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"J Young" |
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04 Nov 2005 09:19:30 PM |
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ACLU: Councilman's prayer violated law |
The ACLU will stop at nothing in their never ending fight against those who
wish to practice their religious beliefs. The last line of the article only
proves how provocative the ACLU really is.
"The county broke the law. Let's just be honest. You took an oath to uphold
the Constitution," said Deanhardt, dressed in a slogan-covered T-shirt with
an ACLU button and a hat that says, "Hi, I'm your friendly neighborhood
atheist."
http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/news/local/12948936.htm
ACLU: Councilman's prayer violated law
WALHALLA - The American Civil Liberties Union says an Oconee County
councilman broke the law by ending his prayer during a council meeting by
asking for wisdom, direction and guidance "in the name of Jesus."
The Rev. Bill Rinehart gave plenty of warning he would include the name of
Jesus Christ in his prayer at the council meeting Tuesday and said if other
members didn't let him say his prayer he would resign.
The ACLU sent a letter last month to Oconee County and two other governments
asking them to follow a federal court ruling that bans mentioning Jesus
Christ in public prayers.
After Rinehart's opening prayer, the council breezed through the rest of the
agenda before ACLU member Michael Deanhardt told members during the public
comment period he was disappointed.
"The county broke the law. Let's just be honest. You took an oath to uphold
the Constitution," said Deanhardt, dressed in a slogan-covered T-shirt with
an ACLU button and a hat that says, "Hi, I'm your friendly neighborhood
atheist."
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13 Nov 2005 06:20:53 AM |
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On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 20:16:14 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
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On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 02:49:13 -0800, Bonnie ***** <bonnieb@fifispad.org> wrote:
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"The only thing I want from God is protection from his followers" --
bumper sticker
I guess God is scary to those who do not know Him.
Why didn't you respond to what was written? I guess it was too scary.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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12 Nov 2005 08:42:42 PM |
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in article le8dn1pctmk8armop5nqr17m5ghtmsmrm8@4ax.com, CB at
country2000@hotmail.com wrote on 11/12/05 9:16 PM:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 02:49:13 -0800, Bonnie ***** <bonnieb@fifispad.org> wrote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:47:53 GMT, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of Dubh Ghall
<puck@pooks.hill.fey>
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 21:37:26 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote:
You are afraid of religion.
No.
But we are afraid of the religious.
"The only thing I want from God is protection from his followers" --
bumper sticker
I guess God is scary to those who do not know Him.
And the lack of reward frustrating for those who claim to know
Him...
Paul
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| User: "€€R.L.Measures" |
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13 Nov 2005 05:09:22 AM |
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In article <BF9C1252.1C1C5%p.duca@comcast.net>, Paul Duca
<p.duca@comcast.net> wrote:
in article le8dn1pctmk8armop5nqr17m5ghtmsmrm8@4ax.com, CB at
country2000@hotmail.com wrote on 11/12/05 9:16 PM:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 02:49:13 -0800, Bonnie ***** <bonnieb@fifispad.org>
wrote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:47:53 GMT, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of Dubh Ghall
<puck@pooks.hill.fey>
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 21:37:26 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote:
You are afraid of religion.
No.
But we are afraid of the religious.
"The only thing I want from God is protection from his followers" --
bumper sticker
I guess God is scary to those who do not know Him.
And the lack of reward frustrating for those who claim to know
Him...
€€ chortle. thanks, Paul
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€ R.L.Measures, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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09 Nov 2005 01:05:22 AM |
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in article 6lr2n11in742cobo1jlfv3qikhilvhs1ie@4ax.com, CB at
country2000@hotmail.com wrote on 11/8/05 10:37 PM:
On 6 Nov 2005 22:14:52 -0800, "Del" <jfacts@earthlink.net> wrote:
CB wrote:
On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 16:13:11 GMT, "grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid>
wrote:
You can pray on the sidewalk. You can pray at home. You can pray at
Wal-Mart. You can pray at your local grocery. You can pray in your yard.
You c an pray at the ballpark. You can pray in your car. You can pray
while
fishing. You can pray in a bar. You can pray on a farm. You can pray in
a
motel. You can pray in a hotel. You can pray in a bus station. You can
pray at the gas station. You can pray at the hardware store. You can
pray
at the liquor store. You can pray at the lumber yard. You can pray at the
mall. You can pray in a parking lot. You can pray in a parking ramp. You
can pray in a park. You can pray on a bike trail. You can pray while
hiking. You can pray while swimming. You can pray in the junk yard. You
can pray at the pet store. You can pray at the slaughterhouse. You can
pray at the chicken ranch. You can pray at the cattle ra nch. You can
pray
while boating. You can pray at the gym.
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to pray in government
buildings?
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to keep people from praying
in
government buildings?
There isn't.
Yes there is.
You are afraid of religion.
And for good reason.
On judgment day you'll try the ignorance defense.
I'm certainly not going to try the reward expectation....
Paul
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| User: "" |
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05 Nov 2005 07:07:43 PM |
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On 5-Nov-2005, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote:
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to pray in government
buildings?
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to keep people from
praying in
government buildings?
How could it be psychotic to keep psychotics from trying to force their
religion on the public at large?
What's it to you?
See previous statement & check the Constitution while you're at it.
Big Clue: the FIRST AMENDMENT
Susan
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| User: "" |
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13 Nov 2005 04:58:17 PM |
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wrote:
On 5-Nov-2005, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote:
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to pray in government
buildings?
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to keep people from
praying in
government buildings?
How could it be psychotic to keep psychotics from trying to force their
religion on the public at large?
What's it to you?
See previous statement & check the Constitution while you're at it.
Big Clue: the FIRST AMENDMENT
Once again the resident airhead obviously believe that The
Constitution says
what *she* wants it to say. "State Religion" was not allowed. It says
nothing about
prayers on public property. The signers were British and descended
from those who
founded the U.S. They did not want a "Church of England", "Church of
Scotland" etc.
since The Head of the C.of E. was also Head of State. If they had
wanted to bar
Christian prayers in public buildings they would have said so, you
twit.
It has only been the last 50 years when the jews have gained so much
power and control
of the media and indeed the law courts that they have dared to bring
these daft
lawsuits on behalf of some vicious jew parent on behalf of their
children that these
laws have been passed. Well into the 60's school were celebrating
Christmas
and Easter as they had done for over 200 years.
"Oh Mommy, guess what, someone said the word "Christ" in school today
and
another child was collecting to buy the teacher a "Christmas
present" !!!!!!
It just isn't fair to us jews".
"Don't worry Rachel, I'll call the ACLU (jew inc) first thing in the
morning, who the
hell do these Christians think they are"!!
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| User: "CB" |
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05 Nov 2005 09:33:49 PM |
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On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 01:07:43 GMT, wrote:
On 5-Nov-2005, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote:
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to pray in government
buildings?
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to keep people from
praying in
government buildings?
How could it be psychotic to keep psychotics from trying to force their
religion on the public at large?
What's it to you?
See previous statement & check the Constitution while you're at it.
Big Clue: the FIRST AMENDMENT
Big clue: I don't need your religion.
Nice try.
Susan
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance."
Author Unknown
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| User: "Attn. Walmart Shoppers" |
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06 Nov 2005 10:21:14 AM |
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"CB" <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:gbuqm1hb7ml9vteiacaqq7e0uuf8becce3@4ax.com...
On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 01:07:43 GMT, wrote:
On 5-Nov-2005, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote:
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to pray in government
buildings?
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to keep people from
praying in
government buildings?
How could it be psychotic to keep psychotics from trying to force their
religion on the public at large?
What's it to you?
See previous statement & check the Constitution while you're at it.
Big Clue: the FIRST AMENDMENT
Big clue: I don't need your religion.
Nice try.
You would support Jim Jones.
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| User: "" |
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13 Nov 2005 05:00:53 PM |
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Attn. Walmart Shoppers wrote:
"CB" <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:gbuqm1hb7ml9vteiacaqq7e0uuf8becce3@4ax.com...
On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 01:07:43 GMT, wrote:
On 5-Nov-2005, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote:
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to pray in government
buildings?
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to keep people from
praying in
government buildings?
How could it be psychotic to keep psychotics from trying to force their
religion on the public at large?
What's it to you?
See previous statement & check the Constitution while you're at it.
Big Clue: the FIRST AMENDMENT
Big clue: I don't need your religion.
Nice try.
You would support Jim Jones.
*You* would support King Herod.
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| User: "Del" |
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14 Nov 2005 04:58:53 AM |
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Attn. Walmart Shoppers wrote:
"CB" <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:gbuqm1hb7ml9vteiacaqq7e0uuf8becce3@4ax.com...
On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 01:07:43 GMT, wrote:
On 5-Nov-2005, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote:
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to pray in government
buildings?
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to keep people from
praying in
government buildings?
How could it be psychotic to keep psychotics from trying to force their
religion on the public at large?
What's it to you?
See previous statement & check the Constitution while you're at it.
Big Clue: the FIRST AMENDMENT
Big clue: I don't need your religion.
Nice try.
You would support Jim Jones.
*You* would support King Herod.
No, you would, as you are told to do:
"Submit yourselves for the Lord's sake to every authority
instituted among men: whether to the king, as the supreme
authority, or to governors, who are sent by him to punish
those who do wrong... it is God's will... fear God, honor
the king." I Peter 2:13-17
"Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities,
for there is no authority except that which God has established.
The authorities that exist have been established by God.
Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling
against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring
judgment on themselves." -- Romans 13:1-2
Want more?
"Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities,
not only because of possible punishment but also because
of conscience. This is also why you pay taxes, for the
authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to
governing." Romans 13:5-6
More?
"To obey is better than sacrifice. For rebellion is as the sin
of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry"
1 Samuel 15:22,23
Make an appointment for more Bible instruction.
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14 Nov 2005 04:16:58 PM |
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Del wrote:
Boedi...@isp.com wrote:
Attn. Walmart Shoppers wrote:
"CB" <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:gbuqm1hb7ml9vteiacaqq7e0uuf8becce3@4ax.com...
On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 01:07:43 GMT, wrote:
On 5-Nov-2005, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote:
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to pray in government
buildings?
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to keep people from
praying in
government buildings?
How could it be psychotic to keep psychotics from trying to force their
religion on the public at large?
What's it to you?
See previous statement & check the Constitution while you're at it.
Big Clue: the FIRST AMENDMENT
Big clue: I don't need your religion.
Nice try.
You would support Jim Jones.
*You* would support King Herod.
No, you would, as you are told to do:
"Submit yourselves for the Lord's sake to every authority
instituted among men: whether to the king, as the supreme
authority, or to governors, who are sent by him to punish
those who do wrong... it is God's will... fear God, honor
the king." I Peter 2:13-17
"Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities,
for there is no authority except that which God has established.
The authorities that exist have been established by God.
Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling
against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring
judgment on themselves." -- Romans 13:1-2
Want more?
"Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities,
not only because of possible punishment but also because
of conscience. This is also why you pay taxes, for the
authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to
governing." Romans 13:5-6
More?
"To obey is better than sacrifice. For rebellion is as the sin
of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry"
1 Samuel 15:22,23
Make an appointment for more Bible instruction.
Why did you only quote the New Testament? I suggest you read about
the time
that King David murdered a young man because he didn't like the
message he received
form him. Does the expression "killing the messenger" ring a bell.
As for Samuel he must have been thinking of The Bolshevik Revolution
and the
30 million dead Christians, including The Tsar, his wife and 5
children murded by
the jew Jacovb Kurovsky. Rebellion in democracies is not necessary
since the
people can always elect others instead of killing them.
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| User: "Del" |
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15 Nov 2005 08:02:33 AM |
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wrote:
Del wrote:
Boedi...@isp.com wrote:
Attn. Walmart Shoppers wrote:
"CB" <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:gbuqm1hb7ml9vteiacaqq7e0uuf8becce3@4ax.com...
On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 01:07:43 GMT, wrote:
On 5-Nov-2005, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote:
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to pray in government
buildings?
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to keep people from
praying in
government buildings?
How could it be psychotic to keep psychotics from trying to force their
religion on the public at large?
What's it to you?
See previous statement & check the Constitution while you're at it.
Big Clue: the FIRST AMENDMENT
Big clue: I don't need your religion.
Nice try.
You would support Jim Jones.
*You* would support King Herod.
No, you would, as you are told to do:
"Submit yourselves for the Lord's sake to every authority
instituted among men: whet her to the king, as the supreme
authority, or to governors, who are sent by him to punish
those who do wrong... it is God's will... fear God, honor
the king." I Peter 2:13-17
"Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities,
for there is no authority except that which God has established.
The authorities that exist have been established by God.
Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling
against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring
judgment on themselves." -- Romans 13:1-2
Want more?
"Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities,
not only because of possible punishment but also because
of conscience. This is also why you pay taxes, for the
authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to
governing." Romans 13:5-6
More?
"To obey is better than sacrifice. For rebellion is as the sin
of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry"
1 Samuel 15:22,23
Make an appointment for more Bible instruction.
Why did you only quote the New Testament?
Wow I didn't know you were a Bible scholar! When did
I Sam get moved into the NT? Are you getting this from
The Newly Revised New Revised Version (NRNRV) of "God's"
unchanging truth?
Nevermind. Just stay on topic. Got it? To refresh your memory
you said the following to your correspondent:
" *You* would support King Herod."
Now *I* have just demonstrated that, contrary to your
above lie, it is faithful "Christians" such as yourself
who will support *any* tyrant. It's right there, in B &
W and in-context. You can't get around it. Therefore
I suggest that instead of resorting to inept attempts to
move the conversation away from the truth, you try to
be brave and adress the issues. If you can't take the heat
just admit it and take a hike.
I suggest you read about
the time
I have a better idea: stay on topic. It's obvious you are
chagrined by your groups support for Stalin-like dictatorships.
But that doesn't give you people special rights or permission
to change the subject.
that King David murdered a young man because he didn't like the
message he received form him.
So what? "God" murdered Uzzah for merely placing his hand
on the ark to steady it when an ox stumbled. These are *your*
moral absolutes. Not mine. I'm not the one here who hates the
very idea of civil liberities or supports Stalin-like dictatorships.
That would be you people.
Does the expression "killing the messenger" ring a bell.
Ah, something that your people approve of?
As for Samuel he must have been thinking of The Bolshevik Revolution
Yeah the Bible must have been referring to the "Bolshevik
Revolution." Phew. There is no mistaking a product of the
C of E's educational system, is there? I don't mean just
your comprehensive ignorance of history either. I mean the
fact that you thought this ridiculous, say-anything-to-change
-the-subject ploy: "Samuel he must have been thinking of
The Bolshevik Revolution" was clever.
It would be poetic if your non-existent god granted you an
extra 40 IQ points for a day so you could see what your
idiot ploys look like to normal people.
and the
30 million dead Christians,
Trying to drum up sympathy for your "group" by inventing
a phony holocaust is as bor-ing as it is stupid. But not quite
as stupid as you dragging us along with you just so you
can make a pejorative reference to a Jew:
including The Tsar, his wife and 5
children murded by
the jew Jacovb Kurovsky.
Ohmygod! Jacovb(sic) Kurovsky did this? You mean Jacovb
Kurovsky...the JEW? Well clearly all Jews are terrible people
then.
LOL! Boy, that's some powerful strong "logic" there, Tricksy!
So is this moronic thinking-with-your-glands one of the defining
traits of you xtians?
Rebellion in democracies is not necessary
Your kind of democracy is a lynch mob: there is only
one vote against it.
since the
people can always elect others instead of killing them.
So what is your excuse for the Thirty Years War or the Ti
Ping rebellion (where you Christians killed 10's of millions
of what you refer to as "slitty eyed gooks")? Huh? No
answer, I'll bet. How do you justify your "democracy"
forcing the Chinese to take your tons of opium at gun
point so you could have your little tea parties? Huh?
You like ladling it out to others, don't ya, but you aren't
so good at defending your peoples long history of
dispicible acts, are you?
Go ahead and try. I dare you.
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14 Nov 2005 09:18:25 PM |
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On 14 Nov 2005 14:16:58 -0800, in alt.atheism , in
<1132006618.010887.309320@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> wrote:
[snip]
As for Samuel he must have been thinking of The Bolshevik Revolution
and the
30 million dead Christians, including The Tsar, his wife and 5
children murded by
the jew Jacovb Kurovsky.
The Jew killed all those people? I wonder if it had anything to do
with the Czars killing over a hundred thousand and perhaps 250,000
Jews in the last half of the 19th C?
Rebellion in democracies is not necessary since the
people can always elect others instead of killing them.
Truish if not actually true.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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15 Nov 2005 07:10:09 AM |
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On 14-Nov-2005, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On 14 Nov 2005 14:16:58 -0800, in alt.atheism , in
<1132006618.010887.309320@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> wrote:
[snip]
As for Samuel he must have been thinking of The Bolshevik Revolution
and the
30 million dead Christians, including The Tsar, his wife and 5
children murded by
the jew Jacovb Kurovsky.
The Jew killed all those people?
Of course not, & the LIAR knew it before she posted.
But, like all bigots, she is immune to facts & reality.
I wonder if it had anything to do
with the Czars killing over a hundred thousand and perhaps 250,000
Jews in the last half of the 19th C?
That's something they overlook while exaggerating (LYING about) the
numbers of Jews involved in Communism.
Susan
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05 Nov 2005 11:51:27 AM |
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On 2005-11-05 08:47:15 -0800, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> said:
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to keep people from praying in
government buildings?
NO one is trying to do so, so long as the prayer is personal and not
sponsored by the government.
--
GlennGlenn (655321) -- aa#825 --
I am not famous, I am notorious. And if I am rich, it is because I have
taken my wages in people.
- Quentin Crisp
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| User: "grinder" |
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06 Nov 2005 12:14:34 PM |
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"655321" <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote in message
news:200511050951238930%DipthotDipthot@YahooYahooComCom...
On 2005-11-05 08:47:15 -0800, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> said:
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to keep people from
praying in
government buildings?
NO one is trying to do so, so long as the prayer is personal and not
sponsored by the government.
Problem is the religious right doesn't want prayer to be personal. They
want everybody to pray to THEIR god as evident by having these nut cases
coming to my door to preach. When I tell them I am an atheist they tell me
"But Jesus Loves You" to which my reponse is "Honey, the one thing I am
absolutely sure of is neither you nor I will be surprised the second after
we die."
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06 Nov 2005 12:43:42 PM |
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""""so long as the prayer is personal and not sponsored by the
government."""""
Not so fast
Substitute ```Condoned``` for the ```sponsored```
Libs are afraid of any prayer or hint of same in any public forum.
All over the country school children are forbiddent to wear or bring items
of red and green color, santa claus etc. to public school holiday parties or
events as this somehow implies an Observance of a Religious Holiday.
and on and on...............
"grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
news:eKrbf.642$Xo.242@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
"655321" <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote in message
news:200511050951238930%DipthotDipthot@YahooYahooComCom...
On 2005-11-05 08:47:15 -0800, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> said:
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to keep people from
praying in
government buildings?
NO one is trying to do so, so long as the prayer is personal and not
sponsored by the government.
Problem is the religious right doesn't want prayer to be personal. They
want everybody to pray to THEIR god as evident by having these nut cases
coming to my door to preach. When I tell them I am an atheist they tell
me "But Jesus Loves You" to which my reponse is "Honey, the one thing I am
absolutely sure of is neither you nor I will be surprised the second
after we die."
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07 Nov 2005 02:37:42 AM |
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On 6-Nov-2005, "SHb" <sherb@iNO_SPAMntergate.com> wrote:
""""so long as the prayer is personal and not sponsored by the
government."""""
Not so fast
Substitute ```Condoned``` for the ```sponsored```
Okay, and...?
Libs are afraid of any prayer or hint of same in any public forum.
True patriots are always vigilant to any threat to liberty & the general
welfare, yes.
All over the country school children are forbiddent to wear or bring items
of red and green color, santa claus etc. to public school holiday parties
This is a lie, of course, tho' it would be nice if everyone were as honest
as
you ( see below)
or
events as this somehow implies an Observance of a Religious Holiday.
and on and on...............
And since it ONLY occurs near XMAS - thanks for admititng just what all the
"secular" crap really is....
Susan
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| User: "655321" |
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| Title: Re: I don't get it. |
06 Nov 2005 12:57:58 PM |
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On 2005-11-06 10:43:42 -0800, "SHb" <sherb@iNO_SPAMntergate.com> said:
All over the country school children are forbiddent to wear or bring
items of red and green color, santa claus etc. to public school holiday
parties or events as this somehow implies an Observance of a Religious
Holiday.
and on and on...............
1. I don't believe you. Got cites?
2. That's prayer? Sounds like holiday commericalism to me... or
something pagan at least. But you can even say pagan prayers on public
school grounds if you want to.
--
GlennGlenn (655321) -- aa#825 --
I am not famous, I am notorious. And if I am rich, it is because I have
taken my wages in people.
- Quentin Crisp
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| User: "Del" |
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| Title: Re: I don't get it. |
07 Nov 2005 01:52:37 AM |
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SHb wrote:
""""so long as the prayer is personal and not sponsored by the
government."""""
Not so fast
Substitute ```Condoned``` for the ```sponsored```
Libs are afraid of any prayer or hint of same in any public forum.
Since I don't see them complaining about "any prayer or hint
of same in _any_ public forum" but only government
sponsored prayer, you are therefore amusingly minsinformed or
consciously lying. Probably both. In any case we both know
you won't provide evidence defending this ***** accusation. Nope.
It'll never happen. This is so embarrassing to you that you won't
even discuss it, or even discuss why you won't discuss it.
It is your inability to discuss or debate your accusation that
reveals you to be less ethical than the "libs" you falsely accuse.
Even more amusing, you _know_that you are less ethical
and you know that I know it too.
Neo-cons are so predictible. e
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| User: "CB" |
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| Title: Re: I don't get it. |
05 Nov 2005 09:30:40 PM |
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On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 17:51:27 GMT, 655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com>
wrote:
On 2005-11-05 08:47:15 -0800, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> said:
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to keep people from praying in
government buildings?
NO one is trying to do so,
That's a lie.
so long as the prayer is personal and not
sponsored by the government.
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance."
Author Unknown
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| User: "" |
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06 Nov 2005 01:11:59 AM |
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On 5-Nov-2005, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote:
, 05 Nov 2005 17:51:27 GMT, 655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com>
wrote:
On 2005-11-05 08:47:15 -0800, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> said:
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to keep people from
praying in
government buildings?
NO one is trying to do so,
That's a lie.
No - and you knew it yourself as you snipped it before the pertinent part,
below.
Susan
so long as the prayer is personal and not
sponsored by the government.
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| User: "655321" |
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06 Nov 2005 12:54:45 PM |
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On 2005-11-05 23:11:59 -0800, said:
On 5-Nov-2005, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote:
, 05 Nov 2005 17:51:27 GMT, 655321 < >
wrote:
On 2005-11-05 08:47:15 -0800, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> said:
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to keep people from
praying in
government buildings?
NO one is trying to do so,
That's a lie.
No - and you knew it yourself as you snipped it before the pertinent part,
below.
Susan
so long as the prayer is personal and not
sponsored by the government.
Not to mention the pertinent part where a list of places one *can* pray
legally is offered.
--
GlennGlenn (655321) -- aa#825 --
I am not famous, I am notorious. And if I am rich, it is because I have
taken my wages in people.
- Quentin Crisp
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| User: "Kate " |
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06 Nov 2005 02:59:12 AM |
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On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 07:11:59 GMT, wrote:
On 5-Nov-2005, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote:
, 05 Nov 2005 17:51:27 GMT, 655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com>
wrote:
On 2005-11-05 08:47:15 -0800, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> said:
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to keep people from
praying in
government buildings?
NO one is trying to do so,
That's a lie.
No - and you knew it yourself as you snipped it before the pertinent part,
below.
Susan
so long as the prayer is personal and not
sponsored by the government.
Ah, a liar for christ.
No need to reply to this puppy, he's going to hell
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| User: "655321" |
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06 Nov 2005 12:53:44 PM |
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On 2005-11-05 19:30:40 -0800, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> said:
On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 17:51:27 GMT, 655321 < >
wrote:
On 2005-11-05 08:47:15 -0800, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> said:
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to keep people from praying in
government buildings?
NO one is trying to do so,
That's a lie.
No, it's true.
so long as the prayer is personal and not sponsored by the government.
--
GlennGlenn (655321) -- aa#825 --
I am not famous, I am notorious. And if I am rich, it is because I have
taken my wages in people.
- Quentin Crisp
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| User: "Kate " |
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| Title: Re: I don't get it. |
05 Nov 2005 05:10:22 PM |
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On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 10:47:15 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 16:13:11 GMT, "grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote:
You can pray on the sidewalk. You can pray at home. You can pray at
Wal-Mart. You can pray at your local grocery. You can pray in your yard.
You can pray at the ballpark. You can pray in your car. You can pray while
fishing. You can pray in a bar. You can pray on a farm. You can pray in a
motel. You can pray in a hotel. You can pray in a bus station. You can
pray at the gas station. You can pray at the hardware store. You can pray
at the liquor store. You can pray at the lumber yard. You can pray at the
mall. You can pray in a parking lot. You can pray in a parking ramp. You
can pray in a park. You can pray on a bike trail. You can pray while
hiking. You can pray while swimming. You can pray in the junk yard. You
can pray at the pet store. You can pray at the slaughterhouse. You can
pray at the chicken ranch. You can pray at the cattle ranch. You can pray
while boating. You can pray at the gym.
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to pray in government
buildings?
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to keep people from praying in
government buildings?
What's it to you?
When it's done by government officials as part of their job - it means
they are trying to give their personal religion the government's seal
of approval - and that's illegal.
Or did you flunk your high school government class?
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| User: "CB" |
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| Title: Re: I don't get it. |
05 Nov 2005 09:32:47 PM |
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On 5 Nov 2005 17:10:22 -0600, (Kate ) wrote:
On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 10:47:15 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 16:13:11 GMT, "grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote:
You can pray on the sidewalk. You can pray at home. You can pray at
Wal-Mart. You can pray at your local grocery. You can pray in your yard.
You can pray at the ballpark. You can pray in your car. You can pray while
fishing. You can pray in a bar. You can pray on a farm. You can pray in a
motel. You can pray in a hotel. You can pray in a bus station. You can
pray at the gas station. You can pray at the hardware store. You can pray
at the liquor store. You can pray at the lumber yard. You can pray at the
mall. You can pray in a parking lot. You can pray in a parking ramp. You
can pray in a park. You can pray on a bike trail. You can pray while
hiking. You can pray while swimming. You can pray in the junk yard. You
can pray at the pet store. You can pray at the slaughterhouse. You can
pray at the chicken ranch. You can pray at the cattle ranch. You can pray
while boating. You can pray at the gym.
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to pray in government
buildings?
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to keep people from praying in
government buildings?
What's it to you?
When it's done by government officials as part of their job - it means
they are trying to give their personal religion the government's seal
of approval - and that's illegal.
Oh, how profound!!
Or did you flunk your high school government class?
Unlike you, I can think.
Now go back to sleep.
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance."
Author Unknown
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: I don't get it. |
06 Nov 2005 01:14:28 AM |
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On 5-Nov-2005, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 5 Nov 2005 17:10:22 -0600, (Kate ) wrote:
On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 10:47:15 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to keep people from
praying in
government buildings?
What's it to you?
When it's done by government officials as part of their job - it means
they are trying to give their personal religion the government's seal
of approval - and that's illegal.
Oh, how profound!!
Profiound?
Well, if you want to be extravagant in your praise of a simple,
well-thought-out explanation, so be it.
Or did you flunk your high school government class?
Unlike you, I can think.
Wow, you really *are* delusional!
(& dodge noted)
Now go back to sleep.
& childishly lame, as well.
*plonk*
Susan
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| User: "Kate " |
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| Title: Re: I don't get it. |
05 Nov 2005 11:11:11 PM |
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On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 21:32:47 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On 5 Nov 2005 17:10:22 -0600, (Kate ) wrote:
On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 10:47:15 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 16:13:11 GMT, "grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote:
You can pray on the sidewalk. You can pray at home. You can pray at
Wal-Mart. You can pray at your local grocery. You can pray in your yard.
You can pray at the ballpark. You can pray in your car. You can pray while
fishing. You can pray in a bar. You can pray on a farm. You can pray in a
motel. You can pray in a hotel. You can pray in a bus station. You can
pray at the gas station. You can pray at the hardware store. You can pray
at the liquor store. You can pray at the lumber yard. You can pray at the
mall. You can pray in a parking lot. You can pray in a parking ramp. You
can pray in a park. You can pray on a bike trail. You can pray while
hiking. You can pray while swimming. You can pray in the junk yard. You
can pray at the pet store. You can pray at the slaughterhouse. You can
pray at the chicken ranch. You can pray at the cattle ranch. You can pray
while boating. You can pray at the gym.
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to pray in government
buildings?
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to keep people from praying in
government buildings?
What's it to you?
When it's done by government officials as part of their job - it means
they are trying to give their personal religion the government's seal
of approval - and that's illegal.
Oh, how profound!!
And true.
Or did you flunk your high school government class?
Unlike you, I can think.
You have yet to show any sign of it.
Now go back to sleep.
Is that what you are doing.
Can you manage anything other than ad hominems to back up anything you
say, or is that the complete bag of tricks?
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance."
Author Unknown
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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| Title: Re: I don't get it. |
05 Nov 2005 01:46:05 PM |
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On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 10:47:15 -0600, in alt.atheism , CB
<country2000@hotmail.com> in
<8dopm158ggehf017efafguperah00c9poh@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 16:13:11 GMT, "grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote:
You can pray on the sidewalk. You can pray at home. You can pray at
Wal-Mart. You can pray at your local grocery. You can pray in your yard.
You can pray at the ballpark. You can pray in your car. You can pray while
fishing. You can pray in a bar. You can pray on a farm. You can pray in a
motel. You can pray in a hotel. You can pray in a bus station. You can
pray at the gas station. You can pray at the hardware store. You can pray
at the liquor store. You can pray at the lumber yard. You can pray at the
mall. You can pray in a parking lot. You can pray in a parking ramp. You
can pray in a park. You can pray on a bike trail. You can pray while
hiking. You can pray while swimming. You can pray in the junk yard. You
can pray at the pet store. You can pray at the slaughterhouse. You can
pray at the chicken ranch. You can pray at the cattle ranch. You can pray
while boating. You can pray at the gym.
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to pray in government
buildings?
Why is there this uncontrollable psychotic need to keep people from praying in
government buildings?
What's it to you?
You can pray in government buildings. *Government agents* can't pray
as part of their government work. Do you really need the power of the
government to promote your religion? And are you so sure that it is
your religion that will get promoted?
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
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