LisaKay2054@hotmail.com (LisaKay) wrote:

Maybe I'm over-reacting here, but I'm pissed about this. Please give
me your feedback. What would you do in my shoes?

Yesterday while leaving work (at a public HS), I noticed small flyers
on the walls of the school advertising for "See you at the Pole". I
have seen many various student organizations advertising upcoming
events in that manner and I rolled my eyes, but it didn't really
bother me. Then I saw a professionally made banner (about 3X5 feet)
and quoting some biblical passages and the SYATP's theme for this
year, "consumed" in big firey letters. Seems a bit scary and pushy at
the same time, but I guess it's OK for the school to allow this type
of advertising if it comes from students. As I left the building, I
saw that the digital sign, which only announces sporting events and
parent night, had an advertisement for SYATP.

I didn't pay attention this morning to see if the event took place and
what success it had.

Write the school superintendent (not the principal) and complain that
religious non-school events don't belong on the marquee. Chances are
good that the principal (or whoever's in charge of the marquee) put up
the message without any authorization or thought that it's verboten.
Chances are good there'll be a policy statement at the next school board
meeting regarding it.

---
John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com

In article <1dbe2aec.0309171453.433b9f21@posting.google.com>,
LisaKay2054@hotmail.com (LisaKay) wrote:

Maybe I'm over-reacting here, but I'm pissed about this. Please give
me your feedback. What would you do in my shoes?

Yesterday while leaving work (at a public HS), I noticed small flyers
on the walls of the school advertising for "See you at the Pole". I
have seen many various student organizations advertising upcoming
events in that manner and I rolled my eyes, but it didn't really
bother me. Then I saw a professionally made banner (about 3X5 feet)
and quoting some biblical passages and the SYATP's theme for this
year, "consumed" in big firey letters. Seems a bit scary and pushy at
the same time, but I guess it's OK for the school to allow this type
of advertising if it comes from students. As I left the building, I
saw that the digital sign, which only announces sporting events and
parent night, had an advertisement for SYATP.

The courts have ruled that SYATP is legal as long as the school is not
organizing it, it is done out of normal school time, and no coercion
is involved. I don't know about the banner. If the students paid for
it, and if the school would allow a similar banner from say a Muslim
group, a Satan worshippers meeting, or an atheists' club, I suppose
that it would be legal too. However, using the sign, school property,
to advertise the prayer meeting would probably not be.

I didn't pay attention this morning to see if the event took place and
what success it had.

Anyway, today in school, during the middle of a class, someone (I
assume a student) came on the PA and announced that it was "Pledge
aross America" day and asked us to all rise and say the pladge. This
was not announced to the teachers beforehand (which is not unusual at
our school), but I thought it was rather weird.

It seems silly to me that the school would allow students to interrupt
class without a very compelling reason. How did the kid get on the PA
system? Did not someone have to give permission? That person would
have some explaining to do.

So I got home today and looked up the "Pledge across America" website
and the first thing that came up was that today is CONSTITUTION DAY!
An organization was asking schools to recite the preable along with
the president in a teleconference type thing. The pledge across
america was on the same day.

It wasn't publicized at all in San Diego where I live. Maybe the
Constitution and the Bill of Rights are old news?

My questions...
Is there any reason that SYATP and pledge across America are on the
same day?
Why is my school participating in pledge across America and not in
constitution day?

There's no *GAWD* in the Constitution.

Am I being too sensitive here?

No.

In article <1dbe2aec.0309171453.433b9f21@posting.google.com>,
LisaKay2054@hotmail.com says...

Maybe I'm over-reacting here, but I'm pissed about this. Please give
me your feedback. What would you do in my shoes?

Yesterday while leaving work (at a public HS), I noticed small flyers
on the walls of the school advertising for "See you at the Pole".

Whoa, they're trying to recruit strippers a bit young, eh?

I
have seen many various student organizations advertising upcoming
events in that manner and I rolled my eyes, but it didn't really
bother me. Then I saw a professionally made banner (about 3X5 feet)
and quoting some biblical passages and the SYATP's theme for this
year, "consumed" in big firey letters.

It definitely has elements that the Nazis would have liked. They were
fascinated with meeting around bonfires and such.

Seems a bit scary and pushy at
the same time,

A bit? More like a whole damn lot, if ya ask me.

but I guess it's OK for the school to allow this type
of advertising if it comes from students. As I left the building, I
saw that the digital sign, which only announces sporting events and
parent night, had an advertisement for SYATP.

That sounds special treatment for religious causes and probably isn't
legal.

I didn't pay attention this morning to see if the event took place and
what success it had.

Anyway, today in school, during the middle of a class, someone (I
assume a student) came on the PA and announced that it was "Pledge
aross America" day and asked us to all rise and say the pladge. This
was not announced to the teachers beforehand (which is not unusual at
our school), but I thought it was rather weird.

Of course. It wouldn't do to have it before or after school. That
wouldn't be "in your face" enough for these folks.

So I got home today and looked up the "Pledge across America" website
and the first thing that came up was that today is CONSTITUTION DAY!
An organization was asking schools to recite the preable along with
the president in a teleconference type thing. The pledge across
america was on the same day.

What is the point of this nonsense anyway? Some people are so into
meaningless ritual. Anyway, I bet more kids have toked up at 4:20
voluntarily than have said the pledge in these stupid, mass rituals.

My questions...
Is there any reason that SYATP and pledge across America are on the
same day?

I don't think that reason has much to do with it.

Why is my school participating in pledge across America and not in
constitution day?
Am I being too sensitive here?

I don't think so. Patriotism taken to excess creates nationalism.
Certainly the history of the last century or two has shown us that
nationalism can be disastrous. The fact that they're quoting bible
verses and getting special favors does not bode well either.


--
_____________________________________________________
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins

LisaKay (LisaKay2054@hotmail.com) wrote:
: Yesterday while leaving work (at a public HS), I noticed small flyers on
: the walls of the school advertising for "See you at the Pole". I have
: seen many various student organizations advertising upcoming events in
: that manner and I rolled my eyes, but it didn't really bother me.

Its an organized effort to violate Matthew 6:5-6. This passage, in Jesus'
(alleged) own words, forbids public prayers that could be seen as
showing-off, and commands followers to pray in private.

But its only Jesus, what the hell does he know, eh?

LisaKay wrote:

So I got home today and looked up the "Pledge across America" website
and the first thing that came up was that today is CONSTITUTION DAY!
An organization was asking schools to recite the preable along with
the president in a teleconference type thing. The pledge across
america was on the same day.

My questions...
Is there any reason that SYATP and pledge across America are on the
same day?
Why is my school participating in pledge across America and not in
constitution day?
Am I being too sensitive here?

what the?????

the kids mentioned that class was interrupted for the pledge in the
middle of the day...but they never said what it was about.