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ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS |
ABORTION, and WHEN Human Life BEGINS
The debate about the abortion issue really boils down to
a question of WHEN human life begins. Many "pro-lifers" are
fundamentalist Christians but are unable to quote any clear
statements from their Bible indicating that human life begins
at conception. [And most of them, especially the Catholics,
are also against artificial birth control, which would
PREVENT the unwanted pregnancies to begin with! ] They are
apparently either ignorant of, or ignoring, GENESIS 2:7 KJV,
which states: "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the
ground, and breathed into his nostrils the BREATH OF LIFE,
and man became a living Soul.".
This Biblical statement indicates that human life begins
(Soul enters its new body) WHEN THE BODY TAKES ITS FIRST
BREATH OF AIR OUT-side THE WOMB. Therefore, if an aborted
fetus's lungs are too undeveloped to breathe, or if an older
fetus is biologically terminated IN-side the womb, then that
abortion can NOT be called "murder", because NO Soul was
present in the fetus.
A fetus is like a laptop computer with a working battery
but NO-one to operate it.
Another thing to consider is that each of us is
surrounded by a protective energy field usually called an
"AURA", as described in MANY books related to psychic
phenomena. A few people, including psychic futurist Gordon-
Michael Scallion, and the late "Sleeping Prophet" Edgar
Cayce, can actually SEE colored AURAs around people. The
Canadian scientist Frances Nixon developed a way to locate
the boundaries of a person's AURA.
One of the AURA's main purposes is to shield out
discarnate entities from a person's body. If an AURA becomes
weak, because of illness, injury, mind-altering drugs,
alcohol, etc., discarnate entities can sometimes invade and
cause insanity, possession, multiple personalities, etc..
THE AURA OF A HEALTHY PREGNANT WOMAN WOULD LIKEWISE
PREVENT A SOUL FROM ENTERING THE FETUS INSIDE HER.
A Soul that is seeking to REincarnate into this world
KNOWS if Its intended fetus is likely to be aborted before
birth or terminated immediately after birth, and will simply
STAY OUT OF IT.
The purpose of laws in a free country like the United
States should be to protect INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM, and prevent
it from being violated by others, NOT to stifle it in the
name of power, control, exploitation, ORTHODOX RELIGION, or
the money-god. Any man-made law which fails that test is
automatically and immediately UN-Constitutional, null and
void.
The INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM of a pregnant woman to control
her own body must likewise be protected.
If the "pro-lifers" would show as much concern for ALL
People AFTER birth as they do for fetus's before birth, the
world could rapidly become a decent place to live in.
Robert E. McElwaine
Eckankar Initiate
http://members.aol.com/rem547 PLUS
http://members.aol.com/rem460
Preserve BOTH on CD-R and PRINT-OUTS
P.S.: LIKE THE TALIBAN, fundamentalist Christians want to
create and MIS-use man-made laws to IMPOSE their self-
righteous religious values against the rest of us.
P.S.2: PASS IT ON !
"EVERYTHING you know is WRONG."
"The Truth IS stranger than fiction."
"The Truth is ALWAYS the FIRST CASUALTY OF WAR."
"OFFICIAL LIES are ALWAYS the BIGGEST LIES OF ALL."
"The more things change, the more they STAY THE SAME."
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| User: "Ricky Ticket" |
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| Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS |
22 Apr 2005 01:03:37 AM |
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On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 1:50:51 -0400, osprey wrote
(in message <1114149051.265144.93150@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>):
Do you have any evidence of that?
Yes, and so does your supervision. :o)
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"David Barnes hatred towards correctional officers is obvious, he served
time, I have copies of his record and his time served. He was a problem
inmate as well, and was unable to complete his program. So his hatred,
I can see where it is coming from. It sounds, although I can't prove
it, Ricky may have the same reasons."
<END EVIDENCE>
See how easy Bob-o?
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS |
22 Apr 2005 08:12:11 AM |
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"Ricky Ticket" <not@given.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 1:50:51 -0400, osprey wrote
(in message <1114149051.265144.93150@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>):
Do you have any evidence of that?
Yes, and so does your supervision. :o)
What's my supervisors name?
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"David Barnes hatred towards correctional officers is obvious, he served
time, I have copies of his record and his time served. He was a problem
inmate as well, and was unable to complete his program. So his hatred,
I can see where it is coming from. It sounds, although I can't prove
it, Ricky may have the same reasons."
<END EVIDENCE>
See how easy Bob-o?
Uh huh...hope you like mud on your face..:o)
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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22 Apr 2005 10:14:50 AM |
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In article <oMqdnfJNGJLiavXfRVn-jw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ricky Ticket" <not@given.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.BE8E0C220004128C1E9580B0@news.east.earthlink.net...
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 1:50:51 -0400, osprey wrote
(in message <1114149051.265144.93150@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>):
Do you have any evidence of that?
Yes, and so does your supervision. :o)
What's my supervisors name?
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"David Barnes hatred towards correctional officers is obvious, he served
time, I have copies of his record and his time served. He was a problem
inmate as well, and was unable to complete his program. So his hatred,
I can see where it is coming from. It sounds, although I can't prove
it, Ricky may have the same reasons."
<END EVIDENCE>
See how easy Bob-o?
Uh huh...hope you like mud on your face..:o)
The face - more nervous energy.
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22 Apr 2005 01:04:42 AM |
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In article <0001HW.BE8E0C220004128C1E9580B0@news.east.earthlink.net>,
Ricky Ticket <not@given.com> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 1:50:51 -0400, osprey wrote
(in message <1114149051.265144.93150@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>):
Do you have any evidence of that?
Yes, and so does your supervision. :o)
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<BEGIN EVIDENCE>
"David Barnes hatred towards correctional officers is obvious, he served
time, I have copies of his record and his time served. He was a problem
inmate as well, and was unable to complete his program. So his hatred,
I can see where it is coming from. It sounds, although I can't prove
it, Ricky may have the same reasons."
<END EVIDENCE>
See how easy Bob-o?
I do it to him all the time. He just claims it isn't true, lies,
denies, etc.
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| User: "AntiSocial" |
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| Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS |
18 Apr 2005 01:30:22 AM |
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osprey wrote:
AntiSocial wrote:
Patrick Lee Humphrey wrote:
AntiSocial <pessimistdepressionist@yahoo.com> writes:
osprey wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
.
Check laws involving human beings and see if they cover a
fetus
without being written specifically to cover a fetus.
That's why people go to jail for killing a fetus..explain that
ROFL!!!! The guard doesnąt understand the law.
This guard knows more about law than the fictional lawyer knows
any day.
Your knowledge of the law is pathetic
You are just ***** because I have become educated and
learning
more about law and you can't counter. Go back to bed moron.
Am I the only one who finds "You are just ***** because I have
become
educated and learning more about law and you can't counter" very
indictive of
someone's mental abilities?
Not at all, but that's just Robert "Osprey" Heishman's standard
routine.
Check truetoblue.org to see how amazingly proficient he is in
English.
I try to steer clear of COs due to the fun things I've learned about
them.
And what would that be?
And be careful, yes there are bad CO's, there are also very good
professional CO's.
I'm referring to those in Cali that have been placed on trial for
forming gangs, prisoner abuse, and death threats on those who broke the
"code of silence" Given that three prisons within my area are either
going to court or being investigated for such behavior, I'm a bit leery.
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS |
18 Apr 2005 01:52:24 AM |
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AntiSocial wrote:
osprey wrote:
AntiSocial wrote:
Patrick Lee Humphrey wrote:
AntiSocial <pessimistdepressionist@yahoo.com> writes:
osprey wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
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Check laws involving human beings and see if they cover a
fetus
without being written specifically to cover a fetus.
That's why people go to jail for killing a fetus..explain
that
ROFL!!!! The guard doesn=B9t understand the law.
This guard knows more about law than the fictional lawyer
knows
any day.
Your knowledge of the law is pathetic
You are just ***** because I have become educated and
learning
more about law and you can't counter. Go back to bed moron.
Am I the only one who finds "You are just ***** because I
have
become
educated and learning more about law and you can't counter" very
indictive of
someone's mental abilities?
Not at all, but that's just Robert "Osprey" Heishman's standard
routine.
Check truetoblue.org to see how amazingly proficient he is in
English.
I try to steer clear of COs due to the fun things I've learned
about
them.
And what would that be?
And be careful, yes there are bad CO's, there are also very good
professional CO's.
I'm referring to those in Cali that have been placed on trial for
forming gangs, prisoner abuse, and death threats on those who broke
the
"code of silence" Given that three prisons within my area are either
going to court or being investigated for such behavior, I'm a bit
leery.
Well, we can look at all types of organizations and find bad apples,
but does that mean you throw out the whole bunch? I can give you many
examples of abuse by police, dishonest lawyers, doctors that have gone
bad, and so forth. Do we no longer trust the police? Do we no longer
trust lawyers? Do we no longer go to the doctor?
Of course not.
I for one detest any Correctional Officer who abuses his or her power.
We are placed in the prisons with the trust of the public.
A prison serves four functions.
a) Incarceration
b) Retribution
c) Rehabilitation
d) Deterrence (there are two types of deterrence - specific and
general)
A Correctional Officer has four roles
a) Security (always first)
b) Team Member
c) Manager of Inmates
d) Role Model
If the stories of the Correctional Officers you are talking about is
true, they deserve what ever happens to them. However; I can tell you
a great deal of the time such stories are fabricated usually due to an
inmate wanting retaliation and often times the cases are thrown out due
to lack of evidence.
There is a different world, in the world of the Correctional Officer.
There is also a Code of Ethics. I am not going to get into it, but all
I will say is don't judge based on the actions of a few. Most of your
Correctional Officers are doing the best job they can. I know the
prisons in California are some of the hardest ones to work in.
Especially Pelican Bay, notorious for gang problems. I know of many
Correctional Officers who are hurt on the job, hassled by the inmates,
taunted, and so forth. It's a job most can't do nor want to do for
obvious reasons. It takes a unique person to be able to do the job and
stay with it. Most don't last their first six months. I have been
doing this for more than six years. I have a brother who started as a
Correctional Officer in Washington, he has more than twenty years now
and is a Captain. He has suffered two broken noses, a stabbing attempt,
had urine thrown on him as well as fecese and blood. The threat of
disease is always high as well. But he is a calm person, able to
handle high stress and think quickly. The difference between a good
officer and one who can't handle it, is one who knows how to react,
when to react, and when to just let things go.
So don't judge to harshly, let the system deal with those who may have
gone wrong. Believe me when I say this, most Correctional Officers
want the bad ones out far more than the public does. Same as with
almost any career where one may have to rely on another. They want the
bad one's out.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS |
18 Apr 2005 09:56:35 AM |
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In article <1113807144.303811.317720@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
AntiSocial wrote:
osprey wrote:
AntiSocial wrote:
Patrick Lee Humphrey wrote:
AntiSocial <pessimistdepressionist@yahoo.com> writes:
osprey wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
.
Check laws involving human beings and see if they cover a
fetus
without being written specifically to cover a fetus.
That's why people go to jail for killing a fetus..explain
that
ROFL!!!! The guard doesnąt understand the law.
This guard knows more about law than the fictional lawyer
knows
any day.
Your knowledge of the law is pathetic
You are just ***** because I have become educated and
learning
more about law and you can't counter. Go back to bed moron.
Am I the only one who finds "You are just ***** because I
have
become
educated and learning more about law and you can't counter" very
indictive of
someone's mental abilities?
Not at all, but that's just Robert "Osprey" Heishman's standard
routine.
Check truetoblue.org to see how amazingly proficient he is in
English.
I try to steer clear of COs due to the fun things I've learned
about
them.
And what would that be?
And be careful, yes there are bad CO's, there are also very good
professional CO's.
I'm referring to those in Cali that have been placed on trial for
forming gangs, prisoner abuse, and death threats on those who broke
the
"code of silence" Given that three prisons within my area are either
going to court or being investigated for such behavior, I'm a bit
leery.
Well, we can look at all types of organizations and find bad apples,
YOU, for example.
but does that mean you throw out the whole bunch? I can give you many
examples of abuse by police, dishonest lawyers, doctors that have gone
bad, and so forth. Do we no longer trust the police? Do we no longer
trust lawyers? Do we no longer go to the doctor?
Of course not.
I for one detest any Correctional Officer who abuses his or her power.
You do it constantly. You are to most unprofessional correctional
officer one can imagine.
We are placed in the prisons with the trust of the public.
A prison serves four functions.
a) Incarceration
b) Retribution
c) Rehabilitation
d) Deterrence (there are two types of deterrence - specific and
general)
LOL!!!!! What a pathetic putz.
A Correctional Officer has four roles
a) Security (always first)
b) Team Member
c) Manager of Inmates
d) Role Model
LOL!!! STOP!!!! Your killing me!
If the stories of the Correctional Officers you are talking about is
true, they deserve what ever happens to them. However; I can tell you
a great deal of the time such stories are fabricated usually due to an
inmate wanting retaliation and often times the cases are thrown out due
to lack of evidence.
You see? Osprey assumes it is a lie.
There is a different world, in the world of the Correctional Officer.
There is also a Code of Ethics. I am not going to get into it, but all
I will say is don't judge based on the actions of a few.
Otherwise we would assume ALL correctional officer's pretend those they
can't debate with are convicted criminals.
Most of your
Correctional Officers are doing the best job they can.
With their limited intelligence and insecurities.
I know the
prisons in California are some of the hardest ones to work in.
Especially Pelican Bay, notorious for gang problems. I know of many
Correctional Officers who are hurt on the job, hassled by the inmates,
taunted, and so forth. It's a job most can't do nor want to do for
obvious reasons. It takes a unique person to be able to do the job and
stay with it. Most don't last their first six months. I have been
doing this for more than six years. I have a brother who started as a
Correctional Officer in Washington, he has more than twenty years now
and is a Captain. He has suffered two broken noses, a stabbing attempt,
had urine thrown on him as well as fecese and blood. The threat of
disease is always high as well. But he is a calm person, able to
handle high stress and think quickly. The difference between a good
officer and one who can't handle it, is one who knows how to react,
when to react, and when to just let things go.
Maybe you need to do your jobs and keep the problems from happening in
the first place.
So don't judge to harshly, let the system deal with those who may have
gone wrong. Believe me when I say this, most Correctional Officers
want the bad ones out far more than the public does.
Which explains why they are scrambling to get rid of you.
Same as with
almost any career where one may have to rely on another. They want the
bad one's out.
That explains why those two correctional officer's turned on you.
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| Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS |
18 Apr 2005 01:48:11 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:180420050756352622%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <1113807144.303811.317720@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
AntiSocial wrote:
osprey wrote:
AntiSocial wrote:
Patrick Lee Humphrey wrote:
AntiSocial <pessimistdepressionist@yahoo.com> writes:
osprey wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
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Check laws involving human beings and see if they cover a
fetus
without being written specifically to cover a fetus.
That's why people go to jail for killing a fetus..explain
that
ROFL!!!! The guard doesnąt understand the law.
This guard knows more about law than the fictional lawyer
knows
any day.
Your knowledge of the law is pathetic
You are just ***** because I have become educated and
learning
more about law and you can't counter. Go back to bed moron.
Am I the only one who finds "You are just ***** because I
have
become
educated and learning more about law and you can't counter" very
indictive of
someone's mental abilities?
Not at all, but that's just Robert "Osprey" Heishman's standard
routine.
Check truetoblue.org to see how amazingly proficient he is in
English.
I try to steer clear of COs due to the fun things I've learned
about
them.
And what would that be?
And be careful, yes there are bad CO's, there are also very good
professional CO's.
I'm referring to those in Cali that have been placed on trial for
forming gangs, prisoner abuse, and death threats on those who broke
the
"code of silence" Given that three prisons within my area are either
going to court or being investigated for such behavior, I'm a bit
leery.
Well, we can look at all types of organizations and find bad apples,
YOU, for example.
You are so jealous, it's pathetic.
but does that mean you throw out the whole bunch? I can give you many
examples of abuse by police, dishonest lawyers, doctors that have gone
bad, and so forth. Do we no longer trust the police? Do we no longer
trust lawyers? Do we no longer go to the doctor?
Of course not.
I for one detest any Correctional Officer who abuses his or her power.
You do it constantly. You are to most unprofessional correctional
officer one can imagine.
And yet, we see absolutely no evidence fromyou what so ever.
We are placed in the prisons with the trust of the public.
A prison serves four functions.
a) Incarceration
b) Retribution
c) Rehabilitation
d) Deterrence (there are two types of deterrence - specific and
general)
LOL!!!!! What a pathetic putz.
Note: Barnes has no counter..take a look at his usual response.
A Correctional Officer has four roles
a) Security (always first)
b) Team Member
c) Manager of Inmates
d) Role Model
LOL!!! STOP!!!! Your killing me!
Note: Again, when Barnes has no counter...look at his usual response.
If the stories of the Correctional Officers you are talking about is
true, they deserve what ever happens to them. However; I can tell you
a great deal of the time such stories are fabricated usually due to an
inmate wanting retaliation and often times the cases are thrown out due
to lack of evidence.
You see? Osprey assumes it is a lie.
Note: Barnes is incapable of actually reading.
There is a different world, in the world of the Correctional Officer.
There is also a Code of Ethics. I am not going to get into it, but all
I will say is don't judge based on the actions of a few.
Otherwise we would assume ALL correctional officer's pretend those they
can't debate with are convicted criminals.
Most of your
Correctional Officers are doing the best job they can.
With their limited intelligence and insecurities.
Barnes shows his deep rooted contempt for Correctional Officers
I know the
prisons in California are some of the hardest ones to work in.
Especially Pelican Bay, notorious for gang problems. I know of many
Correctional Officers who are hurt on the job, hassled by the inmates,
taunted, and so forth. It's a job most can't do nor want to do for
obvious reasons. It takes a unique person to be able to do the job and
stay with it. Most don't last their first six months. I have been
doing this for more than six years. I have a brother who started as a
Correctional Officer in Washington, he has more than twenty years now
and is a Captain. He has suffered two broken noses, a stabbing attempt,
had urine thrown on him as well as fecese and blood. The threat of
disease is always high as well. But he is a calm person, able to
handle high stress and think quickly. The difference between a good
officer and one who can't handle it, is one who knows how to react,
when to react, and when to just let things go.
Maybe you need to do your jobs and keep the problems from happening in
the first place.
Barnes displays he has absolutely no idea what he is talking about.
So don't judge to harshly, let the system deal with those who may have
gone wrong. Believe me when I say this, most Correctional Officers
want the bad ones out far more than the public does.
Which explains why they are scrambling to get rid of you.
Note: Barnes back to his delusions.
Same as with
almost any career where one may have to rely on another. They want the
bad one's out.
That explains why those two correctional officer's turned on you.
Note: Barnes back to lying.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS |
18 Apr 2005 09:37:14 PM |
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In article <avmdnUiRB_10nfnfRVn-uA@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:180420050756352622%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <1113807144.303811.317720@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
AntiSocial wrote:
osprey wrote:
AntiSocial wrote:
Patrick Lee Humphrey wrote:
AntiSocial <pessimistdepressionist@yahoo.com> writes:
osprey wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
.
Check laws involving human beings and see if they cover a
fetus
without being written specifically to cover a fetus.
That's why people go to jail for killing a fetus..explain
that
ROFL!!!! The guard doesnąt understand the law.
This guard knows more about law than the fictional lawyer
knows
any day.
Your knowledge of the law is pathetic
You are just ***** because I have become educated and
learning
more about law and you can't counter. Go back to bed moron.
Am I the only one who finds "You are just ***** because I
have
become
educated and learning more about law and you can't counter" very
indictive of
someone's mental abilities?
Not at all, but that's just Robert "Osprey" Heishman's standard
routine.
Check truetoblue.org to see how amazingly proficient he is in
English.
I try to steer clear of COs due to the fun things I've learned
about
them.
And what would that be?
And be careful, yes there are bad CO's, there are also very good
professional CO's.
I'm referring to those in Cali that have been placed on trial for
forming gangs, prisoner abuse, and death threats on those who broke
the
"code of silence" Given that three prisons within my area are either
going to court or being investigated for such behavior, I'm a bit
leery.
Well, we can look at all types of organizations and find bad apples,
YOU, for example.
You are so jealous, it's pathetic.
LOL! Yeah. I wish I could get 40K per year working overtime.
but does that mean you throw out the whole bunch? I can give you many
examples of abuse by police, dishonest lawyers, doctors that have gone
bad, and so forth. Do we no longer trust the police? Do we no longer
trust lawyers? Do we no longer go to the doctor?
Of course not.
I for one detest any Correctional Officer who abuses his or her power.
You do it constantly. You are to most unprofessional correctional
officer one can imagine.
And yet, we see absolutely no evidence fromyou what so ever.
Right. The evidence comes from you.
We are placed in the prisons with the trust of the public.
A prison serves four functions.
a) Incarceration
b) Retribution
c) Rehabilitation
d) Deterrence (there are two types of deterrence - specific and
general)
LOL!!!!! What a pathetic putz.
Note: Barnes has no counter..take a look at his usual response.
Counter to what? That you are so insecure you hope to impress with
this *****?
<Snip - Bored>
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| User: "Ricky Ticket" |
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| Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS |
18 Apr 2005 03:48:47 AM |
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On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 2:52:24 -0400, osprey wrote
(in message <1113807144.303811.317720@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>):
There is a different world, in the world of the Correctional Officer.
There is also a Code of Ethics.
Yup, not to mention a complete set of laws and regulations regarding public
conduct, descemination of information (real or false), and use of department
computers. :o)
Thanks for posting this, you could never claim ignorance of the code of
ethics now and get away with it. :o)
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS |
18 Apr 2005 08:01:46 AM |
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"Ricky Ticket" <not@given.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.BE88ECD1000209F31EB0C5F0@news.east.earthlink.net...
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 2:52:24 -0400, osprey wrote
(in message <1113807144.303811.317720@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>):
There is a different world, in the world of the Correctional Officer.
There is also a Code of Ethics.
Yup, not to mention a complete set of laws and regulations regarding
public
conduct, descemination of information (real or false), and use of
department
computers. :o)
Thanks for posting this, you could never claim ignorance of the code of
ethics now and get away with it. :o)
Oh my Micky is popping out behind someone else's skirt.
You were better off with your "silent" collecting or what ever you called
it.
Let me give you a few reasons why I am respected as a Correctional Officer.
First, before that..in regards to using computers. You can call and cry,
but we have an "acceptable" use policy. I have never violated it.
Now..
I am respected for a few reasons.
a) I am professional in my duty's
b) I treat subordinates and inmates firm, fair, and consistent
c) I am an educated officer who takes education seriously and helps other
officers find ways to become better officers themselves through education.
For example: I have lead many officers to becoming certified through the
American Correctional Association (A.C.A.)
d) With my many years in the Air Force, I bring a professional look. I am
healthy, in shape, uniform always pressed, boots polished, I stand tall. I
don't have to command respect, I earn it.
So all this yapping you are doing, is doing nothing but feeding your peanut
gallery. Are you going to lie next like Barnes and claim people email you?
You made a comment about supervision. Why don't you show some proof? I
know why, because you haven't got any. I know better. I know my
relationship with supervision, much better than you or anyone else.
So if you are going to play peek a boo and hide behind Barne's skirt and
occasionally come out and squeak, be prepared to show something.
Oh, last week you were saying something about DELJIS and somehow reporting
me to the "proper" people. You got quiet. Imagine that, tell us why.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS |
18 Apr 2005 09:56:36 AM |
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In article <Hc6dnWwtE85hM_7fRVn-vA@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ricky Ticket" <not@given.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.BE88ECD1000209F31EB0C5F0@news.east.earthlink.net...
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 2:52:24 -0400, osprey wrote
(in message <1113807144.303811.317720@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>):
There is a different world, in the world of the Correctional Officer.
There is also a Code of Ethics.
Yup, not to mention a complete set of laws and regulations regarding
public
conduct, descemination of information (real or false), and use of
department
computers. :o)
Thanks for posting this, you could never claim ignorance of the code of
ethics now and get away with it. :o)
Oh my Micky is popping out behind someone else's skirt.
You were better off with your "silent" collecting or what ever you called
it.
Let me give you a few reasons why I am respected as a Correctional Officer.
LOL!!!!!!! Explain why I have two correctional officer's tell on you!
First, before that..in regards to using computers.
In "regards" to computers?
You can call and cry,
but we have an "acceptable" use policy. I have never violated it.
Well! There is a good reason to "respect" you.
Now..
I am respected for a few reasons.
a) I am professional in my duty's
b) I treat subordinates and inmates firm, fair, and consistent
c) I am an educated officer who takes education seriously and helps other
officers find ways to become better officers themselves through education.
For example: I have lead many officers to becoming certified through the
American Correctional Association (A.C.A.)
d) With my many years in the Air Force, I bring a professional look. I am
healthy, in shape, uniform always pressed, boots polished, I stand tall. I
don't have to command respect, I earn it.
We've seen you, Spud. You can't kid us.
So all this yapping you are doing, is doing nothing but feeding your peanut
gallery. Are you going to lie next like Barnes and claim people email you?
They have - and all you can do is say you know they haven't, as though
that MEANS something.
You made a comment about supervision. Why don't you show some proof? I
know why, because you haven't got any. I know better. I know my
relationship with supervision, much better than you or anyone else.
Here is the proof: (1) Two of your people say you are a joke, (2) your
actions out here prove you are unprofessional. You make things up
about people who beat you debating.
So if you are going to play peek a boo and hide behind Barne's skirt and
occasionally come out and squeak, be prepared to show something.
That has already been done many times.
Oh, last week you were saying something about DELJIS and somehow reporting
me to the "proper" people. You got quiet. Imagine that, tell us why.
Because the burden is yours?
So much for all that support you get.
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| User: "Ricky Ticket" |
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| Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS |
19 Apr 2005 08:22:54 AM |
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On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 9:01:46 -0400, Osprey wrote
(in message <Hc6dnWwtE85hM_7fRVn-vA@comcast.com>):
Oh, last week you were saying something about DELJIS and somehow reporting
me to the "proper" people. You got quiet. Imagine that, tell us why.
Nervous bob-o? You should be after making such damaging statements with
regard to your improper accessing of inmate files and improper use of that
information. It seems you broke some serious rules and possibly a few laws
just to look like a tough guy in an internet newsgroup. There is no telling
what a guy like you is willing to do and your supervision seems to agree with
that. :o)
Chew on this...
Even if you lied about your actions and did not use department computers, you
are still violating ethics codes in your very public claims of impropriety.
You also don't seem to uphold the high moral standards the department
requires for public interactions and use of department computers (Posting via
Goggle from state computers does not hide your actions). :o)
I guess flying jesus's flag while acting like a scumbag doesn't cover your
actions. Your bosses seem to know all about your antics via department
computers and they now know of you hostile personality, your claims of
improper access to inmate records, and your use of that information on the
internet. They also don't seem to like your representations of the department
and your constant thumbing your nose at the rules with your "prove it
attitude". I love this!
I warned you that your arrogance would be your downfall dipshit. ;o)
It might be time to talk to a department lawyer. I recommend a shrink, you
are easily proven mentally ill and that might help you hold your job if you
get treatment. :o)
PS
Please keep posting! :o) :o)
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS |
19 Apr 2005 08:45:55 AM |
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"Ricky Ticket" <not@given.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.BE8A7E920002000623531F40@news.east.earthlink.net...
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 9:01:46 -0400, Osprey wrote
(in message <Hc6dnWwtE85hM_7fRVn-vA@comcast.com>):
Oh, last week you were saying something about DELJIS and somehow
reporting
me to the "proper" people. You got quiet. Imagine that, tell us why.
Nervous bob-o?
No, just waiting for the comedy routine to begin. So why did you get so
quiet?
I know the reason, I wonder if you are going to be honest enough.
You should be after making such damaging statements with
regard to your improper accessing of inmate files and improper use of that
information.
And your proof of this is where?
It seems you broke some serious rules and possibly a few laws
just to look like a tough guy in an internet newsgroup.
I am anxious for you to get started on actually proving these serious
allegations you are making. Yet, you are spinning your wheels hiding behind
others.
There is no telling
what a guy like you is willing to do and your supervision seems to agree
with
that. :o)
Chew on this...
Even if you lied about your actions and did not use department computers,
you
are still violating ethics codes in your very public claims of
impropriety.
The claims are true..I have provided the court documents which are readily
available via the internet.
Example: Patrick L. Humphrey appealed his case.
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=11th&navby=case&no=946984man
David Barnes case
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=463&invol=745
So there were no lies..you can chew on that..:o)
All that information is available to the public.
You also don't seem to uphold the high moral standards the department
requires for public interactions and use of department computers (Posting
via
Goggle from state computers does not hide your actions). :o)
Well, all I can tell you is learn our acceptable use of policy. You will
find I have never violated any policy, my job duties are done, and I have
never once had anyone complain, never been reprimanded, and always do my
job. So once again..chew on that..:o)
You could join the ranks of patty who has been crying this same song and
dance for two years now.
I guess flying jesus's flag while acting like a scumbag doesn't cover your
actions.
I have a Jesus flag? Where?
Your bosses seem to know all about your antics via department
computers and they now know of you hostile personality,
Really? Well how about you tell me the name of any one of my bosses.
Watch out folks, here comes the Barne's excuse.."I promised I wouldn't tell"
your claims of
improper access to inmate records,
What claims? Please show some proof of these serious allegations or go back
to hiding behind Barnes skirt and poking your head out from time to time.
and your use of that information on the
internet.
Information that is available to the public...WOW..big crime.
They also don't seem to like your representations of the department
and your constant thumbing your nose at the rules with your "prove it
attitude". I love this!
And yet I bet you can't name one of my supervisors...LOL...I am actually
loving this.
I warned you that your arrogance would be your downfall dipshit. ;o)
Right..sure
It might be time to talk to a department lawyer. I recommend a shrink, you
are easily proven mentally ill and that might help you hold your job if
you
get treatment. :o)
Can I laugh now or should I wait a few more weeks?
PS
Please keep posting! :o) :o)
You too...:o) :o)
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS |
19 Apr 2005 10:16:35 AM |
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In article <36udncoADrhpl_jfRVn-rw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ricky Ticket" <not@given.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.BE8A7E920002000623531F40@news.east.earthlink.net...
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 9:01:46 -0400, Osprey wrote
(in message <Hc6dnWwtE85hM_7fRVn-vA@comcast.com>):
Oh, last week you were saying something about DELJIS and somehow
reporting
me to the "proper" people. You got quiet. Imagine that, tell us why.
Nervous bob-o?
No, just waiting for the comedy routine to begin. So why did you get so
quiet?
I know the reason, I wonder if you are going to be honest enough.
No one is honest in your world, are they?
You should be after making such damaging statements with
regard to your improper accessing of inmate files and improper use of that
information.
And your proof of this is where?
LOL!!! There he goes again!
It seems you broke some serious rules and possibly a few laws
just to look like a tough guy in an internet newsgroup.
I am anxious for you to get started on actually proving these serious
allegations you are making. Yet, you are spinning your wheels hiding behind
others.
One trick pony.
There is no telling
what a guy like you is willing to do and your supervision seems to agree
with
that. :o)
Chew on this...
Even if you lied about your actions and did not use department computers,
you
are still violating ethics codes in your very public claims of
impropriety.
The claims are true..I have provided the court documents which are readily
available via the internet.
Example: Patrick L. Humphrey appealed his case.
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=11th&navby=case&no=9469
84man
David Barnes case
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=463&invol=745
So there were no lies..you can chew on that..:o)
All that information is available to the public.
Except you are a liar. How "professional." Simply finding a case that
mentions the same name as me means nothing. The claims you made up
don't jive with the case.
What you have said in the past is that I am a convicted child molester
who is currently on parole. You have stated that a condition of my
parole is that I not be allowed around children. You have stated that I
has to wear an ankle shackle. The case wasn't even about that.
I know you are scared, but this case won't help you.
In other words, we again, today, catch you lying.
You also don't seem to uphold the high moral standards the department
requires for public interactions and use of department computers (Posting
via
Goggle from state computers does not hide your actions). :o)
Well, all I can tell you is learn our acceptable use of policy. You will
find I have never violated any policy, my job duties are done, and I have
never once had anyone complain, never been reprimanded, and always do my
job. So once again..chew on that..:o)
LIAR - as has been proven in the past, you've been reprimanded.
You could join the ranks of patty who has been crying this same song and
dance for two years now.
Just don't join the ranks of a cowardly and unprofessional guard.
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS |
19 Apr 2005 10:41:17 AM |
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David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <36udncoADrhpl_jfRVn-rw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ricky Ticket" <not@given.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.BE8A7E920002000623531F40@news.east.earthlink.net...
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 9:01:46 -0400, Osprey wrote
(in message <Hc6dnWwtE85hM_7fRVn-vA@comcast.com>):
Oh, last week you were saying something about DELJIS and somehow
reporting
me to the "proper" people. You got quiet. Imagine that, tell
us why.
Nervous bob-o?
No, just waiting for the comedy routine to begin. So why did you
get so
quiet?
I know the reason, I wonder if you are going to be honest enough.
No one is honest in your world, are they?
You should be after making such damaging statements with
regard to your improper accessing of inmate files and improper
use of that
information.
And your proof of this is where?
LOL!!! There he goes again!
It seems you broke some serious rules and possibly a few laws
just to look like a tough guy in an internet newsgroup.
I am anxious for you to get started on actually proving these
serious
allegations you are making. Yet, you are spinning your wheels
hiding behind
others.
One trick pony.
There is no telling
what a guy like you is willing to do and your supervision seems
to agree
with
that. :o)
Chew on this...
Even if you lied about your actions and did not use department
computers,
you
are still violating ethics codes in your very public claims of
impropriety.
The claims are true..I have provided the court documents which are
readily
available via the internet.
Example: Patrick L. Humphrey appealed his case.
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=11th&navby=case&no=9469
84man
David Barnes case
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=463&invol=745
So there were no lies..you can chew on that..:o)
All that information is available to the public.
Except you are a liar. How "professional." Simply finding a case
that
mentions the same name as me means nothing. The claims you made up
don't jive with the case.
What you have said in the past is that I am a convicted child
molester
who is currently on parole. You have stated that a condition of my
parole is that I not be allowed around children. You have stated that
I
has to wear an ankle shackle. The case wasn't even about that.
I know you are scared, but this case won't help you.
In other words, we again, today, catch you lying.
You also don't seem to uphold the high moral standards the
department
requires for public interactions and use of department computers
(Posting
via
Goggle from state computers does not hide your actions). :o)
Well, all I can tell you is learn our acceptable use of policy.
You will
find I have never violated any policy, my job duties are done, and
I have
never once had anyone complain, never been reprimanded, and always
do my
job. So once again..chew on that..:o)
LIAR - as has been proven in the past, you've been reprimanded.
Where is this proof?
Zooooooooooooom...there he goes folks...running off.
You could join the ranks of patty who has been crying this same
song and
dance for two years now.
Just don't join the ranks of a cowardly and unprofessional guard.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS |
19 Apr 2005 09:57:52 PM |
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In article <1113925277.184367.16750@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <36udncoADrhpl_jfRVn-rw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ricky Ticket" <not@given.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.BE8A7E920002000623531F40@news.east.earthlink.net...
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 9:01:46 -0400, Osprey wrote
(in message <Hc6dnWwtE85hM_7fRVn-vA@comcast.com>):
Oh, last week you were saying something about DELJIS and somehow
reporting
me to the "proper" people. You got quiet. Imagine that, tell
us why.
Nervous bob-o?
No, just waiting for the comedy routine to begin. So why did you
get so
quiet?
I know the reason, I wonder if you are going to be honest enough.
No one is honest in your world, are they?
You should be after making such damaging statements with
regard to your improper accessing of inmate files and improper
use of that
information.
And your proof of this is where?
LOL!!! There he goes again!
It seems you broke some serious rules and possibly a few laws
just to look like a tough guy in an internet newsgroup.
I am anxious for you to get started on actually proving these
serious
allegations you are making. Yet, you are spinning your wheels
hiding behind
others.
One trick pony.
There is no telling
what a guy like you is willing to do and your supervision seems
to agree
with
that. :o)
Chew on this...
Even if you lied about your actions and did not use department
computers,
you
are still violating ethics codes in your very public claims of
impropriety.
The claims are true..I have provided the court documents which are
readily
available via the internet.
Example: Patrick L. Humphrey appealed his case.
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=11th&navby=case&no=9469
84man
David Barnes case
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=463&invol=745
So there were no lies..you can chew on that..:o)
All that information is available to the public.
Except you are a liar. How "professional." Simply finding a case
that
mentions the same name as me means nothing. The claims you made up
don't jive with the case.
What you have said in the past is that I am a convicted child
molester
who is currently on parole. You have stated that a condition of my
parole is that I not be allowed around children. You have stated that
I
has to wear an ankle shackle. The case wasn't even about that.
I know you are scared, but this case won't help you.
In other words, we again, today, catch you lying.
You also don't seem to uphold the high moral standards the
department
requires for public interactions and use of department computers
(Posting
via
Goggle from state computers does not hide your actions). :o)
Well, all I can tell you is learn our acceptable use of policy.
You will
find I have never violated any policy, my job duties are done, and
I have
never once had anyone complain, never been reprimanded, and always
do my
job. So once again..chew on that..:o)
LIAR - as has been proven in the past, you've been reprimanded.
Where is this proof?
Zooooooooooooom...there he goes folks...running off.
The emails of two guards who know you. What more do I need?
You could join the ranks of patty who has been crying this same
song and
dance for two years now.
Just don't join the ranks of a cowardly and unprofessional guard.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS |
19 Apr 2005 10:16:34 AM |
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In article <0001HW.BE8A7E920002000623531F40@news.east.earthlink.net>,
Ricky Ticket <not@given.com> wrote:
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 9:01:46 -0400, Osprey wrote
(in message <Hc6dnWwtE85hM_7fRVn-vA@comcast.com>):
Oh, last week you were saying something about DELJIS and somehow reporting
me to the "proper" people. You got quiet. Imagine that, tell us why.
Nervous bob-o? You should be after making such damaging statements with
regard to your improper accessing of inmate files and improper use of that
information. It seems you broke some serious rules and possibly a few laws
just to look like a tough guy in an internet newsgroup. There is no telling
what a guy like you is willing to do and your supervision seems to agree with
that. :o)
There you go. And believe me, there are many out here that can attest
to his improprieties and unprofessional behavior.
Chew on this...
Even if you lied about your actions and did not use department computers, you
are still violating ethics codes in your very public claims of impropriety.
He doesn't get that.
You also don't seem to uphold the high moral standards the department
requires for public interactions and use of department computers (Posting via
Goggle from state computers does not hide your actions). :o)
I guess flying jesus's flag while acting like a scumbag doesn't cover your
actions. Your bosses seem to know all about your antics via department
computers and they now know of you hostile personality, your claims of
improper access to inmate records, and your use of that information on the
internet. They also don't seem to like your representations of the department
and your constant thumbing your nose at the rules with your "prove it
attitude". I love this!
I warned you that your arrogance would be your downfall dipshit. ;o)
As it no doubt will be. I am sure that his supervisors don't think
very highly of this kind of thing.
It might be time to talk to a department lawyer. I recommend a shrink, you
are easily proven mentally ill and that might help you hold your job if you
get treatment. :o)
PS
Please keep posting! :o) :o)
Doubtful - you probably scared him pretty badly.
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS |
16 Apr 2005 08:10:45 AM |
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AntiSocial wrote:
osprey wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
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Check laws involving human beings and see if they cover a
fetus
without being written specifically to cover a fetus.
That's why people go to jail for killing a fetus..explain that
ROFL!!!! The guard doesn=B9t understand the law.
This guard knows more about law than the fictional lawyer knows
any
day.
Your knowledge of the law is pathetic
You are just ***** because I have become educated and learning
more about law and you can't counter. Go back to bed moron.
Am I the only one who finds "You are just ***** because I have
become educated and learning more about law and you can't counter"
very
indictive of someone's mental abilities?
To each his own.
But if you wish to talk about someone's mental abilities, and one who
claims to be a lawer, watch Barnes..:o)
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS |
16 Apr 2005 10:26:52 AM |
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In article <1113657045.138556.219500@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
AntiSocial wrote:
osprey wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
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Check laws involving human beings and see if they cover a
fetus
without being written specifically to cover a fetus.
That's why people go to jail for killing a fetus..explain that
ROFL!!!! The guard doesnąt understand the law.
This guard knows more about law than the fictional lawyer knows
any
day.
Your knowledge of the law is pathetic
You are just ***** because I have become educated and learning
more about law and you can't counter. Go back to bed moron.
Am I the only one who finds "You are just ***** because I have
become educated and learning more about law and you can't counter"
very
indictive of someone's mental abilities?
To each his own.
But if you wish to talk about someone's mental abilities, and one who
claims to be a lawer, watch Barnes..:o)
You are a guard. A want to be cop.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS |
16 Apr 2005 11:26:38 AM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:160420050826522248%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <1113657045.138556.219500@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
AntiSocial wrote:
osprey wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
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Check laws involving human beings and see if they cover a
fetus
without being written specifically to cover a fetus.
That's why people go to jail for killing a fetus..explain that
ROFL!!!! The guard doesnąt understand the law.
This guard knows more about law than the fictional lawyer knows
any
day.
Your knowledge of the law is pathetic
You are just ***** because I have become educated and learning
more about law and you can't counter. Go back to bed moron.
Am I the only one who finds "You are just ***** because I have
become educated and learning more about law and you can't counter"
very
indictive of someone's mental abilities?
To each his own.
But if you wish to talk about someone's mental abilities, and one who
claims to be a lawer, watch Barnes..:o)
You are a guard. A want to be cop.
You are an ex-con who wants to be a man
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS |
16 Apr 2005 11:52:52 AM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:160420050826522248%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <1113657045.138556.219500@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
[...]
But if you wish to talk about someone's mental abilities, and one who
claims to be a lawer, watch Barnes..:o)
You are a guard. A want to be cop.
You are an ex-con who wants to be a man
Take that to the AG and this time, prove it. That might teach even you - what
you could learn from it is an entirely different matter.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 5, Chicago 2 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: Sunday, April 17 vs. Utah, 5:05
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS |
16 Apr 2005 03:33:45 PM |
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"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkmzry4qaj.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:160420050826522248%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <1113657045.138556.219500@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
[...]
But if you wish to talk about someone's mental abilities, and one who
claims to be a lawer, watch Barnes..:o)
You are a guard. A want to be cop.
You are an ex-con who wants to be a man
Take that to the AG and this time, prove it.
Don't just talk..do it.
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS |
16 Apr 2005 11:27:29 PM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkmzry4qaj.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:160420050826522248%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <1113657045.138556.219500@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
[...]
But if you wish to talk about someone's mental abilities, and one who
claims to be a lawer, watch Barnes..:o)
You are a guard. A want to be cop.
You are an ex-con who wants to be a man
Take that to the AG and this time, prove it.
Don't just talk..do it.
You're the one making the claim, Bobby. Grow a pair and prove it to the AG,
for once. Quit whining that others should do your work for you.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 5, Chicago 2 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: Sunday, April 17 vs. Utah, 5:05
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