drying out from Hurricane Isabel here, but at least the
weather has broken a little and there's a slight chill to the air. I
just love the times when seasons change.

Here are the nominations for Atheist Quote of the Month for September
2003. Vote for your favorite by responding to this thread. Votes will be
accepted until midnight, September 30. See rules below. Questions?
Comments? Email me.

17) Sorry fishboy, but you've already proven your evil agenda with your
rhetoric about magical talking end-of-the-world fish. You don't want an
enlightened populace but a fearful one that fears a demon haunted world
that could end any minute. Only problem is that the demons and monsters
have been scared away by science and are now only living under the beds
of the fearful. And those fearful want to elevate their position not by
losing their own fear but by trying to make everyone else as fearful as
they are.

And that, my fishy friend, is evil.

By: John Hattan
Nominated: Elroy Willis
Seconded: Mark K. Bilbo

1) Hey Moore, looks like your magic rock done got itself raptured right
outta the rotunda this morning! Your threescore of toothless
prayer-hicks said that GAWD would keep your magical rock from moving one
inch, but all it took was a couple of movers and some man-made simple
machines (specifically some wheels and wedges) and that big ole' godrock
rolled quite easily away. I'm glad my teevee had picture-in-picture so
that I could watch two live cable networks at once and catch two
different camera-angles of your big ego-feuled graven image eyesore
hauling ***** right outta there!

[John faces due-east and sways]

Na na. NA NA NA NA. HEY HEY HEY. GOODBYE!!!!!!

Na na. NA NA NA NA. HEY HEY HEY. GOODBYE!!!!!!

By: John Hattan
Nominated: nemo
Seconded: Liz

18) People should be taught critical thinking, research, and skepticism;
that faith without evidence is foolish; that rigid belief stifles
progress and fosters fanaticism; that fairy tales are fairy tales.

By: Witziges Rätsel
Nominated: Bob White
Seconded: Carl Kaufmann

4) Another Christian chimes in, cute.

Our purpose is to enjoy life, and to ensure an enjoyable life for future
generations.

Your purpose is to fullfill the purpose of another being, which just
might not exist.

Good luck!

By: Lawrence Seib
Nominated: david asman
Seconded: Doubting Thomas

------------

16) In response to:

Of course. The Bible is inerrant, and that's what it says. But you have to
redefine what you mean by "chew the cud" and "birds" i order to make it
fit with reality. ;-)

Oh *I get it. *Reality is errant!

By: Mark K. Bilbo
Nominated: Douglas Berry
Seconded: John Hattan

7) there's a difference between psuedo- and the real thing? I didn't
know that. I thought that a real Christian is whoever is talking, and a
psuedo- is whomever he's talking about.

By: J Forbes
Nominated: towelie
Seconded: Fear gan dia

16) In response to:

Of course. The Bible is inerrant, and that's what it says. But you have
to
redefine what you mean by "chew the cud" and "birds" i order to make it
fit with reality. ;-)

Oh *I get it. *Reality is errant!

By: Mark K. Bilbo
Nominated: Douglas Berry
Seconded: John Hattan

12) I would have thought that the Saudis would love Barbie dolls.
After all they can't speak and someone else has to direct every single
movement they make...just the way they like to treat real women!

By: Clayton Aguilera the Dirty Pierced Nipple *****
Nominated: Adam Marczyk
Seconded: towelie

------------

16) In response to:

Of course. The Bible is inerrant, and that's what it says. But you have to
redefine what you mean by "chew the cud" and "birds" i order to make it
fit with reality. ;-)

Oh *I get it. *Reality is errant!

By: Mark K. Bilbo
Nominated: Douglas Berry
Seconded: John Hattan

------------

10) In response to:

I absolutely LOATHE Scientologists and their pseudo-religion,

Not really seeing any difference between a real religion and a
"pseudo-religion"

By: Lord Calvert
Nominated: towelie
Seconded: LP

* * * * *
1) Hey Moore, looks like your magic rock done got itself raptured right
outta the rotunda this morning! Your threescore of toothless
prayer-hicks said that GAWD would keep your magical rock from moving one
inch, but all it took was a couple of movers and some man-made simple
machines (specifically some wheels and wedges) and that big ole' godrock
rolled quite easily away. I'm glad my teevee had picture-in-picture so
that I could watch two live cable networks at once and catch two
different camera-angles of your big ego-feuled graven image eyesore
hauling ***** right outta there!

[John faces due-east and sways]

Na na. NA NA NA NA. HEY HEY HEY. GOODBYE!!!!!!

Na na. NA NA NA NA. HEY HEY HEY. GOODBYE!!!!!!

By: John Hattan
Nominated: nemo
Seconded: Liz

------------

13) Christians think they are being humble when they kneel, or more
precisely, they think they are humbling themselves. What that betrays
is that they have such an overinflated sense of their own size and
importance that they feel they have to be gracious, and volunteer to
shorten their height so as not to encroach too much on the stature of
their universe-dwarfing God. If they had any true sense of their
smallness on the cosmic scale, they would know how laughable,
ridiculous, and comically arrogant that is.

By: Kronk
Nominated: Mike Smith
Seconded: Denis Loubet

------------

13) Christians think they are being humble when they kneel, or more
precisely, they think they are humbling themselves. What that betrays
is that they have such an overinflated sense of their own size and
importance that they feel they have to be gracious, and volunteer to
shorten their height so as not to encroach too much on the stature of
their universe-dwarfing God. If they had any true sense of their
smallness on the cosmic scale, they would know how laughable,
ridiculous, and comically arrogant that is.

By: Kronk
Nominated: Mike Smith
Seconded: Denis Loubet

17) Sorry fishboy, but you've already proven your evil agenda with your
rhetoric about magical talking end-of-the-world fish. You don't want an
enlightened populace but a fearful one that fears a demon haunted world
that could end any minute. Only problem is that the demons and monsters
have been scared away by science and are now only living under the beds
of the fearful. And those fearful want to elevate their position not by
losing their own fear but by trying to make everyone else as fearful as
they are.

And that, my fishy friend, is evil.

By: John Hattan
Nominated: Elroy Willis
Seconded: Mark K. Bilbo

3) Funny isn't it? We still don't know if "god" could make a rock so
heavy he couldn't move it. But we *do know humans can make a rock he
can't stop from being moved...

By: Mark K. Bilbo
Nominated: Dr. Smartass
Seconded: Doug Semler

4) Another Christian chimes in, cute.

Our purpose is to enjoy life, and to ensure an enjoyable life for future
generations.

Your purpose is to fullfill the purpose of another being, which just
might not exist.

Good luck!

By: Lawrence Seib
Nominated: david asman
Seconded: Doubting Thomas

13) Christians think they are being humble when they kneel, or more
precisely, they think they are humbling themselves. What that betrays is
that they have such an overinflated sense of their own size and
importance that they feel they have to be gracious, and volunteer to
shorten their height so as not to encroach too much on the stature of
their universe-dwarfing God. If they had any true sense of their
smallness on the cosmic scale, they would know how laughable,
ridiculous, and comically arrogant that is.

By: Kronk
Nominated: Mike Smith
Seconded: Denis Loubet
16) In response to:

Of course. The Bible is inerrant, and that's what it says. But you have to
redefine what you mean by "chew the cud" and "birds" i order to make it
fit with reality. ;-)

Oh *I get it. *Reality is errant!

By: Mark K. Bilbo
Nominated: Douglas Berry
Seconded: John Hattan

1) Hey Moore, looks like your magic rock done got itself raptured
right outta the rotunda this morning! Your threescore of toothless
prayer-hicks said that GAWD would keep your magical rock from moving
one inch, but all it took was a couple of movers and some man-made
simple machines (specifically some wheels and wedges) and that big
ole' godrock rolled quite easily away. I'm glad my teevee had
picture-in-picture so that I could watch two live cable networks at
once and catch two different camera-angles of your big ego-feuled
graven image eyesore hauling ***** right outta there!

[John faces due-east and sways]

Na na. NA NA NA NA. HEY HEY HEY. GOODBYE!!!!!!

Na na. NA NA NA NA. HEY HEY HEY. GOODBYE!!!!!!

By: John Hattan
Nominated: nemo
Seconded: Liz

10) In response to:

I absolutely LOATHE Scientologists and their pseudo-religion,

Not really seeing any difference between a real religion and a
"pseudo-religion"

By: Lord Calvert
Nominated: towelie
Seconded: LP

8) Orientals must be a pain in the ***** for Christians. The Chinese have
recorded history that pre-dates some of the alleged stuff in the bible.
How come there is no Chinese book that says "we were under water for 40
days, how the hell did that happen?"

By: Mischa van Dinter
Nominated: MarkA
Seconded: Douglas Berry

13) Christians think they are being humble when they kneel, or more
precisely, they think they are humbling themselves. What that betrays is
that they have such an overinflated sense of their own size and
importance that they feel they have to be gracious, and volunteer to
shorten their height so as not to encroach too much on the stature of
their universe-dwarfing God. If they had any true sense of their
smallness on the cosmic scale, they would know how laughable,
ridiculous, and comically arrogant that is.

By: Kronk
Nominated: Mike Smith
Seconded: Denis Loubet

13) Christians think they are being humble when they kneel, or more
precisely, they think they are humbling themselves. What that betrays is
that they have such an overinflated sense of their own size and
importance that they feel they have to be gracious, and volunteer to
shorten their height so as not to encroach too much on the stature of
their universe-dwarfing God. If they had any true sense of their
smallness on the cosmic scale, they would know how laughable,
ridiculous, and comically arrogant that is.

By: Kronk
Nominated: Mike Smith
Seconded: Denis Loubet

------------

17) Sorry fishboy, but you've already proven your evil agenda with your
rhetoric about magical talking end-of-the-world fish. You don't want an
enlightened populace but a fearful one that fears a demon haunted world
that could end any minute. Only problem is that the demons and monsters
have been scared away by science and are now only living under the beds
of the fearful. And those fearful want to elevate their position not by
losing their own fear but by trying to make everyone else as fearful as
they are.

And that, my fishy friend, is evil.

By: John Hattan
Nominated: Elroy Willis
Seconded: Mark K. Bilbo

------------

3) Funny isn't it? We still don't know if "god" could make a rock so
heavy he couldn't move it. But we *do know humans can make a rock he
can't stop from being moved...

By: Mark K. Bilbo
Nominated: Dr. Smartass
Seconded: Doug Semler

3) Funny isn't it? We still don't know if "god" could make a rock so
heavy he couldn't move it. But we *do know humans can make a rock he
can't stop from being moved...

By: Mark K. Bilbo
Nominated: Dr. Smartass
Seconded: Doug Semler

13) Christians think they are being humble when they kneel, or more
precisely, they think they are humbling themselves. What that betrays
is that they have such an overinflated sense of their own size and
importance that they feel they have to be gracious, and volunteer to
shorten their height so as not to encroach too much on the stature of
their universe-dwarfing God. If they had any true sense of their
smallness on the cosmic scale, they would know how laughable,
ridiculous, and comically arrogant that is.

By: Kronk
Nominated: Mike Smith
Seconded: Denis Loubet

15) "we who built America"?
You wouldn't be talking about those same people who had so little faith
in their God's ability to protect them that they *fled* European
persecution by others who believed just as passionately in that same
myth to move to the USA, then robbed the locals of their land,
livelihoods, belief system and self respect, and now want to oppress
everyone who doesn't buy into their self-sustaining lies, would you?

By: Budikka
Nominated: towelie
Seconded: Mekkala

3) Funny isn't it? We still don't know if "god" could make a rock so
heavy he couldn't move it. But we *do know humans can make a rock he
can't stop from being moved...

By: Mark K. Bilbo
Nominated: Dr. Smartass
Seconded: Doug Semler

17) Sorry fishboy, but you've already proven your evil agenda with your
rhetoric about magical talking end-of-the-world fish. You don't want an
enlightened populace but a fearful one that fears a demon haunted world
that could end any minute. Only problem is that the demons and monsters
have been scared away by science and are now only living under the beds
of the fearful. And those fearful want to elevate their position not by
losing their own fear but by trying to make everyone else as fearful as
they are.

And that, my fishy friend, is evil.

By: John Hattan
Nominated: Elroy Willis
Seconded: Mark K. Bilbo

3) Funny isn't it? We still don't know if "god" could make a rock so
heavy he couldn't move it. But we *do know humans can make a rock he
can't stop from being moved...

By: Mark K. Bilbo
Nominated: Dr. Smartass
Seconded: Doug Semler

------------

13) Christians think they are being humble when they kneel, or more
precisely, they think they are humbling themselves. What that betrays is
that they have such an overinflated sense of their own size and
importance that they feel they have to be gracious, and volunteer to
shorten their height so as not to encroach too much on the stature of
their universe-dwarfing God. If they had any true sense of their
smallness on the cosmic scale, they would know how laughable,
ridiculous, and comically arrogant that is.

By: Kronk
Nominated: Mike Smith
Seconded: Denis Loubet

------------

18) People should be taught critical thinking, research, and skepticism;
that faith without evidence is foolish; that rigid belief stifles
progress and fosters fanaticism; that fairy tales are fairy tales.

By: Witziges Rätsel
Nominated: Bob White
Seconded: Carl Kaufmann

16) In response to:

Of course. The Bible is inerrant, and that's what it says. But you have to
redefine what you mean by "chew the cud" and "birds" i order to make it
fit with reality. ;-)

Oh *I get it. *Reality is errant!

By: Mark K. Bilbo
Nominated: Douglas Berry
Seconded: John Hattan

6) I honestly don't think you can blame religion per se. If it were not
for religious differences, "we" versus "they" violence would be manifest
through some other difference: ethnicity or language or economic
philosophy or geographic identity or skin color or gender or which end
of an egg gets opened first when eating one that's been soft boiled.
Let's face it: humans hate one another, and anything that will justify
that hate can and will be used.

By: Gregory Gadow
Nominated: Dr. Smartass
Seconded:

16) In response to:

Of course. The Bible is inerrant, and that's what it says. But you have to
redefine what you mean by "chew the cud" and "birds" i order to make it
fit with reality. ;-)

Oh *I get it. *Reality is errant!

By: Mark K. Bilbo
Nominated: Douglas Berry
Seconded: John Hattan

------------

17) Sorry fishboy, but you've already proven your evil agenda with your
rhetoric about magical talking end-of-the-world fish. You don't want an
enlightened populace but a fearful one that fears a demon haunted world
that could end any minute. Only problem is that the demons and monsters
have been scared away by science and are now only living under the beds
of the fearful. And those fearful want to elevate their position not by
losing their own fear but by trying to make everyone else as fearful as
they are.

And that, my fishy friend, is evil.

By: John Hattan
Nominated: Elroy Willis
Seconded: Mark K. Bilbo

------------

11) The theist version of faith in atheists can be compared to their
concept of morality among atheists. Many of them think that because we
don't have faith in God, then there is nothing else to have faith
in...that we can't have faith in anything if we don't have faith in
their particular sky spook.

I have faith in lots of things. I have faith in the basic decency of
humanity...which is unfortunatley all too often corrupted. I have faith
in the love and support of my family and friends. I even have faith in
things without evidence....for example I have faith that there is life
elsewhere in the universe. I just don't have faith in the absurd,
illogical, impossible or irrational. I don't have faith that the moon
is made of swiss cheese that magically changes to rock when the
astronaughts landed. I don't have faith that all existence outside of
myself is just in my mind. And I don't have faith that everything was
zapped into existence by some magical being, who insists that everyone
worships him, yet totally hides his existence except for a incredulous
set of books written thousands of years ago. I don't have faith that
the entire universe...millions of billions of galaxies spread across a
distance almost beyong imagining...countless worlds and stars and
wonders and phenomena....99.999999999999999999999% humanity will never
see or experience or even be aware of...was all created for the one of
the inhabitant species of one small world in one galaxy, that didn't
appear until 13 billion years after it's creation.

I have faith...I just don't have blind faith...or stupid faith!

By: Clayton Aguilera the Dirty Pierced Nipple *****
Nominated: JPG
Seconded: Dr. Smartass

17) Sorry fishboy, but you've already proven your evil agenda with your
rhetoric about magical talking end-of-the-world fish. You don't want an
enlightened populace but a fearful one that fears a demon haunted world
that could end any minute. Only problem is that the demons and monsters
have been scared away by science and are now only living under the beds
of the fearful. And those fearful want to elevate their position not by
losing their own fear but by trying to make everyone else as fearful as
they are.

And that, my fishy friend, is evil.

By: John Hattan
Nominated: Elroy Willis
Seconded: Mark K. Bilbo

15) "we who built America"?
You wouldn't be talking about those same people who had so little faith
in their God's ability to protect them that they *fled* European
persecution by others who believed just as passionately in that same
myth to move to the USA, then robbed the locals of their land,
livelihoods, belief system and self respect, and now want to oppress
everyone who doesn't buy into their self-sustaining lies, would you?

By: Budikka
Nominated: towelie
Seconded: Mekkala

------------

16) In response to:

Of course. The Bible is inerrant, and that's what it says. But you have to
redefine what you mean by "chew the cud" and "birds" i order to make it
fit with reality. ;-)

Oh *I get it. *Reality is errant!

By: Mark K. Bilbo
Nominated: Douglas Berry
Seconded: John Hattan

6) I honestly don't think you can blame religion per se. If it were
not for religious differences, "we" versus "they" violence would be
manifest through some other difference: ethnicity or language or
economic philosophy or geographic identity or skin color or gender or
which end of an egg gets opened first when eating one that's been soft
boiled. Let's face it: humans hate one another, and anything that will
justify that hate can and will be used.

By: Gregory Gadow
Nominated: Dr. Smartass
Seconded: