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"Michael Gray" |
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15 Dec 2007 09:56:59 PM |
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AA: For all you yanks: Keep your balls moist! |
Why a soggy baseball flies further
15 December 2007
"A DRY baseball should fly further than a soggy one, shouldn't it?
Well, maybe not, because it turns out that a little moisture has an
odd effect on flying balls.
The Colorado Rockies baseball team plays in high-altitude Denver,
where the thin air means baseballs travel up to 6 metres further than
at sea level. So since 2002, in the name of fair play, the team has
placed game balls in a high-humidity chamber for several months prior
to a game, reasoning that moist, heavier balls will be more sluggish
than dry ones.
Now physicists Edward Meyer and John Bohn at the University of
Colorado at Boulder say the Rockies may have it backwards: moisture
may make the ball fly even further. In experiments, they found that
two months in humidity of 30 to 50 per cent increased the diameter of
baseballs by an average of 0.24 per cent, and their mass by 1.6 per
cent (www.arxiv.org/0712.0380).
True, the increased squishiness of these bigger, heavier balls means
they come off the bat slightly more slowly than a dry ball, and they
experience more drag than a normal ball. But their extra mass more
than counters these effects by making these balls take longer to
decelerate. Moreover, moist balls thrown by pitchers curve less than
dry baseballs, making them an easier target for batters. Such
aerodynamic effects could also affect other ball games, such as
cricket."
<http://www.newscientist.com/channel/fundamentals/mg19626344.800-why-a-soggy-baseball-flies-further.html>
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: AA: For all you yanks: Keep your balls moist! |
16 Dec 2007 02:12:56 AM |
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In article <7a89m31suabt0ehld76jd2bhfu3sm18lhf@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
Why a soggy baseball flies further
15 December 2007
"A DRY baseball should fly further than a soggy one, shouldn't it?
Well, maybe not, because it turns out that a little moisture has an
odd effect on flying balls.
The Colorado Rockies baseball team plays in high-altitude Denver,
where the thin air means baseballs travel up to 6 metres further than
at sea level. So since 2002, in the name of fair play, the team has
placed game balls in a high-humidity chamber for several months prior
to a game, reasoning that moist, heavier balls will be more sluggish
than dry ones.
Now physicists Edward Meyer and John Bohn at the University of
Colorado at Boulder say the Rockies may have it backwards: moisture
may make the ball fly even further. In experiments, they found that
two months in humidity of 30 to 50 per cent increased the diameter of
baseballs by an average of 0.24 per cent, and their mass by 1.6 per
cent (www.arxiv.org/0712.0380).
True, the increased squishiness of these bigger, heavier balls means
they come off the bat slightly more slowly than a dry ball, and they
experience more drag than a normal ball. But their extra mass more
than counters these effects by making these balls take longer to
decelerate. Moreover, moist balls thrown by pitchers curve less than
dry baseballs, making them an easier target for batters. Such
aerodynamic effects could also affect other ball games, such as
cricket."
<http://www.newscientist.com/channel/fundamentals/mg19626344.800-why-a-soggy-b
aseball-flies-further.html>
Since they're not supposed to use them on the players anymore, maybe the
teams could try injecting steroids into baseballs. Or cricket balls,
though I suspect that wouldn't be cricket.
--
John #1782
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: AA: For all you yanks: Keep your balls moist! |
17 Dec 2007 12:53:52 AM |
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On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 00:12:56 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <7a89m31suabt0ehld76jd2bhfu3sm18lhf@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
Why a soggy baseball flies further
15 December 2007
"A DRY baseball should fly further than a soggy one, shouldn't it?
Well, maybe not, because it turns out that a little moisture has an
odd effect on flying balls.
The Colorado Rockies baseball team plays in high-altitude Denver,
where the thin air means baseballs travel up to 6 metres further than
at sea level. So since 2002, in the name of fair play, the team has
placed game balls in a high-humidity chamber for several months prior
to a game, reasoning that moist, heavier balls will be more sluggish
than dry ones.
Now physicists Edward Meyer and John Bohn at the University of
Colorado at Boulder say the Rockies may have it backwards: moisture
may make the ball fly even further. In experiments, they found that
two months in humidity of 30 to 50 per cent increased the diameter of
baseballs by an average of 0.24 per cent, and their mass by 1.6 per
cent (www.arxiv.org/0712.0380).
True, the increased squishiness of these bigger, heavier balls means
they come off the bat slightly more slowly than a dry ball, and they
experience more drag than a normal ball. But their extra mass more
than counters these effects by making these balls take longer to
decelerate. Moreover, moist balls thrown by pitchers curve less than
dry baseballs, making them an easier target for batters. Such
aerodynamic effects could also affect other ball games, such as
cricket."
<http://www.newscientist.com/channel/fundamentals/mg19626344.800-why-a-soggy-b
aseball-flies-further.html>
Since they're not supposed to use them on the players anymore, maybe the
teams could try injecting steroids into baseballs. Or cricket balls,
though I suspect that wouldn't be cricket.
Have you ever handled a cricket ball?
They are like concrete cannon-balls!
Mmm.. perhaps that would liven up the game somewhat...
Might break a few bats, though.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: AA: For all you yanks: Keep your balls moist! |
18 Dec 2007 01:52:38 AM |
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In article <h57cm3pkj9fknashjs8d7ol7i5n9jjjpdr@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 00:12:56 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <7a89m31suabt0ehld76jd2bhfu3sm18lhf@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
Why a soggy baseball flies further
15 December 2007
"A DRY baseball should fly further than a soggy one, shouldn't it?
Well, maybe not, because it turns out that a little moisture has an
odd effect on flying balls.
The Colorado Rockies baseball team plays in high-altitude Denver,
where the thin air means baseballs travel up to 6 metres further than
at sea level. So since 2002, in the name of fair play, the team has
placed game balls in a high-humidity chamber for several months prior
to a game, reasoning that moist, heavier balls will be more sluggish
than dry ones.
Now physicists Edward Meyer and John Bohn at the University of
Colorado at Boulder say the Rockies may have it backwards: moisture
may make the ball fly even further. In experiments, they found that
two months in humidity of 30 to 50 per cent increased the diameter of
baseballs by an average of 0.24 per cent, and their mass by 1.6 per
cent (www.arxiv.org/0712.0380).
True, the increased squishiness of these bigger, heavier balls means
they come off the bat slightly more slowly than a dry ball, and they
experience more drag than a normal ball. But their extra mass more
than counters these effects by making these balls take longer to
decelerate. Moreover, moist balls thrown by pitchers curve less than
dry baseballs, making them an easier target for batters. Such
aerodynamic effects could also affect other ball games, such as
cricket."
<http://www.newscientist.com/channel/fundamentals/mg19626344.800-why-a-sogg
y-b
aseball-flies-further.html>
Since they're not supposed to use them on the players anymore, maybe the
teams could try injecting steroids into baseballs. Or cricket balls,
though I suspect that wouldn't be cricket.
Have you ever handled a cricket ball?
Can't say that I have.
They are like concrete cannon-balls!
Mmm.. perhaps that would liven up the game somewhat...
Might break a few bats, though.
I wouldn't want to get in the way of one.
--
John #1782
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: AA: For all you yanks: Keep your balls moist! |
18 Dec 2007 03:32:48 AM |
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:52:38 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <h57cm3pkj9fknashjs8d7ol7i5n9jjjpdr@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 00:12:56 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <7a89m31suabt0ehld76jd2bhfu3sm18lhf@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
Why a soggy baseball flies further
15 December 2007
"A DRY baseball should fly further than a soggy one, shouldn't it?
Well, maybe not, because it turns out that a little moisture has an
odd effect on flying balls.
The Colorado Rockies baseball team plays in high-altitude Denver,
where the thin air means baseballs travel up to 6 metres further than
at sea level. So since 2002, in the name of fair play, the team has
placed game balls in a high-humidity chamber for several months prior
to a game, reasoning that moist, heavier balls will be more sluggish
than dry ones.
Now physicists Edward Meyer and John Bohn at the University of
Colorado at Boulder say the Rockies may have it backwards: moisture
may make the ball fly even further. In experiments, they found that
two months in humidity of 30 to 50 per cent increased the diameter of
baseballs by an average of 0.24 per cent, and their mass by 1.6 per
cent (www.arxiv.org/0712.0380).
True, the increased squishiness of these bigger, heavier balls means
they come off the bat slightly more slowly than a dry ball, and they
experience more drag than a normal ball. But their extra mass more
than counters these effects by making these balls take longer to
decelerate. Moreover, moist balls thrown by pitchers curve less than
dry baseballs, making them an easier target for batters. Such
aerodynamic effects could also affect other ball games, such as
cricket."
<http://www.newscientist.com/channel/fundamentals/mg19626344.800-why-a-sogg
y-b
aseball-flies-further.html>
Since they're not supposed to use them on the players anymore, maybe the
teams could try injecting steroids into baseballs. Or cricket balls,
though I suspect that wouldn't be cricket.
Have you ever handled a cricket ball?
Can't say that I have.
Not enough male crickets in your area?
They are like concrete cannon-balls!
Mmm.. perhaps that would liven up the game somewhat...
Might break a few bats, though.
I wouldn't want to get in the way of one.
Darn tootin' you wouldn't!
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: AA: For all you yanks: Keep your balls moist! |
18 Dec 2007 05:49:16 PM |
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In article <ms4fm3pvm178oumnlp40t96sv0vdusscui@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:52:38 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <h57cm3pkj9fknashjs8d7ol7i5n9jjjpdr@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 00:12:56 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <7a89m31suabt0ehld76jd2bhfu3sm18lhf@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
Why a soggy baseball flies further
15 December 2007
"A DRY baseball should fly further than a soggy one, shouldn't it?
Well, maybe not, because it turns out that a little moisture has an
odd effect on flying balls.
The Colorado Rockies baseball team plays in high-altitude Denver,
where the thin air means baseballs travel up to 6 metres further than
at sea level. So since 2002, in the name of fair play, the team has
placed game balls in a high-humidity chamber for several months prior
to a game, reasoning that moist, heavier balls will be more sluggish
than dry ones.
Now physicists Edward Meyer and John Bohn at the University of
Colorado at Boulder say the Rockies may have it backwards: moisture
may make the ball fly even further. In experiments, they found that
two months in humidity of 30 to 50 per cent increased the diameter of
baseballs by an average of 0.24 per cent, and their mass by 1.6 per
cent (www.arxiv.org/0712.0380).
True, the increased squishiness of these bigger, heavier balls means
they come off the bat slightly more slowly than a dry ball, and they
experience more drag than a normal ball. But their extra mass more
than counters these effects by making these balls take longer to
decelerate. Moreover, moist balls thrown by pitchers curve less than
dry baseballs, making them an easier target for batters. Such
aerodynamic effects could also affect other ball games, such as
cricket."
<http://www.newscientist.com/channel/fundamentals/mg19626344.800-why-a-s
ogg
y-b
aseball-flies-further.html>
Since they're not supposed to use them on the players anymore, maybe the
teams could try injecting steroids into baseballs. Or cricket balls,
though I suspect that wouldn't be cricket.
Have you ever handled a cricket ball?
Can't say that I have.
Not enough male crickets in your area?
Nah, the tarantulas and scorpions ate them all. An I'm definitely not
going near them!
They are like concrete cannon-balls!
Mmm.. perhaps that would liven up the game somewhat...
Might break a few bats, though.
I wouldn't want to get in the way of one.
Darn tootin' you wouldn't!
Heh!
--
John #1782
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| User: "Lucifer" |
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18 Dec 2007 03:53:11 AM |
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On Dec 18, 9:32 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:52:38 -0800, johac
<jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <h57cm3pkj9fknashjs8d7ol7i5n9jjj...@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 00:12:56 -0800, johac
<jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <7a89m31suabt0ehld76jd2bhfu3sm18...@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
Why a soggy baseball flies further
15 December 2007
"A DRY baseball should fly further than a soggy one, shouldn't it?
Well, maybe not, because it turns out that a little moisture has an
odd effect on flying balls.
The Colorado Rockies baseball team plays in high-altitude Denver,
where the thin air means baseballs travel up to 6 metres further than
at sea level. So since 2002, in the name of fair play, the team has
placed game balls in a high-humidity chamber for several months prior
to a game, reasoning that moist, heavier balls will be more sluggish
than dry ones.
Now physicists Edward Meyer and John Bohn at the University of
Colorado at Boulder say the Rockies may have it backwards: moisture
may make the ball fly even further. In experiments, they found that
two months in humidity of 30 to 50 per cent increased the diameter of
baseballs by an average of 0.24 per cent, and their mass by 1.6 per
cent (www.arxiv.org/0712.0380).
True, the increased squishiness of these bigger, heavier balls means
they come off the bat slightly more slowly than a dry ball, and they
experience more drag than a normal ball. But their extra mass more
than counters these effects by making these balls take longer to
decelerate. Moreover, moist balls thrown by pitchers curve less than
dry baseballs, making them an easier target for batters. Such
aerodynamic effects could also affect other ball games, such as
cricket."
<http://www.newscientist.com/channel/fundamentals/mg19626344.800-why-a...
y-b
aseball-flies-further.html>
Since they're not supposed to use them on the players anymore, maybe the
teams could try injecting steroids into baseballs. Or cricket balls,
though I suspect that wouldn't be cricket.
Have you ever handled a cricket ball?
Can't say that I have.
Not enough male crickets in your area?
They are like concrete cannon-balls!
Mmm.. perhaps that would liven up the game somewhat...
Might break a few bats, though.
I wouldn't want to get in the way of one.
Darn tootin' you wouldn't!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVVMeaEi604
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1mOxIwcK9c
--
Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil
and General Purpose Igor
The Anti-Theist, BAAWA Lowly Evilmeister and tamer of the Demon Duck
of Doom
Convicted by Earthquack
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: AA: For all you yanks: Keep your balls moist! |
18 Dec 2007 03:23:54 PM |
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On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:53:11 -0800 (PST), Lucifer
<wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 18, 9:32 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:52:38 -0800, johac
<jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <h57cm3pkj9fknashjs8d7ol7i5n9jjj...@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 00:12:56 -0800, johac
<jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <7a89m31suabt0ehld76jd2bhfu3sm18...@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
Why a soggy baseball flies further
15 December 2007
"A DRY baseball should fly further than a soggy one, shouldn't it?
Well, maybe not, because it turns out that a little moisture has an
odd effect on flying balls.
The Colorado Rockies baseball team plays in high-altitude Denver,
where the thin air means baseballs travel up to 6 metres further than
at sea level. So since 2002, in the name of fair play, the team has
placed game balls in a high-humidity chamber for several months prior
to a game, reasoning that moist, heavier balls will be more sluggish
than dry ones.
Now physicists Edward Meyer and John Bohn at the University of
Colorado at Boulder say the Rockies may have it backwards: moisture
may make the ball fly even further. In experiments, they found that
two months in humidity of 30 to 50 per cent increased the diameter of
baseballs by an average of 0.24 per cent, and their mass by 1.6 per
cent (www.arxiv.org/0712.0380).
True, the increased squishiness of these bigger, heavier balls means
they come off the bat slightly more slowly than a dry ball, and they
experience more drag than a normal ball. But their extra mass more
than counters these effects by making these balls take longer to
decelerate. Moreover, moist balls thrown by pitchers curve less than
dry baseballs, making them an easier target for batters. Such
aerodynamic effects could also affect other ball games, such as
cricket."
<http://www.newscientist.com/channel/fundamentals/mg19626344.800-why-a...
y-b
aseball-flies-further.html>
Since they're not supposed to use them on the players anymore, maybe the
teams could try injecting steroids into baseballs. Or cricket balls,
though I suspect that wouldn't be cricket.
Have you ever handled a cricket ball?
Can't say that I have.
Not enough male crickets in your area?
They are like concrete cannon-balls!
Mmm.. perhaps that would liven up the game somewhat...
Might break a few bats, though.
I wouldn't want to get in the way of one.
Darn tootin' you wouldn't!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVVMeaEi604
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1mOxIwcK9c
My wife was the best friend of David Hooke's missus (since
kindergarten), and naturally I was dragged to their place endlessly.
In one of his early matches, (before helmets and guards), he had his
jaw completely shattered by a bouncer, and was forced to eat through a
straw for some months.
(The X-Rays were a mess)
So at these dinner parties, we were all tucking into beef wellington,
and was sucking a vitamized grey mash of the same thing.
He was not normally calm at the best of times, but this set him in a
permanent rage!
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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| Title: Re: AA: For all you yanks: Keep your balls moist! |
17 Dec 2007 10:04:20 PM |
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On Dec 15, 10:56 pm, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
Why a soggy baseball flies further
15 December 2007
"A DRY baseball should fly further than a soggy one, shouldn't it?
Well, maybe not, because it turns out that a little moisture has an
odd effect on flying balls.
The Colorado Rockies baseball team plays in high-altitude Denver,
where the thin air means baseballs travel up to 6 metres further than
at sea level.
Except it's not the thin air...it's the lower gravity in Denver that
helps balls travel further. This has been known for some time with
studies done in the Texas League (at a time when almost all of the
ballparks had the same dimensions but radically different elevations)
as well as the very similar Busch Stadium in St. Louis and Atlanta-
Fulton County Stadium which also had almost identical dimensions but
radically different effects on offense. Bill James was talking about
this over twenty years ago. What took the guys at CU so long to figure
out what baseball professionals have known for two decades?
Rich Goranson
Amherst, NY, USA
aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1
EAC Department of Cruel and Unusual Choreography
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| User: "Ben Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: AA: For all you yanks: Keep your balls moist! |
17 Dec 2007 09:51:35 PM |
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On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:26:59 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
Why a soggy baseball flies further
15 December 2007
"A DRY baseball should fly further than a soggy one, shouldn't it?
Well, maybe not, because it turns out that a little moisture has an
odd effect on flying balls.
The Colorado Rockies baseball team plays in high-altitude Denver,
where the thin air means baseballs travel up to 6 metres further than
at sea level. So since 2002, in the name of fair play, the team has
placed game balls in a high-humidity chamber for several months prior
to a game, reasoning that moist, heavier balls will be more sluggish
than dry ones.
Now physicists Edward Meyer and John Bohn at the University of
Colorado at Boulder say the Rockies may have it backwards: moisture
may make the ball fly even further. In experiments, they found that
two months in humidity of 30 to 50 per cent increased the diameter of
baseballs by an average of 0.24 per cent, and their mass by 1.6 per
cent (www.arxiv.org/0712.0380).
True, the increased squishiness of these bigger, heavier balls means
they come off the bat slightly more slowly than a dry ball, and they
experience more drag than a normal ball. But their extra mass more
than counters these effects by making these balls take longer to
decelerate. Moreover, moist balls thrown by pitchers curve less than
dry baseballs, making them an easier target for batters. Such
aerodynamic effects could also affect other ball games, such as
cricket."
<http://www.newscientist.com/channel/fundamentals/mg19626344.800-why-a-soggy-baseball-flies-further.html>
Amazing, sounds like baseball's "Cane Toady," though certainly not in the same
league.
Ben
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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18 Dec 2007 02:10:09 AM |
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:51:35 -0500, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:26:59 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
Why a soggy baseball flies further
15 December 2007
"A DRY baseball should fly further than a soggy one, shouldn't it?
Well, maybe not, because it turns out that a little moisture has an
odd effect on flying balls.
The Colorado Rockies baseball team plays in high-altitude Denver,
where the thin air means baseballs travel up to 6 metres further than
at sea level. So since 2002, in the name of fair play, the team has
placed game balls in a high-humidity chamber for several months prior
to a game, reasoning that moist, heavier balls will be more sluggish
than dry ones.
Now physicists Edward Meyer and John Bohn at the University of
Colorado at Boulder say the Rockies may have it backwards: moisture
may make the ball fly even further. In experiments, they found that
two months in humidity of 30 to 50 per cent increased the diameter of
baseballs by an average of 0.24 per cent, and their mass by 1.6 per
cent (www.arxiv.org/0712.0380).
True, the increased squishiness of these bigger, heavier balls means
they come off the bat slightly more slowly than a dry ball, and they
experience more drag than a normal ball. But their extra mass more
than counters these effects by making these balls take longer to
decelerate. Moreover, moist balls thrown by pitchers curve less than
dry baseballs, making them an easier target for batters. Such
aerodynamic effects could also affect other ball games, such as
cricket."
<http://www.newscientist.com/channel/fundamentals/mg19626344.800-why-a-soggy-baseball-flies-further.html>
Amazing, sounds like baseball's "Cane Toady," though certainly not in the same
league.
I have never played cane toad cricket.
Too far south for that kind of thing!
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