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Religions > Atheism |
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"J Young" |
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28 Mar 2005 11:47:58 AM |
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ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
Why would any man need another man to provide him with health care
benefits? The advantage of gay partnerships is that there are no
children at home that need attending. Let each man provide his own
health care, just like single straight people do. This notion that one
guy stays home and plays "Donna Reed" while the other one goes to work
should not become a burden on the American health care system. The
people of Michigan (and many other states) have spoken; No gay
marriage. Stop seeking "special" dispensations just because your
different.
http://www.freep.com/news/mich/gay22e_20050322.htm
Despite marriage ban, couples want health care
The American Civil Liberties Union filed a lawsuit Monday asking the
courts to protect same-sex couples' health benefits in light of a state
constitutional ban on gay marriage.
In the suit, filed in Ingham County Circuit Court, the ACLU asked the
court to stipulate that the ban on gay marriage does not extend to
health care benefits for same-sex partners. The amendment, they said,
is ambiguous.
The ACLU filed the suit less than a week after state Attorney General
Mike Cox issued his legal interpretation about what effect the
amendment should have on health benefits. He concluded that the
amendment bans government agencies from extending benefits to same-sex
couples in any future contract negotiations.
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| User: "Dennis Kemmerer" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for special benefits for gays |
21 Apr 2005 07:16:31 PM |
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"James" <shiv02@sasktel.net> wrote in message
news:138bee8.0504211243.2743ff77@posting.google.com...
"Sir Marksman" <kurt_lochner@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<Ziz9e.4085$Bc7.850@twister.nyroc.rr.com>...
"Jenn" <jennconducts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
<disgusting fabrication deleted>
So much for "protecting marriage."
You are not trying to protect marriage, you are trying to corrupt it.
Marriage predated your sky-fairy, *****, which makes your
definition of it as worthless as your monkey babble. You small-minded
little cunts crawl out of the woodwork like cockroaches when
tx.politics gets a crosspost.
You know, I love it when people use the incest argument against gay
marriage. Only a complete dipshit with their head so far up their *****
that they could taste yesterday's egg salad
Thanks for that _perfect_ description of Marky-poo.
[snip]
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| User: "Jenn" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for special benefits for gays |
20 Apr 2005 04:05:31 PM |
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Marksman: <<<You are not trying to protect marriage, you are trying to
corrupt it.
I submit that Deb and Tricia upgrade the status of marriage, and Mark
and Daisy corrupt it.
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| User: "Sir Marksman" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for special benefits for gays |
20 Apr 2005 04:09:05 PM |
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"Jenn" <jennconducts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1114031131.420810.87560@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Marksman: <<<You are not trying to protect marriage, you are trying to
corrupt it.
I submit that Deb and Tricia upgrade the status of marriage, and Mark
and Daisy corrupt it.
They are both figments of imagination. A marriage can only be between a man
and a woman, so Deb and Tricia would degrade it.
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| User: "Jenn" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for special benefits for gays |
20 Apr 2005 04:13:14 PM |
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Marksman: <<<They are both figments of imagination. A marriage can
only be between a man
and a woman, so Deb and Tricia would degrade it.
Both examples are certainly possible. And you know that I am right:
Mark and Daisy ARE allowed to marry, yet no one is campaigning to NOT
allow them to in order to "protct marriage." Instead, they fight
against Deb and Tricia (based on my partner and me.)
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| User: "Sir Marksman" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for special benefits for gays |
20 Apr 2005 04:16:45 PM |
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"Jenn" <jennconducts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1114031594.248068.293790@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Marksman: <<<They are both figments of imagination. A marriage can
only be between a man
and a woman, so Deb and Tricia would degrade it.
Both examples are certainly possible.
It is also possible that Bin Laden will set off a nuke in your general area.
So what?
And you know that I am right:
NO, I do not.
Mark and Daisy ARE allowed to marry, yet no one is campaigning to NOT
allow them to in order to "protct marriage." Instead, they fight
against Deb and Tricia (based on my partner and me.)
You have the same "right" to marry as any other US citizen. You are not
being discriminated against.
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| User: "Jenn" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for special benefits for gays |
20 Apr 2005 04:22:29 PM |
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Marksman: <<<You have the same "right" to marry as any other US
citizen. You are not
being discriminated against.
If you were only allowed to marry those you couldn't love, would you
consider that just?
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| User: "Sir Marksman" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for special benefits for gays |
20 Apr 2005 04:24:42 PM |
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"Jenn" <jennconducts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1114032149.064154.205440@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Marksman: <<<You have the same "right" to marry as any other US
citizen. You are not
being discriminated against.
If you were only allowed to marry those you couldn't love, would you
consider that just?
I have the same right to marry as any other US citizen, just as you do.
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| User: "Jenn" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for special benefits for gays |
20 Apr 2005 04:29:14 PM |
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Jenn: <<> If you were only allowed to marry those you couldn't love,
would you
consider that just?
Marksman: <<<I have the same right to marry as any other US citizen,
just as you do.
You didn't answer the question. After the laws are changed, you and I
will STILL have the same rights to marry.
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| User: "Sir Marksman" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for special benefits for gays |
20 Apr 2005 04:33:09 PM |
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"Jenn" <jennconducts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
You didn't answer the question. After the laws are changed, you and I
will STILL have the same rights to marry.
I answered your question. Sorry if you don't like my answer.
A marriage can only be between a man and a woman.
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| User: "Jenn" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for special benefits for gays |
20 Apr 2005 04:39:25 PM |
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Marksman: <<<I answered your question. Sorry if you don't like my
answer.
No, you didn't. If you were only allowed to marry those you couldn't
love, would you consider that just?
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| User: "Sir Marksman" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for special benefits for gays |
20 Apr 2005 04:41:10 PM |
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"Jenn" <jennconducts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
No, you didn't. If you were only allowed to marry those you couldn't
love, would you consider that just?
You have the same right to marry as any other US citizen.
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| User: "Jenn" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for special benefits for gays |
20 Apr 2005 04:46:15 PM |
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Jenn: <<> No, you didn't. If you were only allowed to marry those
you couldn't
love, would you consider that just?
Marksman: <<You have the same right to marry as any other US citizen.
You still didn't answer the question: If you were only allowed to
marry those who you couldn't love, would you consider that just?
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| User: "Sir Marksman" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for special benefits for gays |
20 Apr 2005 04:48:58 PM |
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"Jenn" <jennconducts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
You still didn't answer the question: If you were only allowed to
marry those who you couldn't love, would you consider that just?
I answered your question. Sorry if you don't like my answer.
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for special benefits for gays |
20 Apr 2005 05:00:39 PM |
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Jenn wrote:
Jenn: <<> No, you didn't. If you were only allowed to marry those
you couldn't
love, would you consider that just?
Marksman: <<You have the same right to marry as any other US citizen.
You still didn't answer the question: If you were only allowed to
marry those who you couldn't love, would you consider that just?
This is the normal MO for Sir ***** Jenn.
You've backed him into a corner, so he won't give you an direct answer.
And he will state over and over, ad infinitum, that he has answered
you. When in fact, he's play dodge ball with the question.
This is the reason most of of have *PLONKED* his sorry *****.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for special benefits for gays |
20 Apr 2005 05:21:34 PM |
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Jenn wrote:
Jenn: <<> No, you didn't. If you were only allowed to marry those
you couldn't
love, would you consider that just?
Marksman: <<You have the same right to marry as any other US
citizen.
You still didn't answer the question: If you were only allowed to
marry those who you couldn't love, would you consider that just?
Do really ugly people have a right to marry even though nobody wants
them?
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| User: "Sir Marksman" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for special benefits for gays |
20 Apr 2005 05:37:08 PM |
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<caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1114035694.305613.259120@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Jenn wrote:
Jenn: <<> No, you didn't. If you were only allowed to marry those
you couldn't
love, would you consider that just?
Marksman: <<You have the same right to marry as any other US
citizen.
You still didn't answer the question: If you were only allowed to
marry those who you couldn't love, would you consider that just?
Do really ugly people have a right to marry even though nobody wants
them?
She won't get it.
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| User: "Maverick" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for special benefits for gays |
20 Apr 2005 05:25:15 PM |
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<caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1114035694.305613.259120@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Jenn wrote:
Jenn: <<> No, you didn't. If you were only allowed to marry those
you couldn't
love, would you consider that just?
Marksman: <<You have the same right to marry as any other US
citizen.
You still didn't answer the question: If you were only allowed to
marry those who you couldn't love, would you consider that just?
Do really ugly people have a right to marry even though nobody wants
them?
We must, or I'd still be single.
--
"In questions of power, then, let no more
be said of confidence in man but bind him
down with the chains of the Constitution."
- Thomas Jefferson
Maverick
http://www.independent.org/
http://www.constitutionparty.com/
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| User: "Sir Marksman" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for special benefits for gays |
20 Apr 2005 05:37:28 PM |
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"Maverick" <justgopub...@nomail.com> wrote in message
news:fFA9e.4976754$Zm5.773279@news.easynews.com...
<caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1114035694.305613.259120@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Jenn wrote:
Jenn: <<> No, you didn't. If you were only allowed to marry those
you couldn't
love, would you consider that just?
Marksman: <<You have the same right to marry as any other US
citizen.
You still didn't answer the question: If you were only allowed to
marry those who you couldn't love, would you consider that just?
Do really ugly people have a right to marry even though nobody wants
them?
We must, or I'd still be single.
ROFL!
--
"In questions of power, then, let no more
be said of confidence in man but bind him
down with the chains of the Constitution."
- Thomas Jefferson
Maverick
http://www.independent.org/
http://www.constitutionparty.com/
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| User: "Al Smith" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for special benefits for gays |
20 Apr 2005 05:59:21 PM |
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Maverick wrote:
<caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1114035694.305613.259120@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Jenn wrote:
Jenn: <<> No, you didn't. If you were only allowed to marry
those
you couldn't
love, would you consider that just?
Marksman: <<You have the same right to marry as any other US
citizen.
You still didn't answer the question: If you were only allowed to
marry those who you couldn't love, would you consider that just?
Do really ugly people have a right to marry even though nobody
wants
them?
We must, or I'd still be single.
Aren't we all just a little bit lucky that our wives see our inner
beauty?
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for special benefits for gays |
20 Apr 2005 06:26:04 PM |
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In article <1114037961.072353.56500@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "Al Smith" <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> writes:
Maverick wrote:
<caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1114035694.305613.259120@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Jenn wrote:
Jenn: <<> No, you didn't. If you were only allowed to marry
those
you couldn't
love, would you consider that just?
Marksman: <<You have the same right to marry as any other US
citizen.
You still didn't answer the question: If you were only allowed to
marry those who you couldn't love, would you consider that just?
Do really ugly people have a right to marry even though nobody
wants
them?
We must, or I'd still be single.
Aren't we all just a little bit lucky that our wives see our inner
beauty?
Or once saw outer beauty, but are now stuck.
-- cary
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| User: "Al Smith" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for special benefits for gays |
20 Apr 2005 07:02:15 PM |
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Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <1114037961.072353.56500@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "Al
Smith" <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> writes:
Maverick wrote:
<caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1114035694.305613.259120@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Jenn wrote:
Jenn: <<> No, you didn't. If you were only allowed to marry
those
you couldn't
love, would you consider that just?
Marksman: <<You have the same right to marry as any other US
citizen.
You still didn't answer the question: If you were only
allowed to
marry those who you couldn't love, would you consider that
just?
Do really ugly people have a right to marry even though nobody
wants
them?
We must, or I'd still be single.
Aren't we all just a little bit lucky that our wives see our inner
beauty?
Or once saw outer beauty, but are now stuck.
Why don't mothers tell their daughters to stay away from alcohol?
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| User: "Jenn" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for special benefits for gays |
21 Apr 2005 02:01:46 AM |
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Maverick: <<We must, or I'd still be single.
Ahhhhh...... I'm sure that you're too modest.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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20 Apr 2005 05:26:01 PM |
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wrote:
Jenn wrote:
Jenn: <<> No, you didn't. If you were only allowed to marry those
you couldn't
love, would you consider that just?
Marksman: <<You have the same right to marry as any other US
citizen.
You still didn't answer the question: If you were only allowed to
marry those who you couldn't love, would you consider that just?
Do really ugly people have a right to marry even though nobody wants
them?
Why, are you having a problem?
--
"Only Buddhism is compatible with science. It covers the smallest
particles to the largest creations of the cosmos. It is the only
religion capable of scientific truth."
Albert Einstein
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| User: "Al Smith" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for special benefits for gays |
20 Apr 2005 05:57:40 PM |
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Andrealphus wrote:
caddyshack_al@my-deja.com wrote:
Jenn wrote:
Jenn: <<> No, you didn't. If you were only allowed to marry
those
you couldn't
love, would you consider that just?
Marksman: <<You have the same right to marry as any other US
citizen.
You still didn't answer the question: If you were only allowed to
marry those who you couldn't love, would you consider that just?
Do really ugly people have a right to marry even though nobody
wants
them?
Why, are you having a problem?
I'm not gay.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for special benefits for gays |
20 Apr 2005 07:50:10 PM |
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Al Smith <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
Andrealphus wrote:
caddyshack_al@my-deja.com wrote:
Jenn wrote:
Jenn: <<> No, you didn't. If you were only allowed to marry those
you couldn't
love, would you consider that just?
Marksman: <<You have the same right to marry as any other US
citizen.
You still didn't answer the question: If you were only allowed to
marry those who you couldn't love, would you consider that just?
Do really ugly people have a right to marry even though nobody wants
them?
Why, are you having a problem?
I'm not gay.
Why would you be having a problem with not being gay?
--
"Only Buddhism is compatible with science. It covers the smallest
particles to the largest creations of the cosmos. It is the only
religion capable of scientific truth."
Albert Einstein
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for special benefits for gays |
20 Apr 2005 10:36:18 PM |
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Andrealphus wrote:
Al Smith <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com> wrote:
Andrealphus wrote:
caddyshack_al@my-deja.com wrote:
Jenn wrote:
Jenn: <<> No, you didn't. If you were only allowed to marry
those
you couldn't
love, would you consider that just?
Marksman: <<You have the same right to marry as any other US
citizen.
You still didn't answer the question: If you were only allowed
to
marry those who you couldn't love, would you consider that just?
Do really ugly people have a right to marry even though nobody
wants
them?
Why, are you having a problem?
I'm not gay.
Why would you be having a problem with not being gay?
I'm not having a problem with not being gay.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for special benefits for gays |
21 Apr 2005 05:44:58 AM |
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wrote:
Andrealphus wrote:
Al Smith < > wrote:
Andrealphus wrote:
wrote:
Jenn wrote:
Jenn: <<> No, you didn't. If you were only allowed to marry
those you couldn't
love, would you consider that just?
Marksman: <<You have the same right to marry as any other US
citizen.
You still didn't answer the question: If you were only allowed
to marry those who you couldn't love, would you consider that
just?
Do really ugly people have a right to marry even though nobody
wants them?
Why, are you having a problem?
I'm not gay.
Why would you be having a problem with not being gay?
I'm not having a problem with not being gay.
Then... Why did you say, "I'm not gay." in response to my question, "Why,
are you having a problem?"
You seem confused.
--
"Only Buddhism is compatible with science. It covers the smallest
particles to the largest creations of the cosmos. It is the only
religion capable of scientific truth."
Albert Einstein
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| User: "Jenn" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for special benefits for gays |
21 Apr 2005 01:59:49 AM |
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caddy: <<Do really ugly people have a right to marry even though
nobody wants
them?
Yes, they do. Like all heterosexual people, they can marry those they
love who will have them.
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| User: "Jenn" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for special benefits for gays |
21 Apr 2005 10:05:01 AM |
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<<<Do really ugly people have a right to marry even though
nobody wants
them
Strawman, <eg>
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for special benefits for gays |
21 Apr 2005 02:28:14 AM |
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On 20 Apr 2005 23:59:49 -0700, "Jenn" <jennconducts@hotmail.com>
wrote:
caddy: <<Do really ugly people have a right to marry even though
nobody wants
them?
Yes, they do. Like all heterosexual people, they can marry those they
love who will have them.
It's a behavioral thing. Your choice of behavior (homosexual) prevents
you from enjoying all the benefits of being an American. It's the same
dilemma that many religious people face when their religious behavior
prevents them for consuming alcohol, eating a nice BLT sandwich or
driving cars. See how that works, sweety...its a behavioral thing.
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