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Religions > Atheism |
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"Steve Knight" |
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01 Dec 2005 10:48:39 PM |
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a.a. Life of John Paul...? |
I'm channel flipping and what do I see... A fucking special about
John Paul! The Poke of Superstition!
Excuse me! I'm not in the mood for national air time for some
murdering ***** being praised by made up subjectivity foisted by the
scum that gave us Mother Theresa and all the other ilk of ground
stains, mirror images and shadows on dog ***** to denote a superior
being that can do anything except prove itself.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: a.a. Life of John Paul...? |
02 Dec 2005 12:37:52 AM |
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In article <h0kvo1pgr606q4d21gj5l9lsnpsskvkutc@4ax.com>,
Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net> wrote:
I'm channel flipping and what do I see... A fucking special about
John Paul! The Poke of Superstition!
Excuse me! I'm not in the mood for national air time for some
murdering ***** being praised by made up subjectivity foisted by the
scum that gave us Mother Theresa and all the other ilk of ground
stains, mirror images and shadows on dog ***** to denote a superior
being that can do anything except prove itself.
I would hope that they would at least mention all of the people who died
of AIDS because of his church's idiotic aversions to condoms.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: a.a. Life of John Paul...? |
02 Dec 2005 05:14:19 AM |
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On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 22:37:52 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:
In article <h0kvo1pgr606q4d21gj5l9lsnpsskvkutc@4ax.com>,
Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net> wrote:
I'm channel flipping and what do I see... A fucking special about
John Paul! The Poke of Superstition!
Excuse me! I'm not in the mood for national air time for some
murdering ***** being praised by made up subjectivity foisted by the
scum that gave us Mother Theresa and all the other ilk of ground
stains, mirror images and shadows on dog ***** to denote a superior
being that can do anything except prove itself.
I would hope that they would at least mention all of the people who died
of AIDS because of his church's idiotic aversions to condoms.
They could equally claim that these people would not have even had the
chance to be born, if not for their self-serving general ban on
contraceptives.
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| User: "Steve Knight" |
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| Title: Re: a.a. Life of John Paul...? |
02 Dec 2005 07:57:35 PM |
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On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 21:44:19 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 22:37:52 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:
In article <h0kvo1pgr606q4d21gj5l9lsnpsskvkutc@4ax.com>,
Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net> wrote:
I'm channel flipping and what do I see... A fucking special about
John Paul! The Poke of Superstition!
Excuse me! I'm not in the mood for national air time for some
murdering ***** being praised by made up subjectivity foisted by the
scum that gave us Mother Theresa and all the other ilk of ground
stains, mirror images and shadows on dog ***** to denote a superior
being that can do anything except prove itself.
I would hope that they would at least mention all of the people who died
of AIDS because of his church's idiotic aversions to condoms.
They could equally claim that these people would not have even had the
chance to be born, if not for their self-serving general ban on
contraceptives.
That's delving into the realm of 'would be'. Not that the
superstitious are above any moral repugnancy. They consider life at
inception, a blob of replicating meat with rights, a human being but
have no problem letting people die from debilitating diseases because
of stupid sex 'laws'.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: a.a. Life of John Paul...? |
03 Dec 2005 01:06:16 AM |
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In article <chu1p1de06ij77gjkmkscaahaogfhh5b54@4ax.com>,
Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net> wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 21:44:19 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 22:37:52 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:
In article <h0kvo1pgr606q4d21gj5l9lsnpsskvkutc@4ax.com>,
Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net> wrote:
I'm channel flipping and what do I see... A fucking special about
John Paul! The Poke of Superstition!
Excuse me! I'm not in the mood for national air time for some
murdering ***** being praised by made up subjectivity foisted by the
scum that gave us Mother Theresa and all the other ilk of ground
stains, mirror images and shadows on dog ***** to denote a superior
being that can do anything except prove itself.
I would hope that they would at least mention all of the people who died
of AIDS because of his church's idiotic aversions to condoms.
They could equally claim that these people would not have even had the
chance to be born, if not for their self-serving general ban on
contraceptives.
That's delving into the realm of 'would be'. Not that the
superstitious are above any moral repugnancy. They consider life at
inception, a blob of replicating meat with rights, a human being but
have no problem letting people die from debilitating diseases because
of stupid sex 'laws'.
Since they deny themselves sex (at least in theory) they want to punish
those who do have and enjoy it with unwanted pregnancies, disease, and
death.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "Steve Knight" |
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| Title: Re: a.a. Life of John Paul...? |
03 Dec 2005 09:09:07 PM |
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On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 23:06:16 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:
In article <chu1p1de06ij77gjkmkscaahaogfhh5b54@4ax.com>,
Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net> wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 21:44:19 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 22:37:52 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:
In article <h0kvo1pgr606q4d21gj5l9lsnpsskvkutc@4ax.com>,
Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net> wrote:
I'm channel flipping and what do I see... A fucking special about
John Paul! The Poke of Superstition!
Excuse me! I'm not in the mood for national air time for some
murdering ***** being praised by made up subjectivity foisted by the
scum that gave us Mother Theresa and all the other ilk of ground
stains, mirror images and shadows on dog ***** to denote a superior
being that can do anything except prove itself.
I would hope that they would at least mention all of the people who died
of AIDS because of his church's idiotic aversions to condoms.
They could equally claim that these people would not have even had the
chance to be born, if not for their self-serving general ban on
contraceptives.
That's delving into the realm of 'would be'. Not that the
superstitious are above any moral repugnancy. They consider life at
inception, a blob of replicating meat with rights, a human being but
have no problem letting people die from debilitating diseases because
of stupid sex 'laws'.
Since they deny themselves sex (at least in theory) they want to punish
those who do have and enjoy it with unwanted pregnancies, disease, and
death.
I think it's the natural consequences of abnormal behavior
instigated by superstitious demands, denying the natural animal
instinct to reproduce or have sex.
The psychology of the RCC if a text book example of aberrant human
behavior.
Sadly, their cult has far reaching effect on innocent believers
that can't discern fact from doctrine. So people die.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: a.a. Life of John Paul...? |
04 Dec 2005 01:46:07 AM |
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In article <tvm4p1pcom5gaf7285k9t4mcv0hmlk1f0q@4ax.com>,
Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net> wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 23:06:16 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:
In article <chu1p1de06ij77gjkmkscaahaogfhh5b54@4ax.com>,
Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net> wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 21:44:19 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 22:37:52 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:
In article <h0kvo1pgr606q4d21gj5l9lsnpsskvkutc@4ax.com>,
Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net> wrote:
I'm channel flipping and what do I see... A fucking special about
John Paul! The Poke of Superstition!
Excuse me! I'm not in the mood for national air time for some
murdering ***** being praised by made up subjectivity foisted by the
scum that gave us Mother Theresa and all the other ilk of ground
stains, mirror images and shadows on dog ***** to denote a superior
being that can do anything except prove itself.
I would hope that they would at least mention all of the people who died
of AIDS because of his church's idiotic aversions to condoms.
They could equally claim that these people would not have even had the
chance to be born, if not for their self-serving general ban on
contraceptives.
That's delving into the realm of 'would be'. Not that the
superstitious are above any moral repugnancy. They consider life at
inception, a blob of replicating meat with rights, a human being but
have no problem letting people die from debilitating diseases because
of stupid sex 'laws'.
Since they deny themselves sex (at least in theory) they want to punish
those who do have and enjoy it with unwanted pregnancies, disease, and
death.
I think it's the natural consequences of abnormal behavior
instigated by superstitious demands, denying the natural animal
instinct to reproduce or have sex.
The RCC is very big on self denial. They must believe that suffering is
good. Maybe it's supposed bring them closer to their god. One would
think that if they were really serious about chastity, they would
castrate themselves, but then they wouldn't suffer as much.
The psychology of the RCC if a text book example of aberrant human
behavior.
True. Not only do they deny themselves common human pleasures, but they
live in constant fear of eternal suffering in the next world. They also
teach that there is an endless list of ways one can go to Hell. Fear and
denial. Not a normal existence.
Sadly, their cult has far reaching effect on innocent believers
that can't discern fact from doctrine. So people die.
They brainwash people, there is no other term for it, as kids to deny
themselves and fear Hell. They tried to do so with me. Fortunately, as I
grew up I earned to discern truth from fiction and so I escaped. Others,
sadly, still cling to the superstition and suffer and die for it.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: a.a. Life of John Paul...? |
04 Dec 2005 05:02:54 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 23:46:07 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <tvm4p1pcom5gaf7285k9t4mcv0hmlk1f0q@4ax.com>,
Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net> wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 23:06:16 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:
In article <chu1p1de06ij77gjkmkscaahaogfhh5b54@4ax.com>,
Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net> wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 21:44:19 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 22:37:52 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:
In article <h0kvo1pgr606q4d21gj5l9lsnpsskvkutc@4ax.com>,
Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net> wrote:
I'm channel flipping and what do I see... A fucking special about
John Paul! The Poke of Superstition!
Excuse me! I'm not in the mood for national air time for some
murdering ***** being praised by made up subjectivity foisted by the
scum that gave us Mother Theresa and all the other ilk of ground
stains, mirror images and shadows on dog ***** to denote a superior
being that can do anything except prove itself.
I would hope that they would at least mention all of the people who died
of AIDS because of his church's idiotic aversions to condoms.
They could equally claim that these people would not have even had the
chance to be born, if not for their self-serving general ban on
contraceptives.
That's delving into the realm of 'would be'. Not that the
superstitious are above any moral repugnancy. They consider life at
inception, a blob of replicating meat with rights, a human being but
have no problem letting people die from debilitating diseases because
of stupid sex 'laws'.
Since they deny themselves sex (at least in theory) they want to punish
those who do have and enjoy it with unwanted pregnancies, disease, and
death.
I think it's the natural consequences of abnormal behavior
instigated by superstitious demands, denying the natural animal
instinct to reproduce or have sex.
The RCC is very big on self denial. They must believe that suffering is
good. Maybe it's supposed bring them closer to their god. One would
think that if they were really serious about chastity, they would
castrate themselves, but then they wouldn't suffer as much.
The psychology of the RCC if a text book example of aberrant human
behavior.
True. Not only do they deny themselves common human pleasures, but they
live in constant fear of eternal suffering in the next world.
Disagree. If that was the case they would have been operating
entirely differently for millenia.
They also
teach that there is an endless list of ways one can go to Hell. Fear and
denial. Not a normal existence.
What else can be expected from perverts?
Sadly, their cult has far reaching effect on innocent believers
that can't discern fact from doctrine. So people die.
They brainwash people, there is no other term for it, as kids to deny
themselves and fear Hell. They tried to do so with me. Fortunately, as I
grew up I earned to discern truth from fiction and so I escaped. Others,
sadly, still cling to the superstition and suffer and die for it.
Their 'life' depends on keeping the terror levels so the intellect is
kept locked out.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: a.a. Life of John Paul...? |
05 Dec 2005 12:22:50 AM |
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In article <4kp6p1dps4unj87c4oq5mj1bs8di3pt9ug@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 23:46:07 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <tvm4p1pcom5gaf7285k9t4mcv0hmlk1f0q@4ax.com>,
Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net> wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 23:06:16 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:
In article <chu1p1de06ij77gjkmkscaahaogfhh5b54@4ax.com>,
Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net> wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 21:44:19 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 22:37:52 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:
In article <h0kvo1pgr606q4d21gj5l9lsnpsskvkutc@4ax.com>,
Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net> wrote:
I'm channel flipping and what do I see... A fucking special
about
John Paul! The Poke of Superstition!
Excuse me! I'm not in the mood for national air time for some
murdering ***** being praised by made up subjectivity foisted by
the
scum that gave us Mother Theresa and all the other ilk of ground
stains, mirror images and shadows on dog ***** to denote a superior
being that can do anything except prove itself.
I would hope that they would at least mention all of the people who
died
of AIDS because of his church's idiotic aversions to condoms.
They could equally claim that these people would not have even had the
chance to be born, if not for their self-serving general ban on
contraceptives.
That's delving into the realm of 'would be'. Not that the
superstitious are above any moral repugnancy. They consider life at
inception, a blob of replicating meat with rights, a human being but
have no problem letting people die from debilitating diseases because
of stupid sex 'laws'.
Since they deny themselves sex (at least in theory) they want to punish
those who do have and enjoy it with unwanted pregnancies, disease, and
death.
I think it's the natural consequences of abnormal behavior
instigated by superstitious demands, denying the natural animal
instinct to reproduce or have sex.
The RCC is very big on self denial. They must believe that suffering is
good. Maybe it's supposed bring them closer to their god. One would
think that if they were really serious about chastity, they would
castrate themselves, but then they wouldn't suffer as much.
The psychology of the RCC if a text book example of aberrant human
behavior.
True. Not only do they deny themselves common human pleasures, but they
live in constant fear of eternal suffering in the next world.
Disagree. If that was the case they would have been operating
entirely differently for millenia.
There are some who actually try to live as the Church preaches. They are
fools. There probably many more who give lip service to the above, but
behave very differently. They are hypocrites.
They also
teach that there is an endless list of ways one can go to Hell. Fear and
denial. Not a normal existence.
What else can be expected from perverts?
Somehow, because they are 'holy' they think that they can weasel out of
punishment
Sadly, their cult has far reaching effect on innocent believers
that can't discern fact from doctrine. So people die.
They brainwash people, there is no other term for it, as kids to deny
themselves and fear Hell. They tried to do so with me. Fortunately, as I
grew up I earned to discern truth from fiction and so I escaped. Others,
sadly, still cling to the superstition and suffer and die for it.
Their 'life' depends on keeping the terror levels so the intellect is
kept locked out.
True. Guilt and fear rule the believers. That's the way that the Church
likes it.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: a.a. Life of John Paul...? |
05 Dec 2005 10:12:56 AM |
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On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 22:22:50 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <4kp6p1dps4unj87c4oq5mj1bs8di3pt9ug@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 23:46:07 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <tvm4p1pcom5gaf7285k9t4mcv0hmlk1f0q@4ax.com>,
Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net> wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 23:06:16 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:
In article <chu1p1de06ij77gjkmkscaahaogfhh5b54@4ax.com>,
Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net> wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 21:44:19 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 22:37:52 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:
In article <h0kvo1pgr606q4d21gj5l9lsnpsskvkutc@4ax.com>,
Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net> wrote:
I'm channel flipping and what do I see... A fucking special
about
John Paul! The Poke of Superstition!
Excuse me! I'm not in the mood for national air time for some
murdering ***** being praised by made up subjectivity foisted by
the
scum that gave us Mother Theresa and all the other ilk of ground
stains, mirror images and shadows on dog ***** to denote a superior
being that can do anything except prove itself.
I would hope that they would at least mention all of the people who
died
of AIDS because of his church's idiotic aversions to condoms.
They could equally claim that these people would not have even had the
chance to be born, if not for their self-serving general ban on
contraceptives.
That's delving into the realm of 'would be'. Not that the
superstitious are above any moral repugnancy. They consider life at
inception, a blob of replicating meat with rights, a human being but
have no problem letting people die from debilitating diseases because
of stupid sex 'laws'.
Since they deny themselves sex (at least in theory) they want to punish
those who do have and enjoy it with unwanted pregnancies, disease, and
death.
I think it's the natural consequences of abnormal behavior
instigated by superstitious demands, denying the natural animal
instinct to reproduce or have sex.
The RCC is very big on self denial. They must believe that suffering is
good. Maybe it's supposed bring them closer to their god. One would
think that if they were really serious about chastity, they would
castrate themselves, but then they wouldn't suffer as much.
The psychology of the RCC if a text book example of aberrant human
behavior.
True. Not only do they deny themselves common human pleasures, but they
live in constant fear of eternal suffering in the next world.
Disagree. If that was the case they would have been operating
entirely differently for millenia.
There are some who actually try to live as the Church preaches.
Which has nothing to do with what the Babble contains.
They are
fools. There probably many more who give lip service to the above, but
behave very differently. They are hypocrites.
They're all hypocrites and amoral.
They also
teach that there is an endless list of ways one can go to Hell. Fear and
denial. Not a normal existence.
What else can be expected from perverts?
Somehow, because they are 'holy' they think that they can weasel out of
punishment
They're aware what they peddle is bronze-age *****.
Sadly, their cult has far reaching effect on innocent believers
that can't discern fact from doctrine. So people die.
They brainwash people, there is no other term for it, as kids to deny
themselves and fear Hell. They tried to do so with me. Fortunately, as I
grew up I earned to discern truth from fiction and so I escaped. Others,
sadly, still cling to the superstition and suffer and die for it.
Their 'life' depends on keeping the terror levels so the intellect is
kept locked out.
True. Guilt and fear rule the believers. That's the way that the Church
likes it.
Ah, profit$.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: a.a. Life of John Paul...? |
07 Dec 2005 12:16:14 AM |
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In article <olp8p1top2fke2nbvf7sjenvq4s3gac2b1@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 22:22:50 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <4kp6p1dps4unj87c4oq5mj1bs8di3pt9ug@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 23:46:07 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <tvm4p1pcom5gaf7285k9t4mcv0hmlk1f0q@4ax.com>,
Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net> wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 23:06:16 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:
In article <chu1p1de06ij77gjkmkscaahaogfhh5b54@4ax.com>,
Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net> wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 21:44:19 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 22:37:52 -0800, johac
<jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:
In article <h0kvo1pgr606q4d21gj5l9lsnpsskvkutc@4ax.com>,
Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net> wrote:
I'm channel flipping and what do I see... A fucking special
about
John Paul! The Poke of Superstition!
Excuse me! I'm not in the mood for national air time for some
murdering ***** being praised by made up subjectivity foisted
by
the
scum that gave us Mother Theresa and all the other ilk of ground
stains, mirror images and shadows on dog ***** to denote a
superior
being that can do anything except prove itself.
I would hope that they would at least mention all of the people
who
died
of AIDS because of his church's idiotic aversions to condoms.
They could equally claim that these people would not have even had
the
chance to be born, if not for their self-serving general ban on
contraceptives.
That's delving into the realm of 'would be'. Not that the
superstitious are above any moral repugnancy. They consider life at
inception, a blob of replicating meat with rights, a human being but
have no problem letting people die from debilitating diseases
because
of stupid sex 'laws'.
Since they deny themselves sex (at least in theory) they want to
punish
those who do have and enjoy it with unwanted pregnancies, disease, and
death.
I think it's the natural consequences of abnormal behavior
instigated by superstitious demands, denying the natural animal
instinct to reproduce or have sex.
The RCC is very big on self denial. They must believe that suffering is
good. Maybe it's supposed bring them closer to their god. One would
think that if they were really serious about chastity, they would
castrate themselves, but then they wouldn't suffer as much.
The psychology of the RCC if a text book example of aberrant human
behavior.
True. Not only do they deny themselves common human pleasures, but they
live in constant fear of eternal suffering in the next world.
Disagree. If that was the case they would have been operating
entirely differently for millenia.
There are some who actually try to live as the Church preaches.
Which has nothing to do with what the Babble contains.
Which is why for many years the RCC tried to suppress the bible. They
like to preach about the 'good' Jesus, the one who says "Love thy
neighbor" not the one who comes with a sword. They know how to spin.
They are
fools. There probably many more who give lip service to the above, but
behave very differently. They are hypocrites.
They're all hypocrites and amoral.
I'm not defending the wretched institution, but I have known some
priests who as individuals were fairly decent people, in spite of their
superstition. I grew up in a Catholic environment and in high school,
many of my teachers were priests. Some I actually liked.
(Minor historical footnote: One of teachers was one of the Berrigan
brothers of anti-Vietnam war protest fame 10 years later.)
They also
teach that there is an endless list of ways one can go to Hell. Fear and
denial. Not a normal existence.
What else can be expected from perverts?
Somehow, because they are 'holy' they think that they can weasel out of
punishment
They're aware what they peddle is bronze-age *****.
I'm sure that many are, but the power of self delusion can sometimes be
very strong.
Sadly, their cult has far reaching effect on innocent believers
that can't discern fact from doctrine. So people die.
They brainwash people, there is no other term for it, as kids to deny
themselves and fear Hell. They tried to do so with me. Fortunately, as I
grew up I earned to discern truth from fiction and so I escaped. Others,
sadly, still cling to the superstition and suffer and die for it.
Their 'life' depends on keeping the terror levels so the intellect is
kept locked out.
True. Guilt and fear rule the believers. That's the way that the Church
likes it.
Ah, profit$.
Blessed be those Holy Profit$.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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17 Dec 2005 08:18:04 PM |
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In article <jhachmann-E38BDD.22161406122005@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
Which is why for many years the RCC tried to suppress the bible. They
like to preach about the 'good' Jesus, the one who says "Love thy
neighbor" not the one who comes with a sword. They know how to spin.
Oh, but they do and did bring out Jesus' bad self. Hell fire sermons,
burning people alive, the Inquisition (from which the beloved present
Pope Benedict Arnold comes directly from running) and other assorted
thuggery.
--
"The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any
charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgement of his
peers, is in the highest degree odious and is the foundation of all totali-
tarian government whether Nazi or Communist." -- W. Churchill, Nov 21, 1943
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: a.a. Life of John Paul...? |
08 Dec 2005 10:57:53 AM |
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On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 22:16:14 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <olp8p1top2fke2nbvf7sjenvq4s3gac2b1@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 22:22:50 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <4kp6p1dps4unj87c4oq5mj1bs8di3pt9ug@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
[]
The RCC is very big on self denial. They must believe that suffering is
good. Maybe it's supposed bring them closer to their god. One would
think that if they were really serious about chastity, they would
castrate themselves, but then they wouldn't suffer as much.
The psychology of the RCC if a text book example of aberrant human
behavior.
True. Not only do they deny themselves common human pleasures, but they
live in constant fear of eternal suffering in the next world.
Disagree. If that was the case they would have been operating
entirely differently for millenia.
There are some who actually try to live as the Church preaches.
Which has nothing to do with what the Babble contains.
Which is why for many years the RCC tried to suppress the bible. They
like to preach about the 'good' Jesus, the one who says "Love thy
neighbor" not the one who comes with a sword. They know how to spin.
.... empty threats and empty promises.
They are
fools. There probably many more who give lip service to the above, but
behave very differently. They are hypocrites.
They're all hypocrites and amoral.
I'm not defending the wretched institution, but I have known some
priests who as individuals were fairly decent people, in spite of their
superstition.
Sure, but it all is hypocritical and amorality.
I grew up in a Catholic environment and in high school,
many of my teachers were priests. Some I actually liked.
(Minor historical footnote: One of teachers was one of the Berrigan
brothers of anti-Vietnam war protest fame 10 years later.)
They also
teach that there is an endless list of ways one can go to Hell. Fear and
denial. Not a normal existence.
What else can be expected from perverts?
Somehow, because they are 'holy' they think that they can weasel out of
punishment
They're aware what they peddle is bronze-age *****.
I'm sure that many are, but the power of self delusion can sometimes be
very strong.
Point, but having eternal torture and forgiveness are diametric
opposites.
Sadly, their cult has far reaching effect on innocent believers
that can't discern fact from doctrine. So people die.
They brainwash people, there is no other term for it, as kids to deny
themselves and fear Hell. They tried to do so with me. Fortunately, as I
grew up I earned to discern truth from fiction and so I escaped. Others,
sadly, still cling to the superstition and suffer and die for it.
Their 'life' depends on keeping the terror levels so the intellect is
kept locked out.
True. Guilt and fear rule the believers. That's the way that the Church
likes it.
Ah, profit$.
Blessed be those Holy Profit$.
The dollar, franc, euro, and others be their names.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: a.a. Life of John Paul...? |
09 Dec 2005 12:05:11 AM |
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In article <japgp11tktc9k2vp166ffjo8o9rrc3mqod@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 22:16:14 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <olp8p1top2fke2nbvf7sjenvq4s3gac2b1@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 22:22:50 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <4kp6p1dps4unj87c4oq5mj1bs8di3pt9ug@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
[]
The RCC is very big on self denial. They must believe that suffering
is
good. Maybe it's supposed bring them closer to their god. One would
think that if they were really serious about chastity, they would
castrate themselves, but then they wouldn't suffer as much.
The psychology of the RCC if a text book example of aberrant
human
behavior.
True. Not only do they deny themselves common human pleasures, but
they
live in constant fear of eternal suffering in the next world.
Disagree. If that was the case they would have been operating
entirely differently for millenia.
There are some who actually try to live as the Church preaches.
Which has nothing to do with what the Babble contains.
Which is why for many years the RCC tried to suppress the bible. They
like to preach about the 'good' Jesus, the one who says "Love thy
neighbor" not the one who comes with a sword. They know how to spin.
... empty threats and empty promises.
They are
fools. There probably many more who give lip service to the above, but
behave very differently. They are hypocrites.
They're all hypocrites and amoral.
I'm not defending the wretched institution, but I have known some
priests who as individuals were fairly decent people, in spite of their
superstition.
Sure, but it all is hypocritical and amorality.
What they preach is Medieval BS, but take them out of the preach mode
and they can discuss, politics, sports, the weather, just as normal
persons.
On the other hand, some can't help but bring their superstition into
everything.
I grew up in a Catholic environment and in high school,
many of my teachers were priests. Some I actually liked.
(Minor historical footnote: One of teachers was one of the Berrigan
brothers of anti-Vietnam war protest fame 10 years later.)
They also
teach that there is an endless list of ways one can go to Hell. Fear
and
denial. Not a normal existence.
What else can be expected from perverts?
Somehow, because they are 'holy' they think that they can weasel out of
punishment
They're aware what they peddle is bronze-age *****.
I'm sure that many are, but the power of self delusion can sometimes be
very strong.
Point, but having eternal torture and forgiveness are diametric
opposites.
The RCC preaches that it is possible to avoid going to Hell if you get
forgiveness, but you have to go to them. They know damn well that you
are human and even if you confess your sins and get forgiven, you'll be
back in a few weeks confessing the same bunch.
Sadly, their cult has far reaching effect on innocent believers
that can't discern fact from doctrine. So people die.
They brainwash people, there is no other term for it, as kids to deny
themselves and fear Hell. They tried to do so with me. Fortunately, as
I
grew up I earned to discern truth from fiction and so I escaped.
Others,
sadly, still cling to the superstition and suffer and die for it.
Their 'life' depends on keeping the terror levels so the intellect is
kept locked out.
True. Guilt and fear rule the believers. That's the way that the Church
likes it.
Ah, profit$.
Blessed be those Holy Profit$.
The dollar, franc, euro, and others be their names.
My dividend check come.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: a.a. Life of John Paul...? |
09 Dec 2005 02:20:51 PM |
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On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 22:05:11 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <japgp11tktc9k2vp166ffjo8o9rrc3mqod@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 22:16:14 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <olp8p1top2fke2nbvf7sjenvq4s3gac2b1@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 22:22:50 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <4kp6p1dps4unj87c4oq5mj1bs8di3pt9ug@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
[]
The RCC is very big on self denial. They must believe that suffering
is
good. Maybe it's supposed bring them closer to their god. One would
think that if they were really serious about chastity, they would
castrate themselves, but then they wouldn't suffer as much.
The psychology of the RCC if a text book example of aberrant
human
behavior.
True. Not only do they deny themselves common human pleasures, but
they
live in constant fear of eternal suffering in the next world.
Disagree. If that was the case they would have been operating
entirely differently for millenia.
There are some who actually try to live as the Church preaches.
Which has nothing to do with what the Babble contains.
Which is why for many years the RCC tried to suppress the bible. They
like to preach about the 'good' Jesus, the one who says "Love thy
neighbor" not the one who comes with a sword. They know how to spin.
... empty threats and empty promises.
They are
fools. There probably many more who give lip service to the above, but
behave very differently. They are hypocrites.
They're all hypocrites and amoral.
I'm not defending the wretched institution, but I have known some
priests who as individuals were fairly decent people, in spite of their
superstition.
Sure, but it all is hypocritical and amorality.
What they preach is Medieval BS, but take them out of the preach mode
and they can discuss, politics, sports, the weather, just as normal
persons.
Just like sane people.
On the other hand, some can't help but bring their superstition into
everything.
That's a big problem, especially when they so casually violate it.
I grew up in a Catholic environment and in high school,
many of my teachers were priests. Some I actually liked.
(Minor historical footnote: One of teachers was one of the Berrigan
brothers of anti-Vietnam war protest fame 10 years later.)
They also
teach that there is an endless list of ways one can go to Hell. Fear
and
denial. Not a normal existence.
What else can be expected from perverts?
Somehow, because they are 'holy' they think that they can weasel out of
punishment
They're aware what they peddle is bronze-age *****.
I'm sure that many are, but the power of self delusion can sometimes be
very strong.
Point, but having eternal torture and forgiveness are diametric
opposites.
The RCC preaches that it is possible to avoid going to Hell if you get
forgiveness, but you have to go to them. They know damn well that you
are human and even if you confess your sins and get forgiven, you'll be
back in a few weeks confessing the same bunch.
Of course they do.
Sadly, their cult has far reaching effect on innocent believers
that can't discern fact from doctrine. So people die.
They brainwash people, there is no other term for it, as kids to deny
themselves and fear Hell. They tried to do so with me. Fortunately, as
I
grew up I earned to discern truth from fiction and so I escaped.
Others,
sadly, still cling to the superstition and suffer and die for it.
Their 'life' depends on keeping the terror levels so the intellect is
kept locked out.
True. Guilt and fear rule the believers. That's the way that the Church
likes it.
Ah, profit$.
Blessed be those Holy Profit$.
The dollar, franc, euro, and others be their names.
My dividend check come.
Protection Money Prophet$.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: a.a. Life of John Paul...? |
10 Dec 2005 01:25:06 AM |
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In article <fmpjp1tq4notlosqm9jn61t67689k7hc4r@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 22:05:11 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <japgp11tktc9k2vp166ffjo8o9rrc3mqod@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 22:16:14 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <olp8p1top2fke2nbvf7sjenvq4s3gac2b1@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 22:22:50 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <4kp6p1dps4unj87c4oq5mj1bs8di3pt9ug@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
[]
The RCC is very big on self denial. They must believe that
suffering
is
good. Maybe it's supposed bring them closer to their god. One would
think that if they were really serious about chastity, they would
castrate themselves, but then they wouldn't suffer as much.
The psychology of the RCC if a text book example of aberrant
human
behavior.
True. Not only do they deny themselves common human pleasures, but
they
live in constant fear of eternal suffering in the next world.
Disagree. If that was the case they would have been operating
entirely differently for millenia.
There are some who actually try to live as the Church preaches.
Which has nothing to do with what the Babble contains.
Which is why for many years the RCC tried to suppress the bible. They
like to preach about the 'good' Jesus, the one who says "Love thy
neighbor" not the one who comes with a sword. They know how to spin.
... empty threats and empty promises.
They are
fools. There probably many more who give lip service to the above, but
behave very differently. They are hypocrites.
They're all hypocrites and amoral.
I'm not defending the wretched institution, but I have known some
priests who as individuals were fairly decent people, in spite of their
superstition.
Sure, but it all is hypocritical and amorality.
What they preach is Medieval BS, but take them out of the preach mode
and they can discuss, politics, sports, the weather, just as normal
persons.
Just like sane people.
On the other hand, some can't help but bring their superstition into
everything.
That's a big problem, especially when they so casually violate it.
Apparently what they preach applies only to others.
I grew up in a Catholic environment and in high school,
many of my teachers were priests. Some I actually liked.
(Minor historical footnote: One of teachers was one of the Berrigan
brothers of anti-Vietnam war protest fame 10 years later.)
They also
teach that there is an endless list of ways one can go to Hell.
Fear
and
denial. Not a normal existence.
What else can be expected from perverts?
Somehow, because they are 'holy' they think that they can weasel out
of
punishment
They're aware what they peddle is bronze-age *****.
I'm sure that many are, but the power of self delusion can sometimes be
very strong.
Point, but having eternal torture and forgiveness are diametric
opposites.
The RCC preaches that it is possible to avoid going to Hell if you get
forgiveness, but you have to go to them. They know damn well that you
are human and even if you confess your sins and get forgiven, you'll be
back in a few weeks confessing the same bunch.
Of course they do.
Yep.
Sadly, their cult has far reaching effect on innocent
believers
that can't discern fact from doctrine. So people die.
They brainwash people, there is no other term for it, as kids to
deny
themselves and fear Hell. They tried to do so with me. Fortunately,
as
I
grew up I earned to discern truth from fiction and so I escaped.
Others,
sadly, still cling to the superstition and suffer and die for it.
Their 'life' depends on keeping the terror levels so the intellect
is
kept locked out.
True. Guilt and fear rule the believers. That's the way that the
Church
likes it.
Ah, profit$.
Blessed be those Holy Profit$.
The dollar, franc, euro, and others be their names.
My dividend check come.
Protection Money Prophet$.
Extraordinary Extortionist Prophet$.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: a.a. Life of John Paul...? |
10 Dec 2005 09:29:57 AM |
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On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 23:25:06 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <fmpjp1tq4notlosqm9jn61t67689k7hc4r@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 22:05:11 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
[]
What they preach is Medieval BS, but take them out of the preach mode
and they can discuss, politics, sports, the weather, just as normal
persons.
Just like sane people.
On the other hand, some can't help but bring their superstition into
everything.
That's a big problem, especially when they so casually violate it.
Apparently what they preach applies only to others.
Well, they *are* following the Jesus character's example.
[]
The RCC preaches that it is possible to avoid going to Hell if you get
forgiveness, but you have to go to them. They know damn well that you
are human and even if you confess your sins and get forgiven, you'll be
back in a few weeks confessing the same bunch.
Of course they do.
Yep.
It's a good portion of their prophet margin$ and a running indicator
of depth of control.
Sadly, their cult has far reaching effect on innocent
believers
that can't discern fact from doctrine. So people die.
They brainwash people, there is no other term for it, as kids to
deny
themselves and fear Hell. They tried to do so with me. Fortunately,
as
I
grew up I earned to discern truth from fiction and so I escaped.
Others,
sadly, still cling to the superstition and suffer and die for it.
Their 'life' depends on keeping the terror levels so the intellect
is
kept locked out.
True. Guilt and fear rule the believers. That's the way that the
Church
likes it.
Ah, profit$.
Blessed be those Holy Profit$.
The dollar, franc, euro, and others be their names.
My dividend check come.
Protection Money Prophet$.
Extraordinary Extortionist Prophet$.
Graft is Good®.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: a.a. Life of John Paul...? |
11 Dec 2005 01:33:44 AM |
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In article <3vslp1p0ustqik1u1d25onfne2jebt3jmq@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 23:25:06 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <fmpjp1tq4notlosqm9jn61t67689k7hc4r@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 22:05:11 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
[]
What they preach is Medieval BS, but take them out of the preach mode
and they can discuss, politics, sports, the weather, just as normal
persons.
Just like sane people.
On the other hand, some can't help but bring their superstition into
everything.
That's a big problem, especially when they so casually violate it.
Apparently what they preach applies only to others.
Well, they *are* following the Jesus character's example.
I don't recall who said it, but someone claimed that morality is how the
righteous person feels everyone else should act.
[]
The RCC preaches that it is possible to avoid going to Hell if you get
forgiveness, but you have to go to them. They know damn well that you
are human and even if you confess your sins and get forgiven, you'll be
back in a few weeks confessing the same bunch.
Of course they do.
Yep.
It's a good portion of their prophet margin$ and a running indicator
of depth of control.
Sort of like the relation between the pusher and the addict.
Sadly, their cult has far reaching effect on innocent
believers
that can't discern fact from doctrine. So people die.
They brainwash people, there is no other term for it, as kids to
deny
themselves and fear Hell. They tried to do so with me.
Fortunately,
as
I
grew up I earned to discern truth from fiction and so I escaped.
Others,
sadly, still cling to the superstition and suffer and die for
it.
Their 'life' depends on keeping the terror levels so the
intellect
is
kept locked out.
True. Guilt and fear rule the believers. That's the way that the
Church
likes it.
Ah, profit$.
Blessed be those Holy Profit$.
The dollar, franc, euro, and others be their names.
My dividend check come.
Protection Money Prophet$.
Extraordinary Extortionist Prophet$.
Graft is Good®.
Jesus loves a positive cash flow.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: a.a. Life of John Paul...? |
11 Dec 2005 05:47:05 PM |
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On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 23:33:44 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <3vslp1p0ustqik1u1d25onfne2jebt3jmq@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 23:25:06 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <fmpjp1tq4notlosqm9jn61t67689k7hc4r@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 22:05:11 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
[]
What they preach is Medieval BS, but take them out of the preach mode
and they can discuss, politics, sports, the weather, just as normal
persons.
Just like sane people.
On the other hand, some can't help but bring their superstition into
everything.
That's a big problem, especially when they so casually violate it.
Apparently what they preach applies only to others.
Well, they *are* following the Jesus character's example.
I don't recall who said it, but someone claimed that morality is how the
righteous person feels everyone else should act.
That's amorality.
The RCC preaches that it is possible to avoid going to Hell if you get
forgiveness, but you have to go to them. They know damn well that you
are human and even if you confess your sins and get forgiven, you'll be
back in a few weeks confessing the same bunch.
Of course they do.
Yep.
It's a good portion of their prophet margin$ and a running indicator
of depth of control.
Sort of like the relation between the pusher and the addict.
No 'sort of.'
Sadly, their cult has far reaching effect on innocent
believers
that can't discern fact from doctrine. So people die.
They brainwash people, there is no other term for it, as kids to
deny
themselves and fear Hell. They tried to do so with me.
Fortunately,
as
I
grew up I earned to discern truth from fiction and so I escaped.
Others,
sadly, still cling to the superstition and suffer and die for
it.
Their 'life' depends on keeping the terror levels so the
intellect
is
kept locked out.
True. Guilt and fear rule the believers. That's the way that the
Church
likes it.
Ah, profit$.
Blessed be those Holy Profit$.
The dollar, franc, euro, and others be their names.
My dividend check come.
Protection Money Prophet$.
Extraordinary Extortionist Prophet$.
Graft is Good®.
Jesus loves a positive cash flow.
Only when it's inbound to him.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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11 Dec 2005 11:12:04 PM |
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In article <5iepp1d82mst3at4j671op57u94qkq6rrs@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 23:33:44 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <3vslp1p0ustqik1u1d25onfne2jebt3jmq@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 23:25:06 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <fmpjp1tq4notlosqm9jn61t67689k7hc4r@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 22:05:11 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
[]
What they preach is Medieval BS, but take them out of the preach mode
and they can discuss, politics, sports, the weather, just as normal
persons.
Just like sane people.
On the other hand, some can't help but bring their superstition into
everything.
That's a big problem, especially when they so casually violate it.
Apparently what they preach applies only to others.
Well, they *are* following the Jesus character's example.
I don't recall who said it, but someone claimed that morality is how the
righteous person feels everyone else should act.
That's amorality.
That's irrelevant to them as long as everybody else is 'moral' by their
standards for everybody else.
The RCC preaches that it is possible to avoid going to Hell if you get
forgiveness, but you have to go to them. They know damn well that you
are human and even if you confess your sins and get forgiven, you'll
be
back in a few weeks confessing the same bunch.
Of course they do.
Yep.
It's a good portion of their prophet margin$ and a running indicator
of depth of control.
Sort of like the relation between the pusher and the addict.
No 'sort of.'
Point.
Sadly, their cult has far reaching effect on innocent
believers
that can't discern fact from doctrine. So people die.
They brainwash people, there is no other term for it, as kids
to
deny
themselves and fear Hell. They tried to do so with me.
Fortunately,
as
I
grew up I earned to discern truth from fiction and so I
escaped.
Others,
sadly, still cling to the superstition and suffer and die for
it.
Their 'life' depends on keeping the terror levels so the
intellect
is
kept locked out.
True. Guilt and fear rule the believers. That's the way that the
Church
likes it.
Ah, profit$.
Blessed be those Holy Profit$.
The dollar, franc, euro, and others be their names.
My dividend check come.
Protection Money Prophet$.
Extraordinary Extortionist Prophet$.
Graft is Good®.
Jesus loves a positive cash flow.
Only when it's inbound to him.
Otherwise it's greed.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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12 Dec 2005 10:14:35 AM |
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On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:12:04 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <5iepp1d82mst3at4j671op57u94qkq6rrs@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 23:33:44 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <3vslp1p0ustqik1u1d25onfne2jebt3jmq@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 23:25:06 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <fmpjp1tq4notlosqm9jn61t67689k7hc4r@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 22:05:11 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
[]
What they preach is Medieval BS, but take them out of the preach mode
and they can discuss, politics, sports, the weather, just as normal
persons.
Just like sane people.
On the other hand, some can't help but bring their superstition into
everything.
That's a big problem, especially when they so casually violate it.
Apparently what they preach applies only to others.
Well, they *are* following the Jesus character's example.
I don't recall who said it, but someone claimed that morality is how the
righteous person feels everyone else should act.
That's amorality.
That's irrelevant to them as long as everybody else is 'moral' by their
standards for everybody else.
The 'Great God Hypocrisy®'.
The RCC preaches that it is possible to avoid going to Hell if you get
forgiveness, but you have to go to them. They know damn well that you
are human and even if you confess your sins and get forgiven, you'll
be
back in a few weeks confessing the same bunch.
Of course they do.
Yep.
It's a good portion of their prophet margin$ and a running indicator
of depth of control.
Sort of like the relation between the pusher and the addict.
No 'sort of.'
Point.
Sadly, their cult has far reaching effect on innocent
believers
that can't discern fact from doctrine. So people die.
They brainwash people, there is no other term for it, as kids
to
deny
themselves and fear Hell. They tried to do so with me.
Fortunately,
as
I
grew up I earned to discern truth from fiction and so I
escaped.
Others,
sadly, still cling to the superstition and suffer and die for
it.
Their 'life' depends on keeping the terror levels so the
intellect
is
kept locked out.
True. Guilt and fear rule the believers. That's the way that the
Church
likes it.
Ah, profit$.
Blessed be those Holy Profit$.
The dollar, franc, euro, and others be their names.
My dividend check come.
Protection Money Prophet$.
Extraordinary Extortionist Prophet$.
Graft is Good®.
Jesus loves a positive cash flow.
Only when it's inbound to him.
Otherwise it's greed.
And since Da Shrub® is 'God.'
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Steve Knight" |
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04 Dec 2005 08:22:38 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 23:46:07 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
snippage
In article <tvm4p1pcom5gaf7285k9t4mcv0hmlk1f0q@4ax.com>,
Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net> wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 23:06:16 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
I think it's the natural consequences of abnormal behavior
instigated by superstitious demands, denying the natural animal
instinct to reproduce or have sex.
The RCC is very big on self denial. They must believe that suffering is
good. Maybe it's supposed bring them closer to their god. One would
think that if they were really serious about chastity, they would
castrate themselves, but then they wouldn't suffer as much.
Suffering is an integrate part of their belief. I can point at the
Flagellants as a case in point or Mother T denying pain killers to her
followers but the true horror is not keeping pace with human
advancement. Particularly on social issues.. Homosexuals are a fact of
society, as are atheists.
The RCC bleats the tired crap about atheists as they have always
done but the homosexual is officially singled out because of church
abuse. In their world, a child is born, becomes brainwashed by them
and through no fault is homosexual. Suddenly, without a thought, he is
tossed into the wind unless he acts the 'way' he's told.
The depth of their hypocrisies is beyond me. I have a confusion
trying to understand why they do this to innocent people.
I'm at a loss trying to explain.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: a.a. Life of John Paul...? |
05 Dec 2005 12:17:02 AM |
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In article <m087p1t62q46o6mjlcel55h0qms1g0d321@4ax.com>,
Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 23:46:07 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
snippage
In article <tvm4p1pcom5gaf7285k9t4mcv0hmlk1f0q@4ax.com>,
Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net> wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 23:06:16 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
I think it's the natural consequences of abnormal behavior
instigated by superstitious demands, denying the natural animal
instinct to reproduce or have sex.
The RCC is very big on self denial. They must believe that suffering is
good. Maybe it's supposed bring them closer to their god. One would
think that if they were really serious about chastity, they would
castrate themselves, but then they wouldn't suffer as much.
Suffering is an integrate part of their belief. I can point at the
Flagellants as a case in point or Mother T denying pain killers to her
followers but the true horror is not keeping pace with human
advancement. Particularly on social issues.. Homosexuals are a fact of
society, as are atheists.
I read a recent article about how Opus Dei members tie what amounts to a
strand of barbed wire around one of their thighs and wear it four hours
to 'mortify the flesh'. They sometimes wear horsehair shirts under their
regular clothes for the same reason. It is irrational to seek out pain
for no reason.
There is growing evidence that homosexuality has a biological basis. The
Church refuses to accept that. They try to convince gays that their
orientation is a 'choice' and therefore they are sinners. The RCC is
also very much into guilt.
The RCC bleats the tired crap about atheists as they have always
done but the homosexual is officially singled out because of church
abuse. In their world, a child is born, becomes brainwashed by them
and through no fault is homosexual. Suddenly, without a thought, he is
tossed into the wind unless he acts the 'way' he's told.
The Church must hate atheists because it can't control us. They can't
reach us with their guilt trips. If a gay is a believer, the church has
a hold on him/her since they are 'sinners' their only hope of
'salvation' is through the church and it's sacraments. They have to
keep coming back. The relationship is not unlike that of a drug dealer
and an addict. 'Salvation' is the drug, and the guilty 'sinners' must
come back for their 'fix'.
Homosexuals were always in the church. All of the current hullabaloo is
only because some were exposed as pedophiles. Just as politicians do
when one of them is caught with there hand in the till, they pass reform
laws. Very often these are an overreaction. They same with the church.
Probably many more innocent priests who happen to also be gay will
suffer than the actual pedophiles who will hide their transgressions
The depth of their hypocrisies is beyond me. I have a confusion
trying to understand why they do this to innocent people.
They've been doing it for 2000 yrs. Again it's a matter of control.
I'm at a loss trying to explain.
There is no rational explanation.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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05 Dec 2005 10:13:40 AM |
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On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 18:22:38 -0800, Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net>
wrote:
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 23:46:07 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
snippage
In article <tvm4p1pcom5gaf7285k9t4mcv0hmlk1f0q@4ax.com>,
Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net> wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 23:06:16 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
I think it's the natural consequences of abnormal behavior
instigated by superstitious demands, denying the natural animal
instinct to reproduce or have sex.
The RCC is very big on self denial. They must believe that suffering is
good. Maybe it's supposed bring them closer to their god. One would
think that if they were really serious about chastity, they would
castrate themselves, but then they wouldn't suffer as much.
Suffering is an integrate part of their belief. I can point at the
Flagellants as a case in point or Mother T denying pain killers to her
followers but the true horror is not keeping pace with human
advancement. Particularly on social issues.. Homosexuals are a fact of
society, as are atheists.
The RCC bleats the tired crap about atheists as they have always
done but the homosexual is officially singled out because of church
abuse. In their world, a child is born, becomes brainwashed by them
and through no fault is homosexual. Suddenly, without a thought, he is
tossed into the wind unless he acts the 'way' he's told.
The depth of their hypocrisies is beyond me. I have a confusion
trying to understand why they do this to innocent people.
Because they can.
[]
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: a.a. Life of John Paul...? |
04 Dec 2005 05:02:54 PM |
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On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 17:57:35 -0800, Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net>
wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 21:44:19 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 22:37:52 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:
In article <h0kvo1pgr606q4d21gj5l9lsnpsskvkutc@4ax.com>,
Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net> wrote:
I'm channel flipping and what do I see... A fucking special about
John Paul! The Poke of Superstition!
Excuse me! I'm not in the mood for national air time for some
murdering ***** being praised by made up subjectivity foisted by the
scum that gave us Mother Theresa and all the other ilk of ground
stains, mirror images and shadows on dog ***** to denote a superior
being that can do anything except prove itself.
I would hope that they would at least mention all of the people who died
of AIDS because of his church's idiotic aversions to condoms.
They could equally claim that these people would not have even had the
chance to be born, if not for their self-serving general ban on
contraceptives.
That's delving into the realm of 'would be'. Not that the
superstitious are above any moral repugnancy. They consider life at
inception, a blob of replicating meat with rights, a human being but
have no problem letting people die from debilitating diseases because
of stupid sex 'laws'.
Don't forget seeking to enslave the ladies and render them back to the
level of brood mares.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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04 Dec 2005 08:09:22 AM |
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On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 17:57:35 -0800, Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net> wrote:
That's delving into the realm of 'would be'. Not that the
superstitious are above any moral repugnancy. They consider life at
inception, a blob of replicating meat with rights, a human being but
have no problem letting people die from debilitating diseases because
of stupid sex 'laws'.
Suppose your parents had aborted you.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| Title: Re: a.a. Life of John Paul...? |
04 Dec 2005 05:19:59 PM |
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On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 08:09:22 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 17:57:35 -0800, Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net> wrote:
That's delving into the realm of 'would be'. Not that the
superstitious are above any moral repugnancy. They consider life at
inception, a blob of replicating me | | | | | |
