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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: ""
Date: 09 Aug 2006 11:20:40 AM
Object: ACLU Questions State Trooper Over Illegal Alien Arrest
The anti-American Civil Liberties Union will not be happy until Osama Bin
Laden himself is honored with a parade down Pennsylvania Avenue.
http://stoptheaclu.com/
A Rhode Island State Police trooper was following procedure when he asked 14
passengers in a van - all illegal immigrants - to produce identification
following a traffic stop on Route 95, state police officials say.
Rhode Island's chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union feels
differently.
On July 11, at about 6:30 a.m., Trooper Thomas Chabot pulled a van over
because the driver allegedly failed to use his turn signal while switching
lanes on Interstate 95, said State Police spokesman Maj. Steven O'Donnell.
After Chabot spoke with the driver, O'Donnell said the trooper asked all the
passengers in the van for identification. When none of them could produce a
driver's license, he questioned the passengers, who told him they were in
the country illegally, O'Donnell said.
The trooper then called Immigration and Customs Enforcement and escorted the
van to ICE headquarters in Providence. All of the illegal immigrants are
awaiting deportation hearings, said O'Donnell.
The ACLU, however, has since complained that the trooper didn't have just
cause to ask the passengers in the van for identification and may have been
practicing racial profiling when he stopped the van..
"It's hard to understand why a state trooper who was on radar patrol would
go out of his way to stop a van solely for failure to put on a turn signal.
If troopers did that everyday on Route 95, they wouldn't have time to stop
anybody for speeding," said Steven Brown, executive director of the Rhode
Island affiliate of the American Civil Liberties Union. "That at least
raises a suspicion that the appearance of the driver or then passengers led
to the stop."
"In 2004, the United States Supreme Court ruled that for the safety of the
officers, it's incumbent on them to know who they're dealing with when they
stop a car," O'Donnell said. "The court ruling establishes that police can
ask passengers for identification during a traffic stop."
--
----------
J Yöung
youngopinions@aol.com
.

User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: ACLU Questions State Trooper Over Illegal Arrest 10 Aug 2006 02:23:57 AM
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


The anti-American Civil Liberties Union will not be happy until Osama Bin
Laden himself is honored with a parade down Pennsylvania Avenue.

The same bin Laden that is free thanks to George W. Bush?

http://stoptheaclu.com/
A Rhode Island State Police trooper was following procedure when he asked 14
passengers in a van - all illegal immigrants - to produce identification
following a traffic stop on Route 95, state police officials say.
Rhode Island's chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union feels
differently.

This country is not yet the fascist police state you long for, and the
police do not have the power to demand people's papers anytime they
please.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Reasoned Insanity"

Title: Re: ACLU Questions State Trooper Over Illegal Arrest 10 Aug 2006 08:31:14 PM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:44dadf0d$0$34487$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


The anti-American Civil Liberties Union will not be happy until Osama Bin
Laden himself is honored with a parade down Pennsylvania Avenue.


The same bin Laden that is free thanks to George W. Bush?

The very same. Also the same one who could have been served to Clinton on a
platter.

http://stoptheaclu.com/
A Rhode Island State Police trooper was following procedure when he asked
14
passengers in a van - all illegal immigrants - to produce identification
following a traffic stop on Route 95, state police officials say.
Rhode Island's chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union feels
differently.


This country is not yet the fascist police state you long for, and the
police do not have the power to demand people's papers anytime they
please.

Quite correct. They only support a fascist police state that fits their own
agenda.
.
User: "Curt"

Title: Re: ACLU Questions State Trooper Over Illegal Arrest 10 Aug 2006 11:37:46 PM
"Reasoned Insanity" <mintclovers@@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:44dadf0d$0$34487$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


The anti-American Civil Liberties Union will not be happy until Osama

Bin

Laden himself is honored with a parade down Pennsylvania Avenue.


The same bin Laden that is free thanks to George W. Bush?


The very same. Also the same one who could have been served to Clinton on

a

platter.

I keep hearing that. But every time I try to find the story on Google, it
turns out to be *****. It's, like, this FOX viewer urban myth.
Curt
.
User: "Reasoned Insanity"

Title: Re: ACLU Questions State Trooper Over Illegal Arrest 11 Aug 2006 05:33:24 PM
"Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> wrote in message
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"Reasoned Insanity" <mintclovers@@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:44dadf0d$0$34487$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


The anti-American Civil Liberties Union will not be happy until Osama

Bin

Laden himself is honored with a parade down Pennsylvania Avenue.


The same bin Laden that is free thanks to George W. Bush?


The very same. Also the same one who could have been served to Clinton on

a

platter.


I keep hearing that. But every time I try to find the story on Google, it
turns out to be *****. It's, like, this FOX viewer urban myth.

Curt

msnbc is somewhat reputable. Will that suffice?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4540958/
Or were you looking for proof that Bin Laden would be dead had Bush kept
hunting for him? I would have to say that at the best, there is nothing but
speculation on whether or not we would have caught him. I personally believe
that we would have been more aggressive. Asking if we would have caught him
had Bush kept after him is like asking if Kennedy would have been saved had
we known about Lee Harvey Oswald.
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: ACLU Questions State Trooper Over Illegal Arrest 20 Aug 2006 08:11:49 AM
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 17:33:24 -0500, Reasoned Insanity wrote:

"Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> wrote in message
news:12do1r451t9etb7@corp.supernews.com...


"Reasoned Insanity" <mintclovers@@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:s7RCg.15556$PO.4053@dukeread03...


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:44dadf0d$0$34487$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


The anti-American Civil Liberties Union will not be happy until
Osama

Bin

Laden himself is honored with a parade down Pennsylvania Avenue.


The same bin Laden that is free thanks to George W. Bush?


The very same. Also the same one who could have been served to Clinton
on

a

platter.


I keep hearing that. But every time I try to find the story on Google,
it turns out to be *****. It's, like, this FOX viewer urban myth.

Curt


msnbc is somewhat reputable. Will that suffice?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4540958/

Or were you looking for proof that Bin Laden would be dead had Bush kept
hunting for him? I would have to say that at the best, there is nothing
but speculation on whether or not we would have caught him. I personally
believe that we would have been more aggressive. Asking if we would have
caught him had Bush kept after him is like asking if Kennedy would have
been saved had we known about Lee Harvey Oswald.

Let's see...
"The tape shows a man believed to Osama bin Laden walking at a known
al-Qaida camp."
Believed to be.
So you wanted Clinton to attack another nation militarily because we
"believed" we saw bin Laden?
I like this...
"You see a tall man... You see him surrounded by or at least protected by
a group of guards."
Um, well, that settles it! He's tall! And, there are people with him!
And then...
"What's more, Clinton was weakened by scandal, and there was no political
consensus for bold action, especially with an election weeks away."
The Republican Congress was undermining Clinton at every step. It was more
important to them to chase stained dresses than address whether we should
be doing something about terrorism. The times Clinton did use the military
for anything, he was attacked in Congress and at times accused of "wagging
the dog" to distract from the Lewinsky scandal.
But that's the Congress you say he should have gone to and asked for the
authority to wage a military action in another country that--at that
point--had done nothing to us. In fact, the Taliban themselves never did
anything to us. Post-9/11, the issue was that they were not cooperating in
the campaign to capture bin Laden.
People who yap about Clinton conveniently ignore that the Congress was
working against him every step and even went so far as to try impeachment
over a *****. As the article points out, there was "no political
consensus for bold action."
In our system, Congress has the power to wage war. The President only
executes the law. The *power* is in Congress. If you're going to ask who
didn't act, well, Congress was the only one who could.
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
.
User: "Reasoned Insanity"

Title: Re: ACLU Questions State Trooper Over Illegal Arrest 01 Sep 2006 04:56:08 PM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:naednX-1gPoIwnXZnZ2dnUVZ_ridnZ2d@megapath.net...

On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 17:33:24 -0500, Reasoned Insanity wrote:

"Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> wrote in message
news:12do1r451t9etb7@corp.supernews.com...


"Reasoned Insanity" <mintclovers@@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:s7RCg.15556$PO.4053@dukeread03...


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:44dadf0d$0$34487$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


The anti-American Civil Liberties Union will not be happy until
Osama

Bin

Laden himself is honored with a parade down Pennsylvania Avenue.


The same bin Laden that is free thanks to George W. Bush?


The very same. Also the same one who could have been served to Clinton
on

a

platter.


I keep hearing that. But every time I try to find the story on Google,
it turns out to be *****. It's, like, this FOX viewer urban myth.

Curt


msnbc is somewhat reputable. Will that suffice?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4540958/

Or were you looking for proof that Bin Laden would be dead had Bush kept
hunting for him? I would have to say that at the best, there is nothing
but speculation on whether or not we would have caught him. I personally
believe that we would have been more aggressive. Asking if we would have
caught him had Bush kept after him is like asking if Kennedy would have
been saved had we known about Lee Harvey Oswald.


Let's see...

"The tape shows a man believed to Osama bin Laden walking at a known
al-Qaida camp."

Believed to be.

So you wanted Clinton to attack another nation militarily because we
"believed" we saw bin Laden?

I like this...

"You see a tall man... You see him surrounded by or at least protected by
a group of guards."

Um, well, that settles it! He's tall! And, there are people with him!

And then...

"What's more, Clinton was weakened by scandal, and there was no political
consensus for bold action, especially with an election weeks away."

The Republican Congress was undermining Clinton at every step. It was more
important to them to chase stained dresses than address whether we should
be doing something about terrorism. The times Clinton did use the military
for anything, he was attacked in Congress and at times accused of "wagging
the dog" to distract from the Lewinsky scandal.

But that's the Congress you say he should have gone to and asked for the
authority to wage a military action in another country that--at that
point--had done nothing to us. In fact, the Taliban themselves never did
anything to us. Post-9/11, the issue was that they were not cooperating in
the campaign to capture bin Laden.

People who yap about Clinton conveniently ignore that the Congress was
working against him every step and even went so far as to try impeachment
over a *****. As the article points out, there was "no political
consensus for bold action."

In our system, Congress has the power to wage war. The President only
executes the law. The *power* is in Congress. If you're going to ask who
didn't act, well, Congress was the only one who could.

Clinton was the best president that Chinese money could buy.
.
User: "Curt"

Title: Re: ACLU Questions State Trooper Over Illegal Arrest 01 Sep 2006 06:31:15 PM
"Reasoned Insanity" <mintclovers@@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
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On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 17:33:24 -0500, Reasoned Insanity wrote:

"Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> wrote in message
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"Reasoned Insanity" <mintclovers@@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:44dadf0d$0$34487$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


The anti-American Civil Liberties Union will not be happy until
Osama

Bin

Laden himself is honored with a parade down Pennsylvania Avenue.


The same bin Laden that is free thanks to George W. Bush?


The very same. Also the same one who could have been served to

Clinton

on

a

platter.


I keep hearing that. But every time I try to find the story on Google,
it turns out to be *****. It's, like, this FOX viewer urban myth.

Curt


msnbc is somewhat reputable. Will that suffice?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4540958/

I didn't get Insanity's post, Mark, so I'm going to respond to it by way of
yours.
Hey, Insanity, it almost seems like you think that back in 2000, Clinton
should have sent cruise missiles into another country to kill a guy that
might have been a terrorist.
If Clinton had done so, what do you think the weenies' reactions might have
been? Oh, wait, we can know the answer to that by looking at what they said
when he bombed the alleged poison gas factory. "Wag the dog", "Monica", etc
etc. And, let's bear in mind that by 2000, only a very few people knew who
Osama was. Clinton did, law enforcement did, the intelligence community did.
You certainly didn't. Rush Limbaugh probably didn't, and so forth. Would
Clinton have been able to get the support from Congress (remember, by now
the weenies controlled Congress) to launch a war on a foreign country, to
kill a guy the weenies didn't really know or care anything about?
No, Clinton wanted the guy alive. You can argue that was a mistake, fine,
whatever. But let's bear in mind that Your Guy -- bush The Lesser -- had
zero interest in catching the guy at all. So little interest, in fact, that
the guy was able to pull off his biggest plot ever or since.
So don't try to blame any Osama stuff on Clinton's admin. They were
(successfully) doing as much as they could do -- which was more than the
bush The Lesser admin CHOSE to do after they were elected (sic).
Curt
.
User: "Emmanual Kann"

Title: Re: ACLU Questions State Trooper Over Illegal Arrest 01 Sep 2006 09:33:35 PM
An Fri, 01 Sep 2006 16:31:15 -0700, Curt hat geschreibt:


I didn't get Insanity's post, Mark, so I'm going to respond to it by way of
yours.

Hey, Insanity, it almost seems like you think that back in 2000, Clinton
should have sent cruise missiles into another country to kill a guy that
might have been a terrorist.

If Clinton had done so, what do you think the weenies' reactions might have
been? Oh, wait, we can know the answer to that by looking at what they said
when he bombed the alleged poison gas factory. "Wag the dog", "Monica", etc
etc. And, let's bear in mind that by 2000, only a very few people knew who
Osama was. Clinton did, law enforcement did, the intelligence community did.
You certainly didn't. Rush Limbaugh probably didn't, and so forth.

Good point!
Just think about how WWII would have gone with Bush as PM of England.
Hitler annexes Austria and the Sudentenland, Bush responds by invading
Iraq so he can pull his army bases out of Saudi Arabia.
I'm pretty sure that Bush knew Osama, their fathers are close friends.
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: ACLU Questions State Trooper Over Illegal Arrest 02 Sep 2006 06:38:46 AM
On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 02:33:35 +0000, Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Fri, 01 Sep 2006 16:31:15 -0700, Curt hat geschreibt:


I didn't get Insanity's post, Mark, so I'm going to respond to it by way of
yours.

Hey, Insanity, it almost seems like you think that back in 2000, Clinton
should have sent cruise missiles into another country to kill a guy that
might have been a terrorist.

If Clinton had done so, what do you think the weenies' reactions might have
been? Oh, wait, we can know the answer to that by looking at what they said
when he bombed the alleged poison gas factory. "Wag the dog", "Monica", etc
etc. And, let's bear in mind that by 2000, only a very few people knew who
Osama was. Clinton did, law enforcement did, the intelligence community did.
You certainly didn't. Rush Limbaugh probably didn't, and so forth.


Good point!

Just think about how WWII would have gone with Bush as PM of England.
Hitler annexes Austria and the Sudentenland, Bush responds by invading
Iraq so he can pull his army bases out of Saudi Arabia.

I'm pretty sure that Bush knew Osama, their fathers are close friends.

The funny thing being there are more "connections" between Bush and bin
Laden than there ever were between Iraq and bin Laden. I mean, the bin
Laden family has to keep saying "we don't have anything to do with Osama"
over and over and very loudly.
You do have to wonder how much of the money used to attack us came from
those joint deals between the Bush and bin Laden families...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
.
User: "Emmanual Kann"

Title: Re: ACLU Questions State Trooper Over Illegal Arrest 03 Sep 2006 05:29:59 PM
An Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:38:46 +0000, Mark K. Bilbo hat geschreibt:

You do have to wonder how much of the money used to attack us came from
those joint deals between the Bush and bin Laden families...

One thing you don't have to wonder about is that the one demand Osama bin
Landen made on 9/11, that the US pull it's bases out of Saudi Arabia, is a
fact. Bush has already appeased the terrorists. This is the one thing he
did to protect America from terrorism.
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: ACLU Questions State Trooper Over Illegal Arrest 03 Sep 2006 10:17:50 PM
On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:29:59 +0000, Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:38:46 +0000, Mark K. Bilbo hat geschreibt:

You do have to wonder how much of the money used to attack us came from
those joint deals between the Bush and bin Laden families...


One thing you don't have to wonder about is that the one demand Osama bin
Landen made on 9/11, that the US pull it's bases out of Saudi Arabia, is a
fact. Bush has already appeased the terrorists. This is the one thing he
did to protect America from terrorism.

Funny that the administration talking "appeasement" is the administration
that did what bin Laden wanted...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: ACLU Questions State Trooper Over Illegal Arrest 03 Sep 2006 10:20:59 PM
In article <7u6dnZ48WatDB2bZnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@megapath.net>, Mark K.
Bilbo <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:29:59 +0000, Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:38:46 +0000, Mark K. Bilbo hat geschreibt:

You do have to wonder how much of the money used to attack us came from
those joint deals between the Bush and bin Laden families...


One thing you don't have to wonder about is that the one demand Osama bin
Landen made on 9/11, that the US pull it's bases out of Saudi Arabia, is a
fact. Bush has already appeased the terrorists. This is the one thing he
did to protect America from terrorism.


Funny that the administration talking "appeasement" is the administration
that did what bin Laden wanted...

Along with turning Iraq into a terrorist training ground.
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: ACLU Questions State Trooper Over Illegal Arrest 04 Sep 2006 07:17:07 AM
On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 03:20:59 +0000, David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <7u6dnZ48WatDB2bZnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@megapath.net>, Mark K.
Bilbo <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:29:59 +0000, Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:38:46 +0000, Mark K. Bilbo hat geschreibt:

You do have to wonder how much of the money used to attack us came from
those joint deals between the Bush and bin Laden families...


One thing you don't have to wonder about is that the one demand Osama bin
Landen made on 9/11, that the US pull it's bases out of Saudi Arabia, is a
fact. Bush has already appeased the terrorists. This is the one thing he
did to protect America from terrorism.


Funny that the administration talking "appeasement" is the administration
that did what bin Laden wanted...


Along with turning Iraq into a terrorist training ground.

Mission Accomplished!
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
.
User: "osprey"

Title: Re: ACLU Questions State Trooper Over Illegal Arrest 04 Sep 2006 09:06:36 AM
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 03:20:59 +0000, David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <7u6dnZ48WatDB2bZnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@megapath.net>, Mark K.
Bilbo <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:29:59 +0000, Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:38:46 +0000, Mark K. Bilbo hat geschreibt:

You do have to wonder how much of the money used to attack us came from
those joint deals between the Bush and bin Laden families...


One thing you don't have to wonder about is that the one demand Osama bin
Landen made on 9/11, that the US pull it's bases out of Saudi Arabia, is a
fact. Bush has already appeased the terrorists. This is the one thing he
did to protect America from terrorism.


Funny that the administration talking "appeasement" is the administration
that did what bin Laden wanted...


Along with turning Iraq into a terrorist training ground.


Mission Accomplished!

Where in the hell do you guys get your sources, information, and
research from?
Are you even sure you know what in the hell you are talking about, or
do you guys just make up this ***** as you go along?
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: ACLU Questions State Trooper Over Illegal Arrest 04 Sep 2006 10:29:55 AM
In article <1157378796.509000.285210@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 03:20:59 +0000, David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <7u6dnZ48WatDB2bZnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@megapath.net>, Mark K.
Bilbo <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:29:59 +0000, Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:38:46 +0000, Mark K. Bilbo hat geschreibt:

You do have to wonder how much of the money used to attack us came
from
those joint deals between the Bush and bin Laden families...


One thing you don't have to wonder about is that the one demand Osama
bin
Landen made on 9/11, that the US pull it's bases out of Saudi Arabia,
is a
fact. Bush has already appeased the terrorists. This is the one
thing he
did to protect America from terrorism.


Funny that the administration talking "appeasement" is the administration
that did what bin Laden wanted...


Along with turning Iraq into a terrorist training ground.


Mission Accomplished!


Where in the hell do you guys get your sources, information, and
research from?
Are you even sure you know what in the hell you are talking about, or
do you guys just make up this ***** as you go along?

Not everyone works like you.
It comes from the National Intelligence Council, the CIA director's
think tank. Bush has turned a country that was no threat to the United
States into a terrorist training ground hell bent on killing Americans.
<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7460-2005Jan13.html>
.
User: "osprey"

Title: Re: ACLU Questions State Trooper Over Illegal Arrest 04 Sep 2006 04:42:10 PM
David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1157378796.509000.285210@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 03:20:59 +0000, David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <7u6dnZ48WatDB2bZnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@megapath.net>, Mark K.
Bilbo <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:29:59 +0000, Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:38:46 +0000, Mark K. Bilbo hat geschreibt:

You do have to wonder how much of the money used to attack us came
from
those joint deals between the Bush and bin Laden families...


One thing you don't have to wonder about is that the one demand Osama
bin
Landen made on 9/11, that the US pull it's bases out of Saudi Arabia,
is a
fact. Bush has already appeased the terrorists. This is the one
thing he
did to protect America from terrorism.


Funny that the administration talking "appeasement" is the administration
that did what bin Laden wanted...


Along with turning Iraq into a terrorist training ground.


Mission Accomplished!


Where in the hell do you guys get your sources, information, and
research from?
Are you even sure you know what in the hell you are talking about, or
do you guys just make up this ***** as you go along?


Not everyone works like you.

It comes from the National Intelligence Council, the CIA director's
think tank. Bush has turned a country that was no threat to the United
States into a terrorist training ground hell bent on killing Americans.

<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7460-2005Jan13.html>

Now tell us why someone who once was a five year police officer who got
suspended for playing around with 13 year old children, should be
trusted???
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E05E4DB143AF937A15752C0A961958260
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: ACLU Questions State Trooper Over Illegal Arrest 04 Sep 2006 05:38:46 PM
In article <1157406130.834387.70070@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1157378796.509000.285210@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 03:20:59 +0000, David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <7u6dnZ48WatDB2bZnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@megapath.net>, Mark K.
Bilbo <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:29:59 +0000, Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:38:46 +0000, Mark K. Bilbo hat geschreibt:

You do have to wonder how much of the money used to attack us came
from
those joint deals between the Bush and bin Laden families...


One thing you don't have to wonder about is that the one demand
Osama
bin
Landen made on 9/11, that the US pull it's bases out of Saudi
Arabia,
is a
fact. Bush has already appeased the terrorists. This is the one
thing he
did to protect America from terrorism.


Funny that the administration talking "appeasement" is the
administration
that did what bin Laden wanted...


Along with turning Iraq into a terrorist training ground.


Mission Accomplished!


Where in the hell do you guys get your sources, information, and
research from?
Are you even sure you know what in the hell you are talking about, or
do you guys just make up this ***** as you go along?


Not everyone works like you.

It comes from the National Intelligence Council, the CIA director's
think tank. Bush has turned a country that was no threat to the United
States into a terrorist training ground hell bent on killing Americans.

<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7460-2005Jan13.html>


Now tell us why someone who once was a five year police officer who got
suspended for playing around with 13 year old children, should be
trusted???

Better yet, explain to us how someone as childish as you could get a
job as a guard.
.
User: "Sanders Kaufman"

Title: Re: ACLU Questions State Trooper Over Illegal Arrest 04 Sep 2006 09:28:53 PM
David W. Barnes wrote:

Better yet, explain to us how someone as childish as you could get a
job as a guard.

Apparently, you're not familiar with the private security industry.
Maturity, like intellect and initiative, is a disqualifier.
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: ACLU Questions State Trooper Over Illegal Arrest 04 Sep 2006 09:47:27 PM
In article <Fh5Lg.1260$MF1.877@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, Sanders
Kaufman <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

Better yet, explain to us how someone as childish as you could get a
job as a guard.


Apparently, you're not familiar with the private security industry.
Maturity, like intellect and initiative, is a disqualifier.

He claims to be in the public security industry. (A Delaware
correctional officer.)
.
User: "Sanders Kaufman"

Title: Re: ACLU Questions State Trooper Over Illegal Arrest 04 Sep 2006 11:41:43 PM
David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <Fh5Lg.1260$MF1.877@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, Sanders
Kaufman <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote:

Apparently, you're not familiar with the private security industry.
Maturity, like intellect and initiative, is a disqualifier.


He claims to be in the public security industry. (A Delaware
correctional officer.)

Ahh - yes.
The ONE security position lower than private security guard.
They actually sign-up to go to prison... and wait on waiting lists to
get there. Some actually train, and pay bribes to get there.
.... all to get INTO prison.
.



User: "osprey"

Title: Re: ACLU Questions State Trooper Over Illegal Arrest 04 Sep 2006 06:13:28 PM
David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1157406130.834387.70070@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1157378796.509000.285210@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 03:20:59 +0000, David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <7u6dnZ48WatDB2bZnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@megapath.net>, Mark K.
Bilbo <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:29:59 +0000, Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:38:46 +0000, Mark K. Bilbo hat geschreibt:

You do have to wonder how much of the money used to attack us came
from
those joint deals between the Bush and bin Laden families...


One thing you don't have to wonder about is that the one demand
Osama
bin
Landen made on 9/11, that the US pull it's bases out of Saudi
Arabia,
is a
fact. Bush has already appeased the terrorists. This is the one
thing he
did to protect America from terrorism.


Funny that the administration talking "appeasement" is the
administration
that did what bin Laden wanted...


Along with turning Iraq into a terrorist training ground.


Mission Accomplished!


Where in the hell do you guys get your sources, information, and
research from?
Are you even sure you know what in the hell you are talking about, or
do you guys just make up this ***** as you go along?


Not everyone works like you.

It comes from the National Intelligence Council, the CIA director's
think tank. Bush has turned a country that was no threat to the United
States into a terrorist training ground hell bent on killing Americans.

<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7460-2005Jan13.html>


Now tell us why someone who once was a five year police officer who got
suspended for playing around with 13 year old children, should be
trusted???


Better yet, explain to us how someone as childish as you could get a
job as a guard.

Better yet, explain to us how someone who was once in a position of
trust, could get excited by 13 year old girls? What is your problem
pervert???
So did you serve time for it or are you on probation?
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: ACLU Questions State Trooper Over Illegal Arrest 04 Sep 2006 06:22:42 PM
In article <1157411608.766623.35910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1157406130.834387.70070@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1157378796.509000.285210@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 03:20:59 +0000, David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <7u6dnZ48WatDB2bZnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@megapath.net>, Mark
K.
Bilbo <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:29:59 +0000, Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:38:46 +0000, Mark K. Bilbo hat

geschreibt:


You do have to wonder how much of the money used to attack us

came

from
those joint deals between the Bush and bin Laden families...


One thing you don't have to wonder about is that the one demand
Osama
bin
Landen made on 9/11, that the US pull it's bases out of Saudi
Arabia,
is a
fact. Bush has already appeased the terrorists. This is the

one

thing he
did to protect America from terrorism.


Funny that the administration talking "appeasement" is the
administration
that did what bin Laden wanted...


Along with turning Iraq into a terrorist training ground.


Mission Accomplished!


Where in the hell do you guys get your sources, information, and
research from?
Are you even sure you know what in the hell you are talking about, or
do you guys just make up this ***** as you go along?


Not everyone works like you.

It comes from the National Intelligence Council, the CIA director's
think tank. Bush has turned a country that was no threat to the United
States into a terrorist training ground hell bent on killing Americans.

<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7460-2005Jan13.html>


Now tell us why someone who once was a five year police officer who got
suspended for playing around with 13 year old children, should be
trusted???


Better yet, explain to us how someone as childish as you could get a
job as a guard.


Better yet, explain to us how someone who was once in a position of
trust, could get excited by 13 year old girls? What is your problem
pervert???

So did you serve time for it or are you on probation?

What is my name?
.
User: "osprey"

Title: Re: ACLU Questions State Trooper Over Illegal Arrest 04 Sep 2006 06:44:24 PM
David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1157411608.766623.35910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1157406130.834387.70070@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1157378796.509000.285210@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 03:20:59 +0000, David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <7u6dnZ48WatDB2bZnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@megapath.net>, Mark
K.
Bilbo <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:29:59 +0000, Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:38:46 +0000, Mark K. Bilbo hat

geschreibt:


You do have to wonder how much of the money used to attack us

came

from
those joint deals between the Bush and bin Laden families...


One thing you don't have to wonder about is that the one demand
Osama
bin
Landen made on 9/11, that the US pull it's bases out of Saudi
Arabia,
is a
fact. Bush has already appeased the terrorists. This is the

one

thing he
did to protect America from terrorism.


Funny that the administration talking "appeasement" is the
administration
that did what bin Laden wanted...


Along with turning Iraq into a terrorist training ground.


Mission Accomplished!


Where in the hell do you guys get your sources, information, and
research from?
Are you even sure you know what in the hell you are talking about, or
do you guys just make up this ***** as you go along?


Not everyone works like you.

It comes from the National Intelligence Council, the CIA director's
think tank. Bush has turned a country that was no threat to the United
States into a terrorist training ground hell bent on killing Americans.

<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7460-2005Jan13.html>


Now tell us why someone who once was a five year police officer who got
suspended for playing around with 13 year old children, should be
trusted???


Better yet, explain to us how someone as childish as you could get a
job as a guard.


Better yet, explain to us how someone who was once in a position of
trust, could get excited by 13 year old girls? What is your problem
pervert???

So did you serve time for it or are you on probation?


What is my name?

Are you lying about who you are?
What's my name, and how do you know?
Hey fat boy, come sue me like you said you were.
Bwaaak...Bwaaak...come on chicken.
.
User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: ACLU Questions State Trooper Over Illegal Arrest 04 Sep 2006 10:14:45 PM
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1157411608.766623.35910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1157406130.834387.70070@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1157378796.509000.285210@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 03:20:59 +0000, David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <7u6dnZ48WatDB2bZnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@megapath.net>,
Mark K. Bilbo <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:29:59 +0000, Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:38:46 +0000, Mark K. Bilbo hat
geschreibt:

You do have to wonder how much of the money used to
attack us came from those joint deals between the Bush
and bin Laden families...

One thing you don't have to wonder about is that the one
demand Osama bin Landen made on 9/11, that the US pull
it's bases out of Saudi Arabia, is a fact. Bush has
already appeased the terrorists. This is the one thing he
did to protect America from terrorism.

Funny that the administration talking "appeasement" is the
administration that did what bin Laden wanted...

Along with turning Iraq into a terrorist training ground.

Mission Accomplished!

Where in the hell do you guys get your sources, information, and
research from? Are you even sure you know what in the hell you
are talking about, or do you guys just make up this ***** as you
go along?

Not everyone works like you.
It comes from the National Intelligence Council, the CIA director's
think tank. Bush has turned a country that was no threat to the
United States into a terrorist training ground hell bent on killing
Americans.
<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7460-2005Jan13.html>

Now tell us why someone who once was a five year police officer who
got suspended for playing around with 13 year old children, should be
trusted???

Better yet, explain to us how someone as childish as you could get a
job as a guard.

Better yet, explain to us how someone who was once in a position of
trust, could get excited by 13 year old girls? What is your problem
pervert???
So did you serve time for it or are you on probation?

What is my name?

Are you lying about who you are?
What's my name, and how do you know?
Hey fat boy, come sue me like you said you were.
Bwaaak...Bwaaak...come on chicken.

What's his real name, Bobby? You obviously didn't learn from the last time
you tried this failed tactic on me.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. Grand Rapids, 7:35
.

User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: ACLU Questions State Trooper Over Illegal Arrest 04 Sep 2006 07:17:50 PM
In article <1157413464.253291.96810@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1157411608.766623.35910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1157406130.834387.70070@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1157378796.509000.285210@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 03:20:59 +0000, David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <7u6dnZ48WatDB2bZnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@megapath.net>,

Mark

K.
Bilbo <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:29:59 +0000, Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:38:46 +0000, Mark K. Bilbo hat

geschreibt:


You do have to wonder how much of the money used to

attack us

came

from
those joint deals between the Bush and bin Laden

families...


One thing you don't have to wonder about is that the one

demand

Osama
bin
Landen made on 9/11, that the US pull it's bases out of

Saudi

Arabia,
is a
fact. Bush has already appeased the terrorists. This is

the

one

thing he
did to protect America from terrorism.


Funny that the administration talking "appeasement" is the
administration
that did what bin Laden wanted...


Along with turning Iraq into a terrorist training ground.


Mission Accomplished!


Where in the hell do you guys get your sources, information, and
research from?
Are you even sure you know what in the hell you are talking
about, or
do you guys just make up this ***** as you go along?


Not everyone works like you.

It comes from the National Intelligence Council, the CIA director's
think tank. Bush has turned a country that was no threat to the
United
States into a terrorist training ground hell bent on killing
Americans.

<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7460-2005Jan13.html>


Now tell us why someone who once was a five year police officer who
got
suspended for playing around with 13 year old children, should be
trusted???


Better yet, explain to us how someone as childish as you could get a
job as a guard.


Better yet, explain to us how someone who was once in a position of
trust, could get excited by 13 year old girls? What is your problem
pervert???

So did you serve time for it or are you on probation?


What is my name?


Are you lying about who you are?
What's my name, and how do you know?
Hey fat boy, come sue me like you said you were.
Bwaaak...Bwaaak...come on chicken.

This requires no comment.


.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: ACLU Questions State Trooper Over Illegal Arrest 04 Sep 2006 09:55:34 PM
On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 00:17:50 +0000, David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1157413464.253291.96810@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1157411608.766623.35910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1157406130.834387.70070@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1157378796.509000.285210@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 03:20:59 +0000, David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <7u6dnZ48WatDB2bZnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@megapath.net>,

Mark

K.
Bilbo <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:29:59 +0000, Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:38:46 +0000, Mark K. Bilbo hat

geschreibt:


You do have to wonder how much of the money used to

attack us

came

from
those joint deals between the Bush and bin Laden

families...


One thing you don't have to wonder about is that the one

demand

Osama
bin
Landen made on 9/11, that the US pull it's bases out of

Saudi

Arabia,
is a
fact. Bush has already appeased the terrorists. This is

the

one

thing he
did to protect America from terrorism.


Funny that the administration talking "appeasement" is the
administration
that did what bin Laden wanted...


Along with turning Iraq into a terrorist training ground.


Mission Accomplished!


Where in the hell do you guys get your sources, information, and
research from?
Are you even sure you know what in the hell you are talking
about, or
do you guys just make up this ***** as you go along?


Not everyone works like you.

It comes from the National Intelligence Council, the CIA director's
think tank. Bush has turned a country that was no threat to the
United
States into a terrorist training ground hell bent on killing
Americans.

<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7460-2005Jan13.html>


Now tell us why someone who once was a five year police officer who
got
suspended for playing around with 13 year old children, should be
trusted???


Better yet, explain to us how someone as childish as you could get a
job as a guard.


Better yet, explain to us how someone who was once in a position of
trust, could get excited by 13 year old girls? What is your problem
pervert???

So did you serve time for it or are you on probation?


What is my name?


Are you lying about who you are?
What's my name, and how do you know?
Hey fat boy, come sue me like you said you were.
Bwaaak...Bwaaak...come on chicken.


This requires no comment.

Really...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
.






User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: ACLU Questions State Trooper Over Illegal Arrest 04 Sep 2006 07:02:30 PM
On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 14:42:10 -0700, osprey wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1157378796.509000.285210@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 03:20:59 +0000, David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <7u6dnZ48WatDB2bZnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@megapath.net>, Mark K.
Bilbo <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:29:59 +0000, Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:38:46 +0000, Mark K. Bilbo hat geschreibt:

You do have to wonder how much of the money used to attack us came
from
those joint deals between the Bush and bin Laden families...


One thing you don't have to wonder about is that the one demand Osama
bin
Landen made on 9/11, that the US pull it's bases out of Saudi Arabia,
is a
fact. Bush has already appeased the terrorists. This is the one
thing he
did to protect America from terrorism.


Funny that the administration talking "appeasement" is the administration
that did what bin Laden wanted...


Along with turning Iraq into a terrorist training ground.


Mission Accomplished!


Where in the hell do you guys get your sources, information, and
research from?
Are you even sure you know what in the hell you are talking about, or
do you guys just make up this ***** as you go along?


Not everyone works like you.

It comes from the National Intelligence Council, the CIA director's
think tank. Bush has turned a country that was no threat to the United
States into a terrorist training ground hell bent on killing Americans.

<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7460-2005Jan13.html>


Now tell us why someone who once was a five year police officer who got
suspended for playing around with 13 year old children, should be
trusted???

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E05E4DB143AF937A15752C0A961958260

Um... what?
How crazy are you anyway? You know how common the name "David Barnes" is?
A Google search turns up 256,000 hits including an artist, a Senior VP at
UPS, a professor in Alaska, a professor in Washington state, a professor
in Australia, a professor in Pennsylvania (boy, he sure does a *lot* of
teaching), a senior manager at Cisco, a professor in California (how does
he get from one class to the other, jet pack?), a CFO until just recently
at Radio Shack...
In a nation of almost 300 million people, you know how many have the same
or similar names?
Hell, *my family name is extremely rare but there's at least one other
"Mark Bilbo" out there...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
.
User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: ACLU Questions State Trooper Over Illegal Arrest 04 Sep 2006 10:23:35 PM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> writes:

On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 14:42:10 -0700, osprey wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1157378796.509000.285210@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 03:20:59 +0000, David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <7u6dnZ48WatDB2bZnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@megapath.net>, Mark K.
Bilbo <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:29:59 +0000, Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:38:46 +0000, Mark K. Bilbo hat geschreibt:

You do have to wonder how much of the money used to attack us
came from those joint deals between the Bush and bin Laden
families...

One thing you don't have to wonder about is that the one demand
Osama bin Landen made on 9/11, that the US pull it's bases out of
Saudi Arabia, is a fact. Bush has already appeased the
terrorists. This is the one thing he did to protect America from
terrorism.

Funny that the administration talking "appeasement" is the
administration that did what bin Laden wanted...

Along with turning Iraq into a terrorist training ground.

Mission Accomplished!

Where in the hell do you guys get your sources, information, and
research from?
Are you even sure you know what in the hell you are talking about, or
do you guys just make up this ***** as you go along?

Not everyone works like you.
It comes from the National Intelligence Council, the CIA director's
think tank. Bush has turned a country that was no threat to the United
States into a terrorist training ground hell bent on killing Americans.
<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7460-2005Jan13.html>

Now tell us why someone who once was a five year police officer who got
suspended for playing around with 13 year old children, should be
trusted???
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E05E4DB143AF937A15752C0A961958260

Um... what?
How crazy are you anyway? You know how common the name "David Barnes" is?
A Google search turns up 256,000 hits including an artist, a Senior VP at
UPS, a professor in Alaska, a professor in Washington state, a professor
in Australia, a professor in Pennsylvania (boy, he sure does a *lot* of
teaching), a senior manager at Cisco, a professor in California (how does
he get from one class to the other, jet pack?), a CFO until just recently
at Radio Shack...
In a nation of almost 300 million people, you know how many have the same
or similar names?
Hell, *my family name is extremely rare but there's at least one other
"Mark Bilbo" out there...

This is one of Heishman's tactics, which he's used against the person he
believes is David Barnes - and myself. There are a number of my namesakes out
there; one is a medical researcher in the UK, and another is a teacher in the
public school system of a town in the Florida panhandle...but Bobby zeroed in
on one who was convicted in a Federal court in Illinois because that one had a
middle name that started with the same letter as my middle name, so he could
pat himself on the back and claim he had "proved" that Patrick L. Humphrey is
a convict.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. Grand Rapids, 7:35
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User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: ACLU Questions State Trooper Over Illegal Arrest 04 Sep 2006 07:17:53 PM
In article <NPudnabQpssLI2HZnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@megapath.net>, Mark K.
Bilbo <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 14:42:10 -0700, osprey wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1157378796.509000.285210@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 03:20:59 +0000, David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <7u6dnZ48WatDB2bZnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@megapath.net>, Mark K.
Bilbo <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:29:59 +0000, Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:38:46 +0000, Mark K. Bilbo hat geschreibt:

You do have to wonder how much of the money used to attack us

came

from
those joint deals between the Bush and bin Laden families...


One thing you don't have to wonder about is that the one demand
Osama
bin
Landen made on 9/11, that the US pull it's bases out of Saudi
Arabia,
is a
fact. Bush has already appeased the terrorists. This is the one
thing he
did to protect America from terrorism.


Funny that the administration talking "appeasement" is the
administration
that did what bin Laden wanted...


Along with turning Iraq into a terrorist training ground.


Mission Accomplished!


Where in the hell do you guys get your sources, information, and
research from?
Are you even sure you know what in the hell you are talking about, or
do you guys just make up this ***** as you go along?


Not everyone works like you.

It comes from the National Intelligence Council, the CIA director's
think tank. Bush has turned a country that was no threat to the United
States into a terrorist training ground hell bent on killing Americans.

<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7460-2005Jan13.html>


Now tell us why someone who once was a five year police officer who got
suspended for playing around with 13 year old children, should be
trusted???


http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E05E4DB143AF937A15752C0A9619
58260


Um... what?

How crazy are you anyway? You know how common the name "David Barnes" is?

(And it's not even mine... :-) )

A Google search turns up 256,000 hits including an artist, a Senior VP at
UPS, a professor in Alaska, a professor in Washington state, a professor
in Australia, a professor in Pennsylvania (boy, he sure does a *lot* of
teaching), a senior manager at Cisco, a professor in California (how does
he get from one class to the other, jet pack?), a CFO until just recently
at Radio Shack...

In a nation of almost 300 million people, you know how many have the same
or similar names?

Hell, *my family name is extremely rare but there's at least one other
"Mark Bilbo" out there...

Is this you?
<http://www.answers.com/topic/mark-k-bilbo>
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: ACLU Questions State Trooper Over Illegal Arrest 04 Sep 2006 10:08:30 PM
On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 00:17:53 +0000, David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <NPudnabQpssLI2HZnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@megapath.net>, Mark K.
Bilbo <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 14:42:10 -0700, osprey wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <1157378796.509000.285210@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 03:20:59 +0000, David W. Barnes wrote:

In article <7u6dnZ48WatDB2bZnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@megapath.net>, Mark K.
Bilbo <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:29:59 +0000, Emmanual Kann wrote:

An Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:38:46 +0000, Mark K. Bilbo hat geschreibt:

You do have to wonder how much of the money used to attack us

came

from
those joint deals between the Bush and bin Laden families...


One thing you don't have to wonder about is that the one demand
Osama
bin
Landen made on 9/11, that the US pull it's bases out of Saudi
Arabia,
is a
fact. Bush has already appeased the terrorists. This is the one
thing he
did to protect America from terrorism.


Funny that the administration talking "appeasement" is the
administration
that did what bin Laden wanted...


Along with turning Iraq into a terrorist training ground.


Mission Accomplished!


Where in the hell do you guys get your sources, information, and
research from?
Are you even sure you know what in the hell you are talking about, or
do you guys just make up this ***** as you go along?


Not everyone works like you.