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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "J Young"
Date: 26 Feb 2006 02:11:30 PM
Object: Abortion is all about sex
http://bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?ID=22732
by Kelly Boggs
ALEXANDRIA, La. (BP)--Pro-abortion activists have long maintained that
abortion in America is about a woman's "right to choose." They are correct.
Abortion in the United States is about the right of a woman -- or teenage
girl in too many cases -- to choose to have sex without any regard for the
"negative" repercussion of pregnancy.
In a recent Village Voice column, Rachel Kramer Bussel highlighted the
pro-sex aspect of the abortion debate. She wrote, "I'm pro-choice because I
couldn't fully enjoy sex were I'm consumed with worry about the potential
consequences."
Bussel's sentiment is consistent with statistics on abortion motives.
According to several surveys on why women choose abortion in the U.S.,
around 90 percent of respondents indicate their reason for aborting their
unborn child was based on some aspect of convenience.
If, and when, you hear pro-abortionists squawk about abortion being about
the health of a woman, ignore them. Abortion in America is not about women's
health, it is about a woman's sexual independence.
Bussel, a senior editor at Penthouse Variations and a columnist for
Penthouse magazine, also writes the Village Voice's regular "Lusty Lady"
column and reviews books for The New York Post. She links the pro-abortion
movement with other activist groups.
"We need to safeguard all forms of consensual sexual expression, including
sodomy and kink, for 'choice' to truly matter," Bussel wrote in the Village
Voice piece. "The pro-choice movement and the GLBT movement should work
together to ensure our right to sexual autonomy."
I do not know how much official cooperation takes place between homosexual
activists and proponents of abortion. However, I do know that I have never
witnessed a pro-abortion rally that did not have a strong presence of
homosexual activists participating.
What do homosexual activists have in common with pro-abortion activists?
"Gay" activists seek to legitimize homosexual behavior by promoting a view
of sexuality that is completely severed from procreation.
Homosexual activists have a vested interest in convincing society that
reproduction and sexual intercourse are somehow mutually exclusive. Bussel
not only understands the link, but is one of the few willing to admit it.
Bussel wrote in the Village Voice, "People have sex for many reasons --
pleasure, boredom, curiosity, peer pressure, and, yes, baby-making." What
Bussel and activists -- both homosexual and pro-abortion -- miss is that
procreation is the main purpose of sex and not just one of many reasons.
No doubt sex is pleasurable; however, pregnancy is the natural outcome of
sex. It is not just something to engage in when bored, curious or seeking
pleasure. If the primary purpose of sex was anything other than procreation,
pregnancy would not be the result.
Sadly, the success of activists in divorcing sex from procreation has
resulted in the death of more than 47 million pre-born babies. It has also
laid the foundation for a sexual ethic that has managed to compartmentalize
intercourse from reproduction and made both seem mutually exclusive of one
another. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Sexual intimacy is the consummation of a life-long promise to be faithful to
one's marital spouse, as well as a commitment to the probable consequence of
intercourse -- a child. Thanks to abortion supporters, far too many in
America now view sexual intercourse as nothing more than a
no-strings-attached recreational pursuit.
--
"Honesty, Integrity, Compassion, and Decency"
.

User: "Barbi Satin"

Title: Re: Abortion is all about sex 26 Feb 2006 02:27:45 PM
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:XvydnQvhxpD1lp_ZRVn-uQ@giganews.com...


http://bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?ID=22732



by Kelly Boggs



ALEXANDRIA, La. (BP)--Pro-abortion activists have long maintained that
abortion in America is about a woman's "right to choose." They are
correct.
Abortion in the United States is about the right of a woman -- or teenage
girl in too many cases -- to choose to have sex without any regard for the
"negative" repercussion of pregnancy.

In a recent Village Voice column, Rachel Kramer Bussel highlighted the
pro-sex aspect of the abortion debate. She wrote, "I'm pro-choice because
I
couldn't fully enjoy sex were I'm consumed with worry about the potential
consequences."

Bussel's sentiment is consistent with statistics on abortion motives.
According to several surveys on why women choose abortion in the U.S.,
around 90 percent of respondents indicate their reason for aborting their
unborn child was based on some aspect of convenience.

If, and when, you hear pro-abortionists squawk about abortion being about
the health of a woman, ignore them. Abortion in America is not about
women's
health, it is about a woman's sexual independence.

Bussel, a senior editor at Penthouse Variations and a columnist for
Penthouse magazine, also writes the Village Voice's regular "Lusty Lady"
column and reviews books for The New York Post. She links the pro-abortion
movement with other activist groups.

"We need to safeguard all forms of consensual sexual expression, including
sodomy and kink, for 'choice' to truly matter," Bussel wrote in the
Village
Voice piece. "The pro-choice movement and the GLBT movement should work
together to ensure our right to sexual autonomy."

I do not know how much official cooperation takes place between homosexual
activists and proponents of abortion. However, I do know that I have never
witnessed a pro-abortion rally that did not have a strong presence of
homosexual activists participating.

What do homosexual activists have in common with pro-abortion activists?
"Gay" activists seek to legitimize homosexual behavior by promoting a view
of sexuality that is completely severed from procreation.

Homosexual activists have a vested interest in convincing society that
reproduction and sexual intercourse are somehow mutually exclusive. Bussel
not only understands the link, but is one of the few willing to admit it.

Bussel wrote in the Village Voice, "People have sex for many reasons --
pleasure, boredom, curiosity, peer pressure, and, yes, baby-making." What
Bussel and activists -- both homosexual and pro-abortion -- miss is that
procreation is the main purpose of sex and not just one of many reasons.

No doubt sex is pleasurable; however, pregnancy is the natural outcome of
sex. It is not just something to engage in when bored, curious or seeking
pleasure. If the primary purpose of sex was anything other than
procreation,
pregnancy would not be the result.

Sadly, the success of activists in divorcing sex from procreation has
resulted in the death of more than 47 million pre-born babies. It has also
laid the foundation for a sexual ethic that has managed to
compartmentalize
intercourse from reproduction and made both seem mutually exclusive of one
another. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Sexual intimacy is the consummation of a life-long promise to be faithful
to
one's marital spouse, as well as a commitment to the probable consequence
of
intercourse -- a child. Thanks to abortion supporters, far too many in
America now view sexual intercourse as nothing more than a
no-strings-attached recreational pursuit.

You need to get laid badly *****!
.
User: "GW Chimpzillas Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia"

Title: Re: Abortion is all about sex 26 Feb 2006 03:54:06 PM
Barbi Satin wrote:


"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:XvydnQvhxpD1lp_ZRVn-uQ@giganews.com...


http://bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?ID=22732



by Kelly Boggs



ALEXANDRIA, La. (BP)--Pro-abortion activists have long maintained that
abortion in America is about a woman's "right to choose." They are
correct.
Abortion in the United States is about the right of a woman -- or teenage
girl in too many cases -- to choose to have sex without any regard for the
"negative" repercussion of pregnancy.

In a recent Village Voice column, Rachel Kramer Bussel highlighted the
pro-sex aspect of the abortion debate. She wrote, "I'm pro-choice because
I
couldn't fully enjoy sex were I'm consumed with worry about the potential
consequences."

Bussel's sentiment is consistent with statistics on abortion motives.
According to several surveys on why women choose abortion in the U.S.,
around 90 percent of respondents indicate their reason for aborting their
unborn child was based on some aspect of convenience.

If, and when, you hear pro-abortionists squawk about abortion being about
the health of a woman, ignore them. Abortion in America is not about
women's
health, it is about a woman's sexual independence.

Bussel, a senior editor at Penthouse Variations and a columnist for
Penthouse magazine, also writes the Village Voice's regular "Lusty Lady"
column and reviews books for The New York Post. She links the pro-abortion
movement with other activist groups.

"We need to safeguard all forms of consensual sexual expression, including
sodomy and kink, for 'choice' to truly matter," Bussel wrote in the
Village
Voice piece. "The pro-choice movement and the GLBT movement should work
together to ensure our right to sexual autonomy."

I do not know how much official cooperation takes place between homosexual
activists and proponents of abortion. However, I do know that I have never
witnessed a pro-abortion rally that did not have a strong presence of
homosexual activists participating.

What do homosexual activists have in common with pro-abortion activists?
"Gay" activists seek to legitimize homosexual behavior by promoting a view
of sexuality that is completely severed from procreation.

Homosexual activists have a vested interest in convincing society that
reproduction and sexual intercourse are somehow mutually exclusive. Bussel
not only understands the link, but is one of the few willing to admit it.

Bussel wrote in the Village Voice, "People have sex for many reasons --
pleasure, boredom, curiosity, peer pressure, and, yes, baby-making." What
Bussel and activists -- both homosexual and pro-abortion -- miss is that
procreation is the main purpose of sex and not just one of many reasons.

No doubt sex is pleasurable; however, pregnancy is the natural outcome of
sex. It is not just something to engage in when bored, curious or seeking
pleasure. If the primary purpose of sex was anything other than
procreation,
pregnancy would not be the result.

Sadly, the success of activists in divorcing sex from procreation has
resulted in the death of more than 47 million pre-born babies. It has also
laid the foundation for a sexual ethic that has managed to
compartmentalize
intercourse from reproduction and made both seem mutually exclusive of one
another. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Sexual intimacy is the consummation of a life-long promise to be faithful
to
one's marital spouse, as well as a commitment to the probable consequence
of
intercourse -- a child. Thanks to abortion supporters, far too many in
America now view sexual intercourse as nothing more than a
no-strings-attached recreational pursuit.


You need to get laid badly *****!

They have little or no libido.
--
There are only two kinds of Republicans: Millionaires and fools.
.
User: "Barbi Satin"

Title: Re: Abortion is all about sex 26 Feb 2006 04:41:18 PM
"GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia" <gw@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2spMf.824912$xm3.696753@attbi_s21...

Barbi Satin wrote:



You need to get laid badly *****!


They have little or no libido.
--
There are only two kinds of Republicans: Millionaires and fools.

I can't agree there. They have a normal libido. The problem is they are
so brainwashed by their little Jesus superstition that they go through life
in sexual misery. It turns them into snotty little assholes who live to deny
others any happiness or God forbid SEX!
.
User: "reality"

Title: Re: Abortion is all about sex 28 Feb 2006 05:45:36 PM
Barbi Satin wrote:

"GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia" <gw@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2spMf.824912$xm3.696753@attbi_s21...

Barbi Satin wrote:




You need to get laid badly *****!


They have little or no libido.
--
There are only two kinds of Republicans: Millionaires and fools.


I can't agree there. They have a normal libido. The problem is they are
so brainwashed by their little Jesus superstition that they go through life
in sexual misery. It turns them into snotty little assholes who live to deny
others any happiness or God forbid SEX!

Good points.
Also they still believe that they will go blind and their fingers will
fall off if they touch "it".
.
User: "Liz"

Title: Re: Abortion is all about sex 28 Feb 2006 05:53:16 PM
On 28 Feb 2006 15:45:36 -0800, "reality" <realitycheck@ausi.com> in
news message <1141170336.821473.129820@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
wrote:


Barbi Satin wrote:

"GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia" <gw@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2spMf.824912$xm3.696753@attbi_s21...

Barbi Satin wrote:




You need to get laid badly *****!


They have little or no libido.
--
There are only two kinds of Republicans: Millionaires and fools.


I can't agree there. They have a normal libido. The problem is they are
so brainwashed by their little Jesus superstition that they go through life
in sexual misery. It turns them into snotty little assholes who live to deny
others any happiness or God forbid SEX!


Good points.

Also they still believe that they will go blind and their fingers will
fall off if they touch "it".

What do they do when they take a shower? Wave the soap in the general
direction of their genitals?
Liz #658 BAAWA
We may have lost our moral compass but we still have our chaste
sextant, our modest flashlight, our ethical pen knife, and our
virtuous canteen. -- jwkinraleigh
.
User: "reality"

Title: Re: Abortion is all about sex 28 Feb 2006 06:24:35 PM
Liz wrote:

On 28 Feb 2006 15:45:36 -0800, "reality" <realitycheck@ausi.com> in
news message <1141170336.821473.129820@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
wrote:


Barbi Satin wrote:

"GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia" <gw@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2spMf.824912$xm3.696753@attbi_s21...

Barbi Satin wrote:




You need to get laid badly *****!


They have little or no libido.
--
There are only two kinds of Republicans: Millionaires and fools.


I can't agree there. They have a normal libido. The problem is they are
so brainwashed by their little Jesus superstition that they go through life
in sexual misery. It turns them into snotty little assholes who live to deny
others any happiness or God forbid SEX!


Good points.

Also they still believe that they will go blind and their fingers will
fall off if they touch "it".


What do they do when they take a shower? Wave the soap in the general
direction of their genitals?

You must have faith that the film of soap that separates your hand from
your "dirty parts" will protect you when you take a shower. Otherwise
hands off, you pervert.
"Touchee peepee is bad, bad, BAD!!" George W. Bush, State of the Union
Address, 2002
.

User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Abortion is all about sex 01 Mar 2006 07:35:28 PM
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 23:53:16 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in
alt.atheism

On 28 Feb 2006 15:45:36 -0800, "reality" <realitycheck@ausi.com> in
news message <1141170336.821473.129820@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
wrote:


Barbi Satin wrote:

"GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia" <gw@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2spMf.824912$xm3.696753@attbi_s21...

Barbi Satin wrote:

You need to get laid badly *****!


They have little or no libido.
--
There are only two kinds of Republicans: Millionaires and fools.


I can't agree there. They have a normal libido. The problem is they are
so brainwashed by their little Jesus superstition that they go through life
in sexual misery. It turns them into snotty little assholes who live to deny
others any happiness or God forbid SEX!


Good points.

Also they still believe that they will go blind and their fingers will
fall off if they touch "it".


What do they do when they take a shower?

Shower?

Wave the soap in the general
direction of their genitals?



Liz #658 BAAWA

We may have lost our moral compass but we still have our chaste
sextant, our modest flashlight, our ethical pen knife, and our
virtuous canteen. -- jwkinraleigh

--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
.






User: "bob young"

Title: Re: Abortion is all about sex 26 Feb 2006 11:14:02 PM
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J Young wrote:

http://bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?ID=22732

Sex is about every single one of us being here in the first place and the same
applies to the billions of other living creatures that the evolutionary process
caused.
Grow up Brother
Bob Young



by Kelly Boggs

ALEXANDRIA, La. (BP)--Pro-abortion activists have long maintained that
abortion in America is about a woman's "right to choose." They are correct.
Abortion in the United States is about the right of a woman -- or teenage
girl in too many cases -- to choose to have sex without any regard for the
"negative" repercussion of pregnancy.

In a recent Village Voice column, Rachel Kramer Bussel highlighted the
pro-sex aspect of the abortion debate. She wrote, "I'm pro-choice because I
couldn't fully enjoy sex were I'm consumed with worry about the potential
consequences."

Bussel's sentiment is consistent with statistics on abortion motives.
According to several surveys on why women choose abortion in the U.S.,
around 90 percent of respondents indicate their reason for aborting their
unborn child was based on some aspect of convenience.

If, and when, you hear pro-abortionists squawk about abortion being about
the health of a woman, ignore them. Abortion in America is not about women's
health, it is about a woman's sexual independence.

Bussel, a senior editor at Penthouse Variations and a columnist for
Penthouse magazine, also writes the Village Voice's regular "Lusty Lady"
column and reviews books for The New York Post. She links the pro-abortion
movement with other activist groups.

"We need to safeguard all forms of consensual sexual expression, including
sodomy and kink, for 'choice' to truly matter," Bussel wrote in the Village
Voice piece. "The pro-choice movement and the GLBT movement should work
together to ensure our right to sexual autonomy."

I do not know how much official cooperation takes place between homosexual
activists and proponents of abortion. However, I do know that I have never
witnessed a pro-abortion rally that did not have a strong presence of
homosexual activists participating.

What do homosexual activists have in common with pro-abortion activists?
"Gay" activists seek to legitimize homosexual behavior by promoting a view
of sexuality that is completely severed from procreation.

Homosexual activists have a vested interest in convincing society that
reproduction and sexual intercourse are somehow mutually exclusive. Bussel
not only understands the link, but is one of the few willing to admit it.

Bussel wrote in the Village Voice, "People have sex for many reasons --
pleasure, boredom, curiosity, peer pressure, and, yes, baby-making." What
Bussel and activists -- both homosexual and pro-abortion -- miss is that
procreation is the main purpose of sex and not just one of many reasons.

No doubt sex is pleasurable; however, pregnancy is the natural outcome of
sex. It is not just something to engage in when bored, curious or seeking
pleasure. If the primary purpose of sex was anything other than procreation,
pregnancy would not be the result.

Sadly, the success of activists in divorcing sex from procreation has
resulted in the death of more than 47 million pre-born babies. It has also
laid the foundation for a sexual ethic that has managed to compartmentalize
intercourse from reproduction and made both seem mutually exclusive of one
another. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Sexual intimacy is the consummation of a life-long promise to be faithful to
one's marital spouse, as well as a commitment to the probable consequence of
intercourse -- a child. Thanks to abortion supporters, far too many in
America now view sexual intercourse as nothing more than a
no-strings-attached recreational pursuit.

--
"Honesty, Integrity, Compassion, and Decency"

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<p>J Young wrote:
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Sex is about every single one of us being here in the first place and the
same applies to the billions of other living creatures that the evolutionary
process caused.
<p>Grow up Brother
<p>Bob Young
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><a href="http://bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?ID=22732"></a>&nbsp;
<p>by&nbsp; Kelly Boggs
<p>ALEXANDRIA, La. (BP)--Pro-abortion activists have long maintained that
<br>abortion in America is about a woman's "right to choose." They are
correct.
<br>Abortion in the United States is about the right of a woman -- or teenage
<br>girl in too many cases -- to choose to have sex without any regard
for the
<br>"negative" repercussion of pregnancy.
<p>In a recent Village Voice column, Rachel Kramer Bussel highlighted the
<br>pro-sex aspect of the abortion debate. She wrote, "I'm pro-choice because
I
<br>couldn't fully enjoy sex were I'm consumed with worry about the potential
<br>consequences."
<p>Bussel's sentiment is consistent with statistics on abortion motives.
<br>According to several surveys on why women choose abortion in the U.S.,
<br>around 90 percent of respondents indicate their reason for aborting
their
<br>unborn child was based on some aspect of convenience.
<p>If, and when, you hear pro-abortionists squawk about abortion being
about
<br>the health of a woman, ignore them. Abortion in America is not about
women's
<br>health, it is about a woman's sexual independence.
<p>Bussel, a senior editor at Penthouse Variations and a columnist for
<br>Penthouse magazine, also writes the Village Voice's regular "Lusty
Lady"
<br>column and reviews books for The New York Post. She links the pro-abortion
<br>movement with other activist groups.
<p>"We need to safeguard all forms of consensual sexual expression, including
<br>sodomy and kink, for 'choice' to truly matter," Bussel wrote in the
Village
<br>Voice piece. "The pro-choice movement and the GLBT movement should
work
<br>together to ensure our right to sexual autonomy."
<p>I do not know how much official cooperation takes place between homosexual
<br>activists and proponents of abortion. However, I do know that I have
never
<br>witnessed a pro-abortion rally that did not have a strong presence
of
<br>homosexual activists participating.
<p>What do homosexual activists have in common with pro-abortion activists?
<br>"Gay" activists seek to legitimize homosexual behavior by promoting
a view
<br>of sexuality that is completely severed from procreation.
<p>Homosexual activists have a vested interest in convincing society that
<br>reproduction and sexual intercourse are somehow mutually exclusive.
Bussel
<br>not only understands the link, but is one of the few willing to admit
it.
<p>Bussel wrote in the Village Voice, "People have sex for many reasons
--
<br>pleasure, boredom, curiosity, peer pressure, and, yes, baby-making."
What
<br>Bussel and activists -- both homosexual and pro-abortion -- miss is
that
<br>procreation is the main purpose of sex and not just one of many reasons.
<p>No doubt sex is pleasurable; however, pregnancy is the natural outcome
of
<br>sex. It is not just something to engage in when bored, curious or seeking
<br>pleasure. If the primary purpose of sex was anything other than procreation,
<br>pregnancy would not be the result.
<p>Sadly, the success of activists in divorcing sex from procreation has
<br>resulted in the death of more than 47 million pre-born babies. It has
also
<br>laid the foundation for a sexual ethic that has managed to compartmentalize
<br>intercourse from reproduction and made both seem mutually exclusive
of one
<br>another. Nothing could be further from the truth.
<p>Sexual intimacy is the consummation of a life-long promise to be faithful
to
<br>one's marital spouse, as well as a commitment to the probable consequence
of
<br>intercourse -- a child. Thanks to abortion supporters, far too many
in
<br>America now view sexual intercourse as nothing more than a
<br>no-strings-attached recreational pursuit.
<p>--
<br>"Honesty, Integrity, Compassion, and Decency"</blockquote>
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User: "•R.L.Measures•"

Title: Re: Abortion is all about sex 27 Feb 2006 03:48:20 AM
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J Young wrote:

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Sex is about every single one of us being here in the first place and the same
applies to the billions of other living creatures that the evolutionary process
caused.

• The exception is those of us who conceived in vitro -- and the holier
than thou fathers in Rome condemn that for some mysterious reason.


Grow up Brother

Bob Young



by Kelly Boggs

ALEXANDRIA, La. (BP)--Pro-abortion activists have long maintained that
abortion in America is about a woman's "right to choose." They are correct.
Abortion in the United States is about the right of a woman -- or teenage
girl in too many cases -- to choose to have sex without any regard for the
"negative" repercussion of pregnancy.

In a recent Village Voice column, Rachel Kramer Bussel highlighted the
pro-sex aspect of the abortion debate. She wrote, "I'm pro-choice because I
couldn't fully enjoy sex were I'm consumed with worry about the potential
consequences."

Bussel's sentiment is consistent with statistics on abortion motives.
According to several surveys on why women choose abortion in the U.S.,
around 90 percent of respondents indicate their reason for aborting their
unborn child was based on some aspect of convenience.

If, and when, you hear pro-abortionists squawk about abortion being about
the health of a woman, ignore them. Abortion in America is not about women's
health, it is about a woman's sexual independence.

Bussel, a senior editor at Penthouse Variations and a columnist for
Penthouse magazine, also writes the Village Voice's regular "Lusty Lady"
column and reviews books for The New York Post. She links the pro-abortion
movement with other activist groups.

"We need to safeguard all forms of consensual sexual expression, including
sodomy and kink, for 'choice' to truly matter," Bussel wrote in the Village
Voice piece. "The pro-choice movement and the GLBT movement should work
together to ensure our right to sexual autonomy."

I do not know how much official cooperation takes place between homosexual
activists and proponents of abortion. However, I do know that I have never
witnessed a pro-abortion rally that did not have a strong presence of
homosexual activists participating.

What do homosexual activists have in common with pro-abortion activists?
"Gay" activists seek to legitimize homosexual behavior by promoting a view
of sexuality that is completely severed from procreation.

Homosexual activists have a vested interest in convincing society that
reproduction and sexual intercourse are somehow mutually exclusive. Bussel
not only understands the link, but is one of the few willing to admit it.

Bussel wrote in the Village Voice, "People have sex for many reasons --
pleasure, boredom, curiosity, peer pressure, and, yes, baby-making." What
Bussel and activists -- both homosexual and pro-abortion -- miss is that
procreation is the main purpose of sex and not just one of many reasons.

No doubt sex is pleasurable; however, pregnancy is the natural outcome of
sex. It is not just something to engage in when bored, curious or seeking
pleasure. If the primary purpose of sex was anything other than procreation,
pregnancy would not be the result.

Sadly, the success of activists in divorcing sex from procreation has
resulted in the death of more than 47 million pre-born babies. It has also
laid the foundation for a sexual ethic that has managed to compartmentalize
intercourse from reproduction and made both seem mutually exclusive of one
another. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Sexual intimacy is the consummation of a life-long promise to be faithful to
one's marital spouse, as well as a commitment to the probable consequence of
intercourse -- a child. Thanks to abortion supporters, far too many in
America now view sexual intercourse as nothing more than a
no-strings-attached recreational pursuit.

--
"Honesty, Integrity, Compassion, and Decency"


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Sex is about every single one of us being here in the first place and the
same applies to the billions of other living creatures that the evolutionary
process caused.
<p>Grow up Brother
<p>Bob Young
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><a

href="http://bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?ID=22732"></a>&nbsp;

<p>by&nbsp; Kelly Boggs
<p>ALEXANDRIA, La. (BP)--Pro-abortion activists have long maintained that
<br>abortion in America is about a woman's "right to choose." They are
correct.
<br>Abortion in the United States is about the right of a woman -- or teenage
<br>girl in too many cases -- to choose to have sex without any regard
for the
<br>"negative" repercussion of pregnancy.
<p>In a recent Village Voice column, Rachel Kramer Bussel highlighted the
<br>pro-sex aspect of the abortion debate. She wrote, "I'm pro-choice because
I
<br>couldn't fully enjoy sex were I'm consumed with worry about the potential
<br>consequences."
<p>Bussel's sentiment is consistent with statistics on abortion motives.
<br>According to several surveys on why women choose abortion in the U.S.,
<br>around 90 percent of respondents indicate their reason for aborting
their
<br>unborn child was based on some aspect of convenience.
<p>If, and when, you hear pro-abortionists squawk about abortion being
about
<br>the health of a woman, ignore them. Abortion in America is not about
women's
<br>health, it is about a woman's sexual independence.
<p>Bussel, a senior editor at Penthouse Variations and a columnist for
<br>Penthouse magazine, also writes the Village Voice's regular "Lusty
Lady"
<br>column and reviews books for The New York Post. She links the pro-abortion
<br>movement with other activist groups.
<p>"We need to safeguard all forms of consensual sexual expression, including
<br>sodomy and kink, for 'choice' to truly matter," Bussel wrote in the
Village
<br>Voice piece. "The pro-choice movement and the GLBT movement should
work
<br>together to ensure our right to sexual autonomy."
<p>I do not know how much official cooperation takes place between homosexual
<br>activists and proponents of abortion. However, I do know that I have
never
<br>witnessed a pro-abortion rally that did not have a strong presence
of
<br>homosexual activists participating.
<p>What do homosexual activists have in common with pro-abortion activists?
<br>"Gay" activists seek to legitimize homosexual behavior by promoting
a view
<br>of sexuality that is completely severed from procreation.
<p>Homosexual activists have a vested interest in convincing society that
<br>reproduction and sexual intercourse are somehow mutually exclusive.
Bussel
<br>not only understands the link, but is one of the few willing to admit
it.
<p>Bussel wrote in the Village Voice, "People have sex for many reasons
--
<br>pleasure, boredom, curiosity, peer pressure, and, yes, baby-making."
What
<br>Bussel and activists -- both homosexual and pro-abortion -- miss is
that
<br>procreation is the main purpose of sex and not just one of many reasons.
<p>No doubt sex is pleasurable; however, pregnancy is the natural outcome
of
<br>sex. It is not just something to engage in when bored, curious or seeking
<br>pleasure. If the primary purpose of sex was anything other than

procreation,

<br>pregnancy would not be the result.
<p>Sadly, the success of activists in divorcing sex from procreation has
<br>resulted in the death of more than 47 million pre-born babies. It has
also
<br>laid the foundation for a sexual ethic that has managed to compartmentalize
<br>intercourse from reproduction and made both seem mutually exclusive
of one
<br>another. Nothing could be further from the truth.
<p>Sexual intimacy is the consummation of a life-long promise to be faithful
to
<br>one's marital spouse, as well as a commitment to the probable consequence
of
<br>intercourse -- a child. Thanks to abortion supporters, far too many
in
<br>America now view sexual intercourse as nothing more than a
<br>no-strings-attached recreational pursuit.
<p>--
<br>"Honesty, Integrity, Compassion, and Decency"</blockquote>
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User: "citysites"

Title: Re: Abortion is all about sex 26 Feb 2006 02:16:49 PM
Get your religion out of my government.
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User: "Johnny"

Title: Re: Abortion is all about sex 27 Feb 2006 09:01:13 AM
"citysites" <citysites@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Get your religion out of my government.

What religion?
And what government?
.
User: "Mark Sebree"

Title: Re: Abortion is all about sex 27 Feb 2006 12:22:08 PM
Johnny wrote:

"citysites" <citysites@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140985009.088240.286870@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Get your religion out of my government.


What religion?

Any and every religion.

And what government?

The U.S. government, as well as the state and local governments.
Mark Sebree
.
User: "Johnny"

Title: Re: Abortion is all about sex 27 Feb 2006 01:44:52 PM
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
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Johnny wrote:

"citysites" <citysites@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Get your religion out of my government.


What religion?


Any and every religion.

You are out of your league then.

And what government?


The U.S. government, as well as the state and local governments.

You are out of your league and against the US and State Constitutions.


Mark Sebree

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User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Abortion is all about sex 27 Feb 2006 04:31:33 PM
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:

"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
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Johnny wrote:

"citysites" <citysites@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140985009.088240.286870@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Get your religion out of my government.

What religion?

Any and every religion.

You are out of your league then.

You've been out of everyone's league for years.

And what government?

The U.S. government, as well as the state and local governments.

You are out of your league and against the US and State Constitutions.

You wouldn't understand any state constitution, let alone the national one, if
someone rolled one up and beat you to within an inch of your life with it.
You're the delusional dolt who wants everyone else to obey, for no other
apparent reason than that you demand it.
(It's not going to work.)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 5, Milwaukee 2 (February 26)
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User: "Johnny"

Title: Re: Abortion is all about sex 27 Feb 2006 08:28:20 PM
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:

"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
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Johnny wrote:

"citysites" <citysites@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140985009.088240.286870@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Get your religion out of my government.


What religion?


Any and every religion.


You are out of your league then.


You've been out of everyone's league for years.

And what government?


The U.S. government, as well as the state and local governments.


You are out of your league and against the US and State Constitutions.


You wouldn't understand any state constitution, let alone the national
one, if
someone rolled one up and beat you to within an inch of your life with it.
You're the delusional dolt who wants everyone else to obey, for no other
apparent reason than that you demand it.

The demands are already in our society.
Is there any reason you are not working for liberty for the people of the
USA?

(It's not going to work.)

FYI, the current policy isn't working.
Got any more seaports you want to be run by foreigners?


--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 5, Milwaukee 2 (February 26)
NEXT GAME: Thursday, March 2 vs. Hamilton, 7:05

.
User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Abortion is all about sex 28 Feb 2006 12:21:30 AM
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:

"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk64n0xwl6.fsf@fnord.io.com...

"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:

"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1141064528.141349.246700@t39g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...

Johnny wrote:

"citysites" <citysites@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140985009.088240.286870@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Get your religion out of my government.

What religion?

Any and every religion.

You are out of your league then.

You've been out of everyone's league for years.

And what government?

The U.S. government, as well as the state and local governments.

You are out of your league and against the US and State Constitutions.

You wouldn't understand any state constitution, let alone the national one,
if someone rolled one up and beat you to within an inch of your life with
it. You're the delusional dolt who wants everyone else to obey, for no
other apparent reason than that you demand it.

The demands are already in our society.

Your demands are yours. Quit pretending that everyone else supports your
insanity.

Is there any reason you are not working for liberty for the people of the
USA?

I'm working for it far more than you ever have, or will...and a significant
portion of that work is done as a volunteer.

(It's not going to work.)

FYI, the current policy isn't working.
Got any more seaports you want to be run by foreigners?

Got any more drugs you're abusing? After alll, no one sane would be making
the habitually fact-free proclamations you do.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 5, Milwaukee 2 (February 26)
NEXT GAME: Thursday, March 2 vs. Hamilton, 7:05
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User: "Dionisio"

Title: Re: Abortion is all about sex 27 Feb 2006 08:46:45 PM
The Chief Instigator wrote:

You wouldn't understand any state constitution, let alone the national one, if
someone rolled one up and beat you to within an inch of your life with it.
You're the delusional dolt who wants everyone else to obey, for no other
apparent reason than that you demand it.

(It's not going to work.)


Now that's not entirely true; Were he to command folks to be kinky, I'm
sure some would be happy to oblige. (With entire chicken farms no less.)
--
"If Christians want us to believe in a Redeemer, let them act redeemed."
--Voltaire
.
User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Abortion is all about sex 28 Feb 2006 12:23:41 AM
Dionisio <moc-rr-thgisniTA@5ellimd.com> writes:

The Chief Instigator wrote:

You wouldn't understand any state constitution, let alone the national one,
if someone rolled one up and beat you to within an inch of your life with
it. You're the delusional dolt who wants everyone else to obey, for no
other apparent reason than that you demand it. (It's not going to work.)

Now that's not entirely true; Were he to command folks to be kinky, I'm sure
some would be happy to oblige. (With entire chicken farms no less.)

Ouch! Considering the part of western South Carolina he infests, I'd say a
significant part of the area's economy would be adversely affected. ;-)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 5, Milwaukee 2 (February 26)
NEXT GAME: Thursday, March 2 vs. Hamilton, 7:05
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Abortion is all about sex 28 Feb 2006 04:46:45 PM
On 28 Feb 2006 00:23:41 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

Dionisio <moc-rr-thgisniTA@5ellimd.com> writes:

The Chief Instigator wrote:


You wouldn't understand any state constitution, let alone the national one,
if someone rolled one up and beat you to within an inch of your life with
it. You're the delusional dolt who wants everyone else to obey, for no
other apparent reason than that you demand it. (It's not going to work.)


Now that's not entirely true; Were he to command folks to be kinky, I'm sure
some would be happy to oblige. (With entire chicken farms no less.)


Ouch! Considering the part of western South Carolina he infests, I'd say a
significant part of the area's economy would be adversely affected. ;-)

The hens would be hunt'n peckers.......
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
.
User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Abortion is all about sex 01 Mar 2006 12:31:36 AM
stoney <stoney@the.net> writes:

On 28 Feb 2006 00:23:41 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

Dionisio <moc-rr-thgisniTA@5ellimd.com> writes:

The Chief Instigator wrote:

You wouldn't understand any state constitution, let alone the national one,
if someone rolled one up and beat you to within an inch of your life with
it. You're the delusional dolt who wants everyone else to obey, for no
other apparent reason than that you demand it. (It's not going to work.)

Now that's not entirely true; Were he to command folks to be kinky, I'm sure
some would be happy to oblige. (With entire chicken farms no less.)

Ouch! Considering the part of western South Carolina he infests, I'd say a
significant part of the area's economy would be adversely affected. ;-)

The hens would be hunt'n peckers.......

That would depopulate the male half of Bob Jones University in short order...
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 5, Milwaukee 2 (February 26)
NEXT GAME: Thursday, March 2 vs. Hamilton, 7:05
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Abortion is all about sex 01 Mar 2006 07:00:08 PM
On 01 Mar 2006 00:31:36 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

stoney <stoney@the.net> writes:

On 28 Feb 2006 00:23:41 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote in alt.atheism


Dionisio <moc-rr-thgisniTA@5ellimd.com> writes:


The Chief Instigator wrote:


You wouldn't understand any state constitution, let alone the national one,
if someone rolled one up and beat you to within an inch of your life with
it. You're the delusional dolt who wants everyone else to obey, for no
other apparent reason than that you demand it. (It's not going to work.)


Now that's not entirely true; Were he to command folks to be kinky, I'm sure
some would be happy to oblige. (With entire chicken farms no less.)


Ouch! Considering the part of western South Carolina he infests, I'd say a
significant part of the area's economy would be adversely affected. ;-)


The hens would be hunt'n peckers.......


That would depopulate the male half of Bob Jones University in short order...

Actually it would make sure those individuals don't spread their
defective genes.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
.
User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Abortion is all about sex 01 Mar 2006 09:05:10 PM
stoney <stoney@the.net> writes:

On 01 Mar 2006 00:31:36 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

stoney <stoney@the.net> writes:

On 28 Feb 2006 00:23:41 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

Dionisio <moc-rr-thgisniTA@5ellimd.com> writes:

The Chief Instigator wrote:

You wouldn't understand any state constitution, let alone the national
one, if someone rolled one up and beat you to within an inch of your
life with it. You're the delusional dolt who wants everyone else to
obey, for no other apparent reason than that you demand it. (It's not
going to work.)

Now that's not entirely true; Were he to command folks to be kinky, I'm
sure some would be happy to oblige. (With entire chicken farms no less.)

Ouch! Considering the part of western South Carolina he infests, I'd say a
significant part of the area's economy would be adversely affected. ;-)

The hens would be hunt'n peckers.......

That would depopulate the male half of Bob Jones University in short order...

Actually it would make sure those individuals don't spread their
defective genes.

That'll be the TDC feature "When Good Genes Go Bad".
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 5, Milwaukee 2 (February 26)
NEXT GAME: Thursday, March 2 vs. Hamilton, 7:05
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Abortion is all about sex 02 Mar 2006 03:10:58 PM
On 01 Mar 2006 21:05:10 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

stoney <stoney@the.net> writes:

On 01 Mar 2006 00:31:36 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote in alt.atheism


stoney <stoney@the.net> writes:


On 28 Feb 2006 00:23:41 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote in alt.atheism


Dionisio <moc-rr-thgisniTA@5ellimd.com> writes:


The Chief Instigator wrote:


You wouldn't understand any state constitution, let alone the national
one, if someone rolled one up and beat you to within an inch of your
life with it. You're the delusional dolt who wants everyone else to
obey, for no other apparent reason than that you demand it. (It's not
going to work.)


Now that's not entirely true; Were he to command folks to be kinky, I'm
sure some would be happy to oblige. (With entire chicken farms no less.)


Ouch! Considering the part of western South Carolina he infests, I'd say a
significant part of the area's economy would be adversely affected. ;-)


The hens would be hunt'n peckers.......


That would depopulate the male half of Bob Jones University in short order...


Actually it would make sure those individuals don't spread their
defective genes.


That'll be the TDC feature "When Good Genes Go Bad".

Bach to the drawing board....
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
.
User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Abortion is all about sex 07 Mar 2006 11:19:19 AM
stoney <stoney@the.net> writes:

On 01 Mar 2006 21:05:10 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

stoney <stoney@the.net> writes:

On 01 Mar 2006 00:31:36 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

stoney <stoney@the.net> writes:

On 28 Feb 2006 00:23:41 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

Dionisio <moc-rr-thgisniTA@5ellimd.com> writes:

The Chief Instigator wrote:

You wouldn't understand any state constitution, let alone the national
one, if someone rolled one up and beat you to within an inch of your
life with it. You're the delusional dolt who wants everyone else to
obey, for no other apparent reason than that you demand it. (It's not
going to work.)

Now that's not entirely true; Were he to command folks to be kinky, I'm
sure some would be happy to oblige. (With entire chicken farms no less.)

Ouch! Considering the part of western South Carolina he infests, I'd
say a significant part of the area's economy would be adversely
affected. ;-)

The hens would be hunt'n peckers.......

That would depopulate the male half of Bob Jones University in short
order...

Actually it would make sure those individuals don't spread their
defective genes.

That'll be the TDC feature "When Good Genes Go Bad".

Bach to the drawing board....

Better him than that Amadeus guy.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: San Antonio 4, Houston 2 (March 5)
NEXT GAME: Tuesday, March 7 vs. Chicago, 7:05
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Abortion is all about sex 08 Mar 2006 09:28:17 AM
On 07 Mar 2006 11:19:19 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

stoney <stoney@the.net> writes:

On 01 Mar 2006 21:05:10 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote in alt.atheism


stoney <stoney@the.net> writes:


On 01 Mar 2006 00:31:36 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote in alt.atheism


stoney <stoney@the.net> writes:


On 28 Feb 2006 00:23:41 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote in alt.atheism


Dionisio <moc-rr-thgisniTA@5ellimd.com> writes:


The Chief Instigator wrote:


You wouldn't understand any state constitution, let alone the national
one, if someone rolled one up and beat you to within an inch of your
life with it. You're the delusional dolt who wants everyone else to
obey, for no other apparent reason than that you demand it. (It's not
going to work.)


Now that's not entirely true; Were he to command folks to be kinky, I'm
sure some would be happy to oblige. (With entire chicken farms no less.)


Ouch! Considering the part of western South Carolina he infests, I'd
say a significant part of the area's economy would be adversely
affected. ;-)


The hens would be hunt'n peckers.......


That would depopulate the male half of Bob Jones University in short
order...


Actually it would make sure those individuals don't spread their
defective genes.


That'll be the TDC feature "When Good Genes Go Bad".


Bach to the drawing board....


Better him than that Amadeus guy.

"Rock me, Amadeus;" said Falco.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
.










User: "Mark Sebree"

Title: Re: Abortion is all about sex 27 Feb 2006 02:12:03 PM
Johnny wrote:

"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1141064528.141349.246700@t39g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...


Johnny wrote:

"citysites" <citysites@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140985009.088240.286870@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Get your religion out of my government.


What religion?


Any and every religion.


You are out of your league then.

Meaning I am playing in the Minors when I qualify for the Majors.
Besides, your comment does not make sense in context.

And what government?


The U.S. government, as well as the state and local governments.


You are out of your league and against the US and State Constitutions.

No, I am not. I am for the US Constitution. That is why I have read
and understand it. Unlike you, I understand that the Cosntitution
requires that the government is required to protect the right of its
citizens to worship in any manner that they wish, that they are to
protect the citizens from having other religious beliefs forced onto
them by those that do not like their religious beliefs, and that they
are to not play favorites with respect to religions and not promote or
encourage one religion over the others. I also understand that the
Constitution requires that the states also protect these rights of the
people.
I am not out of my league, you are out of yours. And you have never
been able to show that I am against the US Constitution. All you have
been able to show is that I do not accept your interpretation of the
Constitution because it is counter to the interpretation of every legal
and judicial expert that I know of. And you have never been able to
support your interpretation of the Constitution using any objective
argument or any reputable authority.
However, your comment has nothing to do with your question or my reply.
Do try to stay on topic for once.
Mark Sebree


Mark Sebree

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User: "Dionisio"

Title: Re: Abortion is all about sex 27 Feb 2006 08:33:17 PM
Johnny wrote:

"citysites" <citysites@gmail.com> wrote:


Get your religion out of my government.


What religion?
And what government?


True. Religious governments tend to be neither.
--
"If Christians want us to believe in a Redeemer, let them act redeemed."
--Voltaire
.


User: ""

Title: Re: Abortion is all about sex 26 Feb 2006 05:22:00 PM
citysites, so should we also keep your personal subjective whim as to
right and wrong out of determining which laws should be past to? We
could have NO moral decisions governing laws, none based on strictly
ivory tower intellectualism, moral decisions evolved out of a religious
community, or personal subjective whims as right and wrong. We could
reduce everything to an economic dollar sign and have everyone bid for
it. Wait, isn't that what is going on now? :-P
- Richard Hutnik
.


User: ""

Title: Re: Abortion is all about sex 27 Feb 2006 04:11:07 PM