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"J Young" |
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28 Mar 2005 05:47:58 PM |
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ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
Why would any man need another man to provide him with health care
benefits? The advantage of gay partnerships is that there are no
children at home that need attending. Let each man provide his own
health care, just like single straight people do. This notion that one
guy stays home and plays "Donna Reed" while the other one goes to work
should not become a burden on the American health care system. The
people of Michigan (and many other states) have spoken; No gay
marriage. Stop seeking "special" dispensations just because your
different.
http://www.freep.com/news/mich/gay22e_20050322.htm
Despite marriage ban, couples want health care
The American Civil Liberties Union filed a lawsuit Monday asking the
courts to protect same-sex couples' health benefits in light of a state
constitutional ban on gay marriage.
In the suit, filed in Ingham County Circuit Court, the ACLU asked the
court to stipulate that the ban on gay marriage does not extend to
health care benefits for same-sex partners. The amendment, they said,
is ambiguous.
The ACLU filed the suit less than a week after state Attorney General
Mike Cox issued his legal interpretation about what effect the
amendment should have on health benefits. He concluded that the
amendment bans government agencies from extending benefits to same-sex
couples in any future contract negotiations.
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| User: "Elf M. Sternberg" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
28 Mar 2005 06:14:17 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
The advantage of gay partnerships is that there are no children at
home that need attending.
Assuming, of course, that neither man has children already. And
assuming, of course, that infertile heterosexual couples do.
Elf
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| User: "Paul Mitchum" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
29 Mar 2005 03:49:58 AM |
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Elf M. Sternberg <elf@drizzle.com> wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
The advantage of gay partnerships is that there are no children at home
that need attending.
Assuming, of course, that neither man has children already. And
assuming, of course, that infertile heterosexual couples do.
Hehe.. Kind of makes me wonder whether a strawman can marry another
strawman.
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"Eighty percent of Republicans are just Democrats who don't know what's
going on." -- Robert Kennedy, Jr.
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
29 Mar 2005 05:01:29 AM |
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"Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.c0m> wrote in message
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Elf M. Sternberg <elf@drizzle.com> wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
The advantage of gay partnerships is that there are no children at home
that need attending.
Assuming, of course, that neither man has children already. And
assuming, of course, that infertile heterosexual couples do.
Hehe.. Kind of makes me wonder whether a strawman can marry another
strawman.
Isn't that were non-sequiturs come from?
Susan
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
29 Mar 2005 02:22:18 PM |
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Susan Cohen wrote:
"Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.c0m> wrote in message
news:1gu5fvm.15v40941i4g2ckN%usenet@mile23.c0m...
Elf M. Sternberg <elf@drizzle.com> wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
The advantage of gay partnerships is that there are no children at home
that need attending.
Assuming, of course, that neither man has children already. And
assuming, of course, that infertile heterosexual couples do.
Hehe.. Kind of makes me wonder whether a strawman can marry another
strawman.
Isn't that were non-sequiturs come from?
Procreation != marriage.
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Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"[T]hose who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves;
and, under the rule of a just God, cannot long retain it."
-- Pres. George W. Bush, Hypocrite, his inauguration speech, 2005
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| User: "Rick" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
31 Mar 2005 04:24:56 AM |
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Paul Mitchum wrote in message <1gu5fvm.15v40941i4g2ckN%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
Elf M. Sternberg <elf@drizzle.com> wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
The advantage of gay partnerships is that there are no children at home
that need attending.
Assuming, of course, that neither man has children already. And
assuming, of course, that infertile heterosexual couples do.
Hehe.. Kind of makes me wonder whether a strawman can marry another
strawman.
They might want to if they thought each other was good in the hay.
- Rick
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| User: "Sanders Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
01 Apr 2005 01:16:06 AM |
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"Rick" <Npl1O_SalphaP_AgeekM@juno.com> wrote in message
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Paul Mitchum wrote in message
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Hehe.. Kind of makes me wonder whether a strawman can marry another
strawman.
They might want to if they thought each other was good in the hay.
The hay in a strawman probably comes from the same seed.
That means it can get married in many red states, even if it is not yet
fully grown.
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| User: "Clave" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
01 Apr 2005 06:07:58 AM |
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"Sanders Kaufman" <usenet@kaufman.net> wrote in message
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"Rick" <Npl1O_SalphaP_AgeekM@juno.com> wrote in message
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Paul Mitchum wrote in message <1gu5fvm.15v40941i4g2ckN%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
Hehe.. Kind of makes me wonder whether a strawman can marry another
strawman.
They might want to if they thought each other was good in the hay.
The hay in a strawman probably comes from the same seed.
That means it can get married in many red states, even if it is not yet fully
grown.
Which gives Monsanto more jurisdiction than the courts.
Jim
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
02 Apr 2005 02:38:10 AM |
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On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 01:16:06 GMT, "Sanders Kaufman"
<usenet@kaufman.net> wrote:
"Rick" <Npl1O_SalphaP_AgeekM@juno.com> wrote in message
news:3b1cdcF6ghtavU1@individual.net...
Paul Mitchum wrote in message
<1gu5fvm.15v40941i4g2ckN%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
Hehe.. Kind of makes me wonder whether a strawman can marry another
strawman.
They might want to if they thought each other was good in the hay.
The hay in a strawman probably comes from the same seed.
That means it can get married in many red states, even if it is not yet
fully grown.
and a first cousin!
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
31 Mar 2005 07:52:49 PM |
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 22:24:56 -0600, "Rick"
<Npl1O_SalphaP_AgeekM@juno.com> wrote:
Paul Mitchum wrote in message <1gu5fvm.15v40941i4g2ckN%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
Elf M. Sternberg <elf@drizzle.com> wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
The advantage of gay partnerships is that there are no children at home
that need attending.
Assuming, of course, that neither man has children already. And
assuming, of course, that infertile heterosexual couples do.
Hehe.. Kind of makes me wonder whether a strawman can marry another
strawman.
They might want to if they thought each other was good in the hay.
What if they were to bale out?
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "thomas p" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
01 Apr 2005 07:11:28 PM |
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On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 11:52:49 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 22:24:56 -0600, "Rick"
<Npl1O_SalphaP_AgeekM@juno.com> wrote:
Paul Mitchum wrote in message <1gu5fvm.15v40941i4g2ckN%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
Elf M. Sternberg <elf@drizzle.com> wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
The advantage of gay partnerships is that there are no children at home
that need attending.
Assuming, of course, that neither man has children already. And
assuming, of course, that infertile heterosexual couples do.
Hehe.. Kind of makes me wonder whether a strawman can marry another
strawman.
They might want to if they thought each other was good in the hay.
What if they were to bale out?
I find your humor a bit seedy.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
02 Apr 2005 02:37:37 AM |
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On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 21:11:28 +0200, thomas p
<tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 11:52:49 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 22:24:56 -0600, "Rick"
<Npl1O_SalphaP_AgeekM@juno.com> wrote:
Paul Mitchum wrote in message <1gu5fvm.15v40941i4g2ckN%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
Elf M. Sternberg <elf@drizzle.com> wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
The advantage of gay partnerships is that there are no children at home
that need attending.
Assuming, of course, that neither man has children already. And
assuming, of course, that infertile heterosexual couples do.
Hehe.. Kind of makes me wonder whether a strawman can marry another
strawman.
They might want to if they thought each other was good in the hay.
What if they were to bale out?
I find your humor a bit seedy.
Oh, suuuuuuuure, try and twine the cascade further.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
02 Apr 2005 03:59:30 AM |
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thomas p wrote:
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
What if they were to bale out?
I find your humor a bit seedy.
With proper care and attention, it'll grow on you.
--
Quoted in the New Scientist [1995]:
A Doctor at Yale has observed that all the fingers have names, but that only the big toe has a name. He thus proposes names for all 5 toes: porcellus fori, porcellus domi, porcellus carnivorus, porcellus non voratus, porcellus plorans domum.
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
03 Apr 2005 02:11:08 AM |
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"Dionisio" <moc.rr.thgisni@5ellimd.com> wrote in message
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thomas p wrote:
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
What if they were to bale out?
I find your humor a bit seedy.
With proper care and attention, it'll grow on you.
Not if we root it out early.
Susan
--
Quoted in the New Scientist [1995]:
A Doctor at Yale has observed that all the fingers have names, but that
only the big toe has a name. He thus proposes names for all 5 toes:
porcellus fori, porcellus domi, porcellus carnivorus, porcellus non
voratus, porcellus plorans domum.
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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03 Apr 2005 03:11:21 AM |
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Susan Cohen wrote:
"Dionisio" <moc.rr.thgisni@5ellimd.com> wrote:
With proper care and attention, it'll grow on you.
Not if we root it out early.
Oddly, roots tend to bury themselves, so that they might nurture the
[w]hole.
<ducks>
--
Quoted in the New Scientist [1995]:
A Doctor at Yale has observed that all the fingers have names, but that only the big toe has a name. He thus proposes names for all 5 toes: porcellus fori, porcellus domi, porcellus carnivorus, porcellus non voratus, porcellus plorans domum.
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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01 Apr 2005 04:35:11 AM |
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stoney wrote:
"Rick" <Npl1O_SalphaP_AgeekM@juno.com> wrote:
They might want to if they thought each other was good in the hay.
What if they were to bale out?
They'd no longer be inter_twined_.
<insert groans here>
--
Quoted in the New Scientist [1995]:
A Doctor at Yale has observed that all the fingers have names, but that only the big toe has a name. He thus proposes names for all 5 toes: porcellus fori, porcellus domi, porcellus carnivorus, porcellus non voratus, porcellus plorans domum.
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| User: "stoney" |
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02 Apr 2005 02:36:46 AM |
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On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 04:35:11 GMT, Dionisio
<moc.rr.thgisni@5ellimd.com> wrote:
stoney wrote:
"Rick" <Npl1O_SalphaP_AgeekM@juno.com> wrote:
They might want to if they thought each other was good in the hay.
What if they were to bale out?
They'd no longer be inter_twined_.
<insert groans here>
Frayed Knot....
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Paul Mitchum" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
31 Mar 2005 10:37:26 AM |
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Rick <Npl1O_SalphaP_AgeekM@juno.com> wrote:
Paul Mitchum wrote in message
<1gu5fvm.15v40941i4g2ckN%usenet@mile23.c0m>...
Elf M. Sternberg <elf@drizzle.com> wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
The advantage of gay partnerships is that there are no children at
home that need attending.
Assuming, of course, that neither man has children already.
And assuming, of course, that infertile heterosexual couples do.
Hehe.. Kind of makes me wonder whether a strawman can marry another
strawman.
They might want to if they thought each other was good in the hay.
:-)
--
"Eighty percent of Republicans are just Democrats who don't know what's
going on." -- Robert Kennedy, Jr.
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| User: "SMITH29" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
29 Mar 2005 07:31:09 AM |
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Paul Mitchum wrote:
Elf M. Sternberg <elf@drizzle.com> wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
The advantage of gay partnerships is that there are no children at home
that need attending.
Assuming, of course, that neither man has children already. And
assuming, of course, that infertile heterosexual couples do.
Hehe.. Kind of makes me wonder whether a strawman can marry another
strawman.
xxxx
If same sex marriage comes to be then why can't people marry
motor vehicles and get mechanical care coverage paid for by
the government.
Or, a man married to a woman should be able to marry his
Pontiac and another man and get healthcare for all and the
Pontiac doesn't need a yearly license because it's married.
The government has to provide shelter for the Pontiac too.
All married vehicles get a garage supplied by the government.
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| User: "Dennis Kemmerer" |
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29 Mar 2005 04:32:39 PM |
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"SMITH29" <smith29@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:C6mdnV1b55gqn9TfRVn-pw@comcast.com...
Paul Mitchum wrote:
Elf M. Sternberg <elf@drizzle.com> wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
The advantage of gay partnerships is that there are no children at home
that need attending.
Assuming, of course, that neither man has children already. And
assuming, of course, that infertile heterosexual couples do.
Hehe.. Kind of makes me wonder whether a strawman can marry another
strawman.
xxxx
If same sex marriage comes to be then why can't people marry
motor vehicles and get mechanical care coverage paid for by
the government.
Or, a man married to a woman should be able to marry his
Pontiac and another man and get healthcare for all and the
Pontiac doesn't need a yearly license because it's married.
The government has to provide shelter for the Pontiac too.
All married vehicles get a garage supplied by the government.
That's the 'Buick' argument.
The motor vehicle can't satisfy the informed consent requirement of the
contract.
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| User: "SMITH29" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
30 Mar 2005 09:29:56 AM |
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Dennis Kemmerer wrote:
"SMITH29" <smith29@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:C6mdnV1b55gqn9TfRVn-pw@comcast.com...
Paul Mitchum wrote:
Elf M. Sternberg <elf@drizzle.com> wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
The advantage of gay partnerships is that there are no children at home
that need attending.
Assuming, of course, that neither man has children already. And
assuming, of course, that infertile heterosexual couples do.
Hehe.. Kind of makes me wonder whether a strawman can marry another
strawman.
xxxx
If same sex marriage comes to be then why can't people marry
motor vehicles and get mechanical care coverage paid for by
the government.
Or, a man married to a woman should be able to marry his
Pontiac and another man and get healthcare for all and the
Pontiac doesn't need a yearly license because it's married.
The government has to provide shelter for the Pontiac too.
All married vehicles get a garage supplied by the government.
That's the 'Buick' argument.
The motor vehicle can't satisfy the informed consent requirement of the
contract.
xxxx
Bullfeathers!! My Caddy has OnStar:-) So there.
The29
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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30 Mar 2005 10:22:29 AM |
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SMITH29 wrote:
Dennis Kemmerer wrote:
"SMITH29" <smith29@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:C6mdnV1b55gqn9TfRVn-pw@comcast.com...
Paul Mitchum wrote:
Elf M. Sternberg <elf@drizzle.com> wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
The advantage of gay partnerships is that there are no children at
home
that need attending.
Assuming, of course, that neither man has children already. And
assuming, of course, that infertile heterosexual couples do.
Hehe.. Kind of makes me wonder whether a strawman can marry another
strawman.
xxxx
If same sex marriage comes to be then why can't people marry
motor vehicles and get mechanical care coverage paid for by
the government.
Or, a man married to a woman should be able to marry his
Pontiac and another man and get healthcare for all and the
Pontiac doesn't need a yearly license because it's married.
The government has to provide shelter for the Pontiac too.
All married vehicles get a garage supplied by the government.
That's the 'Buick' argument.
The motor vehicle can't satisfy the informed consent requirement of the
contract.
xxxx
Bullfeathers!! My Caddy has OnStar:-) So there.
So, your Caddy prays to the All-Knowing and All-Seeing Deity known as
OnStar?
Seriously, though. This analgoy is getting stupid.
(If you ARE being serious, you should know that OnStar is a gateway to a
live person. OnStar is a phone, not part of the Caddy. Or, do you
think the OnStar representative is sitting inside your dashboard?)
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| User: "Sanders Kaufman" |
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29 Mar 2005 02:44:42 PM |
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"SMITH29" <smith29@comcast.net> wrote in message
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If same sex marriage comes to be then why can't people marry motor
vehicles and get mechanical care coverage paid for by the government.
Because machines can't enter into a binding contract.
Or, a man married to a woman should be able to marry his Pontiac and
another man and get healthcare for all and the Pontiac doesn't need a
yearly license because it's married.
The government has to provide shelter for the Pontiac too.
All married vehicles get a garage supplied by the government.
As long as you consider gay people to be somehow inhuman, you will never
understand these very simple issues.
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| User: "Chad Gore" |
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30 Mar 2005 01:05:30 AM |
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 14:44:42 GMT, "Sanders Kaufman"
<usenet@kaufman.net> wrote:
"SMITH29" <smith29@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:C6mdnV1b55gqn9TfRVn-pw@comcast.com...
If same sex marriage comes to be then why can't people marry motor
vehicles and get mechanical care coverage paid for by the government.
Because machines can't enter into a binding contract.
Or, a man married to a woman should be able to marry his Pontiac and
another man and get healthcare for all and the Pontiac doesn't need a
yearly license because it's married.
The government has to provide shelter for the Pontiac too.
All married vehicles get a garage supplied by the government.
As long as you consider gay people to be somehow inhuman, you will never
understand these very simple issues.
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No one said anything about inhuman but you !! Simple issuse ????
AIDS is very complicated !! I'd rather huge a tail pipe !
AIDS is spreading among blacks at an alarming rate.
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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30 Mar 2005 01:43:46 AM |
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Chad Gore wrote:
I'd rather huge a tail pipe !
Size queen.
--
Quoted in the New Scientist [1995]:
A Doctor at Yale has observed that all the fingers have names, but that only the big toe has a name. He thus proposes names for all 5 toes: porcellus fori, porcellus domi, porcellus carnivorus, porcellus non voratus, porcellus plorans domum.
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| User: "SMITH29" |
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30 Mar 2005 09:18:43 AM |
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Sanders Kaufman wrote:
"SMITH29" <smith29@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:C6mdnV1b55gqn9TfRVn-pw@comcast.com...
If same sex marriage comes to be then why can't people marry motor
vehicles and get mechanical care coverage paid for by the government.
Because machines can't enter into a binding contract.
xxxx
And 2 guys can't get married.
Or, a man married to a woman should be able to marry his Pontiac and
another man and get healthcare for all and the Pontiac doesn't need a
yearly license because it's married.
The government has to provide shelter for the Pontiac too.
All married vehicles get a garage supplied by the government.
As long as you consider gay people to be somehow inhuman, you will never
understand these very simple issues.
xxxx
AIDS is simple?
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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30 Mar 2005 04:33:30 PM |
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 01:18:43 -0800, SMITH29 <smith29@comcast.net>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
Sanders Kaufman wrote:
"SMITH29" <smith29@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:C6mdnV1b55gqn9TfRVn-pw@comcast.com...
If same sex marriage comes to be then why can't people marry motor
vehicles and get mechanical care coverage paid for by the government.
Because machines can't enter into a binding contract.
xxxx
And 2 guys can't get married.
They can in Massachusetts. And in several countries outside the US;
countries with whoim we have treaties recognizing, among other things,
the validity of marriages performed under their laws.
And a California court just threw out the state's prohibition on gay
marriage. So soon the state with the largest population will have
legal gay marriage. New York will follow.
Change is coming, little one.
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Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
31 Mar 2005 03:53:13 AM |
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Douglas Berry wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 01:18:43 -0800, SMITH29 <smith29@comcast.net>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
Sanders Kaufman wrote:
"SMITH29" <smith29@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:C6mdnV1b55gqn9TfRVn-pw@comcast.com...
If same sex marriage comes to be then why can't people marry motor
vehicles and get mechanical care coverage paid for by the government.
Because machines can't enter into a binding contract.
xxxx
And 2 guys can't get married.
They can in Massachusetts. And in several countries outside the US;
countries with whoim we have treaties recognizing, among other things,
the validity of marriages performed under their laws.
And a California court just threw out the state's prohibition on gay
marriage. So soon the state with the largest population will have
legal gay marriage. New York will follow.
Change is coming, little one.
xxxx
Rave on rotting rump.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/03/28/BAGDLBVG0F1.DTL
The29
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
31 Mar 2005 04:15:51 PM |
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 19:53:13 -0800, SMITH29 <smith29@comcast.net>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
They can in Massachusetts. And in several countries outside the US;
countries with whoim we have treaties recognizing, among other things,
the validity of marriages performed under their laws.
And a California court just threw out the state's prohibition on gay
marriage. So soon the state with the largest population will have
legal gay marriage. New York will follow.
Change is coming, little one.
xxxx
Rave on rotting rump.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/03/28/BAGDLBVG0F1.DTL
The current partners law is flawed, badly, and is one of the reason
why were pushing for the full protections of marriage.
During my cancer treatment, my wife and I seriously discussed
divorcing so I could qualify for more federal and state benefits. It's
not just gays who face these decisions.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Jeff North" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
31 Mar 2005 02:33:20 PM |
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 19:53:13 -0800, in alt.politics.homosexuality
SMITH29 <smith29@comcast.net> wrote:
| Douglas Berry wrote:
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| > On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 01:18:43 -0800, SMITH29 <smith29@comcast.net>
| > drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
| > proclaimed the following
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| >>Sanders Kaufman wrote:
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| >>>"SMITH29" <smith29@comcast.net> wrote in message
| >>>news:C6mdnV1b55gqn9TfRVn-pw@comcast.com...
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| >>>>If same sex marriage comes to be then why can't people marry motor
| >>>>vehicles and get mechanical care coverage paid for by the government.
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| >>>Because machines can't enter into a binding contract.
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| >>xxxx
| >>And 2 guys can't get married.
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| > They can in Massachusetts. And in several countries outside the US;
| > countries with whoim we have treaties recognizing, among other things,
| > the validity of marriages performed under their laws.
| >
| > And a California court just threw out the state's prohibition on gay
| > marriage. So soon the state with the largest population will have
| > legal gay marriage. New York will follow.
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| > Change is coming, little one.
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| xxxx
| Rave on rotting rump.
| http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/03/28/BAGDLBVG0F1.DTL
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Under the new law, gay couples have the same state rights -- and
responsibilities -- as their married peers, ..... But gaps between
state and federal law have led to complications.
.....
No one knows whether assets and property that move between partners --
during their lives together or after a split -- will be subject to
federal gift, income or capital gains taxes down the road. If, for
example, one partner makes $100,000 and the other doesn't earn an
income, community property laws mean that the unemployed partner is
now entitled to $50,000 -- but it's not clear whether the federal
government will impose a gift tax on that money. Gay couples cannot
file joint tax returns.
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| User: "RainLover" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU sues for gays' benefits |
31 Mar 2005 04:40:40 PM |
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 16:33:30 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 01:18:43 -0800, SMITH29 <smith29@comcast.net>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
Sanders Kaufman wrote:
"SMITH29" <smith29@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:C6mdnV1b55gqn9TfRVn-pw@comcast.com...
If same sex marriage comes to be then why can't people marry motor
vehicles and get mechanical care coverage paid for by the government.
Because machines can't enter into a binding contract.
xxxx
And 2 guys can't get married.
They can in Massachusetts. And in several countries outside the US;
countries with whoim we have treaties recognizing, among other things,
the validity of marriages performed under their laws.
And a California court just threw out the state's prohibition on gay
marriage. So soon the state with the largest population will have
legal gay marriage. New York will follow.
Change is coming, little one.
Don't forget Washington State... its supreme court should be handing
down its decision withing a few weeks... and the case for "defense of
marriage" laws wasn't very strong...
Here in WA, people have to prove that a same-sex couple would HARM the
state....
James, Seattle
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