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Religions > Atheism |
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"J Young" |
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28 Mar 2005 11:47:58 AM |
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ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
Why would any man need another man to provide him with health care
benefits? The advantage of gay partnerships is that there are no
children at home that need attending. Let each man provide his own
health care, just like single straight people do. This notion that one
guy stays home and plays "Donna Reed" while the other one goes to work
should not become a burden on the American health care system. The
people of Michigan (and many other states) have spoken; No gay
marriage. Stop seeking "special" dispensations just because your
different.
http://www.freep.com/news/mich/gay22e_20050322.htm
Despite marriage ban, couples want health care
The American Civil Liberties Union filed a lawsuit Monday asking the
courts to protect same-sex couples' health benefits in light of a state
constitutional ban on gay marriage.
In the suit, filed in Ingham County Circuit Court, the ACLU asked the
court to stipulate that the ban on gay marriage does not extend to
health care benefits for same-sex partners. The amendment, they said,
is ambiguous.
The ACLU filed the suit less than a week after state Attorney General
Mike Cox issued his legal interpretation about what effect the
amendment should have on health benefits. He concluded that the
amendment bans government agencies from extending benefits to same-sex
couples in any future contract negotiations.
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
17 Apr 2005 12:13:18 AM |
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"thomas p" <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
news:a11261p9ck1k6689s4vgjk1vnk5c5dgsrl@4ax.com...
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 05:54:39 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 04:38:42 GMT, drained his beer,
leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the
following
Idiot. There are any number of homo-oriented churches in the states
mentioned that will perform a same sex marriage ceremony. Get you head
out of your *****, boy.
Which have no legal meaning. We're discussing the legal status
confered by a marriage license here.
He is aware of that. He enjoys being an idiot.
Lucky for him, then.
Susan
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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17 Apr 2005 04:33:24 AM |
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On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 05:13:18 GMT, "Susan Cohen" <flavia18@verizon.net>
wrote:
"thomas p" <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
news:a11261p9ck1k6689s4vgjk1vnk5c5dgsrl@4ax.com...
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 05:54:39 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 04:38:42 GMT, drained his beer,
leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the
following
Idiot. There are any number of homo-oriented churches in the states
mentioned that will perform a same sex marriage ceremony. Get you head
out of your *****, boy.
Which have no legal meaning. We're discussing the legal status
confered by a marriage license here.
He is aware of that. He enjoys being an idiot.
Lucky for him, then.
Yes, he is truly blessed.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
17 Apr 2005 12:30:22 AM |
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On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 05:54:39 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 04:38:42 GMT, drained his beer,
leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the
following
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 03:19:34 GMT, Dionisio
<moc.rr.thgisni@5ellimd.com> wrote:
wrote:
No state prohibits homosexual marriage.
Except Hawaii, Alaska, Ohio, and all the others.
Idiot. There are any number of homo-oriented churches in the states
mentioned that will perform a same sex marriage ceremony. Get you head
out of your *****, boy.
Which have no legal meaning. We're discussing the legal status
confered by a marriage license here.
Then the statement above about states denying marriage made by your
homo-friend is a lie. You girls need to get you ***** together.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
15 Apr 2005 08:28:17 PM |
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wrote:
On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 21:59:12 GMT, Dubh Ghall <puck@pooks.hill.fey>
wrote:
On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:26:41 GMT, "Maverick" <justgopub...@nomail.com> wrote:
Heteros are asking to marry members of the same sex?
And Gays, are asking the right to marry the person they love, just like the
Heterosexuals
Homos can do that at will. No state prohibits homosexual marriage. One
even recognizes them.
Ignoring the blatantly derogatory terminology above, it is not true that
all states allow same-sex marriage. Currently, the states where
same-sex marriage is illegal are:
Prohibited by Law:
New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, District of Columbia,
Virginia, West Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Florida,
Albabama, Tennessee, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, South Dakota,
Kansas, Texas, Colorado, Wyoming, Idaho, Arizona, Alaska, and Washington.
Prohibited by State Constitution:
Georgia, Kentucky, Ohio, Michigan, Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas,
Missouri, Oklahoma, Nebraska, North Dakota, Montana, Utah, Nevada, and
Oregon.
The states of Hawaii, Maine, Vermont, New Jersey, and California allow
Domestic Partnerships or Civil Unions (with only Massachusetts allowing
same-sex marriage.)
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| User: "Paul Mitchum" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
28 Mar 2005 09:49:58 PM |
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Chad Gore <DWharding@commonsense.nett> wrote:
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:52:42 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
On 28 Mar 2005 09:47:58 -0800, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
Why would any man need another man to provide him with health care
benefits? The advantage of gay partnerships is that there are no
children at home that need attending.
Not in the real world. Many gay couples adopt, or have children fro,
when they were trying to pass as straight. Oh, and gay rights also
includes lesbians, who can and do have children.
////////////////////
Bull ***** ! Most of the straight children are born to preditors, and are
vitimized with nowhere to run ! You can't even lie good .
Chad, I realize you really enjoy trolling like this, but please... A
little bit goes a long way, and you come off sounding like you don't
want gays to have civil rights.
And if you don't, you should just come out and say it, eh?
--
"Eighty percent of Republicans are just Democrats who don't know what's
going on." -- Robert Kennedy, Jr.
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29 Mar 2005 02:06:50 AM |
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Paul Mitchum wrote:
Chad Gore <DWharding@commonsense.nett> wrote:
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:52:42 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
On 28 Mar 2005 09:47:58 -0800, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
Why would any man need another man to provide him with health care
benefits? The advantage of gay partnerships is that there are no
children at home that need attending.
Not in the real world. Many gay couples adopt, or have children fro,
when they were trying to pass as straight. Oh, and gay rights also
includes lesbians, who can and do have children.
////////////////////
Bull ***** ! Most of the straight children are born to preditors, and are
vitimized with nowhere to run ! You can't even lie good .
Chad, I realize you really enjoy trolling like this, but please... A
little bit goes a long way, and you come off sounding like you don't
want gays to have civil rights.
And if you don't, you should just come out and say it, eh?
xxxx
I will say that gays will not marry because marriage is for
man and woman. It's been that way since heck was a pup and
it isn't about to change now just because of some gays
whining when they should be thankful sodomy isn't banned and
the government is spending funds fighting AIDS. They could
have to go it alone. Are they thankful? Hell no!!
That's gratitude for you.
29
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| User: "Dennis Kemmerer" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
29 Mar 2005 11:24:45 AM |
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"SMITH29" <smith29@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:C6mdnVlb55iHltTfRVn-pw@comcast.com...
[snip]
I will say that gays will not marry because marriage is for
man and woman.
It's already happening.
It's been that way since heck was a pup and
it isn't about to change now just because of some gays
whining when they should be thankful sodomy isn't banned and
the government is spending funds fighting AIDS. They could
have to go it alone. Are they thankful? Hell no!!
That's gratitude for you.
You're a moron.
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| User: "SMITH29" |
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30 Mar 2005 02:03:32 AM |
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Dennis Kemmerer wrote:
"SMITH29" <smith29@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:C6mdnVlb55iHltTfRVn-pw@comcast.com...
[snip]
I will say that gays will not marry because marriage is for
man and woman.
It's already happening.
It's been that way since heck was a pup and
it isn't about to change now just because of some gays
whining when they should be thankful sodomy isn't banned and
the government is spending funds fighting AIDS. They could
have to go it alone. Are they thankful? Hell no!!
That's gratitude for you.
You're a moron.
xxxx
Stick this up your stretched AIDS hole and think nice thoughts
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ACLU sues for gays' benefits
Despite marriage ban, couples want health care
March 22, 2005
BY NANCY A. YOUSSEF
FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER
The American Civil Liberties Union filed a lawsuit Monday
asking the courts to protect same-sex couples' health
benefits in light of a state constitutional ban on gay marriage.
In the suit, filed in Ingham County Circuit Court, the ACLU
asked the court to stipulate that the ban on gay marriage
does not extend to health care benefits for same-sex
partners. The amendment, they said, is ambiguous.
The ACLU filed the suit less than a week after state
Attorney General Mike Cox issued his legal interpretation
about what effect the amendment should have on health
benefits. He concluded that the amendment bans government
agencies from extending benefits to same-sex couples in any
future contract negotiations.
In the suit, the ACLU said Michigan voters passed the
Marriage Amendment in November because they wanted to
protect the sanctity of marriage, not to deprive same-sex
couples of benefits. The amendment, called Proposal 2 on the
ballot, received 59 percent of the vote.
"The voters in Michigan, in approving the Marriage
Amendment, were not motivated by any malevolent desire to
strip families of health insurance or job benefits," the
ACLU wrote in its suit.
The 41 plaintiffs all work for a state government agency and
are members of a nonprofit called National Pride at Work
Inc., an AFL-CIO constituency group that advocates for gay
and lesbian work issues.
Allison Pierce, a spokeswoman for the Attorney General's
Office, said Monday that officials couldn't comment on the
suit because they have not seen it yet.
But Michigan Republican Party Chairman Saul Anuzis issued a
news release Monday defending Cox's position.
"The people of Michigan have spoken with a clear voice to
defend marriage, and now liberal activists are trying to
subvert Michigan's will," Anuzis wrote in his party's statement.
Although Cox's legal interpretation last week was hailed by
several faith-based organizations, it worried people like
Jerome Post, 40, a labor relations specialist in Kalamazoo
and one of the plaintiffs listed in the suit.
Post said that he has been with his partner for 14 years and
that he took his job, in part, because it offered health
benefits to his partner. Two months ago, his partner became
sick. Post said not knowing what may happen to his health
care coverage causes him "immense stress."
"It's scary because of the uncertainty of the amendment,"
said Dennis Patrick, 42, of Superior Township. Patrick and
his partner have five children living in their home -- all
former or current foster children. "If we lose
domestic-partner benefits, are we going to lose adoption
rights next?"
There have not been any reported cases of any same-sex
couples losing their benefits since the ban passed.
The State Attorney General's Office will defend the case
when it appears in the Ingham County Court. A court date
hasn't been set.
Contact NANCY A. YOUSSEF at 313-222-8769 or
youssef@freepress.com.
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30 Mar 2005 11:28:15 AM |
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"SMITH29" <smith29@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:SM6dnap1vMEpxtffRVn-iw@comcast.com...
Dennis Kemmerer wrote:
"SMITH29" <smith29@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:C6mdnVlb55iHltTfRVn-pw@comcast.com...
[snip]
I will say that gays will not marry because marriage is for
man and woman.
It's already happening.
It's been that way since heck was a pup and
it isn't about to change now just because of some gays
whining when they should be thankful sodomy isn't banned and
the government is spending funds fighting AIDS. They could
have to go it alone. Are they thankful? Hell no!!
That's gratitude for you.
You're a moron.
xxxx
Stick this up your stretched AIDS hole and think nice thoughts
Go play with yourself in my killfile, *****.
[snip]
[plonk]
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| User: "SMITH29" |
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30 Mar 2005 09:22:34 PM |
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Dennis Kemmerer wrote:
"SMITH29" <smith29@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:SM6dnap1vMEpxtffRVn-iw@comcast.com...
Dennis Kemmerer wrote:
"SMITH29" <smith29@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:C6mdnVlb55iHltTfRVn-pw@comcast.com...
[snip]
I will say that gays will not marry because marriage is for
man and woman.
It's already happening.
It's been that way since heck was a pup and
it isn't about to change now just because of some gays
whining when they should be thankful sodomy isn't banned and
the government is spending funds fighting AIDS. They could
have to go it alone. Are they thankful? Hell no!!
That's gratitude for you.
You're a moron.
xxxx
Stick this up your stretched AIDS hole and think nice thoughts
Go play with yourself in my killfile, *****.
[snip]
[plonk]
xxxx
Now you gone and hurt my feelings.
sniff sniff
29:-(
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| User: "Jeff North" |
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31 Mar 2005 08:37:46 AM |
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 19:22:34 -0800, in alt.politics.homosexuality
SMITH29 <smith29@comcast.net> wrote:
| xxxx
| Now you gone and hurt my feelings.
| sniff sniff
Since when did trolls have feelings.
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jnorthau@yourpantsyahoo.com.au : Remove your pants to reply
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| User: "" |
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31 Mar 2005 07:15:20 PM |
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On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 14:37:46 GMT, Jeff North <jnorthau@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:
Gay couples cannotfile joint tax returns.
So, what, neither can het couples who are cohabiting.
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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30 Mar 2005 01:02:09 PM |
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In article <SM6dnap1vMEpxtffRVn-iw@comcast.com> writes:
Dennis Kemmerer wrote:
"SMITH29" < > wrote in message
news:C6mdnVlb55iHltTfRVn-pw@comcast.com...
[snip]
I will say that gays will not marry because marriage is for
man and woman.
It's already happening.
It's been that way since heck was a pup and
it isn't about to change now just because of some gays
whining when they should be thankful sodomy isn't banned and
the government is spending funds fighting AIDS. They could
have to go it alone. Are they thankful? Hell no!!
That's gratitude for you.
You're a moron.
xxxx
Stick this up your stretched AIDS hole and think nice thoughts
Sorry, but I'm not into anal sex. Too dangerous: I mean, just LOOK
at what it has done to your poor brain!
That said:
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ACLU sues for gays' benefits
Despite marriage ban, couples want health care
March 22, 2005
BY NANCY A. YOUSSEF
FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER
The American Civil Liberties Union filed a lawsuit Monday
asking the courts to protect same-sex couples' health
benefits in light of a state constitutional ban on gay marriage.
In the suit, filed in Ingham County Circuit Court, the ACLU
asked the court to stipulate that the ban on gay marriage
does not extend to health care benefits for same-sex
partners. The amendment, they said, is ambiguous.
Good for them. I hope they win this one.
-- cary
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30 Mar 2005 09:29:24 PM |
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Carp Kettle wrote:
In article <SM6dnap1vMEpxtffRVn-iw@comcast.com> writes:
Dennis Kemmerer wrote:
"SMITH29" < > wrote in message
news:C6mdnVlb55iHltTfRVn-pw@comcast.com...
[snip]
I will say that gays will not marry because marriage is for
man and woman.
It's already happening.
It's been that way since heck was a pup and
it isn't about to change now just because of some gays
whining when they should be thankful sodomy isn't banned and
the government is spending funds fighting AIDS. They could
have to go it alone. Are they thankful? Hell no!!
That's gratitude for you.
You're a moron.
xxxx
Stick this up your stretched AIDS hole and think nice thoughts
Sorry, but I'm not into anal sex.
xxxx
You made up a new name for it.
Too dangerous: I mean, just LOOK
at what it has done to your poor brain!
xxxx
I dunno, what did it do?
29
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29 Mar 2005 02:23:52 PM |
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In article <C6mdnVlb55iHltTfRVn-pw@comcast.com> writes:
Paul Mitchum wrote:
Chad Gore <DWharding@commonsense.nett> wrote:
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:52:42 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
On 28 Mar 2005 09:47:58 -0800, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
Why would any man need another man to provide him with health care
benefits? The advantage of gay partnerships is that there are no
children at home that need attending.
Not in the real world. Many gay couples adopt, or have children fro,
when they were trying to pass as straight. Oh, and gay rights also
includes lesbians, who can and do have children.
////////////////////
Bull ***** ! Most of the straight children are born to preditors, and are
vitimized with nowhere to run ! You can't even lie good .
Chad, I realize you really enjoy trolling like this, but please... A
little bit goes a long way, and you come off sounding like you don't
want gays to have civil rights.
And if you don't, you should just come out and say it, eh?
xxxx
I will say that gays will not marry because marriage is for
man and woman.
Not always, not when and where I grew up.
If one was black and one was white, marriage was not for them.
And this had been the case for the better part of two
centuries.
We have since widened the definition and extended the legal
concept of marriage.
And if we, as a society, choose to redefine and extend still further,
then we will do so.
-- cary
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30 Mar 2005 02:07:25 AM |
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Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <C6mdnVlb55iHltTfRVn-pw@comcast.com> writes:
Paul Mitchum wrote:
Chad Gore <DWharding@commonsense.nett> wrote:
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:52:42 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
On 28 Mar 2005 09:47:58 -0800, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
Why would any man need another man to provide him with health care
benefits? The advantage of gay partnerships is that there are no
children at home that need attending.
Not in the real world. Many gay couples adopt, or have children fro,
when they were trying to pass as straight. Oh, and gay rights also
includes lesbians, who can and do have children.
////////////////////
Bull ***** ! Most of the straight children are born to preditors, and are
vitimized with nowhere to run ! You can't even lie good .
Chad, I realize you really enjoy trolling like this, but please... A
little bit goes a long way, and you come off sounding like you don't
want gays to have civil rights.
And if you don't, you should just come out and say it, eh?
xxxx
I will say that gays will not marry because marriage is for
man and woman.
Not always, not when and where I grew up.
If one was black and one was white, marriage was not for them.
And this had been the case for the better part of two
centuries.
We have since widened the definition and extended the legal
concept of marriage.
And if we, as a society, choose to redefine and extend still further,
then we will do so.
xxxx
Taint gonna happen!!!
THE29
-- cary
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30 Mar 2005 02:54:42 AM |
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SMITH29 <smith29@comcast.net> wrote:
Cary Kittrell wrote:
[..]
If one was black and one was white, marriage was not for them. And this
had been the case for the better part of two centuries.
We have since widened the definition and extended the legal concept of
marriage.
And if we, as a society, choose to redefine and extend still further,
then we will do so.
xxxx
Taint gonna happen!!!
Already has.
--
"Eighty percent of Republicans are just Democrats who don't know what's
going on." -- Robert Kennedy, Jr.
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30 Mar 2005 03:37:32 AM |
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Paul Mitchum wrote:
SMITH29 <smith29@comcast.net> wrote:
Cary Kittrell wrote:
[..]
If one was black and one was white, marriage was not for them. And this
had been the case for the better part of two centuries.
We have since widened the definition and extended the legal concept of
marriage.
And if we, as a society, choose to redefine and extend still further,
then we will do so.
xxxx
Taint gonna happen!!!
Already has.
xxxx
CLU sues for gays' benefits
Despite marriage ban, couples want health care
March 22, 2005
BY NANCY A. YOUSSEF
FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER
The American Civil Liberties Union filed a lawsuit Monday
asking the courts to protect same-sex couples' health
benefits in light of a state constitutional ban on gay marriage.
In the suit, filed in Ingham County Circuit Court, the ACLU
asked the court to stipulate that the ban on gay marriage
does not extend to health care benefits for same-sex
partners. The amendment, they said, is ambiguous.
The ACLU filed the suit less than a week after state
Attorney General Mike Cox issued his legal interpretation
about what effect the amendment should have on health
benefits. He concluded that the amendment bans government
agencies from extending benefits to same-sex couples in any
future contract negotiations.
In the suit, the ACLU said Michigan voters passed the
Marriage Amendment in November because they wanted to
protect the sanctity of marriage, not to deprive same-sex
couples of benefits. The amendment, called Proposal 2 on the
ballot, received 59 percent of the vote.
"The voters in Michigan, in approving the Marriage
Amendment, were not motivated by any malevolent desire to
strip families of health insurance or job benefits," the
ACLU wrote in its suit.
The 41 plaintiffs all work for a state government agency and
are members of a nonprofit called National Pride at Work
Inc., an AFL-CIO constituency group that advocates for gay
and lesbian work issues.
Allison Pierce, a spokeswoman for the Attorney General's
Office, said Monday that officials couldn't comment on the
suit because they have not seen it yet.
But Michigan Republican Party Chairman Saul Anuzis issued a
news release Monday defending Cox's position.
"The people of Michigan have spoken with a clear voice to
defend marriage, and now liberal activists are trying to
subvert Michigan's will," Anuzis wrote in his party's statement.
Although Cox's legal interpretation last week was hailed by
several faith-based organizations, it worried people like
Jerome Post, 40, a labor relations specialist in Kalamazoo
and one of the plaintiffs listed in the suit.
Post said that he has been with his partner for 14 years and
that he took his job, in part, because it offered health
benefits to his partner. Two months ago, his partner became
sick. Post said not knowing what may happen to his health
care coverage causes him "immense stress."
"It's scary because of the uncertainty of the amendment,"
said Dennis Patrick, 42, of Superior Township. Patrick and
his partner have five children living in their home -- all
former or current foster children. "If we lose
domestic-partner benefits, are we going to lose adoption
rights next?"
There have not been any reported cases of any same-sex
couples losing their benefits since the ban passed.
The State Attorney General's Office will defend the case
when it appears in the Ingham County Court. A court date
hasn't been set.
Contact NANCY A. YOUSSEF at 313-222-8769 or
youssef@freepress.com.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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30 Mar 2005 04:26:04 AM |
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SMITH29 wrote:
Paul Mitchum wrote:
SMITH29 <smith29@comcast.net> wrote:
Cary Kittrell wrote:
[..]
If one was black and one was white, marriage was not for them. And this
had been the case for the better part of two centuries.
We have since widened the definition and extended the legal concept of
marriage.
And if we, as a society, choose to redefine and extend still further,
then we will do so.
xxxx
Taint gonna happen!!!
Already has.
xxxx
ACLU sues for gays' benefits
<Snip what I've already read eleventy-billion times already>
I see nothing wrong in this post you're proving Smith. What are you
trying to say? The ACLU is wrong for fighting for the rights of
Americans? If that's the case, Rush Limbaugh should be begging for
forgiveness for utilizing the ACLU when his medical records were going
to be exposed. You know this happened, right? The ACLU fought for Rush
Limbaugh?
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| User: "Paul Mitchum" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
29 Mar 2005 02:14:20 AM |
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SMITH29 <smith29@comcast.net> wrote:
I will say that gays will not marry because marriage is for man and woman.
Too late. Gay marriage happens all the time. They just can't get a
license from the justice of the peace.
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| User: "SMITH29" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
29 Mar 2005 02:49:26 AM |
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Paul Mitchum wrote:
SMITH29 <smith29@comcast.net> wrote:
I will say that gays will not marry because marriage is for man and woman.
Too late. Gay marriage happens all the time. They just can't get a
license from the justice of the peace.
xxxx
So ?
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
28 Mar 2005 08:13:56 PM |
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Chad Gore wrote:
Bull ***** ! Most of the straight children are born to preditors, and
are vitimized with nowhere to run ! You can't even lie good .
<LOL> So, heterosexuals are predators, eh?
(And folks wonder why I don't use killfiles.)
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Quoted in the New Scientist [1995]:
A Doctor at Yale has observed that all the fingers have names, but that only the big toe has a name. He thus proposes names for all 5 toes: porcellus fori, porcellus domi, porcellus carnivorus, porcellus non voratus, porcellus plorans domum.
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| User: "SMITH29" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
29 Mar 2005 01:53:23 AM |
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Dionisio wrote:
Chad Gore wrote:
Bull ***** ! Most of the straight children are born to preditors, and
are vitimized with nowhere to run ! You can't even lie good .
<LOL> So, heterosexuals are predators, eh?
(And folks wonder why I don't use killfiles.)
xxxx
I remember the time last year when Clave announced he
emptied his kill file.
We jumped his ***** so furious he had to throw of the shields
and evaporate again. :-)
Kill files are for pussies....
THe29
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
29 Mar 2005 01:50:51 AM |
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"SMITH29" <smith29@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:C6mdnV5b55hsmtTfRVn-pw@comcast.com...
Kill files are for pussies....
No, they're for people who don't need to be bothered with sick trash.
Susan
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| User: "Clave" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
29 Mar 2005 05:18:01 PM |
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"Susan Cohen" <flavia13@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:vN72e.13963$Go4.6617@trnddc05...
"SMITH29" <smith29@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:C6mdnV5b55hsmtTfRVn-pw@comcast.com...
Kill files are for pussies....
No, they're for people who don't need to be bothered with sick trash.
Ever notice how the people who bray against killfiles are so often the
inhabitants of many of them?
Jim
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
29 Mar 2005 08:38:23 PM |
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"Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDammit@CableSpeed.com> wrote in message
news:LNidnenwztx5fdTfRVn-uw@cablespeedwa.com...
"Susan Cohen" <flavia13@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:vN72e.13963$Go4.6617@trnddc05...
"SMITH29" <smith29@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Kill files are for pussies....
No, they're for people who don't need to be bothered with sick trash.
Ever notice how the people who bray against killfiles are so often the
inhabitants of many of them?
Exactly.
They hate having their juvenile need for attention go unassuaged.
Susan
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
29 Mar 2005 06:43:47 PM |
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 15:18:01 -0800, "Clave"
<ClaviusNoSpamDammit@CableSpeed.com> wrote:
"Susan Cohen" <flavia13@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:vN72e.13963$Go4.6617@trnddc05...
"SMITH29" <smith29@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:C6mdnV5b55hsmtTfRVn-pw@comcast.com...
Kill files are for pussies....
No, they're for people who don't need to be bothered with sick trash.
Ever notice how the people who bray against killfiles are so often the
inhabitants of many of them?
No. I never see that. ;->
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| User: "SMITH29" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
29 Mar 2005 02:26:35 AM |
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Susan Cohen wrote:
"SMITH29" <smith29@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:C6mdnV5b55hsmtTfRVn-pw@comcast.com...
Kill files are for pussies....
No, they're for people who don't need to be bothered with sick trash.
Susan
xxxx
*****......
The29
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
28 Mar 2005 09:59:44 PM |
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 20:57:44 -0500, Chad Gore
<DWharding@commonsense.nett> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:52:42 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Not in the real world. Many gay couples adopt, or have children fro,
when they were trying to pass as straight. Oh, and gay rights also
includes lesbians, who can and do have children.
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Bull ***** ! Most of the straight children are born to preditors, and
are vitimized with nowhere to run ! You can't even lie good .
Wow, I could rip you on your mangling of the English language, but
that's too easy a shot.
I'm bi. I've known I was attracted to both men and women. Never
molested, and never knew a gay man until high school. Didn't have a
same-sex encounter for years after that.
You're an ignorant *****.
How about couples where one works and the other is disabled? One
works while the other attends university full time? One works while
the other is caring for an elderly relative? One works while the
other is self-employed or has a job that doesn't give benefits? How
about a situation where one works because the other prefers to take
care of the home?
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Homosexuality is "Wrong". Couples you say ? A coupling is male and
female . Now, you talk queer but it's coming up hetrosexual.
It's normal for about 5% of the population.
The People of Mississippi spoke too: no rights for Blacks!
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Ah", the negro attack ***** again ! You bore us to death ! :)
"Us" skippy? You and your imaginary friends again?
And it's a special right is only straights get it. If you are really
against special privileges, you'd support gay marriage.
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It's stupid , like abortion is stupid !!
Well, there's a well constructed argument!
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Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
28 Mar 2005 07:11:03 PM |
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On 28 Mar 2005 09:47:58 -0800, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote:
Why would any man need another man to provide him with health care
benefits?
Because they paid for it?
The advantage of gay partnerships is that there are no
children at home that need attending.
You mean, just like straight married couples without kids?
Let each man provide his own
health care, just like single straight people do. This notion that one
guy stays home and plays "Donna Reed" while the other one goes to work
should not become a burden on the American health care system.
You mean, just like straight married couples without kids?
The
people of Michigan (and many other states) have spoken; No gay
marriage.
Only for the moment, sweety. It won't last because it can't last.
Oh, I recall the good people of Mississippi weren't too keen on equal
rights for coloreds as well... not that it lasted, of course.
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| User: "Chad Gore" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
28 Mar 2005 07:45:15 PM |
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:07:09 GMT, "Sanders Kaufman"
<usenet@kaufman.net> wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1112032077.982973.209230@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Why would any man need another man to provide him with health care
benefits? The advantage of gay partnerships is that there are no
children at home that need attending.
Leave it to a religious whacko to refer to "no children at home" as an
"advantage".
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The faggots like having company over to molest and rape there
children !! Keeps the ***** brigade moving forward, if thats what you
want to call it !! What a bunch of sick'o's .
AIDS is spreading among blacks at an alarming rate.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
20 Apr 2005 04:47:43 PM |
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Prayer For The Sick:
Almighty and Everlasting Father, you are the salvation of all
believers. We entreat you to hear our prayer for those who are sick.
May they in restored health return you thanks once again in the company
of the faithful. We ask this in Christ's name. Amen.
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