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"J Young" |
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28 Mar 2005 11:47:58 AM |
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ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
Why would any man need another man to provide him with health care
benefits? The advantage of gay partnerships is that there are no
children at home that need attending. Let each man provide his own
health care, just like single straight people do. This notion that one
guy stays home and plays "Donna Reed" while the other one goes to work
should not become a burden on the American health care system. The
people of Michigan (and many other states) have spoken; No gay
marriage. Stop seeking "special" dispensations just because your
different.
http://www.freep.com/news/mich/gay22e_20050322.htm
Despite marriage ban, couples want health care
The American Civil Liberties Union filed a lawsuit Monday asking the
courts to protect same-sex couples' health benefits in light of a state
constitutional ban on gay marriage.
In the suit, filed in Ingham County Circuit Court, the ACLU asked the
court to stipulate that the ban on gay marriage does not extend to
health care benefits for same-sex partners. The amendment, they said,
is ambiguous.
The ACLU filed the suit less than a week after state Attorney General
Mike Cox issued his legal interpretation about what effect the
amendment should have on health benefits. He concluded that the
amendment bans government agencies from extending benefits to same-sex
couples in any future contract negotiations.
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| User: "Natalie Clifford Barney" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
08 May 2005 09:34:44 PM |
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wrote:
On Sun, 08 May 2005 14:27:41 GMT, Natalie Clifford Barney
<SalonHostess@20RueJacob.fr> wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 07 May 2005 21:49:57 GMT, Natalie Clifford Barney
<SalonHostess@20RueJacob.fr> wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 07 May 2005 14:01:54 GMT, Natalie Clifford Barney
<SalonHostess@20RueJacob.fr> wrote:
Sanders Kaufman wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:bern71hbe0706oio0p57d0itjtpao3lmu2@4ax.com...
On Thu, 05 May 2005 21:57:37 -0700, wrote:
That's the attitude that Ossama liked so.
That's why we will kill Osama. Soon.
Osama?
Osama who?
I've heard the name before - did he play with MoTown?
Osama--the man who releases more videos than some rock stars, the man
the wars are allegedly about and who we have ceased to look for....
The man with the rifle in an old news boradcast thanking the US for
outfitting his men and helping them get the Russians out of Kabul.....
Please don't try to teach the pigs to sing...
I dont have to, that is a reactionary conservative passtime......
But we never got you past "Frere Jacques." What a stupid pig you are.
I can sing La Internationale as well
So pigs can sing...
No idea, not being a pig......
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"We're the ones who have to bury the gay teenagers who kill themselves because
their parents have been quoting Jim Dobson to them."
Reverend Mel White
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
09 May 2005 12:49:00 AM |
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On Mon, 09 May 2005 02:34:44 GMT, Natalie Clifford Barney
<SalonHostess@20RueJacob.fr> wrote:
wbt@privacy.net wrote:
On Sun, 08 May 2005 14:27:41 GMT, Natalie Clifford Barney
<SalonHostess@20RueJacob.fr> wrote:
wbt@privacy.net wrote:
On Sat, 07 May 2005 21:49:57 GMT, Natalie Clifford Barney
<SalonHostess@20RueJacob.fr> wrote:
wbt@privacy.net wrote:
On Sat, 07 May 2005 14:01:54 GMT, Natalie Clifford Barney
<SalonHostess@20RueJacob.fr> wrote:
Sanders Kaufman wrote:
<wbt@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:bern71hbe0706oio0p57d0itjtpao3lmu2@4ax.com...
On Thu, 05 May 2005 21:57:37 -0700, wrote:
That's the attitude that Ossama liked so.
That's why we will kill Osama. Soon.
Osama?
Osama who?
I've heard the name before - did he play with MoTown?
Osama--the man who releases more videos than some rock stars, the man
the wars are allegedly about and who we have ceased to look for....
The man with the rifle in an old news boradcast thanking the US for
outfitting his men and helping them get the Russians out of Kabul.....
Please don't try to teach the pigs to sing...
I dont have to, that is a reactionary conservative passtime......
But we never got you past "Frere Jacques." What a stupid pig you are.
I can sing La Internationale as well
So pigs can sing...
No idea, not being a pig......
Make up your mind. You said above that you are a pig that can sing two
songs.
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| User: "Fritz" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
06 May 2005 10:25:27 AM |
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wrote:
On Thu, 05 May 2005 16:40:12 GMT, Natalie Clifford Barney
<SalonHostess@20RueJacob.fr> wrote:
wrote:
On 4 May 2005 20:42:27 -0700, "Tim Crowley" <timmyturmoil@gmail.com>
wrote:
IAAH wrote:
On Thu, 05 May 2005 02:58:40 GMT, wrote:
On 4 May 2005 07:01:27 -0700, "Jenn" <jennconducts@hotmail.com>
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W: <<You want special
rights....>>>
Again, incorrect. True or False: When WE will be able to marry
those
of the same gender, YOU will be able to marry those of the same
gender.
Answer: TRUE. Thus, what we ask for is, by definition, not
"special."
There is no compelling need for people of the same gender to marry.
There is no compelling need for ANYONE to marry.
except of course those people who are compelled to marry. you may or
may not be, but you have no control or right over anyone elses
decision.
That's true but neither does any special interest group have control
over what the state recognizes as a lawful marriage.
We are winning this battle throught the western world. Just as the US
lagged behind on eliminating slavery, on civil rights, on ending lynching,
on interracial marriage, it may hold out but in the end will catch up with
Europe. This is no different than any other social issue that conservatives
held out on long after Europe went ahead...and like those issues, the
conservative position will become an embarrassment to how America is
percieved world wide, generating in the end social changes.
Am I the first to tell you that Americans DON'T GIVE A ***** "how
America is percieved(sp) world wide."
How does it feel to be behind, Dumass?
-- Fritz ...
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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06 May 2005 10:44:56 AM |
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On Fri, 06 May 2005 04:19:39 GMT, drained his beer,
leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the
following
Am I the first to tell you that Americans DON'T GIVE A ***** "how
America is percieved(sp) world wide."
You aren't an American.
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Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Fritz" |
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06 May 2005 10:23:33 AM |
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wrote:
On 4 May 2005 20:42:27 -0700, "Tim Crowley" <timmyturmoil@gmail.com>
wrote:
IAAH wrote:
On Thu, 05 May 2005 02:58:40 GMT, wrote:
On 4 May 2005 07:01:27 -0700, "Jenn" <jennconducts@hotmail.com>
wrote:
W: <<You want special
rights....>>>
Again, incorrect. True or False: When WE will be able to marry
those
of the same gender, YOU will be able to marry those of the same
gender.
Answer: TRUE. Thus, what we ask for is, by definition, not
"special."
There is no compelling need for people of the same gender to marry.
There is no compelling need for ANYONE to marry.
except of course those people who are compelled to marry. you may or
may not be, but you have no control or right over anyone elses
decision.
That's true but neither does any special interest group have control
over what the state recognizes as a lawful marriage.
Dumass, that's good, I like it.
Why didn't I think of it?
-- Fritz ...
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
05 May 2005 10:38:15 AM |
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On Wed, 04 May 2005 23:23:17 -0400, IAAH <iaah@dodgeit.com> wrote:
On Thu, 05 May 2005 02:58:40 GMT, wrote:
On 4 May 2005 07:01:27 -0700, "Jenn" <jennconducts@hotmail.com> wrote:
W: <<You want special
rights....>>>
Again, incorrect. True or False: When WE will be able to marry those
of the same gender, YOU will be able to marry those of the same gender.
Answer: TRUE. Thus, what we ask for is, by definition, not "special."
There is no compelling need for people of the same gender to marry.
There is no compelling need for ANYONE to marry.
Certainly there is. That's why the state sees it as being beneficial
and sanctions it.
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
09 May 2005 06:01:27 PM |
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wrote:
<iaah@dodgeit.com> wrote:
There is no compelling need for ANYONE to marry.
Certainly there is. That's why the state sees it as being beneficial
and sanctions it.
A sanction is a penalty. Penalties frequently involve fines. Fines are
typically paid for with cash. The state loves cash. It can never get
enough. So: "Do it for the money!" said Zha Zha Gabor.
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The psychotic person knows that 2 and 2 makes 5 and is perfectly happy about it; the neurotic person knows that 2 and 2 makes 4, but is terribly worried about it.
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
09 May 2005 10:24:42 PM |
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"Dionisio" <moc.rr.thgisni@5ellimd.com> wrote in message
news:bZRfe.19510$i1.15626@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
wbt@privacy.net wrote:
<iaah@dodgeit.com> wrote:
There is no compelling need for ANYONE to marry.
Certainly there is. That's why the state sees it as being beneficial
and sanctions it.
A sanction is a penalty. Penalties frequently involve fines. Fines are
typically paid for with cash. The state loves cash. It can never get
enough. So: "Do it for the money!" said Zha Zha Gabor.
ZsaZsa.
At any rate, the moron is wrong as usual.
Civil marriage *followed* religious marriage, as is more an accomodation and
regulation than any sort of "benefit".
Tho' even if he were right, he compounds his own bigotry: to say that it's
beneficial, but deny it to one group for no real reason is bigotry.
Susan
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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11 May 2005 06:30:27 PM |
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Susan Cohen wrote:
ZsaZsa.
I thought I was spelling it wrong, but she's not in the dictionary...
<sigh>
--
Little Things They Forget to Mention...
Item #5: Latex has an aftertaste.
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
01 May 2005 12:41:34 AM |
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In article <viq8715brqmds0ffk3ui09anvqtdjpsqas@4ax.com>,
says...
Homosexuals should carefully consider Dwight W. Eisenhower's
observation that, "A people that values its privileges above its
principles soon loses both." and quit demand special rights and
privileges before it cost you more than you are willing to pay.
Homosexuals are not demanding special rights and privileges, or superior
rights, or special advantageous laws or anything like that. They are
simply asking for equality.
You know, like blacks did in the 60's. Like women did throughout the
20th century.
--
The Great Hairy One,
ICQ: 118086514
All BAAWA and blue
SMASH! Aha! They'll save every one of us!
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| User: "Maverick" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
01 May 2005 08:32:15 AM |
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"The Great Hairy One" <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1cdf17182bbb2344989858@freenews.iinet.net.au...
In article <viq8715brqmds0ffk3ui09anvqtdjpsqas@4ax.com>,
says...
Homosexuals should carefully consider Dwight W. Eisenhower's
observation that, "A people that values its privileges above its
principles soon loses both." and quit demand special rights and
privileges before it cost you more than you are willing to pay.
Homosexuals are not demanding special rights and privileges,
Bull. The Milk School wants only homosexual students. The ones they want to
set up in Dallas, Tulsa and other places want only homosexual students.
Isn't that "special"?
--
In some political-establishment-versus the-common-people conflicts, the
courts have performed wonderful, courageous service to vindicate the
principles of democracy against rogue legislatures and imperial
executives. However, when the contest takes the form of determining
whether the courts themselves get to establish a judicial preference as
public policy, the record is not so encouraging. Courts have too often
abandoned the independence of judicial neutrality and acted like any other
self-interested political power in order to establish their pet positions
as the law of the land. --- Lynn D. Wardle, Professor of law
Maverick
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| User: "No One" |
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01 May 2005 11:09:27 AM |
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"Maverick" <justgopublic@sbcglobal.com> writes:
"The Great Hairy One" <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1cdf17182bbb2344989858@freenews.iinet.net.au...
In article <viq8715brqmds0ffk3ui09anvqtdjpsqas@4ax.com>,
says...
Homosexuals should carefully consider Dwight W. Eisenhower's
observation that, "A people that values its privileges above its
principles soon loses both." and quit demand special rights and
privileges before it cost you more than you are willing to pay.
Homosexuals are not demanding special rights and privileges,
Bull. The Milk School wants only homosexual students. The ones they want to
set up in Dallas, Tulsa and other places want only homosexual students.
Isn't that "special"?
There would be no need for such schools if the students who go to them
could go to other schools without being threatened with daily beatings
and other unpleasantnesses that create such a hostile environment that
learning becomes impossible.
Since when is being able to get an education without having the crap
beat out of you each day a "special right"?
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| User: "Maverick" |
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01 May 2005 11:29:23 AM |
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"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:m3acnfj5ic.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net...
"Maverick" <justgopublic@sbcglobal.com> writes:
"The Great Hairy One" <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1cdf17182bbb2344989858@freenews.iinet.net.au...
In article <viq8715brqmds0ffk3ui09anvqtdjpsqas@4ax.com>,
wbt@privacy.net
says...
Homosexuals should carefully consider Dwight W. Eisenhower's
observation that, "A people that values its privileges above its
principles soon loses both." and quit demand special rights and
privileges before it cost you more than you are willing to pay.
Homosexuals are not demanding special rights and privileges,
Bull. The Milk School wants only homosexual students. The ones they want
to
set up in Dallas, Tulsa and other places want only homosexual students.
Isn't that "special"?
There would be no need for such schools if the students who go to them
could go to other schools without being threatened with daily beatings
and other unpleasantnesses that create such a hostile environment that
learning becomes impossible.
Since when is being able to get an education without having the crap
beat out of you each day a "special right"?
Since about 1867.
--
In some political-establishment-versus the-common-people conflicts, the
courts have performed wonderful, courageous service to vindicate the
principles of democracy against rogue legislatures and imperial
executives. However, when the contest takes the form of determining
whether the courts themselves get to establish a judicial preference as
public policy, the record is not so encouraging. Courts have too often
abandoned the independence of judicial neutrality and acted like any other
self-interested political power in order to establish their pet positions
as the law of the land. --- Lynn D. Wardle, Professor of law
Maverick
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| User: "No One" |
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02 May 2005 01:30:58 AM |
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"Maverick" <justgopublic@sbcglobal.com> writes:
"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:m3acnfj5ic.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net...
There would be no need for such schools if the students who go to them
could go to other schools without being threatened with daily beatings
and other unpleasantnesses that create such a hostile environment that
learning becomes impossible.
Since when is being able to get an education without having the crap
beat out of you each day a "special right"?
Since about 1867.
Given your previous comment, can we assume you are disappointed
in the outcome of the Civil War and object to legislation designed
to give minorities equal rights?
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| User: "Bonnie Bitch" |
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01 May 2005 12:15:32 PM |
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On Sun, 01 May 2005 16:09:27 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
"Maverick" <justgopublic@sbcglobal.com> writes:
"The Great Hairy One" <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1cdf17182bbb2344989858@freenews.iinet.net.au...
In article <viq8715brqmds0ffk3ui09anvqtdjpsqas@4ax.com>,
says...
Homosexuals should carefully consider Dwight W. Eisenhower's
observation that, "A people that values its privileges above its
principles soon loses both." and quit demand special rights and
privileges before it cost you more than you are willing to pay.
Homosexuals are not demanding special rights and privileges,
Bull. The Milk School wants only homosexual students. The ones they want to
set up in Dallas, Tulsa and other places want only homosexual students.
Isn't that "special"?
There would be no need for such schools if the students who go to them
could go to other schools without being threatened with daily beatings
and other unpleasantnesses that create such a hostile environment that
learning becomes impossible.
Since when is being able to get an education without having the crap
beat out of you each day a "special right"?
I wish I hadn't been in such a good mood when I responded to
Maver-***** earlier, because then I could 've gotten some more mileage
out of:
"Maybe if your sick, festering cult hadn't been persecuting
homosexuals for the last TWO-THOUSAND FUCKING YEARS, we wouldn't need
to re-train your ***** offspring to act like human beings" -- Bonnie
*****, posted to aph 12/05/2004, nominated for MISS QUOTE OF THE WEEK
on 12/06 by L. Michael Roberts
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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01 May 2005 04:36:28 PM |
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In article <zT4de.6097432$Zm5.926160@news.easynews.com>,
justgopublic@sbcglobal.com says...
Bull. The Milk School wants only homosexual students. The ones they want to
set up in Dallas, Tulsa and other places want only homosexual students.
Isn't that "special"?
Aren't there catholic schools which only accept catholics? Aren't there
jewish schools which only accept jews? How about those "desegregated"
schools in the South - try being the wrong race at one of those. There
are still Men's Clubs which don't allow women. There even are women's
groups which don't allow men.
I personally think that all discrimination is wrong, and the above
examples I cite are also wrong. However, until homosexuals are accepted
as normal, until they can wear what they want, act how they want (within
the law, of course) and so on, I see no reason why they can't have a
private slice of real estate somewhere where you have to be a member of
their club to enter.
Cheers,
TGHO
--
The Great Hairy One,
ICQ: 118086514
All BAAWA and blue
SMASH! Aha! They'll save every one of us!
====================================
CEO EAC Roleplaying Division
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hear is me asking for 45d6...
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| User: "Maverick" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
01 May 2005 04:56:48 PM |
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"The Great Hairy One" <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1cdff6ebd56860c2989863@freenews.iinet.net.au...
In article <zT4de.6097432$Zm5.926160@news.easynews.com>,
justgopublic@sbcglobal.com says...
Bull. The Milk School wants only homosexual students. The ones they want
to
set up in Dallas, Tulsa and other places want only homosexual students.
Isn't that "special"?
Aren't there catholic schools which only accept catholics?
As matter of fact, yes. And do you know why? As I am Catholic, I'll tell you
why. Because we believe that our religion is a "special" religion and that
we should have a "special" school for our children because we think that by
them wanting to be Catholic they have a "special" right to attend our
"special" school. Now, using that, tell me the homosexuals are not wanting a
"special" priviledge. The people running the program call it a "special"
program.
So, as you saw the need to snip the part in which it was said that
homosexuals are not seeking "special" priviledges, I'll just leave it at
that and not waste any more time on someone I think is using a dishonest
approach.
PLONK
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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02 May 2005 03:44:22 AM |
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In article <Agcde.1684924$za2.266553@news.easynews.com>,
justgopublic@sbcglobal.com says...
As matter of fact, yes. And do you know why? As I am Catholic, I'll tell you
why. Because we believe that our religion is a "special" religion and that
we should have a "special" school for our children because we think that by
them wanting to be Catholic they have a "special" right to attend our
"special" school. Now, using that, tell me the homosexuals are not wanting a
"special" priviledge. The people running the program call it a "special"
program.
Yes, it's a special program. It's special because it allows the
homosexuals to be themselves without reprisal or persecution. Why do you
think that you catholics have schools which only allow in catholics?
Could it be because the other christian sects once persecuted catholics?
Sheesh. It really is that simple mate.
And by the way - hypocrite much? Here you are saying you want special
schools for catholics, yet you're getting your knickers in a knot over
homosexuals following your example? Why is that?
So, as you saw the need to snip the part
Snip what part? I quoted your post in full, mate.
in which it was said that
homosexuals are not seeking "special" priviledges, I'll just leave it at
that and not waste any more time on someone I think is using a dishonest
approach.
<Sigh> Homosexuals are not seeking "special" privileges. They are
seeking equality. Until they achieve that equality, they want to be able
to have an area or institute where they can be themselves, without fear
of persecution.
PLONK
Kitchen too hot for you?
:)
--
The Great Hairy One,
ICQ: 118086514
All BAAWA and blue
SMASH! Aha! They'll save every one of us!
====================================
CEO EAC Roleplaying Division
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hear is me asking for 45d6...
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| User: "Maverick" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
02 May 2005 07:11:38 AM |
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"The Great Hairy One" <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1ce093731a9a600a989869@freenews.iinet.net.au...
In article <Agcde.1684924$za2.266553@news.easynews.com>,
justgopublic@sbcglobal.com says...
As matter of fact, yes. And do you know why? As I am Catholic, I'll tell
you
why. Because we believe that our religion is a "special" religion and
that
we should have a "special" school for our children because we think that
by
them wanting to be Catholic they have a "special" right to attend our
"special" school. Now, using that, tell me the homosexuals are not
wanting a
"special" priviledge. The people running the program call it a "special"
program.
Yes, it's a special program. It's special because it allows the
homosexuals to be themselves without reprisal or persecution. Why do you
think that you catholics have schools which only allow in catholics?
Could it be because the other christian sects once persecuted catholics?
Sheesh. It really is that simple mate.
And by the way - hypocrite much? Here you are saying you want special
schools for catholics, yet you're getting your knickers in a knot over
homosexuals following your example? Why is that?
Then you missed it. What I am saying, and I've said it for years, is that
the homosexual community keeps denying that they want special priviledges.
My question is, why?
--
In some political-establishment-versus the-common-people conflicts, the
courts have performed wonderful, courageous service to vindicate the
principles of democracy against rogue legislatures and imperial
executives. However, when the contest takes the form of determining
whether the courts themselves get to establish a judicial preference as
public policy, the record is not so encouraging. Courts have too often
abandoned the independence of judicial neutrality and acted like any other
self-interested political power in order to establish their pet positions
as the law of the land. --- Lynn D. Wardle, Professor of law
Maverick
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
02 May 2005 04:22:10 PM |
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In article <_Node.6195295$Zm5.935097@news.easynews.com>,
justgopublic@sbcglobal.com says...
Then you missed it. What I am saying, and I've said it for years, is that
the homosexual community keeps denying that they want special priviledges.
My question is, why?
And we keep telling you that they don't want special privileges. All
they want is the same rights as anyone else. Simple.
As for your argument about restricted access schools, well every
religious or cultural group already has them, why can't homosexuals?
Why do you want catholic's only schools?
Cheers,
TGHO
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ICQ: 118086514
All BAAWA and blue
SMASH! Aha! They'll save every one of us!
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02 May 2005 09:52:21 AM |
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Maverick wrote:
"The Great Hairy One" <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1ce093731a9a600a989869@freenews.iinet.net.au...
In article <Agcde.1684924$za2.266553@news.easynews.com>,
justgopublic@sbcglobal.com says...
As matter of fact, yes. And do you know why? As I am Catholic, I'll tell
you
why. Because we believe that our religion is a "special" religion and
that
we should have a "special" school for our children because we think that
by
them wanting to be Catholic they have a "special" right to attend our
"special" school. Now, using that, tell me the homosexuals are not
wanting a
"special" priviledge. The people running the program call it a "special"
program.
Yes, it's a special program. It's special because it allows the
homosexuals to be themselves without reprisal or persecution. Why do you
think that you catholics have schools which only allow in catholics?
Could it be because the other christian sects once persecuted catholics?
Sheesh. It really is that simple mate.
And by the way - hypocrite much? Here you are saying you want special
schools for catholics, yet you're getting your knickers in a knot over
homosexuals following your example? Why is that?
Then you missed it. What I am saying, and I've said it for years, is that
the homosexual community keeps denying that they want special priviledges.
My question is, why?
A question which you fabricated for your bigoted agenda.
They're not asking for "special rights", they're asking for "equal rights".
Thing is, sometimes "special circumstances" are required
to achieve the objective.
Is that what you wanted to hear?
-- Fritz ...
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02 May 2005 03:46:12 AM |
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In article <Agcde.1684924$za2.266553@news.easynews.com>,
justgopublic@sbcglobal.com says...
PLONK
TGHO: 3
Theists: 0
You guys really need a better coach.
:)
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The Great Hairy One,
ICQ: 118086514
All BAAWA and blue
SMASH! Aha! They'll save every one of us!
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CEO EAC Roleplaying Division
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02 May 2005 09:44:09 AM |
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Maverick wrote:
"The Great Hairy One" <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1cdff6ebd56860c2989863@freenews.iinet.net.au...
In article <zT4de.6097432$Zm5.926160@news.easynews.com>,
justgopublic@sbcglobal.com says...
Bull. The Milk School wants only homosexual students. The ones they want
to
set up in Dallas, Tulsa and other places want only homosexual students.
Isn't that "special"?
Aren't there catholic schools which only accept catholics?
As matter of fact, yes. And do you know why? As I am Catholic, I'll tell you
why. Because we believe that our religion is a "special" religion and that
we should have a "special" school for our children because we think that by
them wanting to be Catholic they have a "special" right to attend our
"special" school. Now, using that, tell me the homosexuals are not wanting a
"special" priviledge. The people running the program call it a "special"
program.
So, as you saw the need to snip the part in which it was said that
homosexuals are not seeking "special" priviledges, I'll just leave it at
that and not waste any more time on someone I think is using a dishonest
approach.
PLONK
I wonder that you waste your precious time coming here at all.
Nobody is going to agree with you, except your bigot friends.
I wish you'd plonk everybody and get on with it.
-- Fritz ...
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02 May 2005 10:20:38 AM |
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On Mon, 02 May 2005 10:44:09 -0400, Fritz <YouPiss@off.net> wrote in
message <42763CB9.220FFF72@off.net>
Maverick wrote:
"The Great Hairy One" <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1cdff6ebd56860c2989863@freenews.iinet.net.au...
In article <zT4de.6097432$Zm5.926160@news.easynews.com>,
justgopublic@sbcglobal.com says...
Bull. The Milk School wants only homosexual students. The ones they want
to
set up in Dallas, Tulsa and other places want only homosexual students.
Isn't that "special"?
Aren't there catholic schools which only accept catholics?
As matter of fact, yes. And do you know why? As I am Catholic, I'll tell you
why. Because we believe that our religion is a "special" religion and that
we should have a "special" school for our children because we think that by
them wanting to be Catholic they have a "special" right to attend our
"special" school. Now, using that, tell me the homosexuals are not wanting a
"special" priviledge. The people running the program call it a "special"
program.
So, as you saw the need to snip the part in which it was said that
homosexuals are not seeking "special" priviledges, I'll just leave it at
that and not waste any more time on someone I think is using a dishonest
approach.
PLONK
I wonder that you waste your precious time coming here at all.
Nobody is going to agree with you, except your bigot friends.
I wish you'd plonk everybody and get on with it.
-- Fritz ...
I thought he already had. Pretty soon he'll be talking to himself
(assuming he doesn't already.)
--
Boy Toy
Toxic Toyz 4 Nasty Boyz
http://www.boytoyvideos.com
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| User: "Maverick" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
02 May 2005 10:50:05 AM |
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"Boy Toy" <BoyToy@Toyz4Boyz.com> wrote in message
news:mugc71de44bsgbqv1qfodfvpbb0gpdugub@4ax.com...
On Mon, 02 May 2005 10:44:09 -0400, Fritz <YouPiss@off.net> wrote in
message <42763CB9.220FFF72@off.net>
Maverick wrote:
"The Great Hairy One" <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1cdff6ebd56860c2989863@freenews.iinet.net.au...
In article <zT4de.6097432$Zm5.926160@news.easynews.com>,
justgopublic@sbcglobal.com says...
Bull. The Milk School wants only homosexual students. The ones they
want
to
set up in Dallas, Tulsa and other places want only homosexual
students.
Isn't that "special"?
Aren't there catholic schools which only accept catholics?
As matter of fact, yes. And do you know why? As I am Catholic, I'll
tell you
why. Because we believe that our religion is a "special" religion and
that
we should have a "special" school for our children because we think
that by
them wanting to be Catholic they have a "special" right to attend our
"special" school. Now, using that, tell me the homosexuals are not
wanting a
"special" priviledge. The people running the program call it a
"special"
program.
So, as you saw the need to snip the part in which it was said that
homosexuals are not seeking "special" priviledges, I'll just leave it
at
that and not waste any more time on someone I think is using a
dishonest
approach.
PLONK
I wonder that you waste your precious time coming here at all.
Nobody is going to agree with you, except your bigot friends.
I wish you'd plonk everybody and get on with it.
-- Fritz ...
I thought he already had. Pretty soon he'll be talking to himself
(assuming he doesn't already.)
--
Boy Toy
Toxic Toyz 4 Nasty Boyz
http://www.boytoyvideos.com
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Here we have two perfect examples of what
mental midgets homosexuals are. They believe, and I mean they really believe
it because here they have admitted it, that by my plonking people, it makes
ME go away and so they wished I would hurry up and plonk everybody. All I
can say to nitwits like that is, keep up the good work, you're a credit to
your kind and represent them most eloquently.
I clear my killfile on the first of every month so I can have a few good
laughs. This month was really special. Thanks again.
--
In some political-establishment-versus the-common-people conflicts, the
courts have performed wonderful, courageous service to vindicate the
principles of democracy against rogue legislatures and imperial
executives. However, when the contest takes the form of determining
whether the courts themselves get to establish a judicial preference as
public policy, the record is not so encouraging. Courts have too often
abandoned the independence of judicial neutrality and acted like any other
self-interested political power in order to establish their pet positions
as the law of the land. --- Lynn D. Wardle, Professor of law
Maverick
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02 May 2005 11:06:18 AM |
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Maverick: <<Here we have two perfect examples of what
mental midgets homosexuals are.
There goes the respect I had for you.... oh well.
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02 May 2005 04:32:00 PM |
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On Mon, 02 May 2005 15:50:05 GMT, "Maverick"
<justgopublic@sbcglobal.com> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following
I clear my killfile on the first of every month so I can have a few good
laughs. This month was really special. Thanks again.
Ah. After making a big show of killfiling people, you quietly start
reading them again. Gee, that makes sense... not.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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02 May 2005 04:37:53 PM |
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Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
On Mon, 02 May 2005 15:50:05 GMT, "Maverick"
<justgopublic@sbcglobal.com> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following
I clear my killfile on the first of every month so I can have a few
good laughs. This month was really special. Thanks again.
Ah. After making a big show of killfiling people, you quietly start
reading them again. Gee, that makes sense... not.
Maverick's a moron. Why anyone bothers to respond to him is a mystery.
--
"Only Buddhism is compatible with science. It covers the smallest
particles to the largest creations of the cosmos. It is the only
religion capable of scientific truth."
Albert Einstein
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| User: "Boy Toy" |
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02 May 2005 10:14:11 PM |
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On Mon, 02 May 2005 15:50:05 GMT, "Maverick"
<justgopublic@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
<N_rde.6211172$Zm5.936868@news.easynews.com>
"Boy Toy" <BoyToy@Toyz4Boyz.com> wrote in message
news:mugc71de44bsgbqv1qfodfvpbb0gpdugub@4ax.com...
On Mon, 02 May 2005 10:44:09 -0400, Fritz <YouPiss@off.net> wrote in
message <42763CB9.220FFF72@off.net>
Maverick wrote:
"The Great Hairy One" <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1cdff6ebd56860c2989863@freenews.iinet.net.au...
In article <zT4de.6097432$Zm5.926160@news.easynews.com>,
justgopublic@sbcglobal.com says...
Bull. The Milk School wants only homosexual students. The ones they
want
to
set up in Dallas, Tulsa and other places want only homosexual
students.
Isn't that "special"?
Aren't there catholic schools which only accept catholics?
As matter of fact, yes. And do you know why? As I am Catholic, I'll
tell you
why. Because we believe that our religion is a "special" religion and
that
we should have a "special" school for our children because we think
that by
them wanting to be Catholic they have a "special" right to attend our
"special" school. Now, using that, tell me the homosexuals are not
wanting a
"special" priviledge. The people running the program call it a
"special"
program.
So, as you saw the need to snip the part in which it was said that
homosexuals are not seeking "special" priviledges, I'll just leave it
at
that and not waste any more time on someone I think is using a
dishonest
approach.
PLONK
I wonder that you waste your precious time coming here at all.
Nobody is going to agree with you, except your bigot friends.
I wish you'd plonk everybody and get on with it.
-- Fritz ...
I thought he already had. Pretty soon he'll be talking to himself
(assuming he doesn't already.)
--
Boy Toy
Toxic Toyz 4 Nasty Boyz
http://www.boytoyvideos.com
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Here we have two perfect examples of what
mental midgets homosexuals are. They believe, and I mean they really believe
it because here they have admitted it, that by my plonking people, it makes
ME go away and so they wished I would hurry up and plonk everybody. All I
can say to nitwits like that is, keep up the good work, you're a credit to
your kind and represent them most eloquently.
I clear my killfile on the first of every month so I can have a few good
laughs. This month was really special. Thanks again.
Your reasoning is bizarre. When you plonk people you are making THEM
go away (from your view.) You seem to believe this proves your
arguments. Your remarks above prove you to be a stereotyping bigot
who thinks way too highly of himself.
--
Boy Toy
Toxic Toyz 4 Nasty Boyz
http://www.boytoyvideos.com
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| User: "Fritz" |
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03 May 2005 10:59:46 AM |
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Boy Toy wrote:
I wonder that you waste your precious time coming here at all.
Nobody is going to agree with you, except your bigot friends.
I wish you'd plonk everybody and get on with it.
I thought he already had. Pretty soon he'll be talking to himself
(assuming he doesn't already.)
Apparently, for many years he worked in a government office somewhere,
helping to ensnare people in red tape. He seems to believes that this somehow
raises him to a position of authority on all things legal. He does seem to
harbor a very negative opinion about America and it freedoms.
-- Fritz ...
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