Religions > Atheism > AA: Attn Florida residents. Request for assistance from Florida Citizen for Science
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"Michael Gray" |
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07 Dec 2007 03:39:53 PM |
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AA: Attn Florida residents. Request for assistance from Florida Citizen for Science |
EVOLUTION AGAIN
From Brandon Haught, Florida Citizens for Science, comes this notice:
"This is a request for assistance from Florida Citizens for Science.
The evolution debate that constantly makes its rounds across the U.S.
has landed with a thud in Florida. The state’s science standards,
which guide all public schools’ curricula in the state, are being
revised. The standards are a serious matter, since whatever is in them
must be taught to students in preparation for statewide testing. That
testing affects promotion and graduation of students, and determines
the fate of funding and reputation of each individual school. The
current science standards don’t mention evolution by name or give the
theory any significant importance. The draft of the new science
standards is a huge step forward, as it rightfully acknowledges
evolution as an important concept for all students to be familiar
with.
As can be predicted by anyone with a passing knowledge of evolution’s
“hot potato” status in Pennsylvania, Kansas, Ohio and Texas, the fact
that the word appears prominently in the draft standards has caused a
stir. Organizations like Focus on the Family
(citizenlink.org/content/A000005985.cfm) and the Florida Baptists
(floridabaptistwitness.com/8144) have sounded the call to battle.
Members of county school boards have come forward to publicly announce
their opposition to evolution and their desire to at least balance
evolution with the creationism Trojan horse, intelligent design.
The latest news to strike a blow to sound science, is a Florida Board
of Education member announcing her intentions to vote against the new
standards because of evolution. That’s an alarm bell, because it’s the
state Board of Education that makes the final approval of the new
standards. Enough board members voting against evolution can sink the
whole thing.
We at Florida Citizens for Science are aware that the anti-science
crowd is out in full force trying to exert influence where it counts
the most: the state Board of Education. We need to counter that
attack, with your support. Please rally your audience, especially any
of your fans who live in Florida, to contact every member of the state
BoE and let him or her know that evolution belongs in the state
science standards. Please visit the Florida Citizens for Science
website (flascience.org), especially the blog (flascience.org/wp), to
learn more.
I urge our Florida members and readers to follow Brandon’s earnest
suggestion. If we don’t make the cause of rationality known, we may
very well allow this attack to succeed… "
http://www.randi.org/joom/content/view/138/1/#i5
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08 Dec 2007 02:08:36 AM |
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In article <j9fjl35uttcken8gj5vbqfn9o125jcjh7b@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
EVOLUTION AGAIN
From Brandon Haught, Florida Citizens for Science, comes this notice:
"This is a request for assistance from Florida Citizens for Science.
The evolution debate that constantly makes its rounds across the U.S.
has landed with a thud in Florida. The state’s science standards,
which guide all public schools’ curricula in the state, are being
revised. The standards are a serious matter, since whatever is in them
must be taught to students in preparation for statewide testing. That
testing affects promotion and graduation of students, and determines
the fate of funding and reputation of each individual school. The
current science standards don’t mention evolution by name or give the
theory any significant importance. The draft of the new science
standards is a huge step forward, as it rightfully acknowledges
evolution as an important concept for all students to be familiar
with.
What is it about Florida? The 2000 election fiasco, the Terry Schiavo
lunacy, Mark Foley, and now this. I found this article, also on the
subject. Some of the public comments at the bottom are insightful,
others amusing, others, well... :
http://tinyurl.com/37vxtf
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John #1782
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: AA: Attn Florida residents. Request for assistance from Florida Citizen for Science |
08 Dec 2007 03:43:51 AM |
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On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:08:36 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <j9fjl35uttcken8gj5vbqfn9o125jcjh7b@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
EVOLUTION AGAIN
From Brandon Haught, Florida Citizens for Science, comes this notice:
"This is a request for assistance from Florida Citizens for Science.
The evolution debate that constantly makes its rounds across the U.S.
has landed with a thud in Florida. The state’s science standards,
which guide all public schools’ curricula in the state, are being
revised. The standards are a serious matter, since whatever is in them
must be taught to students in preparation for statewide testing. That
testing affects promotion and graduation of students, and determines
the fate of funding and reputation of each individual school. The
current science standards don’t mention evolution by name or give the
theory any significant importance. The draft of the new science
standards is a huge step forward, as it rightfully acknowledges
evolution as an important concept for all students to be familiar
with.
What is it about Florida? The 2000 election fiasco, the Terry Schiavo
lunacy, Mark Foley, and now this. I found this article, also on the
subject. Some of the public comments at the bottom are insightful,
others amusing, others, well... :
http://tinyurl.com/37vxtf
Florida: No Snow, no ice, no friggin' sense...
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: AA: Attn Florida residents. Request for assistance from Florida Citizen for Science |
09 Dec 2007 01:35:47 AM |
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In article <dppkl3h5a6r16ke73vfh2qov5hkva24pqc@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:08:36 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <j9fjl35uttcken8gj5vbqfn9o125jcjh7b@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
EVOLUTION AGAIN
From Brandon Haught, Florida Citizens for Science, comes this notice:
"This is a request for assistance from Florida Citizens for Science.
The evolution debate that constantly makes its rounds across the U.S.
has landed with a thud in Florida. The state’s science standards,
which guide all public schools’ curricula in the state, are being
revised. The standards are a serious matter, since whatever is in them
must be taught to students in preparation for statewide testing. That
testing affects promotion and graduation of students, and determines
the fate of funding and reputation of each individual school. The
current science standards don’t mention evolution by name or give the
theory any significant importance. The draft of the new science
standards is a huge step forward, as it rightfully acknowledges
evolution as an important concept for all students to be familiar
with.
What is it about Florida? The 2000 election fiasco, the Terry Schiavo
lunacy, Mark Foley, and now this. I found this article, also on the
subject. Some of the public comments at the bottom are insightful,
others amusing, others, well... :
http://tinyurl.com/37vxtf
Florida: No Snow, no ice, no friggin' sense...
And they elected Jeb Bush governor. What more can I say?
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John #1782
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: AA: Attn Florida residents. Request for assistance from Florida Citizen for Science |
09 Dec 2007 03:01:00 AM |
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On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:35:47 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <dppkl3h5a6r16ke73vfh2qov5hkva24pqc@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:08:36 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <j9fjl35uttcken8gj5vbqfn9o125jcjh7b@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
EVOLUTION AGAIN
From Brandon Haught, Florida Citizens for Science, comes this notice:
"This is a request for assistance from Florida Citizens for Science.
The evolution debate that constantly makes its rounds across the U.S.
has landed with a thud in Florida. The state’s science standards,
which guide all public schools’ curricula in the state, are being
revised. The standards are a serious matter, since whatever is in them
must be taught to students in preparation for statewide testing. That
testing affects promotion and graduation of students, and determines
the fate of funding and reputation of each individual school. The
current science standards don’t mention evolution by name or give the
theory any significant importance. The draft of the new science
standards is a huge step forward, as it rightfully acknowledges
evolution as an important concept for all students to be familiar
with.
What is it about Florida? The 2000 election fiasco, the Terry Schiavo
lunacy, Mark Foley, and now this. I found this article, also on the
subject. Some of the public comments at the bottom are insightful,
others amusing, others, well... :
http://tinyurl.com/37vxtf
Florida: No Snow, no ice, no friggin' sense...
And they elected Jeb Bush governor. What more can I say?
"Sorry"?
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: AA: Attn Florida residents. Request for assistance from Florida Citizen for Science |
10 Dec 2007 12:03:51 AM |
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In article <3mbnl3pk4khpeq4tm09b24ffonbh9ushoe@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:35:47 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <dppkl3h5a6r16ke73vfh2qov5hkva24pqc@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:08:36 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <j9fjl35uttcken8gj5vbqfn9o125jcjh7b@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
EVOLUTION AGAIN
From Brandon Haught, Florida Citizens for Science, comes this notice:
"This is a request for assistance from Florida Citizens for Science.
The evolution debate that constantly makes its rounds across the U.S.
has landed with a thud in Florida. The state’s science standards,
which guide all public schools’ curricula in the state, are being
revised. The standards are a serious matter, since whatever is in them
must be taught to students in preparation for statewide testing. That
testing affects promotion and graduation of students, and determines
the fate of funding and reputation of each individual school. The
current science standards don’t mention evolution by name or give the
theory any significant importance. The draft of the new science
standards is a huge step forward, as it rightfully acknowledges
evolution as an important concept for all students to be familiar
with.
What is it about Florida? The 2000 election fiasco, the Terry Schiavo
lunacy, Mark Foley, and now this. I found this article, also on the
subject. Some of the public comments at the bottom are insightful,
others amusing, others, well... :
http://tinyurl.com/37vxtf
Florida: No Snow, no ice, no friggin' sense...
And they elected Jeb Bush governor. What more can I say?
"Sorry"?
Well, I shouldn't say too much. In California we elected the Terminator.
And before I moved out here they elected Ronnie Raygun. Loony country
that I live in.
--
John #1782
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: AA: Attn Florida residents. Request for assistance from Florida Citizen for Science |
09 Dec 2007 12:56:36 PM |
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Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:3mbnl3pk4khpeq4tm09b24ffonbh9ushoe@4ax.com:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:35:47 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <dppkl3h5a6r16ke73vfh2qov5hkva24pqc@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:08:36 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <j9fjl35uttcken8gj5vbqfn9o125jcjh7b@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
EVOLUTION AGAIN
From Brandon Haught, Florida Citizens for Science, comes this
notice:
"This is a request for assistance from Florida Citizens for
Science. The evolution debate that constantly makes its rounds
across the U.S. has landed with a thud in Florida. The state’s
science standards, which guide all public schools’ curricula in
the state, are being revised. The standards are a serious matter,
since whatever is in them must be taught to students in
preparation for statewide testing. That testing affects promotion
and graduation of students, and determines the fate of funding
and reputation of each individual school. The current science
standards don’t mention evolution by name or give the theory
any significant importance. The draft of the new science
standards is a huge step forward, as it rightfully acknowledges
evolution as an important concept for all students to be familiar
with.
What is it about Florida? The 2000 election fiasco, the Terry
Schiavo lunacy, Mark Foley, and now this. I found this article,
also on the subject. Some of the public comments at the bottom are
insightful, others amusing, others, well... :
http://tinyurl.com/37vxtf
Florida: No Snow, no ice, no friggin' sense...
And they elected Jeb Bush governor. What more can I say?
"Sorry"?
They elected him TWICE, despite my voting against him (you know how much
power we atheists supposedly have). "Sorry" isn't enough.
--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939
No one can terrorize a whole nation, unless we are all his accomplices.
--Edward R. Murrow
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: AA: Attn Florida residents. Request for assistance from Florida Citizen for Science |
09 Dec 2007 12:55:19 PM |
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johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-5D9F3A.23354708122007@news.giganews.com:
In article <dppkl3h5a6r16ke73vfh2qov5hkva24pqc@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:08:36 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <j9fjl35uttcken8gj5vbqfn9o125jcjh7b@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
EVOLUTION AGAIN
From Brandon Haught, Florida Citizens for Science, comes this
notice:
"This is a request for assistance from Florida Citizens for
Science. The evolution debate that constantly makes its rounds
across the U.S. has landed with a thud in Florida. The state’s
science standards, which guide all public schools’ curricula in
the state, are being revised. The standards are a serious matter,
since whatever is in them must be taught to students in
preparation for statewide testing. That testing affects promotion
and graduation of students, and determines the fate of funding and
reputation of each individual school. The current science
standards don’t mention evolution by name or give the theory any
significant importance. The draft of the new science standards is
a huge step forward, as it rightfully acknowledges evolution as an
important concept for all students to be familiar with.
What is it about Florida? The 2000 election fiasco, the Terry
Schiavo lunacy, Mark Foley, and now this. I found this article,
also on the subject. Some of the public comments at the bottom are
insightful, others amusing, others, well... :
http://tinyurl.com/37vxtf
Florida: No Snow, no ice, no friggin' sense...
And they elected Jeb Bush governor. What more can I say?
We have pretty beaches and..and...um...pretty...beaches. Yeah.
--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939
No one can terrorize a whole nation, unless we are all his accomplices.
--Edward R. Murrow
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: AA: Attn Florida residents. Request for assistance from Florida Citizen for Science |
10 Dec 2007 12:00:06 AM |
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In article <Xns9A018375B324Aaskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-5D9F3A.23354708122007@news.giganews.com:
In article <dppkl3h5a6r16ke73vfh2qov5hkva24pqc@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:08:36 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <j9fjl35uttcken8gj5vbqfn9o125jcjh7b@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
EVOLUTION AGAIN
From Brandon Haught, Florida Citizens for Science, comes this
notice:
"This is a request for assistance from Florida Citizens for
Science. The evolution debate that constantly makes its rounds
across the U.S. has landed with a thud in Florida. The state’s
science standards, which guide all public schools’ curricula in
the state, are being revised. The standards are a serious matter,
since whatever is in them must be taught to students in
preparation for statewide testing. That testing affects promotion
and graduation of students, and determines the fate of funding and
reputation of each individual school. The current science
standards don’t mention evolution by name or give the theory any
significant importance. The draft of the new science standards is
a huge step forward, as it rightfully acknowledges evolution as an
important concept for all students to be familiar with.
What is it about Florida? The 2000 election fiasco, the Terry
Schiavo lunacy, Mark Foley, and now this. I found this article,
also on the subject. Some of the public comments at the bottom are
insightful, others amusing, others, well... :
http://tinyurl.com/37vxtf
Florida: No Snow, no ice, no friggin' sense...
And they elected Jeb Bush governor. What more can I say?
We have pretty beaches and..and...um...pretty...beaches. Yeah.
'Till the next hurricane washes them away.
--
John #1782
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| Title: Re: AA: Attn Florida residents. Request for assistance from Florida Citizen for Science |
11 Dec 2007 06:28:48 PM |
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johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:jhachmann-
80669C.22000609122007@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns9A018375B324Aaskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-5D9F3A.23354708122007@news.giganews.com:
In article <dppkl3h5a6r16ke73vfh2qov5hkva24pqc@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:08:36 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <j9fjl35uttcken8gj5vbqfn9o125jcjh7b@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
EVOLUTION AGAIN
From Brandon Haught, Florida Citizens for Science, comes this
notice:
"This is a request for assistance from Florida Citizens for
Science. The evolution debate that constantly makes its rounds
across the U.S. has landed with a thud in Florida. The state’s
science standards, which guide all public schools’ curricula
in
the state, are being revised. The standards are a serious
matter,
since whatever is in them must be taught to students in
preparation for statewide testing. That testing affects
promotion
and graduation of students, and determines the fate of funding
and
reputation of each individual school. The current science
standards don’t mention evolution by name or give the theory
any
significant importance. The draft of the new science standards
is
a huge step forward, as it rightfully acknowledges evolution as
an
important concept for all students to be familiar with.
What is it about Florida? The 2000 election fiasco, the Terry
Schiavo lunacy, Mark Foley, and now this. I found this article,
also on the subject. Some of the public comments at the bottom are
insightful, others amusing, others, well... :
http://tinyurl.com/37vxtf
Florida: No Snow, no ice, no friggin' sense...
And they elected Jeb Bush governor. What more can I say?
We have pretty beaches and..and...um...pretty...beaches. Yeah.
'Till the next hurricane washes them away.
Rich folks live on the beach. Blow them all away, more beach for us =D
The really shitty part is that those whiny-asses expect the rest of us to
front money for "renourishment" projects, where clean sand is dredged out
of the Gulf and poured back on-shore so their condo's and hotels don't
fall into the water.
--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939
No one can terrorize a whole nation, unless we are all his accomplices.
--Edward R. Murrow
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| User: "JQPublic" |
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| Title: Re: AA: Attn Florida residents. Request for assistance from FloridaCitizen for Science |
09 Dec 2007 03:03:03 PM |
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Michael Gray wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:08:36 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <j9fjl35uttcken8gj5vbqfn9o125jcjh7b@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
EVOLUTION AGAIN
From Brandon Haught, Florida Citizens for Science, comes this notice:
"This is a request for assistance from Florida Citizens for Science.
The evolution debate that constantly makes its rounds across the U.S.
has landed with a thud in Florida. The state’s science standards,
which guide all public schools’ curricula in the state, are being
revised. The standards are a serious matter, since whatever is in them
must be taught to students in preparation for statewide testing. That
testing affects promotion and graduation of students, and determines
the fate of funding and reputation of each individual school. The
current science standards don’t mention evolution by name or give the
theory any significant importance. The draft of the new science
standards is a huge step forward, as it rightfully acknowledges
evolution as an important concept for all students to be familiar
with.
What is it about Florida? The 2000 election fiasco, the Terry Schiavo
lunacy, Mark Foley, and now this. I found this article, also on the
subject. Some of the public comments at the bottom are insightful,
others amusing, others, well... :
http://tinyurl.com/37vxtf
Florida: No Snow, no ice, no friggin' sense...
And bugs. Lots and lots of big friggin bugs.
And old folks. Lots and lots of old folks who shouldn't be driving but
are anyway -- lots of 'em.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: AA: Attn Florida residents. Request for assistance from Florida Citizen for Science |
09 Dec 2007 11:59:10 PM |
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In article <475c5807$0$2382$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
JQPublic <Junk@Junk.junk> wrote:
Michael Gray wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:08:36 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <j9fjl35uttcken8gj5vbqfn9o125jcjh7b@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
EVOLUTION AGAIN
From Brandon Haught, Florida Citizens for Science, comes this notice:
"This is a request for assistance from Florida Citizens for Science.
The evolution debate that constantly makes its rounds across the U.S.
has landed with a thud in Florida. The state’s science standards,
which guide all public schools’ curricula in the state, are being
revised. The standards are a serious matter, since whatever is in them
must be taught to students in preparation for statewide testing. That
testing affects promotion and graduation of students, and determines
the fate of funding and reputation of each individual school. The
current science standards don’t mention evolution by name or give the
theory any significant importance. The draft of the new science
standards is a huge step forward, as it rightfully acknowledges
evolution as an important concept for all students to be familiar
with.
What is it about Florida? The 2000 election fiasco, the Terry Schiavo
lunacy, Mark Foley, and now this. I found this article, also on the
subject. Some of the public comments at the bottom are insightful,
others amusing, others, well... :
http://tinyurl.com/37vxtf
Florida: No Snow, no ice, no friggin' sense...
And bugs. Lots and lots of big friggin bugs.
And old folks. Lots and lots of old folks who shouldn't be driving but
are anyway -- lots of 'em.
And hurricanes, tornados, and air so humid in the summer that you can
grab a handful and wring the water out of it. Why people want to retire
there is beyond me.
--
John #1782
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| User: "chibiabos" |
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| Title: Re: AA: Attn Florida residents. Request for assistance from Florida Citizen for Science |
10 Dec 2007 08:07:35 PM |
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In article <j9fjl35uttcken8gj5vbqfn9o125jcjh7b@4ax.com>, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
EVOLUTION AGAIN
What usually (big caveat there) happens in cases like this is that
representatives from the big colleges and universities step in with
polite "encouragements."
"We may or may not be able to offer remedial courses in science for
those who were denied that opportunity in grades K-12."
Problem solved.
-chib
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Member of S.M.A.S.H.
Sarcastic Middle-aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
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