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20 May 2006 09:47:30 PM |
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Abortion as Birth Control |
This is why most sensible people realize that legal restrictions need be put
into place that will protect millions of children from needless slaughter.
The answer to the birth control question is a little self-restraint and alot
of self-respect; not abortion.
http://www.cwfa.org/articles/10589/BLI/dotcommentary/index.htm
Abortion is no longer primarily an act of teenage desperation; instead, more
and more it is the calculated choice of adults unwilling to accept
responsibility for their behavior. Abortion is becoming more "rare" among
the nation's teens, but a larger percentage of women in their mid to late
20s -- women who are supposed to be responsible, mature and informed -- are,
to put it bluntly, using abortion as a form of birth control.
Sensible people are glad to see that teen abortions are declining
dramatically and that the total number of abortions is also declining. The
abstinence message is getting through to teens, and sonogram technology is
making possible increased awareness of the humanity of those babies in the
womb.
It is also good news that between 1994 and 1998, the number of abortion
clinics in the United States decreased by more than 40 percent simply
because not enough doctors are willing to provide the abortions and fewer
women are asking for them. In addition, more and more doctors are refusing
to perform abortions and many medical students are declining to become
licensed for the procedure.
While abortion clinics are closing because of the decline in business,
Pregnancy Resource Centers (PRCs) are springing up everywhere. In 1980,
there were only 500 across the nation. By 1990 there were 2,000, and now
there are at least 4,000.
That's the good news on the abortion front.
The bad news is that abortions to women over 25 have risen dramatically.
Over the past decade, the percentage has grown from 35 percent of the total
number of abortions to more than 48 percent in 2000. This contrasts with
teen abortions, which have declined during the same period, and abortions to
women 20-24, which have remained stable at about one-third of the total.
The real shocker, though, is that it is more common for women to have repeat
abortions (some four or more) and to have abortions after already giving
birth to living children. Obviously, 25-year-old women and women who are
already mothers should know how to exercise self-control and to use
contraceptives responsibly and effectively.
According to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, 6 million American women become
pregnant every year - almost half of them unmarried. The abortion rate for
unmarried women is four times greater than that of married women. Obviously,
these women engage in irresponsible and risky sexual behavior with men who
are poor candidates for marriage and even worse candidates for fatherhood.
Of those 3 million unmarried pregnant women, almost half have an abortion
and almost half become single mothers. Very few of them marry the father of
their child or give the child up for adoption.
Sadly, abortion has made it easier for irresponsible men to turn their backs
on women and the children they conceive. Ironically, though, most unmarried
women are living with the man who fathered their child. Nevertheless, they
do not even consider marriage and never consider releasing the child for
adoption to a couple on the long lists of those desperate to have a child.
Many women would not consider marrying because they "have to," and they
think that giving a child up for adoption is "cruel." Yet, it is not
considered cruel to abort an "unwanted" child that the man is unwilling to
support.
During the time that the number of repeat abortions has been increasing, the
number of women who choose abortion for the first time has decreased very
steadily. Women who had not previously had a live birth accounted for 90
percent of the decline in the number of abortions from 1990 to 2000 -- only
40 percent of all abortions. By the late 1990s, though, more than 45 percent
of all abortions were being performed on women with previous abortions. By
the year 2000, the share of abortions accounted for by women with children
increased to 60 percent of the total.
In summary, over the past couple of decades, abortion has enabled women to
engage in sexual activity without marriage or any other commitment --
regardless of whether either person is able or willing to commit to a
permanent relationship and regardless of whether either person is willing or
able to take responsibility for the consequences. That's the driving force
behind the so-called "pro-choice"
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J Young
youngopinions@aol.com
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion as Birth Control |
21 May 2006 12:05:35 AM |
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<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
This is why most sensible people realize that legal restrictions need be put
into place that will protect millions of children from needless slaughter.
They alreday exist, you fundy lunatic.
The answer to the birth control question is a little self-restraint and alot
of self-respect; not abortion.
The anti-sex anti-woman prudery that's typical of religious
fundamentalists.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Lupinus" |
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22 May 2006 05:36:09 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
The answer to the birth control question is a little self-restraint and alot
of self-respect; not abortion.
The anti-sex anti-woman prudery that's typical of religious
fundamentalists.
Why is it that the anti-abortion lobby always appears inextricably tied
to also being anti-contraception? It doesn't seem logical, as levels of
contraception in a society inversely affect the number of unwanted
pregnancies, and so the need/wish for abortion. I personally think
abortion is a bad thing (ducks, runs for cover), but I also think the
obvious way to stop people recoursing to them is for everyone to have
access to free, effective contraception* and bother to use the damn
things. Then they wouldn't get pregnant in the first place, yes?
And quite what it has to do with marriage I have no idea. Anyone would
think that a wedding ring is the only indicator of a serious/long-term
relationship.
* Yes, I know there are cases when contraception fails. But it's not
really that often, if used correctly. Yes, I also know there are cases
where pregnancy results from rape, or where there is a serious danger
to the life of the mother resulting from medical problems with the
pregnancy. I admit I haven't decided quite what my stance is on these
cases, but at least I'm thinking about it rather than just accepting
what it says in the Da Vinci Code, or one of those other books about
religion that some people believe in.
Lupinus
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| User: "Joseph Welch" |
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20 May 2006 11:14:44 PM |
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<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:a4WdnTXgycNcSfLZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com...
This is why most sensible people realize that legal restrictions need be
put
into place that will protect millions of children from needless slaughter.
Children are already protected from needless slaughter - in this country,
anyway.
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George W. Bush has made the terrorists stronger, their influence wider,
their numbers larger, and their motivation to attack the U.S. and other
western interests greater. He has repeatedly abused his authority and
violated his Oath of Office by turning his back on the United States
Constitution; thereby surrendering to the terrorists by underming American
freedoms,values, and the very foundations of our system of government.
Supporting Bush is treason.
***************
JW
***************
"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have
you left no sense of decency?"
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/welch-mccarthy.html
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| User: "John Deer" |
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20 May 2006 11:39:16 PM |
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On Sat, 20 May 2006 21:14:44 -0700, "Joseph Welch"
<seattledemocracy@freewebspace.com> wrote:
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:a4WdnTXgycNcSfLZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com...
This is why most sensible people realize that legal restrictions need be
put
into place that will protect millions of children from needless slaughter.
Children are already protected from needless slaughter - in this country,
I can not kill them.
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| User: "Pastor Kutchie" |
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20 May 2006 10:35:38 PM |
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wrote:
the calculated choice of adults unwilling to accept
responsibility for their behavior.
What's wrong with this picture?
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| User: "Malcolm" |
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21 May 2006 03:08:25 AM |
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"Pastor Kutchie" <user13@heathens.org.uk> wrote
youngopinions@aol.com wrote:
the calculated choice of adults unwilling to accept
responsibility for their behavior.
What's wrong with this picture?
How about asking the irresonsible adults whether there is anything wrong
with their lives?
--
Buy my book 12 Common Atheist Arguments (refuted)
$1.25 download or $7.20 paper, available www.lulu.com/bgy1mm
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion by definition is Birth Control, you fool |
20 May 2006 10:07:59 PM |
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In article <a4WdnTXgycNcSfLZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
youngopinions@aol.com says...
This is why most sensible people realize
Well, that certainly couldn't include you then. Abortion is the ultimate
form of "birth control" and no, we will not let you re-enslave women.
You derive your power by stealing it from the groups you oppress, such as
women. The CrapLick church has proven that it cannot be trusted with
power and therefore their insane, multi-decade crusade against abortion
will end in failure.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "duke" |
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21 May 2006 07:29:10 AM |
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On Sat, 20 May 2006 21:07:59 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
The CrapLick church has proven that it cannot be trusted with
power and therefore their insane, multi-decade crusade against abortion
will end in failure.
Boy, are you a dumb *****. My Church has no power, and God will take care of the
abortion queens.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion by definition is Birth Control, you fool |
21 May 2006 07:08:30 PM |
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In article <37n072hdbjlnthibl2ml2emk6vgcokpd4b@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...
On Sat, 20 May 2006 21:07:59 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
The CrapLick church has proven that it cannot be trusted with
power and therefore their insane, multi-decade crusade against abortion
will end in failure.
Boy, are you a dumb *****.
You certainly are, you mirror mumbling moron.
My Church has no power,
Not anymore, which is what I said. They showed that they couldn't be
trusted with power and therefore their power was removed.
and God will take care of the
abortion queens.
Considering that there were almost 1 billion abortions in the last
century, your god has failed, as imaginary beings always do.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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21 May 2006 12:10:56 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 20 May 2006 21:07:59 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
The CrapLick church has proven that it cannot be trusted with
power and therefore their insane, multi-decade crusade against abortion
will end in failure.
Boy, are you a dumb *****.
One of you is, and I'm guessing it's you.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "duke" |
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21 May 2006 03:32:21 PM |
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On 21 May 2006 17:10:56 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 20 May 2006 21:07:59 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
The CrapLick church has proven that it cannot be trusted with
power and therefore their insane, multi-decade crusade against abortion
will end in failure.
Boy, are you a dumb *****.
One of you is, and I'm guessing it's you.
Nope, quib is the #3 dumbest person on the ng.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "quibbler" |
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21 May 2006 07:09:40 PM |
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In article <4ij172l8i4tfaclhg36bi5fdqnsdrs5mem@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...
On 21 May 2006 17:10:56 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 20 May 2006 21:07:59 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
The CrapLick church has proven that it cannot be trusted with
power and therefore their insane, multi-decade crusade against abortion
will end in failure.
Boy, are you a dumb *****.
One of you is, and I'm guessing it's you.
Nope, quib is the #3 dumbest person on the ng.
Nope, dipshit dookie is a proven retard and I have superhuman
intelligence compared to you.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "duke" |
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22 May 2006 05:30:49 PM |
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On Sun, 21 May 2006 18:09:40 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <4ij172l8i4tfaclhg36bi5fdqnsdrs5mem@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...
On 21 May 2006 17:10:56 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 20 May 2006 21:07:59 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
The CrapLick church has proven that it cannot be trusted with
power and therefore their insane, multi-decade crusade against abortion
will end in failure.
Boy, are you a dumb *****.
One of you is, and I'm guessing it's you.
Nope, quib is the #3 dumbest person on the ng.
Nope, dipshit dookie is a proven retard and I have superhuman
intelligence compared to you.
But you can't eloquate it.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion by definition is Birth Control, you fool |
22 May 2006 06:42:38 PM |
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In article <7se472h7f6075odmsk8k4gkjbn7rvueu8d@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...
On Sun, 21 May 2006 18:09:40 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <4ij172l8i4tfaclhg36bi5fdqnsdrs5mem@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...
On 21 May 2006 17:10:56 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 20 May 2006 21:07:59 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
The CrapLick church has proven that it cannot be trusted with
power and therefore their insane, multi-decade crusade against abortion
will end in failure.
Boy, are you a dumb *****.
One of you is, and I'm guessing it's you.
Nope, quib is the #3 dumbest person on the ng.
Nope, dipshit dookie is a proven retard and I have superhuman
intelligence compared to you.
But you can't eloquate it.
You constantly make an ***** out of yourself. Step away from the neologism
generator. I speak and write far better than you ever could.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "duke" |
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23 May 2006 05:45:14 PM |
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On Mon, 22 May 2006 17:42:38 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
Nope, dipshit dookie is a proven retard and I have superhuman
intelligence compared to you.
But you can't eloquate it.
You constantly make an ***** out of yourself. Step away from the neologism
generator. I speak and write far better than you ever could.
But you never show it.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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21 May 2006 03:41:20 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 20 May 2006 21:07:59 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
The CrapLick church has proven that it cannot be trusted with
power and therefore their insane, multi-decade crusade against abortion
will end in failure.
Boy, are you a dumb *****.
One of you is, and I'm guessing it's you.
Nope, quib is the #3 dumbest person on the ng.
Nah. Heishman and Johnny and you are in the top three.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "duke" |
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22 May 2006 05:30:24 PM |
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On 21 May 2006 20:41:20 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 20 May 2006 21:07:59 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
The CrapLick church has proven that it cannot be trusted with
power and therefore their insane, multi-decade crusade against abortion
will end in failure.
Boy, are you a dumb *****.
One of you is, and I'm guessing it's you.
Nope, quib is the #3 dumbest person on the ng.
Nah. Heishman and Johnny and you are in the top three.
nope, I much more learned than you re the bible.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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22 May 2006 10:48:53 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 20 May 2006 21:07:59 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
The CrapLick church has proven that it cannot be trusted with
power and therefore their insane, multi-decade crusade against abortion
will end in failure.
Boy, are you a dumb *****.
One of you is, and I'm guessing it's you.
Nope, quib is the #3 dumbest person on the ng.
Nah. Heishman and Johnny and you are in the top three.
nope, I much more learned than you re the bible.
You'll have to try harder than that to make it into the top three.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "duke" |
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23 May 2006 05:44:25 PM |
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On 23 May 2006 03:48:53 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 20 May 2006 21:07:59 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
The CrapLick church has proven that it cannot be trusted with
power and therefore their insane, multi-decade crusade against abortion
will end in failure.
Boy, are you a dumb *****.
One of you is, and I'm guessing it's you.
Nope, quib is the #3 dumbest person on the ng.
Nah. Heishman and Johnny and you are in the top three.
nope, I much more learned than you re the bible.
You'll have to try harder than that to make it into the top three.
In this ng, I am the top. You atheists are really dumb.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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23 May 2006 09:49:54 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 20 May 2006 21:07:59 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
The CrapLick church has proven that it cannot be trusted with
power and therefore their insane, multi-decade crusade against abortion
will end in failure.
Boy, are you a dumb *****.
One of you is, and I'm guessing it's you.
Nope, quib is the #3 dumbest person on the ng.
Nah. Heishman and Johnny and you are in the top three.
nope, I much more learned than you re the bible.
You'll have to try harder than that to make it into the top three.
In this ng, I am the top.
Not quite. You'll have to try a little harder if you want to be at
the top of the dumbest poster list.
You atheists are really dumb.
But I will admit that you're making a valiant effort to appear
to be really stupid.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "duke" |
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24 May 2006 05:59:12 PM |
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On 24 May 2006 02:49:54 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
nope, I much more learned than you re the bible.
You'll have to try harder than that to make it into the top three.
In this ng, I am the top.
Not quite. You'll have to try a little harder if you want to be at
the top of the dumbest poster list.
The discussion matter is that I am more learned.
You atheists are really dumb.
But I will admit that you're making a valiant effort to appear
to be really stupid.
Your ignorance of God is extraordinarily magnified.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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25 May 2006 11:36:40 AM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
nope, I much more learned than you re the bible.
You'll have to try harder than that to make it into the top three.
In this ng, I am the top.
Not quite. You'll have to try a little harder if you want to be at
the top of the dumbest poster list.
The discussion matter is that I am more learned.
LOL! Keep trying!
You atheists are really dumb.
But I will admit that you're making a valiant effort to appear
to be really stupid.
Your ignorance of God is extraordinarily magnified.
Pretending to be religious while disregarding your religion isn't
original enough. Even people with ordinary stupidity manage as
much. And random non sequiturs don't count for much for the same
reason.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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24 May 2006 06:07:27 PM |
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duke wrote:
On 24 May 2006 02:49:54 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
nope, I much more learned than you re the bible.
You'll have to try harder than that to make it into the top three.
In this ng, I am the top.
Not quite. You'll have to try a little harder if you want to be at
the top of the dumbest poster list.
The discussion matter is that I am more learned.
....says the guy who couldn't even google up the percentage of Christians
in the country.
You atheists are really dumb.
But I will admit that you're making a valiant effort to appear
to be really stupid.
Your ignorance of God is extraordinarily magnified.
It only appears so to the ignorant. :)
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--sexkitten--
I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: 'O Lord, make
my enemies ridiculous.' And God granted it.
-Voltaire
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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23 May 2006 05:55:03 PM |
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duke wrote:
On 23 May 2006 03:48:53 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 20 May 2006 21:07:59 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
The CrapLick church has proven that it cannot be trusted with
power and therefore their insane, multi-decade crusade against abortion
will end in failure.
Boy, are you a dumb *****.
One of you is, and I'm guessing it's you.
Nope, quib is the #3 dumbest person on the ng.
Nah. Heishman and Johnny and you are in the top three.
nope, I much more learned than you re the bible.
You'll have to try harder than that to make it into the top three.
In this ng, I am the top. You atheists are really dumb.
Methinks he doth protest too much.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: 'O Lord, make
my enemies ridiculous.' And God granted it.
-Voltaire
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| User: "Al Smith" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion by definition is Birth Control, you fool |
20 May 2006 10:38:57 PM |
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quibbler wrote:
In article <a4WdnTXgycNcSfLZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
youngopinions@aol.com says...
This is why most sensible people realize
Well, that certainly couldn't include you then. Abortion is the ultimate
form of "birth control" and no, we will not let you re-enslave women.
What if a woman realizes as her twins are totally embracing the
"terrible twos" she doesn't want to be a slave anymore? What is her
recourse then?
What if a man doesn't want to be a father and demands the women get an
abortion, but she wont? How does he avoid being a cash-cow slave for
the next 18 years?
You derive your power by stealing it from the groups you oppress,
This doesn't make sense. You're a LQQN.
such as
women. The CrapLick church has proven that it cannot be trusted with
power and therefore their insane, multi-decade crusade against abortion
will end in failure.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion by definition is Birth Control, you fool |
22 May 2006 02:56:20 PM |
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"Al Smith" <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1148182737.190000.264670@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
quibbler wrote:
In article <a4WdnTXgycNcSfLZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
youngopinions@aol.com says...
This is why most sensible people realize
Well, that certainly couldn't include you then. Abortion is the ultimate
form of "birth control" and no, we will not let you re-enslave women.
What if a woman realizes as her twins are totally embracing the
"terrible twos" she doesn't want to be a slave anymore? What is her
recourse then?
Relinquishment of her parental rights and put the kids up for adoption.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "Geopelia" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion by definition is Birth Control, you fool |
22 May 2006 05:07:12 PM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:4dej5uF1abt3sU1@individual.net...
"Al Smith" <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1148182737.190000.264670@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
quibbler wrote:
In article <a4WdnTXgycNcSfLZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
youngopinions@aol.com says...
This is why most sensible people realize
Well, that certainly couldn't include you then. Abortion is the
ultimate
form of "birth control" and no, we will not let you re-enslave women.
What if a woman realizes as her twins are totally embracing the
"terrible twos" she doesn't want to be a slave anymore? What is her
recourse then?
Relinquishment of her parental rights and put the kids up for adoption.
--
Robyn
Wouldn't she need her husband's consent for that?
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion by definition is Birth Control, you fool |
23 May 2006 09:42:15 AM |
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"Geopelia" <phildoran@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
news:e4tcgt$btt$1@emma.aioe.org...
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:4dej5uF1abt3sU1@individual.net...
"Al Smith" <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1148182737.190000.264670@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
quibbler wrote:
In article <a4WdnTXgycNcSfLZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
youngopinions@aol.com says...
This is why most sensible people realize
Well, that certainly couldn't include you then. Abortion is the
ultimate
form of "birth control" and no, we will not let you re-enslave women.
What if a woman realizes as her twins are totally embracing the
"terrible twos" she doesn't want to be a slave anymore? What is her
recourse then?
Relinquishment of her parental rights and put the kids up for adoption.
--
Robyn
Wouldn't she need her husband's consent for that?
Absolutely.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion by definition is Birth Control, you fool |
20 May 2006 10:43:03 PM |
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Al Smith wrote:
quibbler wrote:
In article <a4WdnTXgycNcSfLZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
youngopinions@aol.com says...
This is why most sensible people realize
Well, that certainly couldn't include you then. Abortion is the ultimate
form of "birth control" and no, we will not let you re-enslave women.
What if a woman realizes as her twins are totally embracing the
"terrible twos" she doesn't want to be a slave anymore? What is her
recourse then?
Give custody to the father and leave.
Hand them off to a family member or adoptive family, and leave.
Hire a nanny.
That's off the top of my head.
What if a man doesn't want to be a father and demands the women get an
abortion, but she wont? How does he avoid being a cash-cow slave for
the next 18 years?
That's being worked on in the courts now.
You derive your power by stealing it from the groups you oppress,
This doesn't make sense. You're a LQQN.
It makes perfect sense, and is backed up by centuries of church history.
such as
women. The CrapLick church has proven that it cannot be trusted with
power and therefore their insane, multi-decade crusade against abortion
will end in failure.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
--
--sexkitten--
I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: 'O Lord, make
my enemies ridiculous.' And God granted it.
-Voltaire
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion by definition is Birth Control, you fool |
21 May 2006 11:41:22 PM |
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--sexkitten-- wrote:
Al Smith wrote:
quibbler wrote:
In article <a4WdnTXgycNcSfLZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
youngopinions@aol.com says...
This is why most sensible people realize
Well, that certainly couldn't include you then. Abortion is the ultimate
form of "birth control" and no, we will not let you re-enslave women.
What if a woman realizes as her twins are totally embracing the
"terrible twos" she doesn't want to be a slave anymore? What is her
recourse then?
Give custody to the father and leave.
Hand them off to a family member or adoptive family, and leave.
Hire a nanny.
That's off the top of my head.
Shouldn't our laws be re-written so she can have medical procedure take
them away? Wouldn't that be a lot easier since the options you listed
above wouldn't always be possible?
What if a man doesn't want to be a father and demands the women get an
abortion, but she wont? How does he avoid being a cash-cow slave for
the next 18 years?
That's being worked on in the courts now.
What should the outcome be? Above, you said one of the options a woman
can have is to give custody to the father. What if he doesn't want it?
She can abandon the baby at a ER, can't she - but then society becomes
a slave of this unwanted, unwelcomed child.
You derive your power by stealing it from the groups you oppress,
This doesn't make sense. You're a LQQN.
It makes perfect sense, and is backed up by centuries of church history.
Can you explain?
such as
women. The CrapLick church has proven that it cannot be trusted with
power and therefore their insane, multi-decade crusade against abortion
will end in failure.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
--
--sexkitten--
I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: 'O Lord, make
my enemies ridiculous.' And God granted it.
-Voltaire
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