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"J Young" |
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04 Nov 2005 09:19:30 PM |
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ACLU: Councilman's prayer violated law |
The ACLU will stop at nothing in their never ending fight against those who
wish to practice their religious beliefs. The last line of the article only
proves how provocative the ACLU really is.
"The county broke the law. Let's just be honest. You took an oath to uphold
the Constitution," said Deanhardt, dressed in a slogan-covered T-shirt with
an ACLU button and a hat that says, "Hi, I'm your friendly neighborhood
atheist."
http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/news/local/12948936.htm
ACLU: Councilman's prayer violated law
WALHALLA - The American Civil Liberties Union says an Oconee County
councilman broke the law by ending his prayer during a council meeting by
asking for wisdom, direction and guidance "in the name of Jesus."
The Rev. Bill Rinehart gave plenty of warning he would include the name of
Jesus Christ in his prayer at the council meeting Tuesday and said if other
members didn't let him say his prayer he would resign.
The ACLU sent a letter last month to Oconee County and two other governments
asking them to follow a federal court ruling that bans mentioning Jesus
Christ in public prayers.
After Rinehart's opening prayer, the council breezed through the rest of the
agenda before ACLU member Michael Deanhardt told members during the public
comment period he was disappointed.
"The county broke the law. Let's just be honest. You took an oath to uphold
the Constitution," said Deanhardt, dressed in a slogan-covered T-shirt with
an ACLU button and a hat that says, "Hi, I'm your friendly neighborhood
atheist."
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18 Nov 2005 12:11:06 PM |
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an ACLU button and a hat that says, "Hi, I'm your friendly neighborhood
atheist."
BTW, it's an Atheist button ( from the FFRF I think, but I'm not
sure), not an ACLU button. There is a difference.
I can't wait till we have elected officials at all levels, even in the
White House, with buttons saying "Hi, I'm your friendly neighborhood
atheist". It's not my all time favorite Atheist button, but I do like
it. This country needs Atheism more than ever right now.
Superstition has become the law of the land in many ways and it's too
much. Religious thought should have died with the end of the Dark
Ages, but sadly it did not. It is the people who believe in the
unbelievable that would allow a prayer at an official meeting in the
first place.
Rodger
"Wer keine fremde Sprache spricht,
kennt seine Muttersprache nicht."
J.W.v.Goethe
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19 Nov 2005 05:43:01 PM |
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VATICAN CITY -- The Vatican's chief astronomer said that "intelligent
design" was not science and did not belong in science classrooms, the
latest high-ranking Roman Catholic official to enter the evolution
debate in the United States. The Rev. George W. Coyne, the Jesuit
director of the Vatican Observatory, said placing intelligent design
theory alongside that of evolution in school programs was akin to
mixing apples with oranges.
- The Washington Post, WORLD IN BRIEF, Nov. 19, 2005, Page A20.
===============
And while we're on the subject, with absolutely no fear of being
refuted or shouted down, following for
everyone's enlightenment is a scientifically sound, logically vetted
listing of the primary personal traits possessed by each adherent to
"intelligent" behi- design misconceptions [THIS MIGHT MEAN YOU]:
1) Fundamentalist, bible-thumping, hypocritical religionist.
2) Narrow-minded, book-burning, semitic-, black-, oriental-,
homosexual-, science-, labor-movement-, and free-thought-hating bigot.
3) Believer in creationism, jesus, god and other ASSorted *****
concepts.
4) Admirer of the sordid bush clan, Jerry Falwell - and/or the pope
and his 2000-year-old criminal cult of repression and fear
5) Heavy alcohol imbiber.
6) Small-dicked tea-totaler.
7) Cold-pussied tea-totaler.
8) Eschewer of oral sex.
9) Displayer of the confederate battle flag.
10) Maliciously anti-abortionist who's willing to kill pro-choicers.
That's it. If you find your lifestyle and thought processes here,
yeah, you're "one of em" - sorry!
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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05 Nov 2005 12:01:08 AM |
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J Young wrote:
The ACLU will stop at nothing in their never ending fight against
those who wish to practice their religious beliefs. The last line of
the article only proves how provocative the ACLU really is.
As I mentioned in another post, it is easy to find ACLU lawsuits defending
the right of individuals to practice their religious views.
They even have filed a brief for Jerry Falwell.
But the bigots would never bother to actually find out what they are
complaining about.
"The county broke the law. Let's just be honest. You took an oath to
uphold the Constitution," said Deanhardt, dressed in a slogan-covered
T-shirt with an ACLU button and a hat that says, "Hi, I'm your
friendly neighborhood atheist."
What part of "breaking the law" do you need explained?
http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/news/local/12948936.htm
ACLU: Councilman's prayer violated law
WALHALLA - The American Civil Liberties Union says an Oconee County
councilman broke the law by ending his prayer during a council
meeting by asking for wisdom, direction and guidance "in the name of
Jesus."
The Rev. Bill Rinehart gave plenty of warning he would include the
name of Jesus Christ in his prayer at the council meeting Tuesday and
said if other members didn't let him say his prayer he would resign.
The ACLU sent a letter last month to Oconee County and two other
governments asking them to follow a federal court ruling that bans
mentioning Jesus Christ in public prayers.
After Rinehart's opening prayer, the council breezed through the rest
of the agenda before ACLU member Michael Deanhardt told members
during the public comment period he was disappointed.
"The county broke the law. Let's just be honest. You took an oath to
uphold the Constitution," said Deanhardt, dressed in a slogan-covered
T-shirt with an ACLU button and a hat that says, "Hi, I'm your
friendly neighborhood atheist."
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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05 Nov 2005 08:34:00 AM |
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In <EUXaf.9092$BZ5.7402@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
J Young wrote:
The ACLU will stop at nothing in their never ending fight against those
who wish to practice their religious beliefs. The last line of the
article only proves how provocative the ACLU really is.
As I mentioned in another post, it is easy to find ACLU lawsuits defending
the right of individuals to practice their religious views. They even have
filed a brief for Jerry Falwell.
But the bigots would never bother to actually find out what they are
complaining about.
What's going to be really, really funny (okay, to *me... I have a dark
sense of humor) is once they finish tearing down "the wall" and they
find--to their pig ignorant and bovine stupid surprise--it's not *their
church in charge. Every one of these idiots thinks their personal prayer
group or bible study or church is going to be in control.
I don't know what it is with these idiots. They should take long, hard
looks at the Post Office, the IRS, Amtrak, etc. and ask themselves if this
the government they want mixed up with their religion...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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"We're angry, Mr. President, and we'll be angry long
after our beloved city and surrounding parishes have
been pumped dry. Our people deserved rescuing.
Many who could have been were not. That's to the
government's shame."
http://www.nola.com/
"FEMA email warned of disaster"
http://makeashorterlink.com/?C5332250C
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| User: "" |
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05 Nov 2005 01:12:01 AM |
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Mike Painter wrote:
J Young wrote:
The ACLU will stop at nothing in their never ending fight against
those who wish to practice their religious beliefs. The last line of
the article only proves how provocative the ACLU really is.
As I mentioned in another post, it is easy to find ACLU lawsuits defending
the right of individuals to practice their religious views.
They even have filed a brief for Jerry Falwell.
But the bigots would never bother to actually find out what they are
complaining about.
How about "How come for the past 200 years prayers were said in
public places,
schools, courts etc. and it was considered normal, just like
Nativity scenes,
Easter, etc?" When did the ACLU (jew inc) decide it was harmful to
American
children and used their shekels to put a stop to it?
"The county broke the law. Let's just be honest. You took an oath to
uphold the Constitution," said Deanhardt, dressed in a slogan-covered
T-shirt with an ACLU button and a hat that says, "Hi, I'm your
friendly neighborhood atheist."
What part of "breaking the law" do you need explained?
http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/news/local/12948936.htm
ACLU: Councilman's prayer violated law
WALHALLA - The American Civil Liberties Union says an Oconee County
councilman broke the law by ending his prayer during a council
meeting by asking for wisdom, direction and guidance "in the name of
Jesus."
He should have said "In the name of Solomon":)
"Painter"? Are you any relation to that Russian/jew anarchist "Peter
the Painter"
who, with a gang of jew anarchists entered England in 1911, made their
way to
the jew part of the East End in London and managed to murder English
policemen,
fireman, women and children in their attempt to bring anarchism to
England?
Most of them died in the fire they started, Peter Painter escaped
and made his way
back to Russia where he became a leading figure in the following
Bolshevik Revolution.
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| User: "Del" |
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07 Nov 2005 12:08:37 AM |
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wrote:
Mike Painter wrote:
J Young wrote:
The ACLU will stop at nothing in their never ending fight against
those who wish to practice their religious beliefs. The last line of
the article only proves how provocat ive the ACLU really is.
As I mentioned in another post, it is easy to find ACLU lawsuits defending
the right of individuals to practice their religious views.
They even have filed a brief for Jerry Falwell.
But the bigots would never bother to actually find out what they are
complaining about.
How about "How come for the past 200 years prayers were said in public places,
schools, courts etc. and it was considered normal, just like Nativity scenes,
Easter, etc?" When did the ACLU (jew inc) decide it was harmful to American
children and used their shekels to put a stop to it?
Actually it was Jesus (King of Jews, inc.) who said so.
(Try Matthew 6:6) But you are a "Christian." What would you
know about Jesus?
"The county broke the law. Let's just be honest. You took an oath to
uphold the Constitution," said Deanhardt, dressed in a slogan-covered
T-shirt with an ACLU button and a hat that says, "Hi, I'm your
friendly neighborhood atheist."
What part of "breaking the law" do you need explained?
http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/m ld/myrtlebeachonline/news/local/12948936.htm
ACLU: Councilman's prayer violated law
WALHALLA - The American Civil Liberties Union says an Oconee County
councilman broke the law by ending his prayer dur ing a council
meeting by asking for wisdom, direction and guidance "in the name of
Jesus."
He should have said "In the name of Solomon":)
Solomon--like Jesus--was a direct descendant of David. Stupidity
isn't a virtue, Adolf.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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05 Nov 2005 01:08:54 PM |
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wrote:
Mike Painter wrote:
J Young wrote:
The ACLU will stop at nothing in their never ending fight against
those who wish to practice their religious beliefs. The last line of
the article only proves how provocative the ACLU really is.
As I mentioned in another post, it is easy to find ACLU lawsuits
defending the right of individuals to practice their religious views.
They even have filed a brief for Jerry Falwell.
But the bigots would never bother to actually find out what they are
complaining about.
How about "How come for the past 200 years prayers were said in
public places,
schools, courts etc. and it was considered normal, just like
Nativity scenes,
Easter, etc?" When did the ACLU (jew inc) decide it was harmful to
American
children and used their shekels to put a stop to it?
That period includes slavery, no protection for children, no rights for
women and no rights for blacks after eh civil war.
Those were wrong, just as mixing religion and politics is wrong.
Prayer can still be held in all the places you mentioned, they just can't be
supported or mandated by the government.
And if you actually found out about the ACLU you would know that.
The ACLU has specifically defended the rights of people to do all the things
you mention above.
However your comment about "jew inc" both tells us you are a bigot and gives
the reason why the ACLU does what it does.
You want *your* religion and *your* prayer to be the ones said.
"The county broke the law. Let's just be honest. You took an oath to
uphold the Constitution," said Deanhardt, dressed in a
slogan-covered T-shirt with an ACLU button and a hat that says,
"Hi, I'm your friendly neighborhood atheist."
What part of "breaking the law" do you need explained?
<snip>
He should have said "In the name of Solomon":)
"Painter"? Are you any relation to that Russian/jew anarchist "Peter
the Painter"
who, with a gang of jew anarchists entered England in 1911, made their
way to
the jew part of the East End in London and managed to murder English
policemen,
fireman, women and children in their attempt to bring anarchism to
England?
Most of them died in the fire they started, Peter Painter escaped
and made his way
back to Russia where he became a leading figure in the following
Bolshevik Revolution.
You apparently are not intelligent enough to know the difference between an
occupation and a surname.
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| User: "" |
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06 Nov 2005 09:27:47 PM |
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Mike Painter wrote:
Boedicia@isp.com wrote:
Mike Painter wrote:
J Young wrote:
The ACLU will stop at nothing in their never ending fight against
those who wish to practice their religious beliefs. The last line of
the article only proves how provocative the ACLU really is.
As I mentioned in another post, it is easy to find ACLU lawsuits
defending the right of individuals to practice their religious views.
They even have filed a brief for Jerry Falwell.
But the bigots would never bother to actually find out what they are
complaining about.
How about "How come for the past 200 years prayers were said in
public places,
schools, courts etc. and it was considered normal, just like
Nativity scenes,
Easter, etc?" When did the ACLU (jew inc) decide it was harmful to
American
children and used their shekels to put a stop to it?
That period includes slavery, no protection for children, no rights for
women and no rights for blacks after eh civil war.
Those were wrong, just as mixing religion and politics is wrong.
Prayer can still be held in all the places you mentioned, they just can't be
supported or mandated by the government.
And if you actually found out about the ACLU you would know that.
The ACLU has specifically defended the rights of people to do all the things
you mention above.
However your comment about "jew inc" both tells us you are a bigot and gives
the reason why the ACLU does what it does.
You want *your* religion and *your* prayer to be the ones said.
"The county broke the law. Let's just be honest. You took an oath to
uphold the Constitution," said Deanhardt, dressed in a
slogan-covered T-shirt with an ACLU button and a hat that says,
"Hi, I'm your friendly neighborhood atheist."
What part of "breaking the law" do you need explained?
<snip>
He should have said "In the name of Solomon":)
"Painter"? Are you any relation to that Russian/jew anarchist "Peter
the Painter"
who, with a gang of jew anarchists entered England in 1911, made their
way to
the jew part of the East End in London and managed to murder English
policemen,
fireman, women and children in their attempt to bring anarchism to
England?
Most of them died in the fire they started, Peter Painter escaped
and made his way
back to Russia where he became a leading figure in the following
Bolshevik Revolution.
You apparently are not intelligent enough to know the difference between an
occupation and a surname.
"Painter" *was* his name, but he was known as "Peter the
Painter". Is it a jew name?
He became very famous when the Boshevik Revolution started,
perhaps his murders
of British Christians had something to do with it. He was active
in the new Bolshie
government just like so many others of his tribe
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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10 Nov 2005 01:27:05 PM |
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wrote:
Mike Painter wrote:
wrote:
<snip>
You apparently are not intelligent enough to know the difference
between an occupation and a surname.
"Painter" *was* his name, but he was known as "Peter the
Painter". Is it a jew name?
As I said, you don't seem to know the difference between an occupation and a
surname.
" Peter the Painter -- or Peter Piatkow, a Latvian painter of street signs"
gleznotajs or krasotajs are latvian words for painter.
He became very famous when the Boshevik Revolution started,
perhaps his murders
of British Christians had something to do with it. He was active
in the new Bolshie
government just like so many others of his tribe
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| User: "" |
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11 Nov 2005 07:07:06 PM |
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Mike Painter wrote:
Boedicia@isp.com wrote:
Mike Painter wrote:
Boedicia@isp.com wrote:
<snip>
You apparently are not intelligent enough to know the difference
between an occupation and a surname.
"Painter" *was* his name, but he was known as "Peter the
Painter". Is it a jew name?
As I said, you don't seem to know the difference between an occupation and a
surname.
" Peter the Painter -- or Peter Piatkow, a Latvian painter of street signs"
gleznotajs or krasotajs are latvian words for painter.
Now listen carefully, I will say this only once. The jew
anarchist's name was "Painter".
However for some reason he was known as "Peter the Painter". Perhaps
that *was"
his profession since many jew names are also their profession, hence
so many
"Golds" and "Silvers" etc.
This particular "Painter" escaped the fate of the rests of the jew
anarchist killers
and made his way back to Russia where he (naturally) took part in the
Bolshevik Revolution and was able to kill a few more Christians when
the Bolshies came to power.
I suggest you do a search on "The Sidney St. Siege", although the
last time I
posted the details, the resident airhead "Susie" used her favourite
word "liar", it's
the only word she knows.
He became very famous when the Boshevik Revolution started,
perhaps his murders
of British Christians had something to do with it. He was active
in the new Bolshie
government just like so many others of his tribe
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| User: "" |
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11 Nov 2005 06:22:29 AM |
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On 10-Nov-2005, "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Boedicia@isp.com wrote:
Mike Painter wrote:
Boedicia@isp.com wrote:
<snip>
You apparently are not intelligent enough to know the difference
between an occupation and a surname.
"Painter" *was* his name, but he was known as "Peter the
Painter". Is it a jew name?
As I said, you don't seem to know the difference between an occupation and
a
surname.
She doesn't really care - she was only looking for a way to showcase her
pathetic Jew-hatred. Anyone who shows him/herself to be the slightest bit
more intelligent/informed than she, she calls a "jew [sic]." What the stupid
loser refuses to understand is that this makes almost the entire world
Jewish.
Susan
" Peter the Painter -- or Peter Piatkow, a Latvian painter of street
signs"
gleznotajs or krasotajs are latvian words for painter.
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| User: "" |
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11 Nov 2005 07:02:06 PM |
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wrote:
On 10-Nov-2005, "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Boedicia@isp.com wrote:
Mike Painter wrote:
Boedicia@isp.com wrote:
<snip>
You apparently are not intelligent enough to know the difference
between an occupation and a surname.
"Painter" *was* his name, but he was known as "Peter the
Painter". Is it a jew name?
As I said, you don't seem to know the difference between an occupation and
a
surname.
She doesn't really care - she was only looking for a way to showcase her
pathetic Jew-hatred. Anyone who shows him/herself to be the slightest bit
more intelligent/informed than she, she calls a "jew [sic]."
There isn't anyone in this NG who is more intelligent than me. As
a matter of fact
most of them including you moronic wannabes have the IQ's of broom
handles.
What the stupid loser refuses to understand is that this makes almost
the entire world
Jewish.
God forbid, it's bad enough with the 12 million on the planet as it
is. Now tell us
why you converted. Did someone twist your arm or were you born
stupid?
Susan
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| User: "Michael Martin-Smith" |
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13 Nov 2005 01:03:37 PM |
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"There isn't anyone in this NG who is more intelligent than me. As
a matter of fact
most of them including you moronic wannabes have the IQ's of broom
handles."
For the education and instruction of the rest of us humble mortals, I wonder
if you would be kind enough to tell us what this vast intellect has achieved
in practice. Nobel Prizes? Ground breaking scientific or medical
discoveries? Betterment, Amusement and Joy for all who are in contact with
you, perhaps? New artistic gems? Dazzling symphonies or dramas? New
philosophical or cosmological Insights?
Or is it all an idle boast before Mr Alzheimer steps in?
Remember, Pride comes before a fall!
Pray advise us, so that we may learn...
Michael Martin-Smith
<Boedicia@isp.com> wrote in message
news:1131757326.386585.237980@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:
On 10-Nov-2005, "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Boedicia@isp.com wrote:
Mike Painter wrote:
Boedicia@isp.com wrote:
<snip>
You apparently are not intelligent enough to know the difference
between an occupation and a surname.
"Painter" *was* his name, but he was known as "Peter the
Painter". Is it a jew name?
As I said, you don't seem to know the difference between an occupation
and
a
surname.
She doesn't really care - she was only looking for a way to showcase her
pathetic Jew-hatred. Anyone who shows him/herself to be the slightest
bit
more intelligent/informed than she, she calls a "jew [sic]."
There isn't anyone in this NG who is more intelligent than me. As
a matter of fact
most of them including you moronic wannabes have the IQ's of broom
handles.
What the stupid loser refuses to understand is that this makes almost
the entire world
Jewish.
God forbid, it's bad enough with the 12 million on the planet as it
is. Now tell us
why you converted. Did someone twist your arm or were you born
stupid?
Susan
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18 Nov 2005 09:38:19 PM |
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GOYIM ARE STUPID GENETICALLY.
"Michael Martin-Smith" <lagrangia@lagrangia.karoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:8TWdncrc_KgEC-reSa8jmw@karoo.co.uk...
"There isn't anyone in this NG who is more intelligent than me. As
a matter of fact
most of them including you moronic wannabes have the IQ's of broom
handles."
For the education and instruction of the rest of us humble mortals, I
wonder
if you would be kind enough to tell us what this vast intellect has
achieved
in practice. Nobel Prizes? Ground breaking scientific or medical
discoveries? Betterment, Amusement and Joy for all who are in contact
with
you, perhaps? New artistic gems? Dazzling symphonies or dramas? New
philosophical or cosmological Insights?
Or is it all an idle boast before Mr Alzheimer steps in?
Remember, Pride comes before a fall!
Pray advise us, so that we may learn...
Michael Martin-Smith
<Boedicia@isp.com> wrote in message
news:1131757326.386585.237980@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:
On 10-Nov-2005, "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Boedicia@isp.com wrote:
Mike Painter wrote:
Boedicia@isp.com wrote:
<snip>
You apparently are not intelligent enough to know the difference
between an occupation and a surname.
"Painter" *was* his name, but he was known as "Peter the
Painter". Is it a jew name?
As I said, you don't seem to know the difference between an
occupation
and
a
surname.
She doesn't really care - she was only looking for a way to showcase
her
pathetic Jew-hatred. Anyone who shows him/herself to be the slightest
bit
more intelligent/informed than she, she calls a "jew [sic]."
There isn't anyone in this NG who is more intelligent than me. As
a matter of fact
most of them including you moronic wannabes have the IQ's of broom
handles.
What the stupid loser refuses to understand is that this makes almost
the entire world
Jewish.
God forbid, it's bad enough with the 12 million on the planet as it
is. Now tell us
why you converted. Did someone twist your arm or were you born
stupid?
Susan
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20 Nov 2005 01:53:49 AM |
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On 18-Nov-2005, "gab" <gab@realitymail.> wrote:
"Michael Martin-Smith" <lagrangia@lagrangia.karoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:8TWdncrc_KgEC-reSa8jmw@karoo.co.uk...
"There isn't anyone in this NG who is more intelligent than me. As
a matter of fact
most of them including you moronic wannabes have the IQ's of broom
handles."
For the education and instruction of the rest of us humble mortals, I
wonder
if you would be kind enough to tell us what this vast intellect has
achieved
in practice.
Not even a decent education in grammar, from that very first sentence of
hers.
If she wanted to lie *correctly*, she would have said "... more intelligent
than I."
Susan
Nobel Prizes? Ground breaking scientific or medical
discoveries? Betterment, Amusement and Joy for all who are in contact
with
you, perhaps? New artistic gems? Dazzling symphonies or dramas? New
philosophical or cosmological Insights?
Or is it all an idle boast before Mr Alzheimer steps in?
Remember, Pride comes before a fall!
Pray advise us, so that we may learn...
Michael Martin-Smith
<Boedicia@isp.com> wrote in message
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| User: "Michael Martin-Smith" |
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| Title: Re: Councilman's prayer violated law |
12 Nov 2005 10:06:06 AM |
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What the stupid loser refuses to understand is that this makes almost
the entire world
Jewish.
Now, that would be interesting! A bit unlikely however.
It is however probable that there are many more people of Jewish descent in
Europe and America than is commonly recognised, since over history at least
5 in every 6 have assimilated themselves. Under Caesar Augustus, 10 % of the
Roman Empire's population are believed to have been Jews- converts or native
born . Many of these switched their allegaince to Christianity over ensuing
centuries but, in the racialist viewpoint , would still be accounted Jews
So,we may well have 120 millions rather than 12 millions.
That's going to require a deal too much work by any would-be exterminators.
I think you're all going to have to find a way to live with them unless we
can domesticate a few planets.
Sweet Dreams...
<Boedicia@isp.com> wrote in message
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flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:
On 10-Nov-2005, "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Boedicia@isp.com wrote:
Mike Painter wrote:
Boedicia@isp.com wrote:
<snip>
You apparently are not intelligent enough to know the difference
between an occupation and a surname.
"Painter" *was* his name, but he was known as "Peter the
Painter". Is it a jew name?
As I said, you don't seem to know the difference between an occupation
and
a
surname.
She doesn't really care - she was only looking for a way to showcase her
pathetic Jew-hatred. Anyone who shows him/herself to be the slightest
bit
more intelligent/informed than she, she calls a "jew [sic]."
There isn't anyone in this NG who is more intelligent than me. As
a matter of fact
most of them including you moronic wannabes have the IQ's of broom
handles.
What the stupid loser refuses to understand is that this makes almost
the entire world
Jewish.
God forbid, it's bad enough with the 12 million on the planet as it
is. Now tell us
why you converted. Did someone twist your arm or were you born
stupid?
Susan
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Councilman's prayer violated law |
05 Nov 2005 07:04:37 PM |
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On 5-Nov-2005, "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Boedicia@isp.com wrote:
Mike Painter wrote:
J Young wrote:
The ACLU will stop at nothing in their never ending fight against
those who wish to practice their religious beliefs. The last line of
the article only proves how provocative the ACLU really is.
As I mentioned in another post, it is easy to find ACLU lawsuits
defending the right of individuals to practice their religious views.
They even have filed a brief for Jerry Falwell.
But the bigots would never bother to actually find out what they are
complaining about.
How about "How come for the past 200 years prayers were said in
public places,
schools, courts etc. and it was considered normal, just like
Nativity scenes,
Easter, etc?" When did the ACLU (jew inc) decide it was harmful to
American
children and used their shekels
Gee, if only Jews were as powerful as lying bigots pretended we were.
to put a stop to it?
That period includes slavery, no protection for children, no rights for
women and no rights for blacks after eh civil war.
She is too stupid to realize that the period she is whining aout was not
only before the ACLU, but the impetus for it.
Susan
Those were wrong, just as mixing religion and politics is wrong.
Prayer can still be held in all the places you mentioned, they just can't
be
supported or mandated by the government.
And if you actually found out about the ACLU you would know that.
The ACLU has specifically defended the rights of people to do all the
things
you mention above.
However your comment about "jew inc" both tells us you are a bigot and
gives
the reason why the ACLU does what it does.
You want *your* religion and *your* prayer to be the ones said.
"The county broke the law. Let's just be honest. You took an oath to
uphold the Constitution," said Deanhardt, dressed in a
slogan-covered T-shirt with an ACLU button and a hat that says,
"Hi, I'm your friendly neighborhood atheist."
What part of "breaking the law" do you need explained?
<snip>
He should have said "In the name of Solomon":)
"Painter"? Are you any relation to that Russian/jew anarchist "Peter
the Painter"
who, with a gang of jew anarchists entered England in 1911, made their
way to
the jew part of the East End in London and managed to murder English
policemen,
fireman, women and children in their attempt to bring anarchism to
England?
Most of them died in the fire they started, Peter Painter escaped
and made his way
back to Russia where he became a leading figure in the following
Bolshevik Revolution.
You apparently are not intelligent enough to know the difference between
an
occupation and a surname.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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05 Nov 2005 05:44:05 PM |
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In <1131174721.522176.238510@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Boedicia@isp.com" <Boedicia@isp.com> wrote:
Mike Painter wrote:
J Young wrote:
The ACLU will stop at nothing in their never ending fight against
those who wish to practice their religious beliefs. The last line of
the article only proves how provocative the ACLU really is.
As I mentioned in another post, it is easy to find ACLU lawsuits
defending the right of individuals to practice their religious views.
They even have filed a brief for Jerry Falwell.
But the bigots would never bother to actually find out what they are
complaining about.
How about "How come for the past 200 years prayers were said in
public places,
schools, courts etc. and it was considered normal, just like
Nativity scenes,
Easter, etc?"
Yeah. Not to mention the genocidal conquest of natives, enslavement of
blacks, oppression of women, and violence against minority religious
groups were also considered normal.
You've convinced me. The more we enforce the separation of church and
state, the better it is for everybody.
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"We're angry, Mr. President, and we'll be angry long
after our beloved city and surrounding parishes have
been pumped dry. Our people deserved rescuing.
Many who could have been were not. That's to the
government's shame."
http://www.nola.com/
"FEMA email warned of disaster"
http://makeashorterlink.com/?C5332250C
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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04 Nov 2005 11:10:13 PM |
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J Young wrote:
The ACLU will stop at nothing in their never ending fight against those
who wish to practice their religious beliefs.
Religious beliefs have to stay out of political decision processes (like
council meetings). Not that you, obviously a true masochrist, will ever
realize that.
Furthermore, if that councilman practically threatened to resign if he
wouldn't be allowed to pray, that's another violation of separation of
chruch and state.
Go ahead and scream "persecution" while you fundy bastards practically
persecute everyone else. Hypocrite.
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove,
And gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer,
And fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
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| User: "Del" |
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05 Nov 2005 01:05:06 AM |
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J Young wrote:
The ACLU will stop at nothing in their never ending fight against those who
wish to practice their religious beliefs.
Yes, Christians should be able to offer official prayer
at tax payer funded functions ( They would, of course,
violently object to an equivalent satanic ritual in the
same circumstances). Not doing so is a form of
persecution. In fact any time you don't accord Christians
special rights and privileges it is persecution. Probably
a hate crime too.
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| User: "nafc" |
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05 Nov 2005 06:23:08 PM |
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"Del" <jfacts@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:1131174306.890422.267230@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
J Young wrote:
The ACLU will stop at nothing in their never ending fight against those
who
wish to practice their religious beliefs.
Yes, Christians should be able to offer official prayer
at tax payer funded functions ( They would, of course,
violently object to an equivalent satanic ritual in the
same circumstances). Not doing so is a form of
persecution. In fact any time you don't accord Christians
special rights and privileges it is persecution. Probably
a hate crime too.
To them 'freedom of religion' only means 'freedom of Christianity' and
nobody else.
nafc
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU: Councilman's prayer violated law |
05 Nov 2005 08:30:50 PM |
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nafc wrote:
"Del" <jfacts@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:1131174306.890422.267230@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
J Young wrote:
The ACLU will stop at nothing in their never ending fight against
those who
wish to practice their religious beliefs.
Yes, Christians should be able to offer official prayer
at tax payer funded functions ( They would, of course,
violently object to an equivalent satanic ritual in the
same circumstances). Not doing so is a form of
persecution. In fact any time you don't accord Christians
special rights and privileges it is persecution. Probably
a hate crime too.
To them 'freedom of religion' only means 'freedom of Christianity' and
nobody else.
Close. Freedom of *my* particular sect of Christianity.
Most believe all the others are damned to hell and if given enough power
would make it hell for them here.
I've seen what the JW elders do to members of their own church if they don't
obey.
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| User: "nafc" |
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06 Nov 2005 12:32:35 PM |
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"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:uVdbf.9949$D13.1713@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
nafc wrote:
"Del" <jfacts@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:1131174306.890422.267230@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
J Young wrote:
The ACLU will stop at nothing in their never ending fight against
those who
wish to practice their religious beliefs.
Yes, Christians should be able to offer official prayer
at tax payer funded functions ( They would, of course,
violently object to an equivalent satanic ritual in the
same circumstances). Not doing so is a form of
persecution. In fact any time you don't accord Christians
special rights and privileges it is persecution. Probably
a hate crime too.
To them 'freedom of religion' only means 'freedom of Christianity' and
nobody else.
Close. Freedom of *my* particular sect of Christianity.
Most believe all the others are damned to hell and if given enough power
would make it hell for them here.
I've seen what the JW elders do to members of their own church if they
don't obey.
I stand corrected. I was raised Roman Catholic and I know that a lot of
fundies believe the Catholic Church is a cult and Catholics are going to
hell. So, if I didn't become an atheist I still would have damned to hell.
nafc
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| User: "Del" |
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07 Nov 2005 12:57:18 AM |
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nafc wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:uVdbf.9949$D13.1713@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
nafc wrote:
"Del" <jfacts@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:1131174306.890422.267230@o13g2000cwo.googleg roups.com...
J Young wrote:
The ACLU will stop at nothing in their never ending fight against
those who
wish to practice their religious beliefs.
Yes, Christians should be able to offer official prayer
a t tax payer funded functions ( They would, of course,
violently object to an equivalent satanic ritual in the
same circumstances). Not doing so is a form of
persecution. In fact any time you don't accord Christians
special rights and privileges it is persecution. Probably
a hate crime too.
To them 'freedom of religion' only means 'freedom of Christianity' and
nobody else.
Close. Freedom of *my* particular sect of Christianity.
Most believ e all the others are damned to hell and if given enough power
would make it hell for them here.
I've seen what the JW elders do to members of their own church if they
don't obey.
I stand corrected. I was raised Roman Catholic and I know that a lot of
fundies believe the Catholic Church is a cult and Catholics are going to
hell. So, if I didn't become an atheist I still would have damned to hell.
Hahahahahahahaha! Good point. d
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU: Councilman's prayer violated law |
13 Nov 2005 04:44:54 PM |
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Mike Painter wrote:
nafc wrote:
"Del" <jfacts@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:1131174306.890422.267230@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
J Young wrote:
The ACLU will stop at nothing in their never ending fight against
those who
wish to practice their religious beliefs.
Yes, Christians should be able to offer official prayer
at tax payer funded functions ( They would, of course,
violently object to an equivalent satanic ritual in the
same circumstances). Not doing so is a form of
persecution. In fact any time you don't accord Christians
special rights and privileges it is persecution. Probably
a hate crime too.
To them 'freedom of religion' only means 'freedom of Christianity' and
nobody else.
Close. Freedom of *my* particular sect of Christianity.
And what sect *is* your particular brand of Christianity?
Most believe all the others are damned to hell and if given enough power
would make it hell for them here.
I've seen what the JW elders do to members of their own church if they don't
obey.
And what jews do to their offspring if they marry out of their race.
Ask Edwina Curry.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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13 Nov 2005 07:30:31 PM |
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wrote:
Mike Painter wrote:
nafc wrote:
"Del" <jfacts@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:1131174306.890422.267230@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
J Young wrote:
The ACLU will stop at nothing in their never ending fight against
those who
wish to practice their religious beliefs.
Yes, Christians should be able to offer official prayer
at tax payer funded functions ( They would, of course,
violently object to an equivalent satanic ritual in the
same circumstances). Not doing so is a form of
persecution. In fact any time you don't accord Christians
special rights and privileges it is persecution. Probably
a hate crime too.
To them 'freedom of religion' only means 'freedom of Christianity'
and nobody else.
Close. Freedom of *my* particular sect of Christianity.
And what sect *is* your particular brand of Christianity?
I'm an atheist.
I don't believe in any of the different versions of the gods of
christianity.
Most believe all the others are damned to hell and if given enough
power would make it hell for them here.
I've seen what the JW elders do to members of their own church if
they don't obey.
And what jews do to their offspring if they marry out of their race.
Ask Edwina Curry.
Judaism is a religion, not a race.
Why are you changing the subject?
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| User: "" |
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14 Nov 2005 03:51:06 PM |
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Mike Painter wrote:
Boedicia@isp.com wrote:
Mike Painter wrote:
nafc wrote:
"Del" <jfacts@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:1131174306.890422.267230@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
J Young wrote:
The ACLU will stop at nothing in their never ending fight against
those who
wish to practice their religious beliefs.
Yes, Christians should be able to offer official prayer
at tax payer funded functions ( They would, of course,
violently object to an equivalent satanic ritual in the
same circumstances). Not doing so is a form of
persecution. In fact any time you don't accord Christians
special rights and privileges it is persecution. Probably
a hate crime too.
To them 'freedom of religion' only means 'freedom of Christianity'
and nobody else.
Close. Freedom of *my* particular sect of Christianity.
And what sect *is* your particular brand of Christianity?
I'm an atheist.
Nice dodge:)
I don't believe in any of the different versions of the gods of
christianity.
How about the different versions of the gods of the jews?
Most believe all the others are damned to hell and if given enough
power would make it hell for them here.
I've seen what the JW elders do to members of their own church if
they don't obey.
And what jews do to their offspring if they marry out of their race.
Ask Edwina Curry.
Judaism is a religion, not a race.
I know of no "religion" where those who practise it have their
own racial features.
their own foods, their own language and even their own country.
Why are you changing the subject?
What subject would *that* be, the ACLU ( jew inc)?
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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14 Nov 2005 05:16:48 PM |
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wrote:
And what sect *is* your particular brand of Christianity?
I'm an atheist.
Nice dodge:)
I don't believe in any of the different versions of the gods of
christianity.
How about the different versions of the gods of the jews?
I was speaking of modern times. The Jews have worshiped a single god (of
Abraham) for quite a few centuries.
Some minor sects of christianity do also, seeing Christ as a prophet.
Most worship some version of a trinity and that has two or three variations
depending on when christ, the god, came into existance.
<snip>
Judaism is a religion, not a race.
I know of no "religion" where those who practise it have their
own racial features.
their own foods, their own language and even their own country.
Then you don't know very much about the subject and are ignorant of the
world in general.
Why are you changing the subject?
What subject would *that* be, the ACLU ( jew inc)?
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| User: "" |
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14 Nov 2005 11:23:21 PM |
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Mike Painter wrote:
Boedicia@isp.com wrote:
And what sect *is* your particular brand of Christianity?
I'm an atheist.
Nice dodge:)
I don't believe in any of the different versions of the gods of
christianity.
How about the different versions of the gods of the jews?
I was speaking of modern times. The Jews have worshiped a single god (of
Abraham) for quite a few centuries.
Some minor sects of christianity do also, seeing Christ as a prophet.
Most worship some version of a trinity and that has two or three variations
depending on when christ, the god, came into existance.
<snip>
Judaism is a religion, not a race.
I know of no "religion" where those who practise it have their
own racial features. their own foods, their own language and even their own country.
Then you don't know very much about the subject and are ignorant of the
world in general.
I have travelled around the world more than once, including 6 months
in Israel.
Tell us what *your* knowledge of the world covers. Now what
"subject" were you referring to? Their racial features, foods,
language etc? If they are not a race,
what are they?
However you claim to be an atheist so your knowledge of religion,
*any* religion
amounts to nothing. What is *your* race/ethnicity?
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| User: "Del" |
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15 Nov 2005 08:33:35 AM |
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wrote:
However you claim to be an atheist so your knowledge of religion,
*any* religion
amounts to nothing.
I bet he knows that I Sam isn't in the New Testament.
What is *your* race/ethnicity?
Yeah and what is your astrological sign too. And let Tricksy here
feel the bumps on your head. Here ya go, sweetie, this ought to
***** you off no end:
AAA recommends "race" be scrapped; suggests new
government categories.
ARLINGTON, VA--The US Government should phase out use
of the term "race" in the collection of federal data
because the concept has no scientific justification in
human biology, according to a statement released today
by the American Anthropological Association (AAA).
Instead of race, ethnic categories which better reflect
the diversity of the US population should be used. The
AAA statement includes five recommendations for changes
in the way the government collects information about
its citizens. It addresses the federal Office of
Management and Budget (OMB) Directive 15, which
designates racial and ethnic categories used in the US
census and in innumerable other public and private
research projects.
"There are many misunderstandings associated with
notions of race and ethnicity. The AAA advocates a more
scientific and realistic approach to how the federal
government categorizes Americans, and thus how
Americans identify themselves," said Mary Margaret
Overbey, Ph.D., AAA Director of Government Relations.
"The proposed Directive 15 revisions are not
significantly different from 20 years ago. Should
Americans still be characterized in the same way for
the new millennium and beyond?"
The recommendations outlined by the AAA include the
immediate need for the OMB to combine the now-separate
"race" and "ethnicity" questions into one question for
the 2000 Census, and to eliminate "race" by the time
planning begins for the 2010 Census. Respondents should
also be allowed to identify more than one category in
reporting their ancestry. Additionally, the AAA
advocates more research to determine what terms best
capture human variability in ways best understood by
the American people.
Developed in 1977, Directive 15 describes four races
(Native American or Alaskan Native; Asian or Pacific
Islander; Black; and White) and two ethnic categories
(of Hispanic origin and not of Hispanic origin).
Although the Directive notes the absence of scientific
or anthropological foundations in its formulation, race
and ethnic categories are used in federal scientific
research and, as such, serve as a basis for
interpreting research findings, ranging from biomedical
to economic research. However, race and ethnicity
categories used by the US Census have changed over time
and rely upon an inconsistent mixture of principles and
criteria, including national origin, language, minority
status and physical characteristics. Since 1900, 26
different racial terms have been used to identify
populations on the US Census.
The concept of race is a social and cultural
construction, with no basis in human biology--race can
simply not be tested or proven scientifically,
according to the AAA. In fact, many Americans do not
understand differences between race, ethnicity and
ancestry categories in surveys, and fail to distinguish
between them.
Probably the clearest data on human variation come from
genetic studies. Genetic data do show differences
between groups, and these can potentially trace an
individual's likely geographic origin. This can be
helpful in such applications as health screening.
Nevertheless, the data also show that any two
individuals within a particular population are as
different genetically as any two people selected from
any two populations in the world.
Anthropologists are well qualified to speak on this
issue. As an academic and applied discipline,
anthropologists have been researching human variation
for over 100 years. Founded in 1902, the AAA is the
world's largest organization of individuals interested
in anthropology, and has nearly 11,000 members.
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Hahahahahahaha!
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