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"J Young" |
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29 Dec 2005 11:41:46 PM |
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ACLU Wants Bush Impeached |
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/rightangle.php
What further proof does one need to realize that the ACLU is
trying to undermine the United States?
ACLU Wants Bush Impeached
By: Robert B. Bluey
The ACLU is -- not very subtly -- promoting impeachment of
President Bush in an expensive, full-page ad it has placed in today's New
York Times (page A19) that says President Bush "breaks the law" just like
Richard Nixon did in Watergate.
In a clear prelude to impeachment, the ad calls for a special
counsel to be appointed "to determine whether oaths of office were broken
and federal laws violated through the Bush NSA spying program."
The ACLU, you'll remember, is leading the campaign against
renewal of the Patriot Act.
Posted 12/29/05 2:59 PM
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30 Dec 2005 12:35:45 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in
news:VZydnQsQV9YZVSnenZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@giganews.com:
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/rightangle.php
What further proof does one need to realize that the ACLU is
trying to undermine the United States?
So, expecting the president to follow the laws of the United States is
trying to undermine the United States? As stupid as you are, how do you
manage to eat the correct part of a banana?
ACLU Wants Bush Impeached
I do too. Perhaps that's because I'm a citizen of the United States who
has read the Constitution and a bit of history.
By: Robert B. Bluey
The ACLU is -- not very subtly -- promoting impeachment of
President Bush in an expensive, full-page ad it has placed in today's
New York Times (page A19) that says President Bush "breaks the law"
just like Richard Nixon did in Watergate.
Good for them. I'll make sure I keep my membership current.
In a clear prelude to impeachment, the ad calls for a special
counsel to be appointed "to determine whether oaths of office were
broken and federal laws violated through the Bush NSA spying program."
Sounds good. Then we'll know the extent of the lying *****'s trechery.
The ACLU, you'll remember, is leading the campaign against
renewal of the Patriot Act.
Another reason to keep my membership current.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
It is only undemonstrable assertions that require the suspension of
reason, and weak ideas that require faith.
-Dan Barker
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| User: "Dale" |
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30 Dec 2005 02:02:55 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:VZydnQsQV9YZVSnenZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@giganews.com...
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/rightangle.php
What further proof does one need to realize that the ACLU is
trying to undermine the United States?
What further proof do YOU need to realize that George W. Bush is trying to
undermine the United States?
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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30 Dec 2005 08:20:58 AM |
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Bush *did* break the law when he went spying on the populace without due
process. The truth hurts, doesn't it?
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Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking,
which leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy."
- Robert Anton Wilson
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| User: "tulle" |
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| Title: Tulle Wants Bush Impeached |
30 Dec 2005 01:46:05 PM |
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I want him impeached too.
IMPEACH BUSH
tulle
J Young wrote:
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/rightangle.php
What further proof does one need to realize that the ACLU is
trying to undermine the United States?
ACLU Wants Bush Impeached
By: Robert B. Bluey
The ACLU is -- not very subtly -- promoting impeachment of
President Bush in an expensive, full-page ad it has placed in today's New
York Times (page A19) that says President Bush "breaks the law" just like
Richard Nixon did in Watergate.
In a clear prelude to impeachment, the ad calls for a special
counsel to be appointed "to determine whether oaths of office were broken
and federal laws violated through the Bush NSA spying program."
The ACLU, you'll remember, is leading the campaign against
renewal of the Patriot Act.
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| User: "Bonnie Bitch" |
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| Title: Re: Bonnie ***** Wants Chocolate for New Year's (was: re:Tulle Wants Bush Impeached) |
30 Dec 2005 01:47:07 PM |
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On 30 Dec 2005 11:46:05 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "tulle"
<tulle040657@yahoo.com>
Hey, it was worth a shot, right? <g>
I want him impeached too.
IMPEACH BUSH
tulle
J Young wrote:
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/rightangle.php
What further proof does one need to realize that the ACLU is
trying to undermine the United States?
ACLU Wants Bush Impeached
By: Robert B. Bluey
The ACLU is -- not very subtly -- promoting impeachment of
President Bush in an expensive, full-page ad it has placed in today's New
York Times (page A19) that says President Bush "breaks the law" just like
Richard Nixon did in Watergate.
In a clear prelude to impeachment, the ad calls for a special
counsel to be appointed "to determine whether oaths of office were broken
and federal laws violated through the Bush NSA spying program."
The ACLU, you'll remember, is leading the campaign against
renewal of the Patriot Act.
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| User: "gingerbeer25" |
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31 Dec 2005 11:05:30 AM |
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tulle wrote:
I want him impeached too.
IMPEACH BUSH
tulle
J Young wrote:
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/rightangle.php
What further proof does one need to realize that the ACLU is
trying to undermine the United States?
ACLU Wants Bush Impeached
By: Robert B. Bluey
The ACLU is -- not very subtly -- promoting impeachment of
President Bush in an expensive, full-page ad it has placed in today's New
York Times (page A19) that says President Bush "breaks the law" just like
Richard Nixon did in Watergate.
In a clear prelude to impeachment, the ad calls for a special
counsel to be appointed "to determine whether oaths of office were broken
and federal laws violated through the Bush NSA spying program."
The ACLU, you'll remember, is leading the campaign against
renewal of the Patriot Act.
Posted 12/29/05 2:59 PM
Will the world ever know the extent of that administrations crimes???
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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30 Dec 2005 09:27:48 AM |
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In <VZydnQsQV9YZVSnenZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@giganews.com>, "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
What further proof does one need to realize that the ACLU is
trying to undermine the United States?
You mean breaking the law with impunity is not undermining the US? Gee, I
dunno. I always kinda thought the rule of law applied to everybody.
So, when are you people planning on installing Bush as President for Life?
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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So much for that "storm of the century" excuse
http://makeashorterlink.com/?A3992495C
NO held hostage by oil corporations,
ANWR demanded as ransom
http://makeashorterlink.com/?J5C92195C
White House balks at spending on US citizens,
needs more billions for Iraq!
http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D93595C
(Tell me again how much we spent bailing out the S&Ls?)
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "Syd M." |
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30 Dec 2005 12:25:16 PM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In <VZydnQsQV9YZVSnenZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@giganews.com>, "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
What further proof does one need to realize that the ACLU is
trying to undermine the United States?
You mean breaking the law with impunity is not undermining the US? Gee, I
dunno. I always kinda thought the rule of law applied to everybody.
So, when are you people planning on installing Bush as President for Life?
Don't rush 'em. Their working onit.
PDW
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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30 Dec 2005 06:08:15 PM |
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In <1135967116.261175.12220@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "Syd M."
<pdwright42@yahoo.com> wrote:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In <VZydnQsQV9YZVSnenZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@giganews.com>, "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
What further proof does one need to realize that the ACLU
is
trying to undermine the United States?
You mean breaking the law with impunity is not undermining the US? Gee,
I dunno. I always kinda thought the rule of law applied to everybody.
So, when are you people planning on installing Bush as President for
Life?
Don't rush 'em. Their working onit.
They better hurry up. If the Republicans lose control of Congress in '06,
the fur is gonna fly...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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So much for that "storm of the century" excuse
http://makeashorterlink.com/?A3992495C
NO held hostage by oil corporations,
ANWR demanded as ransom
http://makeashorterlink.com/?J5C92195C
White House balks at spending on US citizens,
needs more billions for Iraq!
http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D93595C
(Tell me again how much we spent bailing out the S&Ls?)
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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29 Dec 2005 11:52:36 PM |
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In News VZydnQsQV9YZVSnenZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@giganews.com,, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/rightangle.php
What further proof does one need to realize that the ACLU
is trying to undermine the United States?
Bush should be impeached. Here's why. The following is something my
cousin recently wrote to a local newspaper. I agree with it.
I consider myself a conservative, but Bush has gone too far. I voted for
him in 2000, I went for the war in Afghanistan as the Taliban was harboring
a very dangerous criminal who was responsible for 3,000 deaths on U.S. soil.
I felt that he, and anyone that harbored him, was fair game, I think most
Americans felt the same way. (Never mind that we haven't actually caught the
guy, and by appearances we aren't looking very hard for him now either.), I
even skeptically went for the war in Iraq because Saddam was a *****, and
I, like many Americans thought that the WMD's were a clear and immediate
threat, (Never mind that we the only WMD that we found was one decayed
chemical shell that was a leftover from the Iran/Iraq war.), I voted for him
again in 2004, not so much because I still thought that he was a good man,
but because I thought he was marginally better than Kerry. I've stuck with
him through the over 2,100 deaths of U.S. Military personnel, and an unknown
number of Iraqi citizens, not counting the insurgents, but this is it, I'm
done with him. As much of a clown as I thought Kerry was, I still made a
bad decision.
George Bush has crossed a line that we haven't seen crossed since the days
of the Kennedy/LBJ administrations who authorized the FBI to conduct
unwarranted wiretaps, in a covert operation called "Window W" to uncover
"communist" and other "fringe group" activities in the United States, a
paranoia that was left over from the McCarthy years. J. Edgar Hoover was
more than willing to comply.
Not even Richard Nixon went this far, so far as anyone knows, in his
dealings. Nixon developed enemy lists, and externally monitored political
rivals and potential political rivals, but never ordered electronic
surveillance without judicial approval. (Again, not to anyone's knowledge)
Bush has recently been the "victim" of an internal leak, a leak that has
made him extremely angry. He has accused the "leaker" of being
anti-American who has seriously jeopardized national security.
I call that "leaker" a national hero.
Bush has openly admitted to conducting wire taps without the approval of the
court in which our democratically elected legislature created for just that
purpose. To examine the evidence and determine whether there is probable
cause to issue a wiretap order. Our president decided that the legislature
was unimportant, he decided that he didn't need the approval of the courts,
and by extension, decided that he didn't need the will of "The People".
In other words, he took our beloved Constitution, and wiped his ***** with it.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not against wiretapping, per se, I believe that are
a very valuable investigative tool, but the idea that one man should be able
to order a wiretap without authorization from the judiciary is anathema to
the way our government is supposed to operate. Further than that, our duly
elected legislature specifically, and without qualification made such
operations illegal, and set up a special court to deal with federal
wiretapping. The FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) of 1979
specifically says that any federal wiretap must be approved by the FISA
Court.
Bush has countered by claiming that the Homeland Security Act granted him
the power to conduct unwarranted wiretaps. But does it? I have personally
read the act, and no such verbage exists. However, lets look at a comment
from General Counsel Joe Whitley to the National College of District
Attorneys (Mr. Whitley was appointed as the first General Counsel to the
department by President Bush himself.)
_______________________
"The Patriot Act of 2002 allows federal agents to follow sophisticated
terrorists trained to evade detection. For years, law enforcement has been
able to use "roving wiretaps" to investigate ordinary crimes, including drug
offenses and racketeering. A roving wiretap can be authorized by a Federal
judge to apply to a particular suspect, rather than a particular phone or
communications device. Because international terrorists are sophisticated
and trained to thwart surveillance by rapidly changing locations and
communication devices such as cell phones, the Act authorized agents to seek
court permission to use the same techniques in national security
investigations to track terrorists."
_______________________
What does the Whitehouse have to say?
White House fact sheet - June 9, 2005:
The Patriot Act extended the use of roving wiretaps, which were already
permitted against drug kingpins and mob bosses, to international terrorism
investigations. They must be approved by a judge. Without roving wiretaps,
terrorists could elude law enforcement by simply purchasing a new cell
phone.
_______________________
There certainly doesn't seem to be much ambiquity there. But what does
Bush have to say about it?
Quotes from President Bush:
President Bush -- April 19, 2004:
For years, law enforcement used so-called roving wire taps to investigate
organized crime. You see, what that meant is if you got a wire tap by court
order -- and, by the way, everything you hear about requires court order,
requires there to be permission from a FISA court, for example.
President Bush -- April 20, 2004:
Secondly, there are such things as roving wiretaps. Now, by the way, any
time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it
requires -- a wiretap requires a court order. Nothing has changed, by the
way. When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about
getting a court order before we do so. It's important for our fellow
citizens to understand, when you think Patriot Act, constitutional
guarantees are in place when it comes to doing what is necessary to protect
our homeland, because we value the Constitution.
President Bush -- June 9, 2005:
One tool that has been especially important to law enforcement is called a
roving wiretap. Roving wiretaps allow investigators to follow suspects who
frequently change their means of communications. These wiretaps must be
approved by a judge, and they have been used for years to catch drug dealers
and other criminals. Yet, before the Patriot Act, agents investigating
terrorists had to get a separate authorization for each phone they wanted to
tap. That means terrorists could elude law enforcement by simply purchasing
a new cell phone. The Patriot Act fixed the problem by allowing terrorism
investigators to use the same wiretaps that were already being using against
drug kingpins and mob bosses.
President Bush -- July 20, 2005:
The Patriot Act helps us defeat our enemies while safeguarding civil
liberties for all Americans. The judicial branch has a strong oversight role
in the application of the Patriot Act. Law enforcement officers need a
federal judge's permission to wiretap a foreign terrorist's phone, or to
track his calls, or to search his property. Officers must meet strict
standards to use any of the tools we're talking about. And they are fully
consistent with the Constitution of the United States.
President Bush -- December 10, 2005:
The Patriot Act is helping America defeat our enemies while safeguarding
civil liberties for all our people. The judicial branch has a strong
oversight role in the application of the Patriot Act. Under the act, law
enforcement officers need a federal judge's permission to wiretap a foreign
terrorist's phone or search his property. Congress also oversees our use of
the Patriot Act. Attorney General Gonzales delivers regular reports on the
Patriot Act to the House and the Senate.
______________________
More from trhe White House.
White House fact sheet -- July 20, 2005:
The judicial branch has a strong oversight role in the application of the
Patriot Act. Law enforcement officers must seek a federal judge's permission
to wiretap a foreign terrorist's phone, track his calls, or search his
property. These strict standards are fully consistent with the Constitution.
Congress also oversees the application of the Patriot Act, and in more than
three years there has not been a single verified abuse.
End of quotes.
Well, Bush seems very clear on the matter, until recently. He seemed fully
knowledgeable about the fact that such wiretaps required the authority of
the FISA Court that was created by our duly elected legislature.
If it sounds like I'm angry, it's because I am. I cannot believe that
anyone who could call themselves conservative could act in this manner. No
true conservative would. President George Bush has flaunted our laws, has
operated outside of constitutional strictures, and has basically annointed
himself as King of the United States. I believe that he has committed an
impeachable offense, and he should be treated accordingly.
Thank you for your time.
[end of article]
If the ACLU is seeking Bush's impeachment, then more power to them!
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Bill Baker" |
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30 Dec 2005 07:31:08 AM |
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 05:52:36 +0000, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL10@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:<EW3tf.186$%W1.103@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
In News VZydnQsQV9YZVSnenZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@giganews.com,, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/rightangle.php
What further proof does one need to realize that the ACLU
is trying to undermine the United States?
Bush should be impeached. Here's why. The following is something my
cousin recently wrote to a local newspaper. I agree with it.
I consider myself a conservative, but Bush has gone too far. I voted for
him in 2000, I went for the war in Afghanistan as the Taliban was harboring
a very dangerous criminal who was responsible for 3,000 deaths on U.S. soil.
I felt that he, and anyone that harbored him, was fair game, I think most
Americans felt the same way. (Never mind that we haven't actually caught the
guy, and by appearances we aren't looking very hard for him now either.), I
even skeptically went for the war in Iraq because Saddam was a *****, and
I, like many Americans thought that the WMD's were a clear and immediate
threat, (Never mind that we the only WMD that we found was one decayed
chemical shell that was a leftover from the Iran/Iraq war.), I voted for him
again in 2004, not so much because I still thought that he was a good man,
but because I thought he was marginally better than Kerry. I've stuck with
him through the over 2,100 deaths of U.S. Military personnel, and an unknown
number of Iraqi citizens, not counting the insurgents, but this is it, I'm
done with him. As much of a clown as I thought Kerry was, I still made a
bad decision.
George Bush has crossed a line that we haven't seen crossed since the days
of the Kennedy/LBJ administrations who authorized the FBI to conduct
unwarranted wiretaps, in a covert operation called "Window W" to uncover
"communist" and other "fringe group" activities in the United States, a
paranoia that was left over from the McCarthy years. J. Edgar Hoover was
more than willing to comply.
Not even Richard Nixon went this far, so far as anyone knows, in his
dealings. Nixon developed enemy lists, and externally monitored political
rivals and potential political rivals, but never ordered electronic
surveillance without judicial approval. (Again, not to anyone's knowledge)
Bush has recently been the "victim" of an internal leak, a leak that has
made him extremely angry. He has accused the "leaker" of being
anti-American who has seriously jeopardized national security.
I call that "leaker" a national hero.
Bush has openly admitted to conducting wire taps without the approval of the
court in which our democratically elected legislature created for just that
purpose. To examine the evidence and determine whether there is probable
cause to issue a wiretap order. Our president decided that the legislature
was unimportant, he decided that he didn't need the approval of the courts,
and by extension, decided that he didn't need the will of "The People".
In other words, he took our beloved Constitution, and wiped his ***** with it.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not against wiretapping, per se, I believe that are
a very valuable investigative tool, but the idea that one man should be able
to order a wiretap without authorization from the judiciary is anathema to
the way our government is supposed to operate. Further than that, our duly
elected legislature specifically, and without qualification made such
operations illegal, and set up a special court to deal with federal
wiretapping. The FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) of 1979
specifically says that any federal wiretap must be approved by the FISA
Court.
Bush has countered by claiming that the Homeland Security Act granted him
the power to conduct unwarranted wiretaps. But does it? I have personally
read the act, and no such verbage exists. However, lets look at a comment
from General Counsel Joe Whitley to the National College of District
Attorneys (Mr. Whitley was appointed as the first General Counsel to the
department by President Bush himself.)
_______________________
"The Patriot Act of 2002 allows federal agents to follow sophisticated
terrorists trained to evade detection. For years, law enforcement has been
able to use "roving wiretaps" to investigate ordinary crimes, including drug
offenses and racketeering. A roving wiretap can be authorized by a Federal
judge to apply to a particular suspect, rather than a particular phone or
communications device. Because international terrorists are sophisticated
and trained to thwart surveillance by rapidly changing locations and
communication devices such as cell phones, the Act authorized agents to seek
court permission to use the same techniques in national security
investigations to track terrorists."
_______________________
What does the Whitehouse have to say?
White House fact sheet - June 9, 2005:
The Patriot Act extended the use of roving wiretaps, which were already
permitted against drug kingpins and mob bosses, to international terrorism
investigations. They must be approved by a judge. Without roving wiretaps,
terrorists could elude law enforcement by simply purchasing a new cell
phone.
_______________________
There certainly doesn't seem to be much ambiquity there. But what does
Bush have to say about it?
Quotes from President Bush:
President Bush -- April 19, 2004:
For years, law enforcement used so-called roving wire taps to investigate
organized crime. You see, what that meant is if you got a wire tap by court
order -- and, by the way, everything you hear about requires court order,
requires there to be permission from a FISA court, for example.
President Bush -- April 20, 2004:
Secondly, there are such things as roving wiretaps. Now, by the way, any
time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it
requires -- a wiretap requires a court order. Nothing has changed, by the
way. When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about
getting a court order before we do so. It's important for our fellow
citizens to understand, when you think Patriot Act, constitutional
guarantees are in place when it comes to doing what is necessary to protect
our homeland, because we value the Constitution.
President Bush -- June 9, 2005:
One tool that has been especially important to law enforcement is called a
roving wiretap. Roving wiretaps allow investigators to follow suspects who
frequently change their means of communications. These wiretaps must be
approved by a judge, and they have been used for years to catch drug dealers
and other criminals. Yet, before the Patriot Act, agents investigating
terrorists had to get a separate authorization for each phone they wanted to
tap. That means terrorists could elude law enforcement by simply purchasing
a new cell phone. The Patriot Act fixed the problem by allowing terrorism
investigators to use the same wiretaps that were already being using against
drug kingpins and mob bosses.
President Bush -- July 20, 2005:
The Patriot Act helps us defeat our enemies while safeguarding civil
liberties for all Americans. The judicial branch has a strong oversight role
in the application of the Patriot Act. Law enforcement officers need a
federal judge's permission to wiretap a foreign terrorist's phone, or to
track his calls, or to search his property. Officers must meet strict
standards to use any of the tools we're talking about. And they are fully
consistent with the Constitution of the United States.
President Bush -- December 10, 2005:
The Patriot Act is helping America defeat our enemies while safeguarding
civil liberties for all our people. The judicial branch has a strong
oversight role in the application of the Patriot Act. Under the act, law
enforcement officers need a federal judge's permission to wiretap a foreign
terrorist's phone or search his property. Congress also oversees our use of
the Patriot Act. Attorney General Gonzales delivers regular reports on the
Patriot Act to the House and the Senate.
______________________
More from trhe White House.
White House fact sheet -- July 20, 2005:
The judicial branch has a strong oversight role in the application of the
Patriot Act. Law enforcement officers must seek a federal judge's permission
to wiretap a foreign terrorist's phone, track his calls, or search his
property. These strict standards are fully consistent with the Constitution.
Congress also oversees the application of the Patriot Act, and in more than
three years there has not been a single verified abuse.
End of quotes.
Well, Bush seems very clear on the matter, until recently. He seemed fully
knowledgeable about the fact that such wiretaps required the authority of
the FISA Court that was created by our duly elected legislature.
If it sounds like I'm angry, it's because I am. I cannot believe that
anyone who could call themselves conservative could act in this manner. No
true conservative would. President George Bush has flaunted our laws, has
operated outside of constitutional strictures, and has basically annointed
himself as King of the United States. I believe that he has committed an
impeachable offense, and he should be treated accordingly.
Thank you for your time.
[end of article]
If the ACLU is seeking Bush's impeachment, then more power to them!
Excellent letter! Your cousin sure knows what he's talking about. Any
patriotic American should fully support the ACLU's efforts to get Bush
impeached. Instead of Bush, we should have been listening to Howard Dean,
who seems to have been on to Bush from the very beginning.
--
Lurlean Lie #6:
I am just posting stuff he claimed himself.
news:7908c278.0310191750.679ca7da@posting.google.com
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| Title: Re: ACLU Wants Bush Impeached |
30 Dec 2005 11:29:32 AM |
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In News pan.2005.12.30.13.31.02.563650@postini.spamcon.org,, Bill Baker at
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org, typed this:
On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 05:52:36 +0000, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL10@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:<EW3tf.186$%W1.103@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
In News VZydnQsQV9YZVSnenZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@giganews.com,, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/rightangle.php
What further proof does one need to realize that the ACLU
is trying to undermine the United States?
Bush should be impeached. Here's why. The following is something
my cousin recently wrote to a local newspaper. I agree with it.
I consider myself a conservative, but Bush has gone too far. I
voted for him in 2000, I went for the war in Afghanistan as the
Taliban was harboring a very dangerous criminal who was responsible
for 3,000 deaths on U.S. soil. I felt that he, and anyone that
harbored him, was fair game, I think most Americans felt the same
way. (Never mind that we haven't actually caught the guy, and by
appearances we aren't looking very hard for him now either.), I
even skeptically went for the war in Iraq because Saddam was a
*****, and I, like many Americans thought that the WMD's were a
clear and immediate threat, (Never mind that we the only WMD that we
found was one decayed chemical shell that was a leftover from the
Iran/Iraq war.), I voted for him again in 2004, not so much because
I still thought that he was a good man, but because I thought he was
marginally better than Kerry. I've stuck with him through the over
2,100 deaths of U.S. Military personnel, and an unknown number of
Iraqi citizens, not counting the insurgents, but this is it, I'm
done with him. As much of a clown as I thought Kerry was, I still
made a bad decision.
George Bush has crossed a line that we haven't seen crossed since
the days of the Kennedy/LBJ administrations who authorized the FBI
to conduct unwarranted wiretaps, in a covert operation called
"Window W" to uncover "communist" and other "fringe group"
activities in the United States, a paranoia that was left over from
the McCarthy years. J. Edgar Hoover was more than willing to comply.
Not even Richard Nixon went this far, so far as anyone knows, in his
dealings. Nixon developed enemy lists, and externally monitored
political rivals and potential political rivals, but never ordered
electronic surveillance without judicial approval. (Again, not to
anyone's knowledge)
Bush has recently been the "victim" of an internal leak, a leak that
has made him extremely angry. He has accused the "leaker" of being
anti-American who has seriously jeopardized national security.
I call that "leaker" a national hero.
Bush has openly admitted to conducting wire taps without the
approval of the court in which our democratically elected
legislature created for just that purpose. To examine the evidence
and determine whether there is probable cause to issue a wiretap
order. Our president decided that the legislature was unimportant,
he decided that he didn't need the approval of the courts, and by
extension, decided that he didn't need the will of "The People".
In other words, he took our beloved Constitution, and wiped his *****
with it.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not against wiretapping, per se, I believe
that are a very valuable investigative tool, but the idea that one
man should be able to order a wiretap without authorization from the
judiciary is anathema to the way our government is supposed to
operate. Further than that, our duly elected legislature
specifically, and without qualification made such operations
illegal, and set up a special court to deal with federal
wiretapping. The FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) of
1979 specifically says that any federal wiretap must be approved by
the FISA Court.
Bush has countered by claiming that the Homeland Security Act
granted him the power to conduct unwarranted wiretaps. But does it?
I have personally read the act, and no such verbage exists.
However, lets look at a comment from General Counsel Joe Whitley to
the National College of District Attorneys (Mr. Whitley was
appointed as the first General Counsel to the department by
President Bush himself.)
_______________________
"The Patriot Act of 2002 allows federal agents to follow
sophisticated terrorists trained to evade detection. For years, law
enforcement has been able to use "roving wiretaps" to investigate
ordinary crimes, including drug offenses and racketeering. A roving
wiretap can be authorized by a Federal judge to apply to a
particular suspect, rather than a particular phone or communications
device. Because international terrorists are sophisticated and
trained to thwart surveillance by rapidly changing locations and
communication devices such as cell phones, the Act authorized agents
to seek court permission to use the same techniques in national
security investigations to track terrorists." _______________________
What does the Whitehouse have to say?
White House fact sheet - June 9, 2005:
The Patriot Act extended the use of roving wiretaps, which were
already permitted against drug kingpins and mob bosses, to
international terrorism investigations. They must be approved by a
judge. Without roving wiretaps, terrorists could elude law
enforcement by simply purchasing a new cell phone.
_______________________
There certainly doesn't seem to be much ambiquity there. But
what does Bush have to say about it?
Quotes from President Bush:
President Bush -- April 19, 2004:
For years, law enforcement used so-called roving wire taps to
investigate organized crime. You see, what that meant is if you got
a wire tap by court order -- and, by the way, everything you hear
about requires court order, requires there to be permission from a
FISA court, for example.
President Bush -- April 20, 2004:
Secondly, there are such things as roving wiretaps. Now, by the way,
any time you hear the United States government talking about
wiretap, it requires -- a wiretap requires a court order. Nothing
has changed, by the way. When we're talking about chasing down
terrorists, we're talking about getting a court order before we do
so. It's important for our fellow citizens to understand, when you
think Patriot Act, constitutional guarantees are in place when it
comes to doing what is necessary to protect our homeland, because we
value the Constitution.
President Bush -- June 9, 2005:
One tool that has been especially important to law enforcement is
called a roving wiretap. Roving wiretaps allow investigators to
follow suspects who frequently change their means of communications.
These wiretaps must be approved by a judge, and they have been used
for years to catch drug dealers and other criminals. Yet, before the
Patriot Act, agents investigating terrorists had to get a separate
authorization for each phone they wanted to tap. That means
terrorists could elude law enforcement by simply purchasing a new
cell phone. The Patriot Act fixed the problem by allowing terrorism
investigators to use the same wiretaps that were already being using
against drug kingpins and mob bosses.
President Bush -- July 20, 2005:
The Patriot Act helps us defeat our enemies while safeguarding civil
liberties for all Americans. The judicial branch has a strong
oversight role in the application of the Patriot Act. Law
enforcement officers need a federal judge's permission to wiretap a
foreign terrorist's phone, or to track his calls, or to search his
property. Officers must meet strict standards to use any of the
tools we're talking about. And they are fully consistent with the
Constitution of the United States.
President Bush -- December 10, 2005:
The Patriot Act is helping America defeat our enemies while
safeguarding civil liberties for all our people. The judicial branch
has a strong oversight role in the application of the Patriot Act.
Under the act, law enforcement officers need a federal judge's
permission to wiretap a foreign terrorist's phone or search his
property. Congress also oversees our use of the Patriot Act.
Attorney General Gonzales delivers regular reports on the Patriot
Act to the House and the Senate.
______________________
More from trhe White House.
White House fact sheet -- July 20, 2005:
The judicial branch has a strong oversight role in the application
of the Patriot Act. Law enforcement officers must seek a federal
judge's permission to wiretap a foreign terrorist's phone, track his
calls, or search his property. These strict standards are fully
consistent with the Constitution. Congress also oversees the
application of the Patriot Act, and in more than three years there
has not been a single verified abuse.
End of quotes.
Well, Bush seems very clear on the matter, until recently. He
seemed fully knowledgeable about the fact that such wiretaps
required the authority of the FISA Court that was created by our
duly elected legislature.
If it sounds like I'm angry, it's because I am. I cannot believe
that anyone who could call themselves conservative could act in this
manner. No true conservative would. President George Bush has
flaunted our laws, has operated outside of constitutional
strictures, and has basically annointed himself as King of the
United States. I believe that he has committed an impeachable
offense, and he should be treated accordingly.
Thank you for your time.
[end of article]
If the ACLU is seeking Bush's impeachment, then more power to them!
Excellent letter! Your cousin sure knows what he's talking about.
Any patriotic American should fully support the ACLU's efforts to get
Bush impeached. Instead of Bush, we should have been listening to
Howard Dean, who seems to have been on to Bush from the very
beginning.
Notice how JYoung got suddenly quiet on this topic. LOL!
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Bill Baker" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU Wants Bush Impeached |
30 Dec 2005 02:12:45 PM |
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 17:29:32 +0000, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL10@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:<08etf.316$%W1.257@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
Notice how JYoung got suddenly quiet on this topic. LOL!
Yep. That happens when he gets embarrassed by his own stupidity. :-)
--
Lurlean Lie #2:
you're evil and go to orgy's [sic] all the time.
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| User: "LC" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU Wants Bush Impeached |
30 Dec 2005 02:53:08 PM |
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"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.12.30.20.12.42.446513@postini.spamcon.org...
On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 17:29:32 +0000, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL10@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:<08etf.316$%W1.257@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
Notice how JYoung got suddenly quiet on this topic. LOL!
Yep. That happens when he gets embarrassed by his own stupidity. :-)
Nonsense. Were that the case, "J" would have slinked off in abject
humiliation years ago. <g>
Of course, it's a matter of record that Young *never* defends his trolls.
That must be Rule #1 in the Big Book O' Trolling.
LC~ Thinks it's clear that "J's" limited intellect is well-overtaxed just
planning his next hit and run cameo.
"I ain't a Jesus freak. I love porn"
From: (Jon Young)
Message-ID: <25e1e54f.0404240901.7eb55105@posting.google.com>
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| User: "Bill Baker" |
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30 Dec 2005 07:07:02 PM |
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 14:53:08 -0600, "LC" <LCisnot@this.com> wrote in
message news:<dp46nv01nbs@enews1.newsguy.com>...
"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.12.30.20.12.42.446513@postini.spamcon.org...
On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 17:29:32 +0000, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL10@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:<08etf.316$%W1.257@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
Notice how JYoung got suddenly quiet on this topic. LOL!
Yep. That happens when he gets embarrassed by his own stupidity. :-)
Nonsense. Were that the case, "J" would have slinked off in abject
humiliation years ago. <g>
No, that would require him learning from his mistakes. He obviously never
will. He's like a dog eating its own turds.
Of course, it's a matter of record that Young *never* defends his trolls.
That must be Rule #1 in the Big Book O' Trolling.
LC~ Thinks it's clear that "J's" limited intellect is well-overtaxed just
planning his next hit and run cameo.
"I ain't a Jesus freak. I love porn"
From: (Jon Young)
Message-ID: <25e1e54f.0404240901.7eb55105@posting.google.com>
--
Lurlean Lie #10:
I'm sure old Curt-See-Bare (deep throats) all the time.
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU Wants Bush Impeached |
30 Dec 2005 05:25:13 PM |
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 14:53:08 -0600, "LC" <LCisnot@this.com> wrote:
"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.12.30.20.12.42.446513@postini.spamcon.org...
On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 17:29:32 +0000, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL10@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:<08etf.316$%W1.257@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
Notice how JYoung got suddenly quiet on this topic. LOL!
Yep. That happens when he gets embarrassed by his own stupidity. :-)
Nonsense. Were that the case, "J" would have slinked off in abject
humiliation years ago. <g>
Nah. You can't embarrass an idiot like Young. He doesn't have enough
sense to realize he *should* be embarrassed.
Of course, it's a matter of record that Young *never* defends his trolls.
That must be Rule #1 in the Big Book O' Trolling.
LC~ Thinks it's clear that "J's" limited intellect is well-overtaxed just
planning his next hit and run cameo.
"I ain't a Jesus freak. I love porn"
From: (Jon Young)
Message-ID: <25e1e54f.0404240901.7eb55105@posting.google.com>
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| User: "John Baker" |
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30 Dec 2005 05:05:22 PM |
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 20:12:45 GMT, Bill Baker
<wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote:
On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 17:29:32 +0000, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL10@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:<08etf.316$%W1.257@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
Notice how JYoung got suddenly quiet on this topic. LOL!
Yep. That happens when he gets embarrassed by his own stupidity. :-)
And believe me, that's rare. An idiot like Young is hard to embarrass.
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| User: "Olrik" |
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30 Dec 2005 11:53:34 PM |
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J Young wrote:
<snip crap>
What's with the "space.gif" attachment, mongrel?
Collecting IP addresses?
--
Olrik
aa #1981
Qualified SMASH member
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division
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| User: "No One" |
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31 Dec 2005 02:05:54 PM |
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Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> writes:
J Young wrote:
<snip crap>
What's with the "space.gif" attachment, mongrel?
Collecting IP addresses?
J Young deserves a fair bit of static for his posts, but the one you
are replying to was plain text. The URL he posted a link to had
a "spacer.gif" image (the first one I found had a width of 1 pixel
and a height of 7 pixels.) That image is on the same website as
the link Young provided, and the server gets no additional
information about IP addresses than it gets when you load the URL
he gave in the first place.
People setting up web pages sometimes use a clear image, often with
names like 'spacer' or 'struct' to force a particular alignment.
Other uses of invisible images are for privacy violations or tracking,
but those will be images loaded from a different web site, or will
have a URL whose name encodes some information about a user (e.g,
in email sent to that user).
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| User: "Olrik" |
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31 Dec 2005 10:52:59 PM |
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No One wrote:
Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> writes:
J Young wrote:
<snip crap>
What's with the "space.gif" attachment, mongrel?
Collecting IP addresses?
J Young deserves a fair bit of static for his posts, but the one you
are replying to was plain text. The URL he posted a link to had
a "spacer.gif" image (the first one I found had a width of 1 pixel
and a height of 7 pixels.) That image is on the same website as
the link Young provided, and the server gets no additional
information about IP addresses than it gets when you load the URL
he gave in the first place.
I don't think that just pasting a link to a URL would cause a gif file
to appear as an attachment (I use Mozilla).
People setting up web pages sometimes use a clear image, often with
names like 'spacer' or 'struct' to force a particular alignment.
Other uses of invisible images are for privacy violations or tracking,
but those will be images loaded from a different web site, or will
have a URL whose name encodes some information about a user (e.g,
in email sent to that user).
Spacer gifs are indeed used sometimes to call "home", mostly to collect
stats.
Anyway, thanks for the reply.
--
Olrik
aa #1981
Qualified SMASH member
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division
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| User: "No One" |
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01 Jan 2006 12:32:00 PM |
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Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> writes:
No One wrote:
Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> writes:
J Young wrote:
<snip crap>
What's with the "space.gif" attachment, mongrel?
Collecting IP addresses?
J Young deserves a fair bit of static for his posts, but the one you
are replying to was plain text. The URL he posted a link to had
a "spacer.gif" image (the first one I found had a width of 1 pixel
and a height of 7 pixels.) That image is on the same website as
the link Young provided, and the server gets no additional
information about IP addresses than it gets when you load the URL
he gave in the first place.
I don't think that just pasting a link to a URL would cause a gif file
to appear as an attachment (I use Mozilla).
I'm using GNUS and the message you responded to did not show any HTML
or images of any kind when I looked. If there is HTML or an image, I
usually see the unformatted HTML and a base 64 encoded image. If you
replied to one message (e.g., for convenience), but commented about
another, I would not be able to tell, of course, and I don't see
messages in chronological order in a thread - GNUS uses some
additional headers besides the subject line to determine what message
is in what thread, and our newsreaders may group things differently.
If you see a GIF file as an attachment, however, that can't possibly
be used to track IP addresses, as the GIF file would be loaded locally
without going out over the net to fetch something, so a server would
not get any data whatsoever.
Spacer gifs are indeed used sometimes to call "home", mostly to
collect stats.
Anyway, thanks for the reply.
No problem, but keep in mind that if a spacer is used to 'call "home"',
it has to be referenced via a URL.
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| User: "olrik666" |
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02 Jan 2006 12:35:09 AM |
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No One wrote:
Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> writes:
No One wrote:
Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> writes:
J Young wrote:
<snip crap>
What's with the "space.gif" attachment, mongrel?
Collecting IP addresses?
J Young deserves a fair bit of static for his posts, but the one you
are replying to was plain text. The URL he posted a link to had
a "spacer.gif" image (the first one I found had a width of 1 pixel
and a height of 7 pixels.) That image is on the same website as
the link Young provided, and the server gets no additional
information about IP addresses than it gets when you load the URL
he gave in the first place.
I don't think that just pasting a link to a URL would cause a gif file
to appear as an attachment (I use Mozilla).
I'm using GNUS and the message you responded to did not show any HTML
or images of any kind when I looked. If there is HTML or an image, I
usually see the unformatted HTML and a base 64 encoded image. If you
replied to one message (e.g., for convenience), but commented about
another, I would not be able to tell, of course, and I don't see
messages in chronological order in a thread - GNUS uses some
additional headers besides the subject line to determine what message
is in what thread, and our newsreaders may group things differently.
If you see a GIF file as an attachment, however, that can't possibly
be used to track IP addresses, as the GIF file would be loaded locally
without going out over the net to fetch something, so a server would
not get any data whatsoever.
Spacer gifs are indeed used sometimes to call "home", mostly to
collect stats.
Anyway, thanks for the reply.
No problem, but keep in mind that if a spacer is used to 'call "home"',
it has to be referenced via a URL.
True. I reacted to the post because I tought my newsreader stripped or
hid the URL for security reasons (which it does by never displaying
HTML in emails or ngs), and that other newsreaders would not.
Olrik
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| User: "Boy Toy" |
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01 Jan 2006 12:27:50 AM |
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On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 23:52:59 -0500, Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com>
wrote in message <JeJtf.50708$vT1.1637602@wagner.videotron.net>
No One wrote:
Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> writes:
J Young wrote:
<snip crap>
What's with the "space.gif" attachment, mongrel?
Collecting IP addresses?
J Young deserves a fair bit of static for his posts, but the one you
are replying to was plain text. The URL he posted a link to had
a "spacer.gif" image (the first one I found had a width of 1 pixel
and a height of 7 pixels.) That image is on the same website as
the link Young provided, and the server gets no additional
information about IP addresses than it gets when you load the URL
he gave in the first place.
I don't think that just pasting a link to a URL would cause a gif file
to appear as an attachment (I use Mozilla).
People setting up web pages sometimes use a clear image, often with
names like 'spacer' or 'struct' to force a particular alignment.
Other uses of invisible images are for privacy violations or tracking,
but those will be images loaded from a different web site, or will
have a URL whose name encodes some information about a user (e.g,
in email sent to that user).
Spacer gifs are indeed used sometimes to call "home", mostly to collect
stats.
Anyway, thanks for the reply.
It's the one pixel gifs that are the giveaway to sentinels. Others
could be used for spacing.
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| User: "Destin Rogers" |
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30 Dec 2005 10:11:37 AM |
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J Young wrote:
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/rightangle.php
What further proof does one need to realize that the ACLU is
trying to undermine the United States?
What further proof does one need to realize that Bush & Co. are actually
succeeding in undermining the United States?
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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30 Dec 2005 06:12:59 PM |
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J Young wrote:
ACLU Wants Bush Impeached
No, no... The ACLU wants Bush on a silver platter, drizzled with a
delicate peace sauce, and placed in the army. Army ants that is.
--
"If Christians want us to believe in a Redeemer, let them act redeemed."
--Voltaire
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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30 Dec 2005 06:18:04 PM |
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In News f2ktf.8219$Pi.7540@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com,, Dionisio at
moc-rr-thgisniTA@5ellimd.com, typed this:
J Young wrote:
ACLU Wants Bush Impeached
No, no... The ACLU wants Bush on a silver platter, drizzled with a
delicate peace sauce, and placed in the army. Army ants that is.
But they would settle for impeached, for the time being...
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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30 Dec 2005 08:21:18 AM |
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J Young wrote:
What further proof does one need to realize that the ACLU is
trying to undermine the United States?
What further proof does one need to realize that fundie brat has no ethics
whatsoever?
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove,
And gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer,
And fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
Why I am not a christian:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus/nojebus
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30 Dec 2005 01:28:21 PM |
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J Young wrote:
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/rightangle.php
What further proof does one need to realize that the ACLU is
trying to undermine the United States?
As much a fairy tale as the bible.
Impeaching Shrub is only the start. He should be dragged out,
tortured into confessing using methods he approved of, use said
confessions in his trial in the Hague, then execute the *****.
Am I advocating murder? No, I'm suggesting execution of a
convicted war criminal.
Bob Dog
Atheist #153 = 1^3 + 5^3 + 3^3
EAC's chief cook and brainwasher
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"Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,
it's just a goddamned piece of paper!"
- George W. Bush, US President
From 1945 to 2003, the United States attempted to overthrow
more than 40 foreign governments, and to crush more than 30
populist-nationalist movements fighting against intolerable
regimes. In the process, the US bombed some 25 countries,
caused the end of life for several million people, and
condemned many millions more to a life of agony and despair.
- William Blum
"The best thing about the Left Behind books is the way the
non-Christians get their guts pulled out by God."
- 15-year-old fundamentalist fan of the books
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| User: "Miriam Blaylock" |
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29 Dec 2005 11:48:04 PM |
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J Young wrote:
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/rightangle.php
What further proof does one need to realize that the ACLU is
trying to undermine the United States?
ACLU Wants Bush Impeached
By: Robert B. Bluey
The ACLU is -- not very subtly -- promoting impeachment of
President Bush in an expensive, full-page ad it has placed in today's New
York Times (page A19) that says President Bush "breaks the law" just like
Richard Nixon did in Watergate.
In a clear prelude to impeachment, the ad calls for a special
counsel to be appointed "to determine whether oaths of office were broken
and federal laws violated through the Bush NSA spying program."
The ACLU, you'll remember, is leading the campaign against
renewal of the Patriot Act.
Posted 12/29/05 2:59 PM
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Thank goodness the ACLU is on to Bush.....and helping to stop spying on
American Citizens...
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Miriam Blaylock
Membre, L' Academie des Femmes
One of the Lesbian Immortals of the Left Bank
We never die....
"You'll be back. When the hunger knows no reason! And then you'll need to
feed, and you'll need me to show you how."
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU Wants Bush Impeached |
30 Dec 2005 10:24:29 PM |
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"Miriam Blaylock" <LesbianVampire@MurrayHill.nyc.net> wrote in message
news:43B4CA0B.81180B9@MurrayHill.nyc.net...
J Young wrote:
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/rightangle.php
What further proof does one need to realize that the ACLU is
trying to undermine the United States?
ACLU Wants Bush Impeached
By: Robert B. Bluey
The ACLU is -- not very subtly -- promoting impeachment of
President Bush in an expensive, full-page ad it has placed in today's New
York Times (page A19) that says President Bush "breaks the law" just like
Richard Nixon did in Watergate.
In a clear prelude to impeachment, the ad calls for a special
counsel to be appointed "to determine whether oaths of office were broken
and federal laws violated through the Bush NSA spying program."
The ACLU, you'll remember, is leading the campaign against
renewal of the Patriot Act.
Posted 12/29/05 2:59 PM
[Image]
Thank goodness the ACLU is on to Bush.....and helping to stop spying on
American Citizens...
And much, much more. But for now, the more people
and organizations in favor of getting Bush impeached,
the better.
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Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper
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Miriam Blaylock
Membre, L' Academie des Femmes
One of the Lesbian Immortals of the Left Bank
We never die....
"You'll be back. When the hunger knows no reason! And then you'll need to
feed, and you'll need me to show you how."
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU Wants Bush Impeached |
30 Dec 2005 03:28:20 AM |
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 00:41:46 -0500,
"J Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:
ACLU Wants Bush Impeached.
No surprise there. So does practically every other American
who has a modicum of intelligence AND common sense.
If WARMONGER-in-THIEF Bush can be **ousted** soon, we
just MIGHT have a shot at retaining human and civil rights in this
country.
Of course, that would be *anathema* to mindless, pett, and
bigoted contol-freaks like you and your fellow RRR Cult losers.
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/rightangle.php
ACLU Wants Bush Impeached
By: Robert B. Bluey
The ACLU is -- not very subtly -- promoting impeachment of
President Bush in an expensive, full-page ad it has placed in today's
New York Times (page A19) that says President Bush "breaks the law"
just like Richard Nixon did in Watergate.
Except that Watergate wasn't nearly as bad. Watergate didn't
threaten out liberties, and cause the MURDER tens of thousands
of people.
In a clear prelude to impeachment, the ad calls for a special
counsel to be appointed "to determine whether oaths of office were
broken and federal laws violated through the Bush NSA spying
program."
The ACLU, you'll remember, is leading the campaign against
renewal of the Patriot Act.
More accurately known, by intelligent people, as the PERFIDY Act.
The ACLU performs *many* vital services on behlf of our individual
liberties.
The ACLU is the single BEST friend, as an organiation, that the
American people have!
Posted 12/29/05 2:59 PM
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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RRR cult lemmings... dumber than dirt.
America's mentally-challenged version of the Taliban.
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU Wants Bush Impeached |
30 Dec 2005 12:50:43 AM |
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 00:41:46 -0500, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote:
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/rightangle.php
What further proof does one need to realize that the ACLU is
trying to undermine the United States?
ACLU Wants Bush Impeached
So do I. Got a problem with that, fucktard?
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| User: "Bonnie Bitch" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU Wants Bush Impeached |
30 Dec 2005 12:58:56 AM |
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 00:41:46 -0500, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com>
What further proof does one need to realize that the ACLU is
trying to undermine the United States?
Something that is not a lie, has a basis in reality, and can be
corroborated by sane people, why do you ask?
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| User: "LC" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU Wants Bush Impeached |
30 Dec 2005 08:49:11 AM |
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Schizophrenic troll-bot "J Young" <> wrote in message
news:VZydnQsQV9YZVSnenZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@giganews.com...
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/rightangle.php
Excellent idea.
Thanks for the heads up. I'll join today.
What further proof does one need to realize that the ACLU is
trying to undermine the United States?
Don't tell me: You were lying *again*, 'lil "J"? <sarcasm overload>:
"I am an egalitarian. I am pro-woman, pro-gay, pro-child, anti-Bush."
From: (J Young)
Newsgroups:
talk.abortion,alt.politics.homosexuality,tx.politics,soc.men,soc.women
Subject: Re: Straight men
Date: 13 Sep 2004 21:28:26 -0700
Message-ID: <9c2d0f9a.0409132028.141e055a@posting.google.com>
LC~ "J" is nothing if not "anti-truth".
"Of course I'm a troll. It's the only way I can get any attention. I know
it's pathetic, but it's all I have."~ J Young, in a rare moment of clarity.
Message-ID: <25e1e54f.0403040835.4c93ab13@posting.google.com>
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU Wants Bush Impeached |
30 Dec 2005 06:53:07 AM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> posting the following on Fri, 30 Dec 2005
00:41:46 -0500 iin alt.atheism?
What further proof does one need to realize that the ACLU is
trying to undermine the United States?
So, when the GOP tried to impeach Clinton for lying about his sex
life, were they trying to undermine the US as well?
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Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU Wants Bush Impeached |
30 Dec 2005 08:44:08 PM |
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in article VZydnQsQV9YZVSnenZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@giganews.com, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com wrote on 12/30/05 12:41 AM:
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/rightangle.php
What further proof does one need to realize that the ACLU is
trying to undermine the United States?
Can you tell us how and why you feel strong?
Paul
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