Religions > Atheism > ACLU asks investigation of Oregon-based, abstinence-only program
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"J Young" |
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17 May 2007 12:45:40 AM |
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ACLU asks investigation of Oregon-based, abstinence-only program |
Why is the ACLU always on the side of those who oppose virtue, good
taste, morality, and decency?
http://www.katc.com/Global/story.asp?S=6526910
EUGENE, Ore. -- The American Civil Liberties Union has asked federal
and state officials to investigate whether public money has been used
for religious purposes in an abstinence-only sex education program
based in Oregon.
The group cites a contract signed by the Northern Hills Pregnancy Care
Center of Spearfish, S.D., that stipulates that those who present the
"Stop and Think" program in schools will "possess an authentic
relationship with Jesus Christ" and "attend a Bible believing church
or fellowship."
The Lane Pregnancy Support Center, based in Eugene, has offered its
abstinence program to schools in Lane County and made it available
through centers in other Oregon cities. Its Web site lists centers in
Massachusetts, Louisiana, Montana and South Dakota as "Stop and Think"
locations.
"Both the federal and Oregon constitutions are violated when a direct
grant of government dollars funds specifically religious activities,"
said Jann Carson, associate director of the ACLU of Oregon, in a
letter to the state Department of Human Services. A similar letter
went to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.
Dr. Brick Lantz, president of the Lane Pregnancy Support Center's
board, told the Eugene Register-Guard that he is unclear how or why
the language was in the South Dakota contract. He said he does not
believe that any such requirement is made of presenters in Eugene or
elsewhere in Oregon.
Lantz said presenters are specifically prohibited from talking about
religion or God in their classroom talks, although students understand
the program's value-based nature "without us mentioning any of those
things."
In its letter to the state, the ACLU said the Eugene center has
received $37,500 annually in federal funds administered by the state,
through last year, to support the "Stop and Think" program.
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| Title: Re: ACLU asks investigation of Oregon-based, abstinence-only program |
17 May 2007 03:29:29 AM |
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In article <1179380740.569969.143240@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Why is the ACLU always on the side of those who oppose virtue, good
taste, morality, and decency?
That reminds me... gotta send in my membership renewal. It expired a
while ago.
Thanks, "J Young," for the heads-up. A check will be going out in
tomorrow's mail.
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655321
"We are heroes in error" -- Ahmad Chalabi
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU asks investigation of Oregon-based, abstinence-only program |
17 May 2007 01:20:54 AM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Why is the ACLU always on the side of those who oppose virtue, good
taste, morality, and decency?
They're not. Why are you a corrupt, immoral, vile, sleazebag who like
to see people die? Why do you hate America and freedom?
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU asks investigation of Oregon-based, abstinence-only program |
18 May 2007 12:33:25 AM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Why is the ACLU always on the side of those who oppose virtue, good
taste, morality, and decency?
You mean like Jerry Falwell?
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| User: "tirebiter" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU asks investigation of Oregon-based, abstinence-only program |
17 May 2007 11:53:36 AM |
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On May 17, 2:20 am, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
Why is the ACLU always on the side of those who oppose virtue, good
taste, morality, and decency?
They're not. Why are you a corrupt, immoral, vile, sleazebag who like
to see people die? Why do you hate America and freedom?
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Ray Fischer
Sort of like when the ACLU filed a motion on behalf of Rush Limbaugh
because Florida law enforcement officers violated Limbaugh's privacy
rights by taking possession of his medical records after his drug
bust.
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a.a. #2273
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| User: "Elf M. Sternberg" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU asks investigation of Oregon-based, abstinence-onlyprogram |
17 May 2007 07:51:02 AM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Why is the ACLU always on the side of those who oppose virtue, good
taste, morality, and decency?
It would appear to me that the ACLU is on the side of law and
justice in this matter. Do you have a problem with law and justice,
boy?
Elf
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Elf M. Sternberg, Immanentizing the Eschaton since 1988
http://www.pendorwright.com/
"You know how some people treat their body like a temple?
I treat mine like issa amusement park!" - Kei
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| User: "LC" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU asks investigation of Oregon-based, abstinence-only program |
17 May 2007 08:31:37 AM |
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"Elf M. Sternberg" <elf@drizzle.com> wrote in message
news:87wsz7pqa1.fsf@drizzle.com...
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Why is the ACLU always on the side of those who oppose virtue, good
taste, morality, and decency?
It would appear to me that the ACLU is on the side of law and
justice in this matter. Do you have a problem with law and justice,
boy?
Not if it's the sort of "law & justice" dispensed by J's fellow wingnut Pat
Robertson's ACLJ (American Center for Law & Justice), the fundy answer to
the ACLU.
Elf
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Elf M. Sternberg, Immanentizing the Eschaton since 1988
http://www.pendorwright.com/
"You know how some people treat their body like a temple?
I treat mine like issa amusement park!" - Kei
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU asks investigation of Oregon-based, abstinence-only program |
17 May 2007 08:01:19 AM |
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Elf M. Sternberg wrote:
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Why is the ACLU always on the side of those who oppose virtue, good
taste, morality, and decency?
It would appear to me that the ACLU is on the side of law and
justice in this matter. Do you have a problem with law and justice,
boy?
Apparently. Law and justice (and the Constitution and American values)
seem to be the antithesis of what Young finds virtuous, in good taste,
moral, and decent.
Just as we all suspected. ;-)
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU asks investigation of Oregon-based, abstinence-only program |
17 May 2007 07:33:52 AM |
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J Young wrote:
Why is the ACLU always on the side of those who oppose virtue, good
taste, morality, and decency?
http://www.katc.com/Global/story.asp?S=6526910
Well, in this case, that which you define as "virtue, good taste,
morality, and decency" are antithetical to American Values.
But, no one ever said that Young wasn't living in Opposite World.
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| User: "John Baker" |
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17 May 2007 08:22:45 PM |
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On 16 May 2007 22:45:40 -0700, J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Why is the ACLU always on the side of those who oppose virtue, good
taste, morality, and decency?
They aren't, IBen. Just because they interceded on behalf of Rush
Limbaugh and the American Nazi Party, two examples where those
qualities are conspicuous by their complete absence, doesn't mean they
*always* defend sleazebags.
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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17 May 2007 12:09:41 PM |
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On 17 Mai, 07:45, J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
Why is the ACLU always on the side of those who oppose virtue, good
taste, morality, and decency?
Funny, I was wondering why you were always on the side of holocaust-
deniers, racists, homophones, bigots, hypocrites... you know...
indecent and immoral persons...
Besides, why do you oppose democracy? why do you hate your country and
the principles on which it was built?
Why are you so obsessed with "abstinence" programs: they don't work,
as proven by the highest teen pregnancy and the higest teen abortion
rates in the Western world. I didn't know you supported abortion...
You know, just because you're still a virgin doesn't mean that no one
should get any...
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| User: "MarkA" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU asks investigation of Oregon-based, abstinence-only program |
17 May 2007 09:09:45 AM |
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On Wed, 16 May 2007 22:45:40 -0700, J Young wrote:
Why is the ACLU always on the side of those who oppose virtue, good taste,
morality, and decency?
Perhaps they believe that the taxpayers have a right to know if their
money is being spent legally? I can't imagine you would be upset if your
tax dollars were being spent to indoctrinate people into Islam, would you?
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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