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User:	""
Date:	05 Apr 2005 04:43:20 PM
Object:	ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS

ABORTION, and WHEN Human Life BEGINS
The debate about the abortion issue really boils down to
a question of WHEN human life begins. Many "pro-lifers" are
fundamentalist Christians but are unable to quote any clear
statements from their Bible indicating that human life begins
at conception. [And most of them, especially the Catholics,
are also against artificial birth control, which would
PREVENT the unwanted pregnancies to begin with! ] They are
apparently either ignorant of, or ignoring, GENESIS 2:7 KJV,
which states: "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the
ground, and breathed into his nostrils the BREATH OF LIFE,
and man became a living Soul.".
This Biblical statement indicates that human life begins
(Soul enters its new body) WHEN THE BODY TAKES ITS FIRST
BREATH OF AIR OUT-side THE WOMB. Therefore, if an aborted
fetus's lungs are too undeveloped to breathe, or if an older
fetus is biologically terminated IN-side the womb, then that
abortion can NOT be called "murder", because NO Soul was
present in the fetus.
A fetus is like a laptop computer with a working battery
but NO-one to operate it.
Another thing to consider is that each of us is
surrounded by a protective energy field usually called an
"AURA", as described in MANY books related to psychic
phenomena. A few people, including psychic futurist Gordon-
Michael Scallion, and the late "Sleeping Prophet" Edgar
Cayce, can actually SEE colored AURAs around people. The
Canadian scientist Frances Nixon developed a way to locate
the boundaries of a person's AURA.
One of the AURA's main purposes is to shield out
discarnate entities from a person's body. If an AURA becomes
weak, because of illness, injury, mind-altering drugs,
alcohol, etc., discarnate entities can sometimes invade and
cause insanity, possession, multiple personalities, etc..
THE AURA OF A HEALTHY PREGNANT WOMAN WOULD LIKEWISE
PREVENT A SOUL FROM ENTERING THE FETUS INSIDE HER.
A Soul that is seeking to REincarnate into this world
KNOWS if Its intended fetus is likely to be aborted before
birth or terminated immediately after birth, and will simply
STAY OUT OF IT.
The purpose of laws in a free country like the United
States should be to protect INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM, and prevent
it from being violated by others, NOT to stifle it in the
name of power, control, exploitation, ORTHODOX RELIGION, or
the money-god. Any man-made law which fails that test is
automatically and immediately UN-Constitutional, null and
void.
The INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM of a pregnant woman to control
her own body must likewise be protected.
If the "pro-lifers" would show as much concern for ALL
People AFTER birth as they do for fetus's before birth, the
world could rapidly become a decent place to live in.
Robert E. McElwaine
Eckankar Initiate
http://members.aol.com/rem547 PLUS
http://members.aol.com/rem460
Preserve BOTH on CD-R and PRINT-OUTS
P.S.: LIKE THE TALIBAN, fundamentalist Christians want to
create and MIS-use man-made laws to IMPOSE their self-
righteous religious values against the rest of us.
P.S.2: PASS IT ON !
"EVERYTHING you know is WRONG."
"The Truth IS stranger than fiction."
"The Truth is ALWAYS the FIRST CASUALTY OF WAR."
"OFFICIAL LIES are ALWAYS the BIGGEST LIES OF ALL."
"The more things change, the more they STAY THE SAME."

User: "osprey"
Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS	17 Apr 2005 11:43:52 PM

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <ddSdndzD2O1EnP7fRVn-ig@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:170420051726320297%dbarnes@aol.com...

In article <O5-dndxLEJCzcf_fRVn-hQ@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:170420051531193275%dbarnes@aol.com...

In article

<1113775418.684981.129340@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

AntiSocial wrote:

Patrick Lee Humphrey wrote:

AntiSocial <pessimistdepressionist@yahoo.com> writes:

osprey wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

Check laws involving human beings and see if they

cover a

fetus

without being written specifically to cover a

fetus.

That's why people go to jail for killing a

fetus..explain

that

ROFL!!!! The guard doesn=B9t understand the law.

This guard knows more about law than the fictional

lawyer knows

any day.

Your knowledge of the law is pathetic

You are just ***** because I have become educated

and

learning

more about law and you can't counter. Go back to bed

moron.

Am I the only one who finds "You are just *****

because I

have

become

educated and learning more about law and you can't

counter" very

indictive of

someone's mental abilities?

Not at all, but that's just Robert "Osprey" Heishman's

standard

routine.

Check truetoblue.org to see how amazingly proficient he

is in

English.

I try to steer clear of COs due to the fun things I've

learned about

them.

And what would that be?

And be careful, yes there are bad CO's, there are also very

good

professional CO's.

ANTISOCIAL: Osprey has actually claimed that he has

"discovered" that

Patrick and I are convicted criminals.

That's a lie

No - THAT is a lie. Have you no shame?

You don't. I never claimed that.

Glad to see you are finally backing down. Afraid for your job?

Nope, I am not backing down from anything. You lied, simple as that.

He says I am a child molester

That's another lie

David Barnes in
Message-ID: <020320031259133178%dbarnes@barnsco.com>

"In my opinion you are a child molester. "

That is the truth.

Message-ID: <010320031647346859%dbar...@ba=ADrnsco.com>
David Barnes said:

"Why would you, as the child molester that you are"

There are more examples, but that is just a start.

Again, in my opinion that is exactly what you are.

"as the child molester that you are" isn't opinion. It's a

statement that

is presented to look like a fact.

It was an opinion.

Nope, it was made as a statement to infer fact.
You even PROVED it when you posted my other post,

"In my opinion you are a child molester. "

That was a different post. There are plenty more post out there where
you make those claims.

Not quite the same

thing as making up some story about how you were convicted, is

it?

I never made up any story. I have provided the court documents on

David

Barnes and Patrick L. Humphrey.

What documents do you have that David Barnes is a child molester?

I never said I had any documents on David Barnes being a child
molester.
You

are a pathetic liar. Some "correctional officer."

You are too funny.
.

User: "David W. Barnes"
Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS	18 Apr 2005 09:56:35 AM

In article <1113799432.737925.282300@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <ddSdndzD2O1EnP7fRVn-ig@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:170420051726320297%dbarnes@aol.com...

In article <O5-dndxLEJCzcf_fRVn-hQ@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:170420051531193275%dbarnes@aol.com...

In article

<1113775418.684981.129340@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

AntiSocial wrote:

Patrick Lee Humphrey wrote:

AntiSocial <pessimistdepressionist@yahoo.com> writes:

osprey wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

Check laws involving human beings and see if they

cover a

fetus

without being written specifically to cover a

fetus.

That's why people go to jail for killing a

fetus..explain

that

ROFL!!!! The guard doesn�t understand the law.

This guard knows more about law than the fictional

lawyer knows

any day.

Your knowledge of the law is pathetic

You are just ***** because I have become educated

and

learning

more about law and you can't counter. Go back to bed

moron.

Am I the only one who finds "You are just *****

because I

have

become

educated and learning more about law and you can't

counter" very

indictive of

someone's mental abilities?

Not at all, but that's just Robert "Osprey" Heishman's

standard

routine.

Check truetoblue.org to see how amazingly proficient he

is in

English.

I try to steer clear of COs due to the fun things I've

learned about

them.

And what would that be?

And be careful, yes there are bad CO's, there are also very

good

professional CO's.

ANTISOCIAL: Osprey has actually claimed that he has

"discovered" that

Patrick and I are convicted criminals.

That's a lie

No - THAT is a lie. Have you no shame?

You don't. I never claimed that.

Glad to see you are finally backing down. Afraid for your job?

Nope, I am not backing down from anything. You lied, simple as that.

LOL! Liar.

He says I am a child molester

That's another lie

David Barnes in
Message-ID: <020320031259133178%dbarnes@barnsco.com>

"In my opinion you are a child molester. "

That is the truth.

Message-ID: <010320031647346859%dbar...@ba�rnsco.com>
David Barnes said:

"Why would you, as the child molester that you are"

There are more examples, but that is just a start.

Again, in my opinion that is exactly what you are.

"as the child molester that you are" isn't opinion. It's a

statement that

is presented to look like a fact.

It was an opinion.

Nope, it was made as a statement to infer fact.

You infer, I imply, you under educated half wit.

You even PROVED it when you posted my other post,

"In my opinion you are a child molester. "

That was a different post. There are plenty more post out there where
you make those claims.

So you prove my point.

Not quite the same

thing as making up some story about how you were convicted, is

it?

I never made up any story. I have provided the court documents on

David

Barnes and Patrick L. Humphrey.

What documents do you have that David Barnes is a child molester?

I never said I had any documents on David Barnes being a child
molester.

I know - you just lied.

You

are a pathetic liar. Some "correctional officer."

You are too funny.

And you are the most unprofessional correctional officer anyone could
imagine. I see why your "friends" turned on you.
.

User: "AntiSocial"
Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS	18 Apr 2005 01:31:46 AM

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1113775418.684981.129340@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

AntiSocial wrote:

Patrick Lee Humphrey wrote:

AntiSocial <pessimistdepressionist@yahoo.com> writes:

osprey wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

Check laws involving human beings and see if they cover a

fetus

without being written specifically to cover a fetus.

That's why people go to jail for killing a fetus..explain that

ROFL!!!! The guard doesn�t understand the law.

This guard knows more about law than the fictional lawyer knows

any day.

Your knowledge of the law is pathetic

You are just ***** because I have become educated and

learning

more about law and you can't counter. Go back to bed moron.

Am I the only one who finds "You are just ***** because I have

become

educated and learning more about law and you can't counter" very

indictive of

someone's mental abilities?

Not at all, but that's just Robert "Osprey" Heishman's standard

routine.

Check truetoblue.org to see how amazingly proficient he is in

English.

I try to steer clear of COs due to the fun things I've learned about

them.

And what would that be?

And be careful, yes there are bad CO's, there are also very good
professional CO's.

ANTISOCIAL: Osprey has actually claimed that he has "discovered" that
Patrick and I are convicted criminals. He says I am a child molester
and Patrick is a drug dealer. And the reason he says this is because
he can't keep up with us intellectually. (But he doesn't even know my
name.)

So what do you think? Is he a "bad CO" or a "very good professional
CO?" LOL!

Here's a better answer - I don't give a flying *****. The fact that all
of you have taken this to a real-world level is fucking disturbing to me.
.

User: "David W. Barnes"
Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS	19 Apr 2005 12:38:31 AM

In article <mvI8e.1010$Jj.606@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>, AntiSocial
<pessimistdepressionist@yahoo.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1113775418.684981.129340@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

AntiSocial wrote:

Patrick Lee Humphrey wrote:

AntiSocial <pessimistdepressionist@yahoo.com> writes:

osprey wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

Check laws involving human beings and see if they cover a

fetus

without being written specifically to cover a fetus.

That's why people go to jail for killing a fetus..explain that

ROFL!!!! The guard doesn�t understand the law.

This guard knows more about law than the fictional lawyer knows

any day.

Your knowledge of the law is pathetic

You are just ***** because I have become educated and

learning

more about law and you can't counter. Go back to bed moron.

Am I the only one who finds "You are just ***** because I have

become

educated and learning more about law and you can't counter" very

indictive of

someone's mental abilities?

Not at all, but that's just Robert "Osprey" Heishman's standard

routine.

Check truetoblue.org to see how amazingly proficient he is in

English.

I try to steer clear of COs due to the fun things I've learned about

them.

And what would that be?

And be careful, yes there are bad CO's, there are also very good
professional CO's.

Here's a better answer - I don't give a flying *****. The fact that all
of you have taken this to a real-world level is fucking disturbing to me.

You are kidding yourself if you think that about me. I see him as just
another pro-life joke. To me, anyway, he is the personification of the
pro-life. He is merely useful.
.

User: "AntiSocial"
Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS	20 Apr 2005 01:58:34 AM

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <mvI8e.1010$Jj.606@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>, AntiSocial
<pessimistdepressionist@yahoo.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1113775418.684981.129340@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

AntiSocial wrote:

Patrick Lee Humphrey wrote:

AntiSocial <pessimistdepressionist@yahoo.com> writes:

osprey wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

Check laws involving human beings and see if they cover a

fetus

without being written specifically to cover a fetus.

That's why people go to jail for killing a fetus..explain that

ROFL!!!! The guard doesn�t understand the law.

This guard knows more about law than the fictional lawyer knows

any day.

Your knowledge of the law is pathetic

You are just ***** because I have become educated and

learning

more about law and you can't counter. Go back to bed moron.

Am I the only one who finds "You are just ***** because I have

become

educated and learning more about law and you can't counter" very

indictive of

someone's mental abilities?

Not at all, but that's just Robert "Osprey" Heishman's standard

routine.

Check truetoblue.org to see how amazingly proficient he is in

English.

I try to steer clear of COs due to the fun things I've learned about

them.

And what would that be?

And be careful, yes there are bad CO's, there are also very good
professional CO's.

Here's a better answer - I don't give a flying *****. The fact that all
of you have taken this to a real-world level is fucking disturbing to me.

You are kidding yourself if you think that about me. I see him as just
another pro-life joke. To me, anyway, he is the personification of the
pro-life. He is merely useful.

Mentioning emails from possible co-workers about alleged misconduct
doesn't count as taking it to the real world?
.

User: "David W. Barnes"
Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS	20 Apr 2005 10:11:35 AM

In article <u4n9e.153$iB1.20@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com>, AntiSocial
<pessimistdepressionist@yahoo.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <mvI8e.1010$Jj.606@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>, AntiSocial
<pessimistdepressionist@yahoo.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1113775418.684981.129340@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

AntiSocial wrote:

Patrick Lee Humphrey wrote:

AntiSocial <pessimistdepressionist@yahoo.com> writes:

osprey wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

Check laws involving human beings and see if they cover a

fetus

without being written specifically to cover a fetus.

That's why people go to jail for killing a fetus..explain that

ROFL!!!! The guard doesn�t understand the law.

This guard knows more about law than the fictional lawyer knows

any day.

Your knowledge of the law is pathetic

You are just ***** because I have become educated and

learning

more about law and you can't counter. Go back to bed moron.

Am I the only one who finds "You are just ***** because I have

become

educated and learning more about law and you can't counter" very

indictive of

someone's mental abilities?

Not at all, but that's just Robert "Osprey" Heishman's standard

routine.

Check truetoblue.org to see how amazingly proficient he is in

English.

I try to steer clear of COs due to the fun things I've learned about

them.

And what would that be?

And be careful, yes there are bad CO's, there are also very good
professional CO's.

Here's a better answer - I don't give a flying *****. The fact that all
of you have taken this to a real-world level is fucking disturbing to me.

You are kidding yourself if you think that about me. I see him as just
another pro-life joke. To me, anyway, he is the personification of the
pro-life. He is merely useful.

Mentioning emails from possible co-workers about alleged misconduct
doesn't count as taking it to the real world?

The real world took it to me. And you are taking what I said out of
context. Osprey ran around at his prison job with printouts of things
I said and asked these fellow guards what they thought. Osprey says he
keeps a "file" on people like Patrick and I.
He kept telling me what these guards and police ofrficers supposedly
said - I really didn't care. Then, suddenly, two individuals who
stated they worked with Osprey sent me e-mail and told me some things
about Osprey, most of which I never reposted because I thought it was
inappropriate. Osprey has repeatedly asked me who these people are and
I have repeatedly refused to tell him. I really don't care what these
guards said about Osprey. I have only mentioned limited portions here
to refute Osprey's lie. He always asks me to "back up what I say," so
I do. Osprey also says he has investigated Patrick and I, and that
Patrick is a convicted drug dealer and I am a convicted child molester
he is lying. I feel his irresponsible and unprofessional defamation
should not go unchallenged.
.

User: "osprey"
Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS	20 Apr 2005 02:30:16 PM

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <u4n9e.153$iB1.20@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com>, AntiSocial
<pessimistdepressionist@yahoo.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <mvI8e.1010$Jj.606@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>,

AntiSocial

<pessimistdepressionist@yahoo.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article

<1113775418.684981.129340@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

AntiSocial wrote:

Patrick Lee Humphrey wrote:

AntiSocial <pessimistdepressionist@yahoo.com> writes:

osprey wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

Check laws involving human beings and see if they

cover a

fetus

without being written specifically to cover a fetus.

That's why people go to jail for killing a

fetus..explain that

ROFL!!!! The guard doesn=B9t understand the law.

This guard knows more about law than the fictional lawyer

knows

any day.

Your knowledge of the law is pathetic

You are just ***** because I have become educated and

learning

more about law and you can't counter. Go back to bed

moron.

Am I the only one who finds "You are just ***** because

I have

become

educated and learning more about law and you can't counter"

very

indictive of

someone's mental abilities?

Not at all, but that's just Robert "Osprey" Heishman's

standard

routine.

Check truetoblue.org to see how amazingly proficient he is in

English.

I try to steer clear of COs due to the fun things I've learned

about

them.

And what would that be?

And be careful, yes there are bad CO's, there are also very

good

professional CO's.

ANTISOCIAL: Osprey has actually claimed that he has

"discovered" that

Patrick and I are convicted criminals. He says I am a child

molester

and Patrick is a drug dealer. And the reason he says this is

because

he can't keep up with us intellectually. (But he doesn't even

know my

name.)

So what do you think? Is he a "bad CO" or a "very good

professional

CO?" LOL!

Here's a better answer - I don't give a flying *****. The fact

that all

of you have taken this to a real-world level is fucking

disturbing to me.

You are kidding yourself if you think that about me. I see him

as just

another pro-life joke. To me, anyway, he is the personification

of the

pro-life. He is merely useful.

Mentioning emails from possible co-workers about alleged misconduct
doesn't count as taking it to the real world?

The real world took it to me. And you are taking what I said out of
context. Osprey ran around at his prison job with printouts of

things

I said and asked these fellow guards what they thought. Osprey says

keeps a "file" on people like Patrick and I.

He kept telling me what these guards and police ofrficers supposedly
said - I really didn't care. Then, suddenly, two individuals who
stated they worked with Osprey sent me e-mail and told me some

things

about Osprey, most of which I never reposted because I thought it was
inappropriate. Osprey has repeatedly asked me who these people are

and

I have repeatedly refused to tell him. I really don't care what

these

guards said about Osprey. I have only mentioned limited portions

here

to refute Osprey's lie. He always asks me to "back up what I say,"

I do. Osprey also says he has investigated Patrick and I, and that
Patrick is a convicted drug dealer and I am a convicted child

molester

he is lying. I feel his irresponsible and unprofessional defamation
should not go unchallenged.

Every bit of what David Barnes is saying is a lie.
I never gave anyone his or anyone elses email address. No one emailed
him.
He changes his story so many times, it's pathetic.
First it was one person emailed him, then two, then three..back to two
again.
He claimed he talked to my supervisor, yet he didn't even know my
supervisors name.
He claimed that the individuals emailed him using their personal state
email.
He claimed he would not reveal the emails because it would expose their
identity.
Then he said he had no idea who they were, that he didn't know their
names.
Several problems with his lie and why it fell apart.
1) State employess at DOC can't email outside the system using their
state email
2) A state email has the persons name attached, so his comment that he
didn't know their name is a lie.
3) I never showed anyone his email address
The main reason Barnes keeps repeating this nonsense is to get a rise
out of me. That's the only reason. He does not mind lying about anyone
or anything.
The only reason I asked Barnes to show any evidence was to show that he
couldn't show evidence.
David Barnes has also made up phoney emails, sent them to himself, and
claimed I sent him an email.
This nonsense between Barnes and I has ended. It's ridiculous, no
matter how many times it is exposed to the entire newsgroup that he
can't support his claims, he will continue to rant on and on and on,
making them regardless. And there will be mindless idiots who support
him, KNOWING he is lying.
In regards to his comment about "investigating" him and Patrick.
No, I never done any "investigating", I simply found some information
on the internet. Since Patrick and David Barnes started their lies,
claims about me that were unsupported, I very easily duped both of them
and played their game right back.
I found two individuals by the names of Patrick L. Humphrey and David
Barnes.
All I had done was posted the criminal record on both of these
individuals, that is easily found on the internet, and posted it. I
NEVER said that they were the same, or was not the same. I simply set
the bait and both of them got all bent out of shape.
It's funny how they think it's o.k. for them to make up claims and lies
about others, but when it's turned around and done back to them..they
get all bent out of shape.
And that's the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. D
Anyone can choose to believe David Barnes, but they are a fool if they
do. All one has to do is just ask him to back up his claims and you
will get a list of excuses.
a) already done
b) I promised the person I wouldn't
c) you look it up
It's just one game after another with Barnes.
Someone told me, don't argue with a fool. If you do, then others will
not be able to tell who is the fool. Arguing with Barnes is like
arguing with a fool.
.

User: "David W. Barnes"
Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS	20 Apr 2005 09:41:14 PM

In article <1114025416.616480.119130@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

No, I never done any "investigating", I simply found some information
on the internet. Since Patrick and David Barnes started their lies,
claims about me that were unsupported, I very easily duped both of them
and played their game right back.

You mean you lied. You are so gutless you can't even admit to that.

I found two individuals by the names of Patrick L. Humphrey and David
Barnes.
All I had done was posted the criminal record on both of these
individuals, that is easily found on the internet, and posted it. I
NEVER said that they were the same, or was not the same.

A LIE. You repeatedly said we had "done time," asked if I "still had
to wear an ankle shackle," etc. Now you are so frightened at the
thought that you are the unprofessional guard we all know you to be you
are attempting to wiggle out of it. You don't even have the balls to
stand behind your lies. Guards at K-Mart are more professional and
honorable than you.
.

User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey"
Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS	20 Apr 2005 11:05:22 PM

"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> writes:

In article <1114025416.616480.119130@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

You mean you lied. You are so gutless you can't even admit to that.

That's not news.

....and that's true even here in southeast Texas - which K-Mart abandoned last
year.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 4, Houston 1 (April 19)
NEXT GAME: Thursday, April 21 at Chicago, 7:05 (Game 2)
.

User: "Ricky Ticket"
Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS	22 Apr 2005 12:49:33 AM

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 22:41:14 -0400, David W. Barnes wrote
(in message <200420051941141350%dbarnes@aol.com>):

You mean you lied. You are so gutless you can't even admit to that.

Indeed he does. The idiot is impeaching his own credibility and admitting he
is dishonest. I wonder how many "convicts" have suffered under this dishonest
freaks need to win at all costs? He is not the type of personality that
should be supervising inmates. :o)

Yup, he is trying to get out from under his own posts. He was VERY specific
in stating he had read evidence that you were in prison and that you did not
follow the "program" while there.
People crossing over into "the real world" is always creepy and a guy like
this must be dealt with directly using his own game. Especially when he holds
himself out as moral and attacks others while he posts lie after lie from
state computers and after he has identified himself as a state corrections
employee that can access prisoner records and posts what he claims is that
info on the internet if he disagrees with someone.
My opinion is that the good citizens of DE. need to know about people like
this on the state payroll and the state needs to get rid of him before he
becomes a serious liability. :o)
.

User: "osprey"
Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS	22 Apr 2005 01:00:08 AM

Ricky Ticket wrote:

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 22:41:14 -0400, David W. Barnes wrote
(in message <200420051941141350%dbarnes@aol.com>):

You mean you lied. You are so gutless you can't even admit to

that.

Indeed he does. The idiot is impeaching his own credibility and

admitting he

is dishonest. I wonder how many "convicts" have suffered under this

dishonest

freaks need to win at all costs? He is not the type of personality

that

should be supervising inmates. :o)

I found two individuals by the names of Patrick L. Humphrey and

David

Barnes.
All I had done was posted the criminal record on both of these
individuals, that is easily found on the internet, and posted it.

NEVER said that they were the same, or was not the same.

A LIE. You repeatedly said we had "done time," asked if I "still

had

to wear an ankle shackle," etc. Now you are so frightened at the
thought that you are the unprofessional guard we all know you to be

you

are attempting to wiggle out of it. You don't even have the balls

stand behind your lies. Guards at K-Mart are more professional and
honorable than you.

Yup, he is trying to get out from under his own posts. He was VERY

specific

in stating he had read evidence that you were in prison and that you

did not

follow the "program" while there.

If you are going to be dramatic, at least get it right.
I said, people emailed me on the "program" part.
Barnes had shown people postings, and people who know Barnes emailed me
and told me some private things about him. Many of those private things
I have decided to keep private because it would be too embarrassing.
And I also promised to keep their identity a secret.

People crossing over into "the real world" is always creepy and a guy

this must be dealt with directly using his own game. Especially when

he holds

himself out as moral and attacks others while he posts lie after lie

from

state computers and after he has identified himself as a state

corrections

employee that can access prisoner records and posts what he claims is

that

info on the internet if he disagrees with someone.

My opinion is that the good citizens of DE. need to know about people

this on the state payroll and the state needs to get rid of him

before he

becomes a serious liability. :o)

Well, let me be the first to say good luck on your quest...:o)
oh, and I would like to thank you for that excellent demonstration of
stages 1, 2, and 3...on the hate model. You and Barnes are trying to
support each other, you have identified your target of hate, and gone
straight to stage 3 which is to support the hate between each
other...and actually I should say gone to stage 4, and both are trying
to taunt.
Excellent demonstration and it also shows why you are on the list.
.

User: "David W. Barnes"
Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS	22 Apr 2005 01:03:37 AM

In article <1114149608.179489.153610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Ricky Ticket wrote:

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 22:41:14 -0400, David W. Barnes wrote
(in message <200420051941141350%dbarnes@aol.com>):

You mean you lied. You are so gutless you can't even admit to

that.

Indeed he does. The idiot is impeaching his own credibility and

admitting he

is dishonest. I wonder how many "convicts" have suffered under this

dishonest

freaks need to win at all costs? He is not the type of personality

that

should be supervising inmates. :o)

I found two individuals by the names of Patrick L. Humphrey and

David

Barnes.
All I had done was posted the criminal record on both of these
individuals, that is easily found on the internet, and posted it.

NEVER said that they were the same, or was not the same.

A LIE. You repeatedly said we had "done time," asked if I "still

had

to wear an ankle shackle," etc. Now you are so frightened at the
thought that you are the unprofessional guard we all know you to be

you

are attempting to wiggle out of it. You don't even have the balls

stand behind your lies. Guards at K-Mart are more professional and
honorable than you.

Yup, he is trying to get out from under his own posts. He was VERY

specific

in stating he had read evidence that you were in prison and that you

did not

follow the "program" while there.

If you are going to be dramatic, at least get it right.

I said, people emailed me on the "program" part.

Barnes had shown people postings, and people who know Barnes emailed me
and told me some private things about him. Many of those private things
I have decided to keep private because it would be too embarrassing.
And I also promised to keep their identity a secret.

That's right - prove yourself to be the slime we all know you to be.
Tell us my name!
.

User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey"
Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS	22 Apr 2005 08:30:16 PM

"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> writes:

In article <1114149608.179489.153610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Ricky Ticket wrote:

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 22:41:14 -0400, David W. Barnes wrote
(in message <200420051941141350%dbarnes@aol.com>):

You mean you lied. You are so gutless you can't even admit to that.

Indeed he does. The idiot is impeaching his own credibility and admitting
he is dishonest. I wonder how many "convicts" have suffered under this
dishonest freaks need to win at all costs? He is not the type of
personality that should be supervising inmates. :o)

I found two individuals by the names of Patrick L. Humphrey and David
Barnes. All I had done was posted the criminal record on both of
these individuals, that is easily found on the internet, and posted
it. I NEVER said that they were the same, or was not the same.

Yup, he is trying to get out from under his own posts. He was VERY
specific in stating he had read evidence that you were in prison and that
you did not follow the "program" while there.

That's right - prove yourself to be the slime we all know you to be.
Tell us my name!

That's almost as likely as a sunrise in the west.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 2, Chicago 1 (OT) (April 21)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, April 23 vs. Chicago, 7:05 (Game 3)
.

User: "Ricky Ticket"
Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS	22 Apr 2005 01:17:08 AM

On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 2:00:08 -0400, osprey wrote
(in message <1114149608.179489.153610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>):

If you are going to be dramatic, at least get it right.

I said, people emailed me on the "program" part.

Liar, what you said is EXACTLY...

<BEGIN EVIDENCE>

"David Barnes hatred towards correctional officers is obvious, he served
time, I have copies of his record and his time served. He was a problem
inmate as well, and was unable to complete his program. So his hatred,
I can see where it is coming from. It sounds, although I can't prove
it, Ricky may have the same reasons."

<END EVIDENCE>

You really are playing right into my hand dipshit and showing EXACTLY how
dishonest you really are and EXACTLY why you are unfit to be supervising
inmates. You're dishonesty is a liability and the state will see that
clearly. If they don't, maybe the local papers will make them jump with an
investigative report. Yes, I am not just attacking in one direction, a good
warrior always has a backup plan. :o)

Well, let me be the first to say good luck on your quest...:o)

Why so dishonest, you don�t wish me luck. What would Jesus do? :o)

Excellent demonstration and it also shows why you are on the list.

I am "on the list" because you decided to pull me into your little world
where you are "investigating" people and making posts about your findings
(see above). Mentioning my name and attempting to lump me in with others was
a mistake dipshit. They may let you get away with it, I won't and I will use
your own posts (some made from state computers) to bring you down. :o)
.

User: "osprey"
Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS	22 Apr 2005 01:36:38 AM

Ricky Ticket wrote:

On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 2:00:08 -0400, osprey wrote
(in message <1114149608.179489.153610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>):

If you are going to be dramatic, at least get it right.

I said, people emailed me on the "program" part.

Liar, what you said is EXACTLY...

<BEGIN EVIDENCE>

"David Barnes hatred towards correctional officers is obvious, he

served

time, I have copies of his record and his time served. He was a

problem

inmate as well, and was unable to complete his program. So his

hatred,

I can see where it is coming from. It sounds, although I can't

prove

it, Ricky may have the same reasons."

<END EVIDENCE>

You really are playing right into my hand dipshit and showing EXACTLY

how

dishonest you really are and EXACTLY why you are unfit to be

supervising

inmates. You're dishonesty is a liability and the state will see that
clearly. If they don't, maybe the local papers will make them jump

with an

investigative report. Yes, I am not just attacking in one direction,

a good

warrior always has a backup plan. :o)

Well, let me be the first to say good luck on your quest...:o)

Why so dishonest, you don=B9t wish me luck. What would Jesus do? :o)

Excellent demonstration and it also shows why you are on the list.

I am "on the list" because you decided to pull me into your little

world

where you are "investigating" people and making posts about your

findings

(see above). Mentioning my name and attempting to lump me in with

others was

a mistake dipshit. They may let you get away with it, I won't and I

will use

your own posts (some made from state computers) to bring you down.

:o)
This may be fun and games to you Rickie, but you might want to be very
careful. You are showing your own immaturity and that goes against your
credibility, especially if you are showing these post to anyone. You
are showing you are having a little tantrum.
Now, you are claiming to go to the newspapers. Well, you do what you
want to do. But let me say this, newspapers require your name and
slander can get you in a whole world of trouble.
Now, you claim to be so hot on "professionalism". Let me display you
are a hypocrite. How am I going to do that? That's easy, I am going to
ask you some questions about Barnes. You will turn your head and look
the other way.
Barnes claims he is a lawyer.
Do lawyers have a code of ethics?
Yes, they do
Can lawyers lose their license if they are unethical?
Yes, they can
Is lying unethical?
Yes, it is
Now, Barnes has made several claims about me for several years and I
have a very detailed list of his hateful comments about correcitonal
officers as well.
Is he professional for making false claims about me?
Such as
Claiming people emailed him things about me? (He never got any emails)
Claiming I was reprimanded? (that is not true)
Making up phoney emails, emailing them to himself, and claiming they
were sent by me?
Saying I applied for a sheriff's position and was denied? (that never
happened)
Those are just a few of his claims he has been lying about in this
newsgroup for more than two years.
So, are you a hypocrite and going to ignore that?
.

User: "David W. Barnes"
Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS	22 Apr 2005 10:14:57 AM

In article <1114151798.366633.86240@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Ricky Ticket wrote:

On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 2:00:08 -0400, osprey wrote
(in message <1114149608.179489.153610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>):

If you are going to be dramatic, at least get it right.

I said, people emailed me on the "program" part.

Liar, what you said is EXACTLY...

<BEGIN EVIDENCE>

"David Barnes hatred towards correctional officers is obvious, he

served

time, I have copies of his record and his time served. He was a

problem

inmate as well, and was unable to complete his program. So his

hatred,

I can see where it is coming from. It sounds, although I can't

prove

it, Ricky may have the same reasons."

<END EVIDENCE>

You really are playing right into my hand dipshit and showing EXACTLY

how

dishonest you really are and EXACTLY why you are unfit to be

supervising

inmates. You're dishonesty is a liability and the state will see that

clearly. If they don't, maybe the local papers will make them jump

with an

investigative report. Yes, I am not just attacking in one direction,

a good

warrior always has a backup plan. :o)

Well, let me be the first to say good luck on your quest...:o)

Why so dishonest, you don�t wish me luck. What would Jesus do? :o)

Excellent demonstration and it also shows why you are on the list.

I am "on the list" because you decided to pull me into your little

world

where you are "investigating" people and making posts about your

findings

(see above). Mentioning my name and attempting to lump me in with

others was

a mistake dipshit. They may let you get away with it, I won't and I

will use

your own posts (some made from state computers) to bring you down.

You are thinking of "libel." And you are wrong.

Now, you claim to be so hot on "professionalism". Let me display you
are a hypocrite. How am I going to do that? That's easy, I am going to
ask you some questions about Barnes. You will turn your head and look
the other way.

Barnes claims he is a lawyer.

I am.

Do lawyers have a code of ethics?
Yes, they do

YES - We do.

Can lawyers lose their license if they are unethical?
Yes, they can

So?

Is lying unethical?
Yes, it is

Actually, it is not. But since I never lied, what is the relevance?

Now, Barnes has made several claims about me for several years and I
have a very detailed list of his hateful comments about correcitonal
officers as well.

Just you and they weren't "hateful." Merely accurate.

Is he professional for making false claims about me?
Such as

Claiming people emailed him things about me? (He never got any emails)

How could you possibly know that? Denial?

Claiming I was reprimanded? (that is not true)

I said I was told you were reprimanded by two correctional officers.
Denial?

Making up phoney emails, emailing them to himself, and claiming they
were sent by me?

LIE

Saying I applied for a sheriff's position and was denied? (that never
happened)

I said I was told that by two correctional officers. Denial?

Those are just a few of his claims he has been lying about in this
newsgroup for more than two years.

So, are you a hypocrite and going to ignore that?

You are in DENIAL. Everything I said is true. And even if it wasn't,
it isn't "unethical," just stupid.
Osprey always falls back on, "Sure I do unprofessional things! Sure I
lie! Sure I am scum! But other people do it too!" (And usually,
those "other people" don't do it.)
.

User: "Ricky Ticket"
Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS	22 Apr 2005 02:01:54 AM

On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 2:36:38 -0400, osprey wrote
(in message <1114151798.366633.86240@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>):

This may be fun and games to you Rickie, but you might want to be very
careful.

Is that a threat officer?

You are showing your own immaturity and that goes against your
credibility, especially if you are showing these post to anyone. You
are showing you are having a little tantrum.

Hardly, what I am showing EXACTLY is that you are a dishonest person that has
made some scary claims with regard to your position in the DE. State dept. of
corrections.

Now, you are claiming to go to the newspapers. Well, you do what you
want to do. But let me say this, newspapers require your name and
slander can get you in a whole world of trouble.

The best defense to a slander action (actually I think you mean liable), is
the truth. You know nothing of the truth so I'm sure that goes over your
head. You asked for evidence, I showed you the path to your own post with
date, time and exact quote showing that what I claim is true. It was VERY
easy and perfect in it's form. There is no slander or liable action that
could defeat truth and in fact you would end up paying for TWO LAWYERS and a
punitive penalty for such a spurious action.
The simple fact that you changed gears from "do you have evidence?" to "be
careful" and intimating legal action thrills me to no end you lying, pompous,
sack of *****. :o)
Maybe you should seek counsel and have them review your posting history to
see if you have anything to worry about. You don't seem aware of what you
have posted over the years. Or maybe you think it's all been deleted, or not
easily accessed? :o)
<Snipped childlike attempt to change the topic>
<BEGIN EVIDENCE>
"David Barnes hatred towards correctional officers is obvious, he
served time, I have copies of his record and his time served. He was a
problem inmate as well, and was unable to complete his program. So his
hatred, I can see where it is coming from. It sounds, although I can't
prove it, Ricky may have the same reasons."
<END EVIDENCE>
.

User: "osprey"
Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS	22 Apr 2005 02:26:26 AM

Ricky Ticket wrote:

On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 2:36:38 -0400, osprey wrote
(in message <1114151798.366633.86240@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>):

This may be fun and games to you Rickie, but you might want to be

very

careful.

Is that a threat officer?

The only one who has made any threats, is you. Just be prepared that
you don't bite off more than you can chew, and I will leave it at that.

You are showing your own immaturity and that goes against your
credibility, especially if you are showing these post to anyone.

You

are showing you are having a little tantrum.

Hardly, what I am showing EXACTLY is that you are a dishonest person

that has

made some scary claims with regard to your position in the DE. State

dept. of

corrections.

That is totally untrue.

Now, you are claiming to go to the newspapers. Well, you do what

you

want to do. But let me say this, newspapers require your name and
slander can get you in a whole world of trouble.

The best defense to a slander action (actually I think you mean

liable), is

the truth. You know nothing of the truth so I'm sure that goes over

your

head. You asked for evidence, I showed you the path to your own post

with

date, time and exact quote showing that what I claim is true.

It was made on a personal computer and was no different than the person
who claims to be a lawyer and his claims. So if you are going to point
fingers, why are you showing your hypocrisy now?
It was VERY

easy and perfect in it's form. There is no slander or liable action

that

could defeat truth and in fact you would end up paying for TWO

LAWYERS and a

punitive penalty for such a spurious action.

You really are foolish and sounding childish. Big talk for such a small
person.

The simple fact that you changed gears from "do you have evidence?"

to "be

careful" and intimating legal action thrills me to no end you lying,

pompous,

sack of *****. :o)

Maybe you should seek counsel and have them review your posting

history to

see if you have anything to worry about. You don't seem aware of what

you

have posted over the years. Or maybe you think it's all been deleted,

or not

easily accessed? :o)

<Snipped childlike attempt to change the topic>

<BEGIN EVIDENCE>

"David Barnes hatred towards correctional officers is obvious, he
served time, I have copies of his record and his time served. He was

problem inmate as well, and was unable to complete his program. So

his

hatred, I can see where it is coming from. It sounds, although I

can't

prove it, Ricky may have the same reasons."

<END EVIDENCE>

Made on a personal computer, and information emailed by people who know
Barnes. Due to Barnes showing these post to other people, those people
felt compelled to tell the truth. It is apparent that many people who
know Barnes do not like him and what he does, so they emailed the truth
and asked that their identities be kept secret.
Now Rickie, ask Barnes if that sounds familiar.
And as I noted in my previous post, Rickie has shown her true colors by
showing her hypcrosy and ignoring the things Barnes has said MANY times
in this newsgroup.
.

User: "David W. Barnes"
Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS	22 Apr 2005 08:24:45 PM

In article <1114154786.428324.311660@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Ricky Ticket wrote:

On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 2:36:38 -0400, osprey wrote
(in message <1114151798.366633.86240@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>):

This may be fun and games to you Rickie, but you might want to be

very

careful.

Is that a threat officer?

The only one who has made any threats, is you. Just be prepared that
you don't bite off more than you can chew, and I will leave it at that.

And that is all you will ever do.

You are showing your own immaturity and that goes against your
credibility, especially if you are showing these post to anyone.

You

are showing you are having a little tantrum.

Hardly, what I am showing EXACTLY is that you are a dishonest person

that has

made some scary claims with regard to your position in the DE. State

dept. of

corrections.

That is totally untrue.

Osprey thinks that makes it untrue.

Now, you are claiming to go to the newspapers. Well, you do what

you

want to do. But let me say this, newspapers require your name and
slander can get you in a whole world of trouble.

The best defense to a slander action (actually I think you mean

liable), is

the truth. You know nothing of the truth so I'm sure that goes over

your

head. You asked for evidence, I showed you the path to your own post

with

date, time and exact quote showing that what I claim is true.

It was made on a personal computer and was no different than the person
who claims to be a lawyer and his claims. So if you are going to point
fingers, why are you showing your hypocrisy now?

How so (if you really believe they are the same.)

It was VERY

easy and perfect in it's form. There is no slander or liable action

that

could defeat truth and in fact you would end up paying for TWO

LAWYERS and a

punitive penalty for such a spurious action.

You really are foolish and sounding childish. Big talk for such a small
person.

The simple fact that you changed gears from "do you have evidence?"

to "be

careful" and intimating legal action thrills me to no end you lying,

pompous,

sack of *****. :o)

Maybe you should seek counsel and have them review your posting

history to

see if you have anything to worry about. You don't seem aware of what

you

have posted over the years. Or maybe you think it's all been deleted,

or not

problem inmate as well, and was unable to complete his program. So

his

hatred, I can see where it is coming from. It sounds, although I

can't

prove it, Ricky may have the same reasons."

<END EVIDENCE>

Made on a personal computer, and information emailed by people who know
Barnes.

Except Barnes isn't my real name. Explain that...

Due to Barnes showing these post to other people, those people
felt compelled to tell the truth. It is apparent that many people who
know Barnes do not like him and what he does, so they emailed the truth
and asked that their identities be kept secret.

What is my name?

Now Rickie, ask Barnes if that sounds familiar.

No need. It DOES sound familiar. Which proves you made it up.

And as I noted in my previous post, Rickie has shown her true colors by
showing her hypcrosy and ignoring the things Barnes has said MANY times
in this newsgroup.

What "things?"
.

User: "Ricky Ticket"
Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS	22 Apr 2005 03:17:12 AM

On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 3:26:26 -0400, osprey wrote
(in message <1114154786.428324.311660@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>):

Ricky Ticket wrote:

On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 2:36:38 -0400, osprey wrote
(in message <1114151798.366633.86240@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>):

This may be fun and games to you Rickie, but you might want to be

very

careful.

Is that a threat officer?

The only one who has made any threats, is you. Just be prepared that
you don't bite off more than you can chew, and I will leave it at that.

The "evidence" shows otherwise dipshit. I made a clear promise to write your
supervision and the local papers in your area with my opinion about you
gleamed from your dishonest, threatening, anti social posts spread out all
over the internet while you represent yourself as a moral follower of jesus
Christ wearing the uniform of the DE. stat department of corrections.
I promised to show them that you are claiming to use dept. resources and or
your position as a corrections officer to make claims about the criminal
history of people that disagree with you on the internet.
I still make that promise. :o)
You on the other hand, appear to have made a vague threat that includes
learning my name and a "slander" action. :o)
Lets just hope you did it on shift. I don't think the good people of DE. will
like that. :o)

what I am showing EXACTLY is that you are a dishonest person
that has made some scary claims with regard to your position
in the DE. State dept. of corrections.

That is totally untrue.

Prove it. You made a claim I lied, now prove it! I showed you the clear path
to back up my claim, but here it is again just because I know it bothers you.
:o)

<BEGIN EVIDENCE>

"David Barnes hatred towards correctional officers is obvious, he
served time, I have copies of his record and his time served.
He was a problem inmate as well, and was unable to complete his
program. So his hatred, I can see where it is coming from.
It sounds, although I can't prove it, Ricky may have the same reasons."

<END EVIDENCE>

It was made on a personal computer and was no different than the person
who claims to be a lawyer and his claims.

First of all, I am not making any claims to be a lawyer, so drop your
fixation on other peopleand try to stay focused. You have a bigger problem
now that you made the mistake of addressing me.
You sometimes start a lie on a state computer, you sometimes finish a lie on
one. But you ALWAYS show your inability to control yourself emotionally and
you ALWAYS show your willingness to lie and manipulate truth to meet your
needs.
It is my opinion that a personality such as yours is dangerous and highly
likely to make false and misleading official reports and or to abuse your
position of authority over the "convicts" you appear to show serious disdain
for.
What computer you used to post your lies and your implied abuses of DE. state
corrections dept. databases is irrelevant. The dishonest, threatening,
abusive nature of your public interactions while holding yourself out as a
DE. State corrections officer is the salient point.
<Snipped childlike attempt to change the topic>
.

User: "David W. Barnes"
Title: Re: ABORTION --- and WHEN Human Life BEGINS	22 Apr 2005 10:17:13 AM

In article <0001HW.BE8E2B710002D2C51ED15500@news.east.earthlink.net>,
Ricky Ticket <not@given.com> wrote:

On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 3:26:26 -0400, osprey wrote
(in message <1114154786.428324.311660@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>):

Ricky Ticket wrote:

On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 2:36:38 -0400, osprey wrote
(in message <1114151798.366633.86240@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>):

This may be fun and games to you Rickie, but you might want to be

very

careful.

Is that a threat officer?

The only one who has made any threats, is you. Just be prepared that
you don't bite off more than you can chew, and I will leave it at that.

The "evidence" shows otherwise dipshit. I made a clear promise to write your
supervision and the local papers in your area with my opinion about you
gleamed from your dishonest, threatening, anti social posts spread out all
over the internet while you represent yourself as a moral follower of jesus
Christ wearing the uniform of the DE. stat department of corrections.

I promised to show them that you are claiming to use dept. resources and or
your position as a corrections officer to make claims about the criminal
history of people that disagree with you on the internet.

I still make that promise. :o)

You on the other hand, appear to have made a vague threat that includes
learning my name and a "slander" action. :o)

Lets just hope you did it on shift. I don't think the good people of DE. will
like that. :o)

what I am showing EXACTLY is that you are a dishonest person
that has made some scary claims with regard to your position
in the DE. State dept. of corrections.

That is totally untrue.

Prove it. You made a claim I lied, now prove it! I showed you the clear path
to back up my claim, but here it is again just because I know it bothers you.
:o)

<BEGIN EVIDENCE>

"David Barnes hatred towards correctional officers is obvious, he
served time, I have copies of his record and his time served.
He was a problem inmate as well, and was unable to complete his
program. So his hatred, I can see where it is coming from.
It sounds, although I can't prove it, Ricky may have the same reasons."

<END EVIDENCE>

It was made on a personal computer and was no different than the person
who claims to be a lawyer and his claims.

First of all, I am not making any claims to be a lawyer, so drop your
fixation on other peopleand try to stay focused. You have a bigger problem
now that you made the mistake of addressing me.

You sometimes start a lie on a state computer, you sometimes finish a lie on
one. But you ALWAYS show your inability to control yourself emotionally and
you ALWAYS show your willingness to lie and manipulate truth to meet your
needs.

It is my opinion that a personality such as yours is dangerous and highly
likely to make false and misleading official reports and or to abuse your
position of authority over the "convicts" you appear to show serious disdain
for.

What computer you used to post your lies and your implied abuses of DE. state
corrections dept. databases is irrelevant. The dishonest, threatening,
abusive nature of your public interactions while holding yourself out as a
DE. State corrections officer is the salient point.

<Snipped childlike attempt to change the topic>

Ricky: I AM a lawyer and if you'd like to discuss this, let me know.
I don't use my real name, and Osprey claims he knows all this about me
but doesn't even know may name. If you have an interest in this issue,
let me know and we can discuss it.
.