Religions > Atheism > AA: Letters to Reality, not Santa... An editor is put in his place by atheists.
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29 Dec 2007 09:42:18 PM |
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AA: Letters to Reality, not Santa... An editor is put in his place by atheists. |
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19626350.300-reason-or-religion.html
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From John Falla
"It may be true, as your editorial states, that replacing religion
with science is fanciful (10 November, p 3). But what's not fanciful
is separating the state and religion. Prying the dying hands of the
Anglican church from the British state is a move that is long overdue.
What is also not fanciful is separating education and religion. I am
appalled by the continued state funding of faith schools in the UK.
London, UK"
.........
From Peter Scott
"Why is belief so dangerous? Well, if people allow themselves to be
persuaded to accept one absurd idea, it becomes much easier to make
them accept others, such as statements that Muslims, blacks or Jews
are inferior or damned, for example. From there, it is a small step to
condoning and justifying the destruction of those groups.
As Mark Twain said, "Faith is believing something you know ain't
true."
North Walsham, Norfolk, UK"
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From John Osborn
"What good is religion? I'll tell you. It is by far the greatest
labour-saving device ever invented.
Why?
Because once you believe, you never have to think again. The amount of
painful effort this must have saved throughout history is enormous!
Martinez, California, US"
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: AA: Letters to Reality, not Santa... An editor is put in his place by atheists. |
30 Dec 2007 01:54:07 AM |
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In article <el4en3dr6f0ce4goljudlhmdp1hrqmla71@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19626350.300-reason-or-religion.html
........
From John Falla
"It may be true, as your editorial states, that replacing religion
with science is fanciful (10 November, p 3). But what's not fanciful
is separating the state and religion. Prying the dying hands of the
Anglican church from the British state is a move that is long overdue.
What is also not fanciful is separating education and religion. I am
appalled by the continued state funding of faith schools in the UK.
London, UK"
And in the US, Bush is trying to do the reverse with his "Faith Bassed
Initiative" nonsense.
........
From Peter Scott
"Why is belief so dangerous? Well, if people allow themselves to be
persuaded to accept one absurd idea, it becomes much easier to make
them accept others, such as statements that Muslims, blacks or Jews
are inferior or damned, for example. From there, it is a small step to
condoning and justifying the destruction of those groups.
As Mark Twain said, "Faith is believing something you know ain't
true."
Or as Voltaire said: "If they can make us believe absurdities, they can
make us commit atrocities."
North Walsham, Norfolk, UK"
........
From John Osborn
"What good is religion? I'll tell you. It is by far the greatest
labour-saving device ever invented.
Why?
Because once you believe, you never have to think again. The amount of
painful effort this must have saved throughout history is enormous!
That's the truth.
Martinez, California, US"
--
John #1782
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: AA: Letters to Reality, not Santa... An editor is put in his place by atheists. |
30 Dec 2007 02:45:07 AM |
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On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 23:54:07 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <el4en3dr6f0ce4goljudlhmdp1hrqmla71@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19626350.300-reason-or-religion.html
........
From John Falla
"It may be true, as your editorial states, that replacing religion
with science is fanciful (10 November, p 3). But what's not fanciful
is separating the state and religion. Prying the dying hands of the
Anglican church from the British state is a move that is long overdue.
What is also not fanciful is separating education and religion. I am
appalled by the continued state funding of faith schools in the UK.
London, UK"
And in the US, Bush is trying to do the reverse with his "Faith Bassed
Initiative" nonsense.
Urgghh!
I can't stop myself.
"Faith Bassed"?
Is that some sort of Southern Male Choir?
Or a prayer for fish?
........
From Peter Scott
"Why is belief so dangerous? Well, if people allow themselves to be
persuaded to accept one absurd idea, it becomes much easier to make
them accept others, such as statements that Muslims, blacks or Jews
are inferior or damned, for example. From there, it is a small step to
condoning and justifying the destruction of those groups.
As Mark Twain said, "Faith is believing something you know ain't
true."
Or as Voltaire said: "If they can make us believe absurdities, they can
make us commit atrocities."
"Voltare may have been butt ugly, but he pulled the birds, and wrote
some good *****."
- Ben Franklin
(New Yorker, 1799, Vol 1, issue 22)
North Walsham, Norfolk, UK"
........
From John Osborn
"What good is religion? I'll tell you. It is by far the greatest
labour-saving device ever invented.
Why?
Because once you believe, you never have to think again. The amount of
painful effort this must have saved throughout history is enormous!
That's the truth.
An' from the "Terminator State"!
Martinez, California, US"
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: AA: Letters to Reality, not Santa... An editor is put in his place by atheists. |
31 Dec 2007 12:58:59 AM |
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In article <j4men3t1lle9tlcfublo97ufguqje5j5k5@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 23:54:07 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <el4en3dr6f0ce4goljudlhmdp1hrqmla71@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19626350.300-reason-or-religion.html
........
From John Falla
"It may be true, as your editorial states, that replacing religion
with science is fanciful (10 November, p 3). But what's not fanciful
is separating the state and religion. Prying the dying hands of the
Anglican church from the British state is a move that is long overdue.
What is also not fanciful is separating education and religion. I am
appalled by the continued state funding of faith schools in the UK.
London, UK"
And in the US, Bush is trying to do the reverse with his "Faith Bassed
Initiative" nonsense.
Urgghh!
I can't stop myself.
"Faith Bassed"?
Is that some sort of Southern Male Choir?
Or a prayer for fish?
Fish.
........
From Peter Scott
"Why is belief so dangerous? Well, if people allow themselves to be
persuaded to accept one absurd idea, it becomes much easier to make
them accept others, such as statements that Muslims, blacks or Jews
are inferior or damned, for example. From there, it is a small step to
condoning and justifying the destruction of those groups.
As Mark Twain said, "Faith is believing something you know ain't
true."
Or as Voltaire said: "If they can make us believe absurdities, they can
make us commit atrocities."
"Voltare may have been butt ugly, but he pulled the birds, and wrote
some good *****."
Heh! No doubt he did.
- Ben Franklin
(New Yorker, 1799, Vol 1, issue 22)
North Walsham, Norfolk, UK"
........
From John Osborn
"What good is religion? I'll tell you. It is by far the greatest
labour-saving device ever invented.
Why?
Because once you believe, you never have to think again. The amount of
painful effort this must have saved throughout history is enormous!
That's the truth.
An' from the "Terminator State"!
Martinez, California, US"
--
John #1782
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: AA: Letters to Reality, not Santa... An editor is put in hisplace by atheists. |
30 Dec 2007 02:52:36 AM |
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Michael Gray wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 23:54:07 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <el4en3dr6f0ce4goljudlhmdp1hrqmla71@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19626350.300-reason-or-religion.html
........
From John Falla
"It may be true, as your editorial states, that replacing religion
with science is fanciful (10 November, p 3). But what's not fanciful
is separating the state and religion. Prying the dying hands of the
Anglican church from the British state is a move that is long overdue.
What is also not fanciful is separating education and religion. I am
appalled by the continued state funding of faith schools in the UK.
London, UK"
And in the US, Bush is trying to do the reverse with his "Faith Bassed
Initiative" nonsense.
Urgghh!
I can't stop myself.
"Faith Bassed"?
Is that some sort of Southern Male Choir?
Or a prayer for fish?
"Y'know, I have one simple request, and that is to have sharks with
frickin' laser beams attached to their heads! ... What do we have?"
"Sea-bass."
"...right."
"They are faith bass."
"Are they ill-tempered?"
"Absolutely."
(Sorry, I had to go there.)
--
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*--------------------------------------------------*
* "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act *
* of the whole American people which declared that *
* their legislature should make no law respecting *
* an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the *
* free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of *
* separation between church and state." *
* --Thomas Jefferson, 1802 *
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: AA: Letters to Reality, not Santa... An editor is put in his place by atheists. |
30 Dec 2007 11:55:25 PM |
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 00:52:36 -0800, DanielSan
<petersonj07@comcast.net> wrote:
Michael Gray wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 23:54:07 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <el4en3dr6f0ce4goljudlhmdp1hrqmla71@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19626350.300-reason-or-religion.html
........
From John Falla
"It may be true, as your editorial states, that replacing religion
with science is fanciful (10 November, p 3). But what's not fanciful
is separating the state and religion. Prying the dying hands of the
Anglican church from the British state is a move that is long overdue.
What is also not fanciful is separating education and religion. I am
appalled by the continued state funding of faith schools in the UK.
London, UK"
And in the US, Bush is trying to do the reverse with his "Faith Bassed
Initiative" nonsense.
Urgghh!
I can't stop myself.
"Faith Bassed"?
Is that some sort of Southern Male Choir?
Or a prayer for fish?
"Y'know, I have one simple request, and that is to have sharks with
frickin' laser beams attached to their heads! ... What do we have?"
"Sea-bass."
"...right."
"They are faith bass."
"Are they ill-tempered?"
"Absolutely."
(Sorry, I had to go there.)
Carlin?
or Miller?
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: AA: Letters to Reality, not Santa... An editor is put in hisplace by atheists. |
31 Dec 2007 12:03:06 AM |
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Michael Gray wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 00:52:36 -0800, DanielSan
<petersonj07@comcast.net> wrote:
Michael Gray wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 23:54:07 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <el4en3dr6f0ce4goljudlhmdp1hrqmla71@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19626350.300-reason-or-religion.html
........
From John Falla
"It may be true, as your editorial states, that replacing religion
with science is fanciful (10 November, p 3). But what's not fanciful
is separating the state and religion. Prying the dying hands of the
Anglican church from the British state is a move that is long overdue.
What is also not fanciful is separating education and religion. I am
appalled by the continued state funding of faith schools in the UK.
London, UK"
And in the US, Bush is trying to do the reverse with his "Faith Bassed
Initiative" nonsense.
Urgghh!
I can't stop myself.
"Faith Bassed"?
Is that some sort of Southern Male Choir?
Or a prayer for fish?
"Y'know, I have one simple request, and that is to have sharks with
frickin' laser beams attached to their heads! ... What do we have?"
"Sea-bass."
"...right."
"They are faith bass."
"Are they ill-tempered?"
"Absolutely."
(Sorry, I had to go there.)
Carlin?
or Miller?
Actually, Mike Meyers and Robert Wagner. ;-)
--
****************************************************
* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*--------------------------------------------------*
* "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act *
* of the whole American people which declared that *
* their legislature should make no law respecting *
* an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the *
* free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of *
* separation between church and state." *
* --Thomas Jefferson, 1802 *
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