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"duke" |
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14 Nov 2004 07:05:46 AM |
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Abortion - Ultimate Act of Selfishness |
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/facts/abortionstats.html
Abortion in the United States: Statistics and Trends
The Consequences of Roe v. Wade
44,670,812 Total Abortions since 1973
The ultimate act of selfishness - butchering one's own unborn for one's own comfort and
convenience.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
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| User: "GoDrex" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion - Ultimate Act of Selfishness |
15 Nov 2004 09:58:11 PM |
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Why, why, why, why, why is it, that most of the people who are against
abortion, are people you wouldn't want to ***** in the first place? Huh? Huh?
Huh? Boy these conservatives are really something, aren't they? They're
all in favor of the unborn. They will do anything for the unborn, but once
you're born, you're on your own! Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with
the fetus, from conception to 9 months. After that they don't want to know
about you. They don't want to hear from you, No nothin'! No neo-natal
care, no day care, no HeadStart, no school lunch, no food stamps, no
welfare, no nothin'! If you're preborn you're fine, if you're preschool,
you're fucked! You're fucked! Conservatives don't care about you until you
reach, military age. Then they think you are just fine. Just what they've
been looking for. Conservatives want live babies, so they can raise them to
be dead soldiers.
Pro-life. Pro-life. These people aren't pro-life, they're killing,
doctors! What kind of pro-life is that? What, they'll do anything they can
to save a fetus but if it grows up to a Doctor they just might have to kill
it? They aren't pro-life, they're anti-woman, simple as it gets,
anti-woman. They don't like women. They believe that a woman's primary role
is to function as a brood-mare for the state. Pro-life. You don't see many
of these white anti-abortion women volunteering to have any black fetuses
transplanted into their uteruses, do you? Nah, you don't see them adopting
a whole lot of crack-babies, do you? Nah, that might be something Christ
would do!
And, you won't see, you won't see, alot of these pro-life people dousing
themselves in kerosene and lighting themselves on fire! You know, morally
religious committed people in south Vietnam, knew how to stage a god-damned
demonstration, didn't they, huh? They knew how to put on a fuckin' protest!
Light yourself on fire! Come on you moral crusaders, let's see a little
smoke, to match that fire in your belly.
Here's another question I have. How come when it's us, it's an abortion,
and when it's a chicken, it's an omelette? Are we so much better than
chickens all of a sudden? When did this happen, that we passed chickens in
goodness. Name 6 ways we're better than chickens. See, nobody can do it!
You know why? 'Cause chickens are decent people. You don't see chickens
hanging around in drug gangs, do you? No, you don't see a chicken strapping
some guy into a chair and hooking up his nuts to a car battery, do you?
When's the last chicken you heard about come home from work and beat the
***** out of his hen, huh? Doesn't happen, 'cause chickens are decent
people.
But let's get back to this abortion *****. Now, is a fetus a human being?
This seems to be the central question. Well, if the fetus is a human being,
how come the census doesn't count them? If a fetus is a human being, how
come if there's a miscarriage there isn't a funeral? If a fetus is a human
being, how come people say "we have 2 children and 1 on the way" instead of
saying "we have 3 children"? People say life begins at conception, I say
life began about a billion years ago and it's a continuous process!
Continuous, just keeps rolling along! Rolling, rolling, rolling along!
And say, you know something? Listen, you can go back further than that!
What about the carbon atoms, huh? Human life could not exist without
carbon! So is it just possible that maybe we shouldn't be burning all this
coal? Just looking for a little consistency here in these anti-abortion
arguments. See the really hard-core people will tell you that life begins at
fertilization. Fertilization, when the sperm fertilizes the egg. Which is
usually a few moments after the man says "Gee honey, I was going to pull out
but the phone rang and it startled me."
Fertilization. But even after the egg is fertilized, it's still 6 or 7 days
before the egg reaches the uterus, and pregnancy begins, and not every egg
makes it that far! 80% of a woman's fertilized eggs are rinsed and flushed
out of her body once a month during those delightful few days she has. They
wind up on sanitary napkins, and yet they are fertilized eggs! So basically
what these anti-abortion people are telling us is that any woman who's had
more than 1 period is a serial killer!
Consistency. Consistency. Hey, hey, if they really want to get serious
what about all the sperm that are wasted when the state executes a condemned
man and one of these pro-life guys who's watching comes in his pants, huh?
Here's a guy standing over there with his jockey shorts full of little
'Vinnies' and 'Debbies', and nobody's saying a word to the guy! Not every
ejaculation deserves a name!
Now. Speaking of consistency. Catholics, which I was, until I reached the
age of reason, Catholics, and other Christians are against abortions and
they're against homosexuals. Well who has less abortions than homosexuals?
Leave these fucking people alone, for Christ's sake! Here's an entire class
of people that's guaranteed never to have an abortion! And the Catholics
and Christians are just tossing them aside! You'd think they'd make natural
allies!
Go look for consistency in religion. And speaking of my friends the
Catholics, when John Cardinal O'Conner, and some of these
other Cardinals and Bishops have experienced their first pregnancies, and
their first labor pains, and they've raised a couple of children on minimum
wage, then I'll be glad to hear what they have to say about abortion! I'm
sure it would be interesting! Enlightening too. But, in the mean time what
they ought to be doing is telling these priests who took a vow of chastity
to keep their hands off the alter boys. Keep your hands to yourself,
Father! Ya know? When Jesus said "suffer the little children come unto me",
that's not what he was talking about!!
So you know what I tell these anti-abortion people? I say, "Hey, hey, if
you think a fetus is more important than a woman, try getting a fetus to
wash the ***** stains out of your underwear - for no pay and no pension.
Think of abortion as term limits. That's all it is, biological term limits.
But you know, the longer you listen to this abortion debate, the more you
hear this phrase, 'sanctity of life'. You've heard that, 'Sanctity of
life'. You believe in it? Personally, I think it's a bunch of *****. Well
I mean, life is sacred? Who said so, God? If you read history, you find
that God is one of the leading causes of death! Has been, for thousands of
years! Hindus, Moslems, Jews, Christians, all taking turns killing each
other cause God told 'em it was a good idea. The sword of God, the blood of
the lamb, vengeance is mine. Millions of dead mother-fuckers. Millions of
dead mother-fuckers, all because they gave the wrong answer to the God
question. "Do you believe in God?" "No" Pfft, dead! "Do you believe in
God?" "Yes" "Do you believe in my god?" "No" Pfft, dead! My God has a
bigger *****, than your God! That's all it is!
Thousands of years, thousands of years, and all the best wars too, the
bloodiest most brutal wars fought, all based on religious hatred. Which is
fine with me, hey any time a bunch of holy people want to kill each other,
I'm a happy guy! But don't be giving me all this ***** about the sanctity of
life. I mean even if there were such a thing, I don't think it's something
you can blame on God. No you know where the sanctity of life came from? We
made it up! You know why? 'Cause we're alive! Self-interest. Living
people have a strong interest in promoting the idea that somehow life is
sacred!
You don't see Abbot and Costello running around talking about this *****, do
you? We aren't hearing a whole lot from Mussolini on the subject. What's
the latest from JFK? Not a god-damn thing. 'Cause JFK, Mussolini, and
Abbot and Costello are fuckin' dead. They're fuckin' dead. And dead people
give less than a ***** about the sanctity of life. Only living people care
about it so the whole thing grows out of a completely biased point-of-view!
It's a self-serving, man made ***** story! It's one of these things we
tell ourselves so we'll feel noble. Life is sacred. Makes you feel noble.
Let me ask you this, if everything that ever lived is dead, and everything
alive is gonna die, where's the sacred part come in? I'm having trouble
with that. 'Cause I mean, even with this stuff we preach about the sanctity
of life, we don't practice it. We don't practice it! Look at what we kill,
mosquitos and flies *'cause they're pests*. Lions and Tigers *'cause it's
fun*! Chickens and pigs *'cause we're hungry*. Pheasants and quail *'cause
it's fun! and we're hungry.* And people, We kill people, *'cause they're
pests, and it's fun*!
And you might of noticed something else, the sanctity of life doesn't seem
to apply to cancer cells, does it? You rarely see a bumper sticker that
says "Save The Tumors" or "I Break For Advanced Melanoma". Nah, viruses,
mold, mildew, maggots, fungus, weeds, ecoli bacteria, the crabs, nothing
sacred about those things! So at best, the sanctity of life is kind of a
selective thing. We get to choose which forms of life we feel are sacred,
and we get to kill the rest. Pretty neat deal, huh? You know how we got
it? We made the whole fucking thing up! Made it up! The same way we made up
the
death penalty. We made them both up, sanctity of life and the death
penalty, aren't we versatile? - George Carlin
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| User: "kathryn" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion - Ultimate Act of Selfishness |
16 Nov 2004 02:24:36 PM |
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"GoDrex" <godrex35@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Why, why, why, why, why is it, that most of the people who are against
abortion, are people you wouldn't want to ***** in the first place? Huh?
Huh?
Huh? Boy these conservatives are really something, aren't they? They're
all in favor of the unborn. They will do anything for the unborn, but once
you're born, you're on your own!
Unless of course they happen to get the secretary knocked up and then
they're all for it.
Kathryn
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion - Ultimate Act of Selfishness |
17 Nov 2004 05:31:50 AM |
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On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 20:24:36 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <bob@bob.com> wrote:
Unless of course they happen to get the secretary knocked up and then
they're all for it.
Kathryn
And it's still a trip to hell for all eternity.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Lawrence Seib" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion - Ultimate Act of Selfishness |
17 Nov 2004 01:13:56 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message news:<jkdmp0psal53h3ig921v444l9rskjptueu@4ax.com>...
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 20:24:36 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <bob@bob.com> wrote:
Unless of course they happen to get the secretary knocked up and then
they're all for it.
Kathryn
And it's still a trip to hell for all eternity.
That is not even in the Bible.
Larry
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| User: "Ike" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion - Ultimate Act of Selfishness |
14 Nov 2004 12:34:33 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3plep0hmfosd8vocdq2e6ncfamvfukg137@4ax.com...
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/facts/abortionstats.html
Abortion in the United States: Statistics and Trends
The Consequences of Roe v. Wade
44,670,812 Total Abortions since 1973
The ultimate act of selfishness - butchering one's own unborn for one's
own comfort and
convenience.
duke
Roe vs. Wade doesn't cause abortions. Abortion is a technology, not a law.
The ultimate cause of abortion is male unemployment. Unemployment is part of
regulating population growth. It also contributes to war genocide and
violent criminal acts. The effect on the abortion rate is that without an
employed male father, the prospective mother is more likely to wnat to
terminate the pregnancy. Nearly all women have a powerful desire to bear
children, but that desire is often damped by practicalities of trying to
care for children who may be doomed to slavery or uselessness in society.
--
Freedom of thought entails no "Intellectual Property".
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion - Ultimate Act of Selfishness |
14 Nov 2004 03:06:42 PM |
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 18:34:33 GMT, "Ike" <accordiondoc@mindspring.com> wrote:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3plep0hmfosd8vocdq2e6ncfamvfukg137@4ax.com...
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/facts/abortionstats.html
Abortion in the United States: Statistics and Trends
The Consequences of Roe v. Wade
44,670,812 Total Abortions since 1973
The ultimate act of selfishness - butchering one's own unborn for one's
own comfort and
convenience.
duke
Roe vs. Wade doesn't cause abortions. Abortion is a technology, not a law.
And we're out to overturn that law that allows abortions without suitable penalty for
murder.
The ultimate cause of abortion is male unemployment. Unemployment is part of
regulating population growth. It also contributes to war genocide and
violent criminal acts. The effect on the abortion rate is that without an
employed male father, the prospective mother is more likely to wnat to
terminate the pregnancy. Nearly all women have a powerful desire to bear
children, but that desire is often damped by practicalities of trying to
care for children who may be doomed to slavery or uselessness in society.
Abortion is the ultimate act of selfishness.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion - Ultimate Act of Selfishness |
14 Nov 2004 07:14:47 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 18:34:33 GMT, "Ike" <accordiondoc@mindspring.com>
wrote:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3plep0hmfosd8vocdq2e6ncfamvfukg137@4ax.com...
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/facts/abortionstats.html
Abortion in the United States: Statistics and Trends
The Consequences of Roe v. Wade
44,670,812 Total Abortions since 1973
The ultimate act of selfishness - butchering one's own unborn for one's
own comfort and
convenience.
duke
Roe vs. Wade doesn't cause abortions. Abortion is a technology, not a
law.
And we're out to overturn that law that allows abortions without suitable
penalty for
murder.
That would be a simple fine, according to your precious bible.
The ultimate cause of abortion is male unemployment. Unemployment is part
of
regulating population growth. It also contributes to war genocide and
violent criminal acts. The effect on the abortion rate is that without an
employed male father, the prospective mother is more likely to wnat to
terminate the pregnancy. Nearly all women have a powerful desire to bear
children, but that desire is often damped by practicalities of trying to
care for children who may be doomed to slavery or uselessness in society.
Abortion is the ultimate act of selfishness.
Salvation is the ultimate act of selfishness.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion - Ultimate Act of Selfishness |
15 Nov 2004 05:39:46 AM |
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:14:47 -0600, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
And we're out to overturn that law that allows abortions without suitable
penalty for
murder.
That would be a simple fine, according to your precious bible.
No, I think 10-20 years in the pen for the abortionists.
Abortion is the ultimate act of selfishness.
Salvation is the ultimate act of selfishness.
I'll let God decide.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Don Kresch" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion - Ultimate Act of Selfishness |
15 Nov 2004 06:24:05 AM |
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In alt.atheism on Mon, 15 Nov 2004 05:39:46 -0600, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> let us all know that:
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:14:47 -0600, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
And we're out to overturn that law that allows abortions without suitable
penalty for
murder.
That would be a simple fine, according to your precious bible.
No, I think 10-20 years in the pen for the abortionists.
You truly are demented. You think that not wanting to be a slave
is a bad thing.
Don
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aa #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde
Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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| User: "duke" |
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15 Nov 2004 05:26:57 PM |
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 06:24:05 -0600, Don Kresch <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:
In alt.atheism on Mon, 15 Nov 2004 05:39:46 -0600, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> let us all know that:
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:14:47 -0600, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
And we're out to overturn that law that allows abortions without suitable
penalty for
murder.
That would be a simple fine, according to your precious bible.
No, I think 10-20 years in the pen for the abortionists.
You truly are demented. You think that not wanting to be a slave
is a bad thing.
Ten to twenty in the pen is fair for those that would butcher the human unborn.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Mark Stahl" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion - Ultimate Act of Selfishness |
16 Nov 2004 04:25:31 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:loeip0tt9dq9lj24rifeh8kb7vgjgjcgur@4ax.com...
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 06:24:05 -0600, Don Kresch
<ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:
In alt.atheism on Mon, 15 Nov 2004 05:39:46 -0600, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> let us all know that:
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:14:47 -0600, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
And we're out to overturn that law that allows abortions without
suitable
penalty for
murder.
That would be a simple fine, according to your precious bible.
No, I think 10-20 years in the pen for the abortionists.
You truly are demented. You think that not wanting to be a slave
is a bad thing.
Ten to twenty in the pen is fair for those that would butcher the human
unborn.
Since the usual outcome for a fertilized egg is a failure to develop to
term, that would put virtually every woman of childbearing age in prison,
moron.
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| User: "duke" |
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17 Nov 2004 04:43:13 AM |
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On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 17:25:31 -0500, "Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote:
Since the usual outcome for a fertilized egg is a failure to develop to
term, that would put virtually every woman of childbearing age in prison,
moron.
No, women are not guilty of elective abortion there. That's the difference between kill
and murder - intent.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion - Ultimate Act of Selfishness |
17 Nov 2004 12:18:02 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 17:25:31 -0500, "Mark Stahl"
<stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote:
Since the usual outcome for a fertilized egg is a failure to develop to
term, that would put virtually every woman of childbearing age in prison,
moron.
No, women are not guilty of elective abortion there. That's the
difference between kill
and murder - intent.
But their death is part of your god's plan, no? So obviously the god
intended them to die, right?
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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17 Nov 2004 06:18:27 PM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 17:25:31 -0500, "Mark Stahl"
<stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote:
Since the usual outcome for a fertilized egg is a failure to develop
to term, that would put virtually every woman of childbearing age in
prison, moron.
No, women are not guilty of elective abortion there. That's the
difference between kill
and murder - intent.
But their death is part of your god's plan, no? So obviously the god
intended them to die, right?
D'ya get the feeling Earl thinks abortion didn't exist before 1972?
--
Dr. Smartass -- BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
*sig broken; watch for finger*
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| User: "duke" |
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18 Nov 2004 05:21:00 AM |
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On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:18:02 -0600, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
No, women are not guilty of elective abortion there. That's the
difference between kill
and murder - intent.
But their death is part of your god's plan, no? So obviously the god
intended them to die, right?
No.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Mark Stahl" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion - Ultimate Act of Selfishness |
17 Nov 2004 04:33:43 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:unamp0dlsr6gs4403ifhohpf0tjm5p2j87@4ax.com...
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 17:25:31 -0500, "Mark Stahl"
<stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote:
Since the usual outcome for a fertilized egg is a failure to develop to
term, that would put virtually every woman of childbearing age in prison,
moron.
No, women are not guilty of elective abortion there. That's the
difference between kill
and murder - intent.
So they're at least guilty of manslaughter then? A somewhat lesser jail term
or....?
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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17 Nov 2004 04:36:08 PM |
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In article <sIKdnXt5E8izTAbcRVn-1Q@giganews.com> "Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> writes:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:unamp0dlsr6gs4403ifhohpf0tjm5p2j87@4ax.com...
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 17:25:31 -0500, "Mark Stahl"
<stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote:
Since the usual outcome for a fertilized egg is a failure to develop to
term, that would put virtually every woman of childbearing age in prison,
moron.
No, women are not guilty of elective abortion there. That's the
difference between kill
and murder - intent.
So they're at least guilty of manslaughter then? A somewhat lesser jail term
or...?
Oh, the women aren't culpable at all.
They aren't the ones who designed their bodies to slough off all
these babies.
-- cary
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| User: "duke" |
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18 Nov 2004 05:23:12 AM |
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On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 17:33:43 -0500, "Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote:
No, women are not guilty of elective abortion there. That's the
difference between kill
and murder - intent.
So they're at least guilty of manslaughter then? A somewhat lesser jail term
or....?
No, if a child suddenly darts from behind a car into your car's path and you kill him,
it's not murder. And no penalty is extracted from you for killing him.
Too bad it may very well take something like that for you to turn to God.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Mark Stahl" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion - Ultimate Act of Selfishness |
18 Nov 2004 10:45:32 AM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 17:33:43 -0500, "Mark Stahl"
<stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote:
No, women are not guilty of elective abortion there. That's the
difference between kill
and murder - intent.
So they're at least guilty of manslaughter then? A somewhat lesser jail
term
or....?
No, if a child suddenly darts from behind a car into your car's path and
you kill him,
it's not murder.
Right. It's vehicular manslaughter.
And no penalty is extracted from you for killing him.
Wrong. It most certainly is.
Too bad it may very well take something like that for you to turn to God.
Perhaps getting hit by a car and becoming severely brain damaged would cause
me to worship imaginary objects and such, but I certainly hope not.
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| User: "duke" |
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19 Nov 2004 05:24:23 AM |
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On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:45:32 -0500, "Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote:
No, if a child suddenly darts from behind a car into your car's path and
you kill him,
it's not murder.
Right. It's vehicular manslaughter.
No it's not. It's an unavoidable accident. No penalty except in your gut.
And no penalty is extracted from you for killing him.
Wrong. It most certainly is.
Nope.
Too bad it may very well take something like that for you to turn to God.
Perhaps getting hit by a car and becoming severely brain damaged would cause
me to worship imaginary objects and such, but I certainly hope not.
It's your funeral, not mine, thank God.
duke
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14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
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| User: "Don Kresch" |
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17 Nov 2004 05:13:47 PM |
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In alt.atheism on Wed, 17 Nov 2004 04:43:13 -0600, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> let us all know that:
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 17:25:31 -0500, "Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote:
Since the usual outcome for a fertilized egg is a failure to develop to
term, that would put virtually every woman of childbearing age in prison,
moron.
No, women are not guilty of elective abortion there.
It's still abortion. Can't make exceptions.
Don
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aa #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde
Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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| User: "duke" |
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18 Nov 2004 05:24:08 AM |
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On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 23:13:47 GMT, Don Kresch <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:
No, women are not guilty of elective abortion there.
It's still abortion. Can't make exceptions.
Nope, in civil courts and in moral courts, intent is decisive.
duke
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| User: "Don Kresch" |
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18 Nov 2004 09:36:30 AM |
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In alt.atheism on Thu, 18 Nov 2004 05:24:08 -0600, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> let us all know that:
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 23:13:47 GMT, Don Kresch <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:
No, women are not guilty of elective abortion there.
It's still abortion. Can't make exceptions.
Nope, in civil courts and in moral courts, intent is decisive.
Nope, it's abortion. Can't make exceptions.
Don
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Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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| User: "duke" |
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19 Nov 2004 05:26:01 AM |
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On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 15:36:30 GMT, Don Kresch <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:
Nope, in civil courts and in moral courts, intent is decisive.
Nope, it's abortion. Can't make exceptions.
Intent is the determinant. That's why people of God serve in the military and police, and
God approves. Intent is the issue.
duke
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| User: "Don Kresch" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion - Ultimate Act of Selfishness |
19 Nov 2004 06:24:48 AM |
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In alt.atheism on Fri, 19 Nov 2004 05:26:01 -0600, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> let us all know that:
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 15:36:30 GMT, Don Kresch <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:
Nope, in civil courts and in moral courts, intent is decisive.
Nope, it's abortion. Can't make exceptions.
Intent is the determinant.
It's an abortion. Can't make exceptions.
Don
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aa #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde
Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
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Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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| User: "Don Kresch" |
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15 Nov 2004 05:51:28 PM |
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In alt.atheism on Mon, 15 Nov 2004 17:26:57 -0600, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> let us all know that:
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 06:24:05 -0600, Don Kresch <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:
In alt.atheism on Mon, 15 Nov 2004 05:39:46 -0600, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> let us all know that:
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:14:47 -0600, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
And we're out to overturn that law that allows abortions without suitable
penalty for
murder.
That would be a simple fine, according to your precious bible.
No, I think 10-20 years in the pen for the abortionists.
You truly are demented. You think that not wanting to be a slave
is a bad thing.
Ten to twenty in the pen is fair for those that would butcher the human unborn.
You are truly demented. You think that not wanting to be a slave
is a crime. Sickening.
Don
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Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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| User: "duke" |
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17 Nov 2004 04:41:52 AM |
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 17:51:28 -0600, Don Kresch <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:
No, I think 10-20 years in the pen for the abortionists.
You truly are demented. You think that not wanting to be a slave
is a bad thing.
Ten to twenty in the pen is fair for those that would butcher the human unborn.
You are truly demented. You think that not wanting to be a slave
is a crime. Sickening.
No slave, just held responsible for her actions in butchering another for her own comfort
and convenience.
Mankind is the only animal capable of such genocide. And because mankind is the only
animal capable of doing such a thing, mankind is the only animal to be called upon by God
to exhibit higher conscience of such atrocities that it, mankind, would elect to reject
doing such a thing.
At least, some of us recognize this calling and respond to love of humankind.
You jerks call for saving the whales, but butcher the human unborn instead.
duke
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17 Nov 2004 12:16:27 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:8eamp0hmevnkb5eqn8l6emf1bis16h4s1h@4ax.com...
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 17:51:28 -0600, Don Kresch
<ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:
No, I think 10-20 years in the pen for the abortionists.
You truly are demented. You think that not wanting to be a slave
is a bad thing.
Ten to twenty in the pen is fair for those that would butcher the human
unborn.
You are truly demented. You think that not wanting to be a slave
is a crime. Sickening.
No slave, just held responsible for her actions in butchering another for
her own comfort
and convenience.
You mean like you dodge responsibility for your sins by having Jesus as your
savior?
Mankind is the only animal capable of such genocide.
Nope, you're wrong again, as many have pointed out. You remain, as always,
determinedly ignorant of the facts.
And because mankind is the only
animal capable of doing such a thing, mankind is the only animal to be
called upon by God
to exhibit higher conscience of such atrocities that it, mankind, would
elect to reject
doing such a thing.
Other animals do it, so you're simply wrong.
At least, some of us recognize this calling and respond to love of
humankind.
But not you.
You jerks call for saving the whales, but butcher the human unborn
instead.
You look forward to judgement day where EVERYONE dies. Don't fucking presume
to think we'll buy your fake crocodile tears for one minute, you lying
sinner.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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17 Nov 2004 06:17:31 PM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
news:K6WdneWX9sDmCAbcRVn-vQ@io.com:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:8eamp0hmevnkb5eqn8l6emf1bis16h4s1h@4ax.com...
You jerks call for saving the whales, but butcher the human unborn
instead.
You look forward to judgement day where EVERYONE dies. Don't fucking
presume to think we'll buy your fake crocodile tears for one minute,
you lying sinner.
He's a thief, too--he owes $500.00 to Yang.
Y'know, if I were medical-minded, I'd go to med-school just to become an
abortion provider, just to ***** Earl off. =D
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Dr. Smartass -- BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
*sig broken; watch for finger*
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| User: "duke" |
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18 Nov 2004 05:19:13 AM |
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On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:16:27 -0600, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
No slave, just held responsible for her actions in butchering another for
her own comfort
and convenience.
You mean like you dodge responsibility for your sins by having Jesus as your
savior?
I AM responsible for my sins, and only gives me a chance, not a free ticket.
But you don't understand that. One day when you grow up you might.
Mankind is the only animal capable of such genocide.
Nope, you're wrong again, as many have pointed out. You remain, as always,
determinedly ignorant of the facts.
Say what? No animal except man elects to commit genocide on it's own unborn.
Other animals do it, so you're simply wrong.
No they don't. They don't have the conscience to know the difference. Mankind does, and
is the only animal to do so.
At least, some of us recognize this calling and respond to love of
humankind.
But not you.
Are you sure you're following this conversation?
You jerks call for saving the whales, but butcher the human unborn
instead.
You look forward to judgement day where EVERYONE dies. Don't fucking presume
to think we'll buy your fake crocodile tears for one minute, you lying
sinner.
Everyone dies???? No, the opposite is true. It's well evident you don't understand this
conversation.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
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