Religions > Atheism > ACLU: View homosexual film or school district will be taken to court!
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"RoB WadE" |
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28 Feb 2005 12:43:24 PM |
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ACLU: View homosexual film or school district will be taken to court! |
ACLU: View homosexual film or school district will be taken to court!
Richard Mullenax
The American Civil Liberties Union, or sarcastically known by me as the
"Atheist Control Limitation Union," is threatening to take Kentucky's
Boyd County School District to court if it doesn't find a way to force
all of its students to participate in "tolerance training."
Tolerance training is a great idea! Finally, perhaps religious
persecution could be avoided if the students understood that they
should respect everyone as equals. Maybe the training could prevent
some kids from pressuring other kids into having sex because some of
these kids would rather live a good and clean life. Maybe the training
could stop other kids from forcing others into peer pressure and
prevent others to indulge in drinking or drugs. After all, kids
shouldn't be doing drugs and no kid should be drinking until a legal
age. Tolerance training doesn't sound like just a good idea, it sounds
like a great idea.
Oh wait, the ACLU didn't mean that kind of "tolerance training."
After all, the ACLU wants kids to receive oral sex training and have
all the condoms and morning-after pills at every school's disposal.
Plus, you can't talk about religion in school (unless it's about Islam)
or else the ACLU believes it's a violation of "Separation of Church and
State." When the ACLU wanted tolerance, it meant tolerance towards
homosexuality.
District figures illustrates 105 of 730 middle school students opted
out of the training video and 145 of 971 high school students did, too.
On the day scheduled for training, 324 students didn't show up.
There is a reason that some of the Kentucky students did not show up
for the training course. The ACLU doesn't have the power to have
students tolerate homosexuality if the students don't approve of it.
Plus, the ACLU shouldn't force this subject on students unless the
school has parental consent to do so.
But the ACLU does not see it that way. The intolerant organization
along with the Gay-Straight Alliance believes it has a right to
force-feed homosexuality down the throats of the American people.
Perhaps there should be a separation of "Homosexuality and State" if
the ACLU and gay radical groups continue to impose their ideology.
James Esseks, litigation director for the ACLU's Lesbian and Gay Rights
Project says: "The schools have great latitude in what they want to
teach, including what's in training programs, and the training is now
part of the school curriculum." Esseks goes on to say, "Parents don't
get to say 'I don't want you to teach evolution or this, that, or
whatever else.' 'If parents don't like it they can homeschool, they can
go to a private school, they can go to a religious school.' "
But parents do have a right to speak out. The tolerance-training video
violates the right of conscience of parents and students who believe
such behavior immoral. Also, did Esseks forget that the Kentucky's Boyd
County School District is only showing these videos because the school
district is being forced by Esseks' organization?
The ACLU shows its true colors everyday by its never-ending liberal
bias. What right does it have to take Christmas out of schools when
former president Ulysses S. Grant made Christmas into a National
Holiday in 1865? What right does the ACLU have to attempt taking "Under
God" out of our pledge when the Deceleration of Independence says that
our Creator endows us? And most importantly, what right does the ACLU
have to take away our moral conscious when over half of the country
voted based on moaral decisions? The answer is simple: The ACLU has no
right, but its leaders think they have the right to tell us what we
should tolerate and not tolerate.
However, understand that "tolerance training" is not necessarily a bad
thing. But let's be fair and allow parents and students to make the
decision to attend such meetings. Tolerance is meant for all people on
all subjects. Sexual orientation, religion, race, and gender should be
tolerated together, and no subject within reason should be left behind.
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| User: "Cartlon Shew" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU: View homosexual film or school district will be taken to court! |
01 Mar 2005 12:10:30 PM |
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 19:45:41 +0000, Secular Fundamentalist
<moc.turtle@eltrut.com> wrote:
And most importantly, what right does the ACLU
have to take away our moral conscious when over half of the country
voted based on moaral decisions?
None, nor can it, but I question your assertion that "over half of the
country voted based on moaral [sic] decisions".
I certainly voted based on morals, but no I didn't vote for Bush. I'm
certain that there is a good portion of Bush voters who voted on
selfish rather than moral decisions as well.
The answer is simple: The ACLU has no
right, but its leaders think they have the right to tell us what we
should tolerate and not tolerate.
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| User: "Marvin" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU: View homosexual film or school district will be taken to court! |
01 Mar 2005 12:47:34 PM |
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"Cartlon Shew" <cashew@lapaz.com> wrote in message
news:60c921plp6r1elhdhtjbstnbepabcooovs@4ax.com...
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 19:45:41 +0000, Secular Fundamentalist
<moc.turtle@eltrut.com> wrote:
And most importantly, what right does the ACLU
have to take away our moral conscious when over half of
the country
voted based on moaral decisions?
None, nor can it, but I question your assertion that "over
half of the
country voted based on moaral [sic] decisions".
I certainly voted based on morals, but no I didn't vote for
Bush. I'm
certain that there is a good portion of Bush voters who
voted on
selfish rather than moral decisions as well.
Almost certainly more than the "moral" ones, to judge from
what I can see, at least.
The answer is simple: The ACLU has no
right, but its leaders think they have the right to tell
us what we
should tolerate and not tolerate.
I haven't cared enough to check Google to learn what offense
the ACLU is imagined to have committed, but I can't fathom
what grounds a person could find for the claim " The ACLU has
no right." I could as easily ask what right he or she has to
disagree with the ACLU. Isn't this person trying to tell the
rest of us how we should think?
Many of its knee-jerk critics' knowledge of the ACLU, though,
is dependent on distorted information, and I feel sure this
writer falls into that category. They've defended people I
wish would go away too, but in every case, there is a
principle at stake that can as easily affect much more than
the case in focus.
--
Marvin
To reply, burn off fog.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU: View homosexual film or school district will be taken to court! |
03 Mar 2005 10:45:30 AM |
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 11:10:30 -0700, Cartlon Shew <cashew@lapaz.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 19:45:41 +0000, Secular Fundamentalist
<moc.turtle@eltrut.com> wrote:
And most importantly, what right does the ACLU
have to take away our moral conscious when over half of the country
voted based on moaral decisions?
None, nor can it, but I question your assertion that "over half of the
country voted based on moaral [sic] decisions".
I certainly voted based on morals, but no I didn't vote for Bush. I'm
certain that there is a good portion of Bush voters who voted on
selfish rather than moral decisions as well.
The answer is simple: The ACLU has no
right, but its leaders think they have the right to tell us what we
should tolerate and not tolerate.
Shrub and morality have never been introduced.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "towelie" |
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| Title: Re: View homosexual film or school district will be taken to court! |
28 Feb 2005 12:57:27 PM |
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TV's RoB WadE wrote:
The ACLU shows its true colors everyday by its never-ending liberal
bias. What right does it have to take Christmas out of schools when
former president Ulysses S. Grant made Christmas into a National
Holiday in 1865? What right does the ACLU have to attempt taking "Under
God" out of our pledge when the Deceleration of Independence says that
our Creator endows us? And most importantly, what right does the ACLU
have to take away our moral conscious when over half of the country
voted based on moaral decisions? The answer is simple: The ACLU has no
right, but its leaders think they have the right to tell us what we
should tolerate and not tolerate.
US Grant wasn't president in 1865. Abraham Lincoln and later Andrew Johnson
were.
--
Jesus won't you fucking whistle something but the past and done? - Maynard
James Keenan
I'd rather die than give you control. - Trent Reznor
aa #2133
ap #19
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| User: "Rally" |
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| Title: Re: View homosexual film or school district will be taken to court! |
28 Feb 2005 01:56:36 PM |
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"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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TV's RoB WadE wrote:
The ACLU shows its true colors everyday by its never-ending liberal
bias. What right does it have to take Christmas out of schools when
former president Ulysses S. Grant made Christmas into a National
Holiday in 1865? What right does the ACLU have to attempt taking
"Under
God" out of our pledge when the Deceleration of Independence says
that
our Creator endows us? And most importantly, what right does the ACLU
have to take away our moral conscious when over half of the country
voted based on moaral decisions? The answer is simple: The ACLU has
no
right, but its leaders think they have the right to tell us what we
should tolerate and not tolerate.
US Grant wasn't president in 1865. Abraham Lincoln and later Andrew
Johnson
were.
Facts are an inconvenience. Why should they pay attention to
anything as insignificant as a fact?
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| User: "Eric Bohlman" |
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| Title: Re: View homosexual film or school district will be taken to court! |
28 Feb 2005 04:01:43 PM |
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"Rally" <Rally_Round@mail.removethis.newsfeeds.com> wrote in news:4223781f
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"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:38h7soF5ogrbkU1@individual.net...
US Grant wasn't president in 1865. Abraham Lincoln and later Andrew
Johnson
were.
Facts are an inconvenience. Why should they pay attention to
anything as insignificant as a fact?
A few years back, someone got a hold of a promotional flyer for an "ex-
gay" conference and noticed that several events were scheduled for February
30 and February 31.
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