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29 Dec 2005 12:08:23 PM |
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Adam to Noah - 1550 years. |
I just did a little digging in an argument with Duke.
If you go to Genesis 5, there is a geneology from Adam to Noah.
Its only 1550 years total from Adam to Noah.
Genesis 5
3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his
own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:
4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred
years: and he begat sons and daughters:
5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years:
and he died.
6 And Seth lived an hundred and five years, and begat Enos: (Enos:
Heb. Enosh)
7 And Seth lived after he begat Enos eight hundred and seven years,
and begat sons and daughters:
8 And all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years: and he
died.
9 And Enos lived ninety years, and begat Cainan: (Cainan: Heb. Kenan)
10 And Enos lived after he begat Cainan eight hundred and fifteen
years, and begat sons and daughters:
11 And all the days of Enos were nine hundred and five years: and he
died.
12 And Cainan lived seventy years, and begat Mahalaleel: (Mahalaleel:
Gr. Maleleel)
13 And Cainan lived after he begat Mahalaleel eight hundred and forty
years, and begat sons and daughters:
14 And all the days of Cainan were nine hundred and ten years: and he
died.
15 And Mahalaleel lived sixty and five years, and begat Jared: (Jared:
Heb. Jered)
16 And Mahalaleel lived after he begat Jared eight hundred and thirty
years, and begat sons and daughters:
17 And all the days of Mahalaleel were eight hundred ninety and five
years: and he died.
18 And Jared lived an hundred sixty and two years, and he begat Enoch:
19 And Jared lived after he begat Enoch eight hundred years, and begat
sons and daughters:
20 And all the days of Jared were nine hundred sixty and two years:
and he died.
21 And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah:
(Methuselah: Gr. Mathusala)
22 And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred
years, and begat sons and daughters:
23 And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:
24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
25 And Methuselah lived an hundred eighty and seven years, and begat
Lamech:
26 And Methuselah lived after he begat Lamech seven hundred eighty and
two years, and begat sons and daughters: (Lamech: Heb. Lemech)
27 And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine
years: and he died.
28 And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son:
29 And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us
concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground
which the LORD hath cursed. (Noah: Gr. Noe: that is Rest, or,
Comfort)
30 And Lamech lived after he begat Noah five hundred ninety and five
years, and begat sons and daughters:
31 And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy and seven
years: and he died.
32 And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and
Japheth.
Due claimed that the Dinosaurs died off before the ark.
This causes problems for our friends the creationists.
In this time, dinosaurs had to make it from Eden to
Antartica, where their fossiles are to be found in
thick strata of rock in the rugged Antartic mountains.
Remember, animals were created in Genesis 2 to find a
help meet for Adam.
So, off to Antartica. Somehow. And to get buried in
thousands of feet of rock. Somehow. Not to mention
dinosaur bones in profusion from China to Montana.
Spread through thousands of feet thick layers of rock.
Where did all that rock come from in 1550 years?
Some creationists seem to claim that dinosaurs,
earlier and massive amphibians and large extinct
mammals died out before Noah's ark. But can't explain
how their fossils are found world wide spread through
layers of rock sometimes miles thick. And never
dinosaur fossils mixed with ice age mammal fossils.
And where those mountains came from.
Some claim they were relics from the flood.
But if so, all animals were taken into the ark
by twos, not some, not a few, but all, and
then we had to have an ark with large numbers
of huge animals.
Its amusing. Most people never realize that from
Adam to Noah's flood is 1500 years according to
Genesis 5.
And you either accept the bible as true or you don't.
If the geneologies of Genesis 5 are not true, what
else isn't. Most of it.
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Happy Hogmanay!
Cheerful Charlie
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| Title: Re: Adam to Noah - 1550 years. |
29 Dec 2005 12:48:11 PM |
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"wbarwell" <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:11r89d18juj7j6d@corp.supernews.com...
I just did a little digging in an argument with Duke.
If you go to Genesis 5, there is a geneology from Adam to Noah.
Its only 1550 years total from Adam to Noah.
Genesis 5
3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his
own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:
4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred
years: and he begat sons and daughters:
5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years:
and he died.
6 And Seth lived an hundred and five years, and begat Enos: (Enos:
Heb. Enosh)
7 And Seth lived after he begat Enos eight hundred and seven years,
and begat sons and daughters:
8 And all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years: and he
died.
9 And Enos lived ninety years, and begat Cainan: (Cainan: Heb. Kenan)
10 And Enos lived after he begat Cainan eight hundred and fifteen
years, and begat sons and daughters:
11 And all the days of Enos were nine hundred and five years: and he
died.
12 And Cainan lived seventy years, and begat Mahalaleel: (Mahalaleel:
Gr. Maleleel)
13 And Cainan lived after he begat Mahalaleel eight hundred and forty
years, and begat sons and daughters:
14 And all the days of Cainan were nine hundred and ten years: and he
died.
15 And Mahalaleel lived sixty and five years, and begat Jared: (Jared:
Heb. Jered)
16 And Mahalaleel lived after he begat Jared eight hundred and thirty
years, and begat sons and daughters:
17 And all the days of Mahalaleel were eight hundred ninety and five
years: and he died.
18 And Jared lived an hundred sixty and two years, and he begat Enoch:
19 And Jared lived after he begat Enoch eight hundred years, and begat
sons and daughters:
20 And all the days of Jared were nine hundred sixty and two years:
and he died.
21 And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah:
(Methuselah: Gr. Mathusala)
22 And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred
years, and begat sons and daughters:
23 And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:
24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
25 And Methuselah lived an hundred eighty and seven years, and begat
Lamech:
26 And Methuselah lived after he begat Lamech seven hundred eighty and
two years, and begat sons and daughters: (Lamech: Heb. Lemech)
27 And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine
years: and he died.
28 And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son:
29 And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us
concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground
which the LORD hath cursed. (Noah: Gr. Noe: that is Rest, or,
Comfort)
30 And Lamech lived after he begat Noah five hundred ninety and five
years, and begat sons and daughters:
31 And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy and seven
years: and he died.
32 And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and
Japheth.
Due claimed that the Dinosaurs died off before the ark.
This causes problems for our friends the creationists.
In this time, dinosaurs had to make it from Eden to
Antartica, where their fossiles are to be found in
thick strata of rock in the rugged Antartic mountains.
Remember, animals were created in Genesis 2 to find a
help meet for Adam.
So, off to Antartica. Somehow. And to get buried in
thousands of feet of rock. Somehow. Not to mention
dinosaur bones in profusion from China to Montana.
Spread through thousands of feet thick layers of rock.
Where did all that rock come from in 1550 years?
Some creationists seem to claim that dinosaurs,
earlier and massive amphibians and large extinct
mammals died out before Noah's ark. But can't explain
how their fossils are found world wide spread through
layers of rock sometimes miles thick. And never
dinosaur fossils mixed with ice age mammal fossils.
And where those mountains came from.
Some claim they were relics from the flood.
But if so, all animals were taken into the ark
by twos, not some, not a few, but all, and
then we had to have an ark with large numbers
of huge animals.
Its amusing. Most people never realize that from
Adam to Noah's flood is 1500 years according to
Genesis 5.
And you either accept the bible as true or you don't.
If the geneologies of Genesis 5 are not true, what
else isn't. Most of it.
Here is an example of christian math:
assumption(X) x emotion(Y) divided by the square root of(guess) x (bible
says) = gawd did it.
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| User: "NashtOn" |
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| Title: Re: Adam to Noah - 1550 years. |
29 Dec 2005 02:38:01 PM |
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DaveJr wrote:
"wbarwell" <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:11r89d18juj7j6d@corp.supernews.com...
I just did a little digging in an argument with Duke.
If you go to Genesis 5, there is a geneology from Adam to Noah.
Its only 1550 years total from Adam to Noah.
Genesis 5
3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his
own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:
4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred
years: and he begat sons and daughters:
5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years:
and he died.
6 And Seth lived an hundred and five years, and begat Enos: (Enos:
Heb. Enosh)
7 And Seth lived after he begat Enos eight hundred and seven years,
and begat sons and daughters:
8 And all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years: and he
died.
9 And Enos lived ninety years, and begat Cainan: (Cainan: Heb. Kenan)
10 And Enos lived after he begat Cainan eight hundred and fifteen
years, and begat sons and daughters:
11 And all the days of Enos were nine hundred and five years: and he
died.
12 And Cainan lived seventy years, and begat Mahalaleel: (Mahalaleel:
Gr. Maleleel)
13 And Cainan lived after he begat Mahalaleel eight hundred and forty
years, and begat sons and daughters:
14 And all the days of Cainan were nine hundred and ten years: and he
died.
15 And Mahalaleel lived sixty and five years, and begat Jared: (Jared:
Heb. Jered)
16 And Mahalaleel lived after he begat Jared eight hundred and thirty
years, and begat sons and daughters:
17 And all the days of Mahalaleel were eight hundred ninety and five
years: and he died.
18 And Jared lived an hundred sixty and two years, and he begat Enoch:
19 And Jared lived after he begat Enoch eight hundred years, and begat
sons and daughters:
20 And all the days of Jared were nine hundred sixty and two years:
and he died.
21 And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah:
(Methuselah: Gr. Mathusala)
22 And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred
years, and begat sons and daughters:
23 And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:
24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
25 And Methuselah lived an hundred eighty and seven years, and begat
Lamech:
26 And Methuselah lived after he begat Lamech seven hundred eighty and
two years, and begat sons and daughters: (Lamech: Heb. Lemech)
27 And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine
years: and he died.
28 And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son:
29 And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us
concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground
which the LORD hath cursed. (Noah: Gr. Noe: that is Rest, or,
Comfort)
30 And Lamech lived after he begat Noah five hundred ninety and five
years, and begat sons and daughters:
31 And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy and seven
years: and he died.
32 And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and
Japheth.
Due claimed that the Dinosaurs died off before the ark.
This causes problems for our friends the creationists.
In this time, dinosaurs had to make it from Eden to
Antartica, where their fossiles are to be found in
thick strata of rock in the rugged Antartic mountains.
Remember, animals were created in Genesis 2 to find a
help meet for Adam.
So, off to Antartica. Somehow. And to get buried in
thousands of feet of rock. Somehow. Not to mention
dinosaur bones in profusion from China to Montana.
Spread through thousands of feet thick layers of rock.
Where did all that rock come from in 1550 years?
Some creationists seem to claim that dinosaurs,
earlier and massive amphibians and large extinct
mammals died out before Noah's ark. But can't explain
how their fossils are found world wide spread through
layers of rock sometimes miles thick. And never
dinosaur fossils mixed with ice age mammal fossils.
And where those mountains came from.
Some claim they were relics from the flood.
But if so, all animals were taken into the ark
by twos, not some, not a few, but all, and
then we had to have an ark with large numbers
of huge animals.
Its amusing. Most people never realize that from
Adam to Noah's flood is 1500 years according to
Genesis 5.
And you either accept the bible as true or you don't.
If the geneologies of Genesis 5 are not true, what
else isn't. Most of it.
Here is an example of christian math:
assumption(X) x emotion(Y) divided by the square root of(guess) x (bible
says) = gawd did it.
Evomath:
X(atheism) * <we might find fossils> * <R. Dawkins doesn't believe in
G-d> * <Brownien mvt> * <defending the scientific status quo>^3 = WNT
(Wishful naturalistic thinking
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| User: "kathryn" |
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30 Dec 2005 08:38:40 AM |
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"NashtOn" <nana@na.ca> wrote in message
news:JOXsf.146902$Ph4.4488372@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
DaveJr wrote:
"wbarwell" <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:11r89d18juj7j6d@corp.supernews.com...
I just did a little digging in an argument with Duke.
If you go to Genesis 5, there is a geneology from Adam to Noah.
Its only 1550 years total from Adam to Noah.
Genesis 5
3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his
own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:
4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred
years: and he begat sons and daughters:
5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years:
and he died.
6 And Seth lived an hundred and five years, and begat Enos: (Enos:
Heb. Enosh)
7 And Seth lived after he begat Enos eight hundred and seven years,
and begat sons and daughters:
8 And all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years: and he
died.
9 And Enos lived ninety years, and begat Cainan: (Cainan: Heb. Kenan)
10 And Enos lived after he begat Cainan eight hundred and fifteen
years, and begat sons and daughters:
11 And all the days of Enos were nine hundred and five years: and he
died.
12 And Cainan lived seventy years, and begat Mahalaleel: (Mahalaleel:
Gr. Maleleel)
13 And Cainan lived after he begat Mahalaleel eight hundred and forty
years, and begat sons and daughters:
14 And all the days of Cainan were nine hundred and ten years: and he
died.
15 And Mahalaleel lived sixty and five years, and begat Jared: (Jared:
Heb. Jered)
16 And Mahalaleel lived after he begat Jared eight hundred and thirty
years, and begat sons and daughters:
17 And all the days of Mahalaleel were eight hundred ninety and five
years: and he died.
18 And Jared lived an hundred sixty and two years, and he begat Enoch:
19 And Jared lived after he begat Enoch eight hundred years, and begat
sons and daughters:
20 And all the days of Jared were nine hundred sixty and two years:
and he died.
21 And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah:
(Methuselah: Gr. Mathusala)
22 And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred
years, and begat sons and daughters:
23 And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:
24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
25 And Methuselah lived an hundred eighty and seven years, and begat
Lamech:
26 And Methuselah lived after he begat Lamech seven hundred eighty and
two years, and begat sons and daughters: (Lamech: Heb. Lemech)
27 And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine
years: and he died.
28 And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son:
29 And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us
concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground
which the LORD hath cursed. (Noah: Gr. Noe: that is Rest, or,
Comfort)
30 And Lamech lived after he begat Noah five hundred ninety and five
years, and begat sons and daughters:
31 And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy and seven
years: and he died.
32 And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and
Japheth.
Due claimed that the Dinosaurs died off before the ark.
This causes problems for our friends the creationists.
In this time, dinosaurs had to make it from Eden to
Antartica, where their fossiles are to be found in
thick strata of rock in the rugged Antartic mountains.
Remember, animals were created in Genesis 2 to find a
help meet for Adam.
So, off to Antartica. Somehow. And to get buried in
thousands of feet of rock. Somehow. Not to mention
dinosaur bones in profusion from China to Montana.
Spread through thousands of feet thick layers of rock.
Where did all that rock come from in 1550 years?
Some creationists seem to claim that dinosaurs,
earlier and massive amphibians and large extinct
mammals died out before Noah's ark. But can't explain
how their fossils are found world wide spread through
layers of rock sometimes miles thick. And never
dinosaur fossils mixed with ice age mammal fossils.
And where those mountains came from.
Some claim they were relics from the flood.
But if so, all animals were taken into the ark
by twos, not some, not a few, but all, and
then we had to have an ark with large numbers
of huge animals.
Its amusing. Most people never realize that from
Adam to Noah's flood is 1500 years according to
Genesis 5.
And you either accept the bible as true or you don't.
If the geneologies of Genesis 5 are not true, what
else isn't. Most of it.
Here is an example of christian math:
assumption(X) x emotion(Y) divided by the square root of(guess) x (bible
says) = gawd did it.
Evomath:
X(atheism) * <we might find fossils> * <R. Dawkins doesn't believe in
G-d> * <Brownien mvt> * <defending the scientific status quo>^3 = WNT
(Wishful naturalistic thinking
Awww sweetie! You do realise that most of the developed world has accepted
that evolution is correct regardless of their specific religious belief and
that we're all just laughing our arses off at you?
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| User: "SeppoP" |
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30 Dec 2005 10:38:13 AM |
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kathryn wrote:
"NashtOn" <nana@na.ca> wrote in message
<snip>
Awww sweetie! You do realise that most of the developed world has accepted
that evolution is correct regardless of their specific religious belief and
that we're all just laughing our arses off at you?
Awww, you're getting all too complexicated for poor Nashiepoo!
--
Seppo P.
What's wrong with Theocracy? (a Finnish Taliban, Oct 1, 2005)
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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30 Dec 2005 06:01:50 PM |
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SeppoP wrote:
kathryn wrote:
"NashtOn" <nana@na.ca> wrote in message
<snip>
Awww sweetie! You do realise that most of the developed world has accepted
that evolution is correct regardless of their specific religious belief and
that we're all just laughing our arses off at you?
Awww, you're getting all too complexicated for poor Nashiepoo!
Better watch what you say - she's gonna get really NashtOff at y'all!
Budikka
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| User: "SeppoP" |
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31 Dec 2005 12:05:17 AM |
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Budikka666 wrote:
SeppoP wrote:
kathryn wrote:
"NashtOn" <nana@na.ca> wrote in message
<snip>
Awww sweetie! You do realise that most of the developed world has accepted
that evolution is correct regardless of their specific religious belief and
that we're all just laughing our arses off at you?
Awww, you're getting all too complexicated for poor Nashiepoo!
Better watch what you say - she's gonna get really NashtOff at y'all!
Budikka
I'll just have try to bear with that. :)
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Seppo P.
What's wrong with Theocracy? (a Finnish Taliban, Oct 1, 2005)
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29 Dec 2005 06:50:58 PM |
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In article <JOXsf.146902$Ph4.4488372@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>,
NashtOn said...
Evomath:
X(atheism) * <we might find fossils> * <R. Dawkins doesn't believe in
G-d> * <Brownien mvt> * <defending the scientific status quo>^3 = WNT
(Wishful naturalistic thinking
Wow, you've produced something strangely redolent of that
Purgatory of noise known as "Contemporary Christian Music": a
lackluster attempt to sound like a superior secular original.
;-)
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Brian E. Clark
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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30 Dec 2005 12:22:55 AM |
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NashtOn wrote:
Evomath:
X(atheism)
Clearly you're a rank amateur with one credit in "reading asinine
cretinist web sites" and one credit in "gross gullibility". That's
what's holding you back again this year - not enough to graduate.
Atheism has **NOTHING** whatsoever to do with the Theory of Evolution,
which was first promulgated in a rational scientific form by a man who
almost entered the clergy himself.
Today the modern Theory of Evolution rests on 150 years of solid
science, which has been published in refereed science journals
worldwide by people **OF ALL FAITHS** and all nationalities.
Meanwhile, what evidence do the cretinists have? Is there even **ONE**
paper published in a science journal which overthrows the Theory of
Evolution? No!
Well, is there any paper published *anywhere* which establishes an
alternative *scientific* theory which better explains the evidence than
does the Theory of Evolution? No!
So what formula does that leave? Blind Belief * No science = Vacuous
Whining
* <we might find fossils>
There are literally millions of fossils, including transitional
fossils.
* <R. Dawkins doesn't believe in G-d>
Entirely irrelevant.
* <Brownien mvt>
That's about what your comments amount to so far - or *some* kind of
brown movement, anyway.
* <defending the scientific status quo>^3
Hardly, as Eldredge and Gould demonstrated admirably when they
published their views on punctuated equilibria.
= WNT (Wishful naturalistic thinking
Now you're down to where all fundies and cretinists come - lies. Let's
hit it:
While certain colossally clueless congenital cretinists lie that
there's no proof or evidence, the Theory of Evolution accumulates
mountains of evidence published in peer-reviewed science journals the
world over by people of all faiths, and is now honored by _Science_
journal: "Research into how evolution works has been named top science
achievement of 2005":
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4552466.stm
26 proofs of macroevolution:
http://tinyurl.com/79btb
666 items of evidence strongly supporting macroevolution:
Example 1: http://tinyurl.com/dxqjc
Example 2: http://tinyurl.com/d4376
Example 3: http://tinyurl.com/d5vqm
Example 4: http://tinyurl.com/dmbxj
Example 5: http://tinyurl.com/cy7r7
Example 6: http://tinyurl.com/dj9sh
Example 7: http://tinyurl.com/aplxu
Example 8: http://tinyurl.com/clpsx
Examples 9-539: http://tinyurl.com/cy9m2
Example 540: http://tinyurl.com/dsjku
Example 541: http://tinyurl.com/bhxw2
Example 542: http://tinyurl.com/77tyl
Example 543: http://tinyurl.com/bpdqm
Example 544: http://tinyurl.com/czsdq
Example 545: http://tinyurl.com/9qnrc
Example 546: http://tinyurl.com/dxg8s
Example 547: http://tinyurl.com/88kch
Example 548: http://tinyurl.com/88kch (shared with 547 thread)
Example 549: http://tinyurl.com/ccw8y
Example 550: http://tinyurl.com/7cxsz
Example 551: http://tinyurl.com/74o4q
Examples 552-577: http://tinyurl.com/7u8lv
Example 578: http://tinyurl.com/9xo8o
Example 579: http://tinyurl.com/avzzk
Example 580: http://tinyurl.com/7segx
Example 581: http://tinyurl.com/8c8od
Example 582: http://tinyurl.com/9voan
Example 583: http://tinyurl.com/76zao (misnumbered as 582)
Example 584: http://tinyurl.com/crzmz
Example 585: http://tinyurl.com/exagp
Examples 586-590: http://tinyurl.com/c4pea
Example 591: http://tinyurl.com/9aveh
Example 592: http://tinyurl.com/d2vmd
Example 593: http://tinyurl.com/dsg6z
Example 594: http://tinyurl.com/75rdt
Example 595: http://tinyurl.com/ak3oo
Example 596: http://tinyurl.com/anqh5
Example 597: http://tinyurl.com/89zjr
Example 598: http://tinyurl.com/e3f2b
Example 599: http://tinyurl.com/7oorv
Example 600: http://tinyurl.com/cujkx
Examples 601-608: http://tinyurl.com/bnflb
Examples 609-615: http://tinyurl.com/9pl7b
Examples 616-635: http://tinyurl.com/b4brg
Examples 636-666 http://tinyurl.com/chfv2
Readily available information on, and evidence for evolution:
A Christian take on radiometric dating:
http://www.asa3.org/ASA/resources/Wiens.html#page
Abiogenesis:
http://home.houston.rr.com/apologia/orgel.htm
http://informationcentre.tripod.com/abiogenesis.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/abioprob/default.htm
Proto cells:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/239787.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/1142840.stm
Factories of life:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/275738.stm
Lab molecules mimic life:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/217054.stm
Mechanism for evolution described:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/222096.stm
Smallest genome a lot smaller than smallest modern cell:
http://mednews.stanford.edu/releases/2001/
Precambrian to cambrian:
http://www.asa3.org/ASA/topics/evolution/PSCF12-97Miller.html
Early diversification:
http://cas.bellarmine.edu/tietjen/Ecology/early_animal_evolution.htm
Transitional forms:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-transitional.html
Primitive fish different:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/504776.stm
Fish with fingers:
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNews/fishfossil0312.html
Snake with legs:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/680116.stm
Ant-wasp evolution:
http://www.antnest.co.uk/Origin.html
Mosquitoes still evolving:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/158522.stm
Origins of flight:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2664541.stm
4-winged dinos:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2684927.stm
Dog evolution:
http://www.provet.co.uk/online/dogs/evolution%20of%20the%20dog.htm
Human evolution:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/
Computer simulated evolution:
http://necsi.org/postdocs/sayama/sdsr/
Evolution vs. creationism debates:
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/science/creationism/debates.html
Evolution not "atheist religion":
http://www.catholic.net/RCC/Periodicals/Inside/01-97/creat2.html
29 Evidences supporting evolution:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
The evolution of the eye:
http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~lindsay/creation/eye.html
The woodpecker's tongue:
http://omega.med.yale.edu/~rjr38/Woodpecker.htm
Radiometric dating - a Christian perpective:
http://www.asa3.org/ASA/resources/Wiens.html#page
Noah's ark never happened:
http://www.abarnett.demon.co.uk/atheism/noahs_ark.html
Ex-creationist on why young Earth creationism doesn't work:
http://www.glenn.morton.btinternet.co.uk/
Another ex-creationist:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Thebes/7755/
Creationists cannot define "kind":
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2437/kinds.htm
Even evolutionists believe in God!:
http://www.exn.ca/Stories/1997/04/04/01.asp
General anti-creationism/pro-evolution FAQs:
http://www.millerandlevine.com/km/evol/index.html
http://www.rice.edu/armadillo/Sciacademy/riggins/newindex.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-meritt/complexity.html
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/dave_matson/young-earth/
http://www.nobeliefs.com/Creationism.htm
http://vuletic.com/hume/cefec/index.html
Questionable creationist credentials:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/credentials.html
Even dyed-in-the-wool creationists think a lot of their arguments are
bad:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/dont_use.asp
Budikka
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30 Dec 2005 08:49:13 AM |
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In message <1135923775.432589.182790@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
666 items of evidence strongly supporting macroevolution:
^^^
666 is the Number of the Beast = Proof that evolution is a plot by
Satan!!!
Ahem. Excuse me, I think I was channelling Nashton for a minute there...
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Nick Roberts tigger @ orpheusinternet.co.uk
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29 Dec 2005 01:40:47 PM |
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DaveJr wrote:
"wbarwell" <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
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I just did a little digging in an argument with Duke.
If you go to Genesis 5, there is a geneology from Adam to Noah.
Its only 1550 years total from Adam to Noah.
Genesis 5
3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his
own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:
4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred
years: and he begat sons and daughters:
5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years:
and he died.
6 And Seth lived an hundred and five years, and begat Enos: (Enos:
Heb. Enosh)
7 And Seth lived after he begat Enos eight hundred and seven years,
and begat sons and daughters:
8 And all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years: and he
died.
9 And Enos lived ninety years, and begat Cainan: (Cainan: Heb. Kenan)
10 And Enos lived after he begat Cainan eight hundred and fifteen
years, and begat sons and daughters:
11 And all the days of Enos were nine hundred and five years: and he
died.
12 And Cainan lived seventy years, and begat Mahalaleel: (Mahalaleel:
Gr. Maleleel)
13 And Cainan lived after he begat Mahalaleel eight hundred and forty
years, and begat sons and daughters:
14 And all the days of Cainan were nine hundred and ten years: and he
died.
15 And Mahalaleel lived sixty and five years, and begat Jared: (Jared:
Heb. Jered)
16 And Mahalaleel lived after he begat Jared eight hundred and thirty
years, and begat sons and daughters:
17 And all the days of Mahalaleel were eight hundred ninety and five
years: and he died.
18 And Jared lived an hundred sixty and two years, and he begat Enoch:
19 And Jared lived after he begat Enoch eight hundred years, and begat
sons and daughters:
20 And all the days of Jared were nine hundred sixty and two years:
and he died.
21 And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah:
(Methuselah: Gr. Mathusala)
22 And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred
years, and begat sons and daughters:
23 And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:
24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
25 And Methuselah lived an hundred eighty and seven years, and begat
Lamech:
26 And Methuselah lived after he begat Lamech seven hundred eighty and
two years, and begat sons and daughters: (Lamech: Heb. Lemech)
27 And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine
years: and he died.
28 And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son:
29 And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us
concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground
which the LORD hath cursed. (Noah: Gr. Noe: that is Rest, or,
Comfort)
30 And Lamech lived after he begat Noah five hundred ninety and five
years, and begat sons and daughters:
31 And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy and seven
years: and he died.
32 And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and
Japheth.
Due claimed that the Dinosaurs died off before the ark.
This causes problems for our friends the creationists.
In this time, dinosaurs had to make it from Eden to
Antartica, where their fossiles are to be found in
thick strata of rock in the rugged Antartic mountains.
Remember, animals were created in Genesis 2 to find a
help meet for Adam.
So, off to Antartica. Somehow. And to get buried in
thousands of feet of rock. Somehow. Not to mention
dinosaur bones in profusion from China to Montana.
Spread through thousands of feet thick layers of rock.
Where did all that rock come from in 1550 years?
Some creationists seem to claim that dinosaurs,
earlier and massive amphibians and large extinct
mammals died out before Noah's ark. But can't explain
how their fossils are found world wide spread through
layers of rock sometimes miles thick. And never
dinosaur fossils mixed with ice age mammal fossils.
And where those mountains came from.
Some claim they were relics from the flood.
But if so, all animals were taken into the ark
by twos, not some, not a few, but all, and
then we had to have an ark with large numbers
of huge animals.
Its amusing. Most people never realize that from
Adam to Noah's flood is 1500 years according to
Genesis 5.
And you either accept the bible as true or you don't.
If the geneologies of Genesis 5 are not true, what
else isn't. Most of it.
Here is an example of christian math:
assumption(X) x emotion(Y) divided by the square root of(guess) x (bible
says) = gawd did it.
Sorry to correct you, DaveJr, but that should be G_D not gawd. (G_d
knows why.)
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29 Dec 2005 08:58:25 PM |
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Bob D wrote:
<snip>
Sorry to correct you, DaveJr, but that should be G_D not gawd. (G_d
knows why.)
It just struck me that if we dump the "g" and keep the "o" we'd have a
better idea of what we are talking about.
_OD told me.
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| User: "John Wilkins" |
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29 Dec 2005 11:00:04 PM |
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Mike Painter wrote:
Bob D wrote:
<snip>
Sorry to correct you, DaveJr, but that should be G_D not gawd. (G_d
knows why.)
It just struck me that if we dump the "g" and keep the "o" we'd have a
better idea of what we are talking about.
_OD told me.
Would that make it Sod's Law?
--
John S. Wilkins, Postdoctoral Research Fellow, Biohumanities Project
University of Queensland - Blog: evolvethought.blogspot.com
Servum tui ero, ipse vespera
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| User: "Daniel Harper" |
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30 Dec 2005 02:38:07 PM |
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 15:00:04 +1000, John Wilkins wrote:
Mike Painter wrote:
Bob D wrote:
<snip>
Sorry to correct you, DaveJr, but that should be G_D not gawd. (G_d
knows why.)
It just struck me that if we dump the "g" and keep the "o" we'd have a
better idea of what we are talking about.
_OD told me.
Would that make it Sod's Law?
I thought it was Zod, from _Superman II_.
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Get it in libraries. Let the public decide.
danielharper.blogspot.com
(Change terra to earth to email)
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29 Dec 2005 02:46:07 PM |
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Bob D wrote:
Here is an example of christian math:
assumption(X) x emotion(Y) divided by the square root of(guess) x (bible
says) = gawd did it.
Sorry to correct you, DaveJr, but that should be G_D not gawd. (G_d
knows why.)
I usually call him Arnold.
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aa #2133
ap #19
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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29 Dec 2005 01:59:38 PM |
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DaveJr wrote:
Here is an example of christian math:
assumption(X) x emotion(Y) divided by the square root of(guess) x (bible
says) = gawd did it.
There's a slight flaw in your math, it would seem. I think it ought to
read:
assumption(X) * (emotion(Y) / the square root of(guess)) * Bible says -
Satan = gawd did it ^Jesus
OTOH, math isn't my strongest suit, so I may be an order of magi
off....
B.
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| User: "Kleuskes & Moos" |
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31 Dec 2005 07:25:15 AM |
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Budikka666 schreef:
DaveJr wrote:
Here is an example of christian math:
assumption(X) x emotion(Y) divided by the square root of(guess) x (bible
says) = gawd did it.
There's a slight flaw in your math, it would seem. I think it ought to
read:
assumption(X) * (emotion(Y) / the square root of(guess)) * Bible says -
Satan = gawd did it ^Jesus
OTOH, math isn't my strongest suit, so I may be an order of magi
off....
It shows
That 'to power of Jesus' should of course be a cross product.
B.
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29 Dec 2005 02:39:46 PM |
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Budikka666 wrote:
DaveJr wrote:
Here is an example of christian math:
assumption(X) x emotion(Y) divided by the square root of(guess) x (bible
says) = gawd did it.
There's a slight flaw in your math, it would seem. I think it ought to
read:
assumption(X) * (emotion(Y) / the square root of(guess)) * Bible says -
Satan = gawd did it ^Jesus
OTOH, math isn't my strongest suit, so I may be an order of magi
off....
B.
Give it time. You'll know how "off" you were, trust me.
Nicola
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| User: "Just Mark" |
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29 Dec 2005 04:02:41 PM |
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"NashtOn" <nana@na.ca> wrote in message
news:mQXsf.146903$Ph4.4488372@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
Budikka666 wrote:
DaveJr wrote:
Here is an example of christian math:
assumption(X) x emotion(Y) divided by the square root of(guess) x (bible
says) = gawd did it.
There's a slight flaw in your math, it would seem. I think it ought to
read:
assumption(X) * (emotion(Y) / the square root of(guess)) * Bible says -
Satan = gawd did it ^Jesus
OTOH, math isn't my strongest suit, so I may be an order of magi
off....
B.
Give it time. You'll know how "off" you were, trust me.
Threaten us. Yeah...that'll work.
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| User: "Brian E. Clark" |
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29 Dec 2005 06:45:27 PM |
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In article <mQXsf.146903$Ph4.4488372@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>,
NashtOn said...
Give it time. You'll know how "off" you were, trust me.
I'd sooner trust an encephalitic dodo.
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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30 Dec 2005 12:09:12 AM |
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Brian E. Clark wrote:
In article <mQXsf.146903$Ph4.4488372@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>,
NashtOn said...
Give it time. You'll know how "off" you were, trust me.
I'd sooner trust an encephalitic dodo.
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Brian E. Clark
Funny you should mention that, today of all days!:
http://tinyurl.com/7wbe3
B.
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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29 Dec 2005 11:58:28 PM |
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NashtOn wrote:
Budikka666 wrote:
DaveJr wrote:
Here is an example of christian math:
assumption(X) x emotion(Y) divided by the square root of(guess) x (bible
says) = gawd did it.
There's a slight flaw in your math, it would seem. I think it ought to
read:
assumption(X) * (emotion(Y) / the square root of(guess)) * Bible says -
Satan = gawd did it ^Jesus
OTOH, math isn't my strongest suit, so I may be an order of magi
off....
B.
Give it time. You'll know how "off" you were, trust me.
Nicola
Why would I trust *you*? Just take your word for it? Uh, yeah, sure.
Prove your myth isn't a myth and maybe I'll think about it, but
juvenile Santa Claus wishes don't cut it IRL
Budikka
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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29 Dec 2005 02:07:52 PM |
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On 29 Dec 2005 11:59:38 -0800, "Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net>
wrote:
DaveJr wrote:
Here is an example of christian math:
assumption(X) x emotion(Y) divided by the square root of(guess) x (bible
says) = gawd did it.
There's a slight flaw in your math, it would seem. I think it ought to
read:
assumption(X) * (emotion(Y) / the square root of(guess)) * Bible says -
Satan = gawd did it ^Jesus
OTOH, math isn't my strongest suit, so I may be an order of magi
off....
Weren't the Magi Zoroastrians?
B.
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29 Dec 2005 07:38:07 PM |
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On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 11:59:38 -0800, Budikka666 wrote:
DaveJr wrote:
Here is an example of christian math:
assumption(X) x emotion(Y) divided by the square root of(guess) x (bible
says) = gawd did it.
There's a slight flaw in your math, it would seem. I think it ought to
read:
assumption(X) * (emotion(Y) / the square root of(guess)) * Bible says -
Satan = gawd did it ^Jesus
OTOH, math isn't my strongest suit, so I may be an order of magi
off....
B.
Does the equation balance dimensionally? Lets see ... both Satan and
Jesus are imaginary numbers [magnitude *sqrt (-1)] so anything to an
imaginary power is a sine wave ... and it makes about as much sense as the
Bible.
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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30 Dec 2005 12:10:53 AM |
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Adario wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 11:59:38 -0800, Budikka666 wrote:
DaveJr wrote:
Here is an example of christian math:
assumption(X) x emotion(Y) divided by the square root of(guess) x (bible
says) = gawd did it.
There's a slight flaw in your math, it would seem. I think it ought to
read:
assumption(X) * (emotion(Y) / the square root of(guess)) * Bible says -
Satan = gawd did it ^Jesus
OTOH, math isn't my strongest suit, so I may be an order of magi
off....
B.
Does the equation balance dimensionally? Lets see ... both Satan and
Jesus are imaginary numbers [magnitude *sqrt (-1)] so anything to an
imaginary power is a sine wave ... and it makes about as much sense as the
Bible.
You forget to take away the number you first thought of! Now what
*was* the number you very first thought of ever? Hmmmm....;)
B.
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| User: "Bob Pease" |
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29 Dec 2005 06:46:31 PM |
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"wbarwell" <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:11r89d18juj7j6d@corp.supernews.com...
I just did a little digging in an argument with Duke.
If you go to Genesis 5, there is a geneology from Adam to Noah.
Its only 1550 years total from Adam to Noah.
http://www.commandmentsofyhwh.org/Genesis/genealog.htm
It all adds up ok!!
Due claimed that the Dinosaurs died off before the ark.
This causes problems for our friends the creationists.
In this time, dinosaurs had to make it from Eden to
Antartica, where their fossiles are to be found in
thick strata of rock in the rugged Antartic mountains.
They could run pretty fast in those days...
Remember, animals were created in Genesis 2 to find a
help meet for Adam.
Actually that is translate as a "Hep" meet, Current usage is "Hip Meat"
meaning a Jazzy meeting or spare ribs, depending on your taste in the
matter.
So, off to Antartica. Somehow. And to get buried in
thousands of feet of rock. Somehow. Not to mention
dinosaur bones in profusion from China to Montana.
There are lots of Chinese Restaurants in Montana.
Spread through thousands of feet thick layers of rock.
Where did all that rock come from in 1550 years?
Flood
Some creationists seem to claim that dinosaurs,
earlier and massive amphibians and large extinct
mammals died out before Noah's ark. But can't explain
how their fossils are found world wide spread through
layers of rock sometimes miles thick. And never
dinosaur fossils mixed with ice age mammal fossils.
And where those mountains came from.
Some claim they were relics from the flood.
But if so, all animals were taken into the ark
by twos, not some, not a few, but all, and
then we had to have an ark with large numbers
of huge animals.
Many Explanations..
some frivolous, some serious,
Magic Gopher Wood Wood of infinite strength,
wTo animals of each "Kind"
Google TO. archives for many, many posts on the subject.
Its amusing. Most people never realize that from
Adam to Noah's flood is 1500 years according to
Genesis 5.
So what??
Just define "Year" to make it work.
And you either accept the bible as true or you don't.
If the geneologies of Genesis 5 are not true, what
else isn't. Most of it.
It is common to use Doublespeak to carefully re-define words to make them
mean what you want them to mean. Thus the bible can be "True" no matter WHAT
it says.
(Humpty Dumpty,,Lewis Carroll)
A common explanation was that Satan planted the fossils
so as to delude people about the truth of the Bible.
RJ Pease
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29 Dec 2005 12:39:39 PM |
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Antarctica was in a a relatively different position from Adam to now.
We must account for continental drift and polar shifts.
peace, mmgr
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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29 Dec 2005 02:27:29 PM |
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ramiga wrote:
Antarctica was in a a relatively different position from Adam to
now. We must account for continental drift and polar shifts.
peace, mmgr
If you go by the Genesis geneologies, the Earth is 6000
years old. Moving from the vicinity of Eden in Iraq 6,000
years ago to present locale is about 6000 miles, about a
mile a year.
Look what a 60' foot movement in Indonesia of the
Earth's crust did. Tsunami.
A mile a year is 14 1/2 feet a day average.
While building up some fairly nice mountains and
sprinkling them full of dinosaur fossils too.
--
Happy Hogmanay!
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Stephen J. Ghoul" |
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02 Jan 2006 05:49:32 PM |
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Silly Darwinist ;-). Originally, all the land masses were together, but the
flood caused the continents to separate carrying all the animals around the
globe. They didn't really have room to mention that detail in the Bible. So
when Antartica, got to the south pole, all the fresh rain water froze.
"wbarwell" <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:11r8hhpn5gqmiae@corp.supernews.com...
ramiga wrote:
Antarctica was in a a relatively different position from Adam to
now. We must account for continental drift and polar shifts.
peace, mmgr
If you go by the Genesis geneologies, the Earth is 6000
years old. Moving from the vicinity of Eden in Iraq 6,000
years ago to present locale is about 6000 miles, about a
mile a year.
Look what a 60' foot movement in Indonesia of the
Earth's crust did. Tsunami.
A mile a year is 14 1/2 feet a day average.
While building up some fairly nice mountains and
sprinkling them full of dinosaur fossils too.
--
Happy Hogmanay!
Cheerful Charlie
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07 Jan 2006 06:07:42 AM |
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wbarwell wrote:
ramiga wrote:
Antarctica was in a a relatively different position from Adam to
now. We must account for continental drift and polar shifts.
peace, mmgr
If you go by the Genesis geneologies, the Earth is 6000
years old. Moving from the vicinity of Eden in Iraq 6,000
years ago to present locale is about 6000 miles, about a
mile a year.
Look what a 60' foot movement in Indonesia of the
Earth's crust did. Tsunami.
A mile a year is 14 1/2 feet a day average.
If you think about the implications of this, it becomes even more
ridiculous: To move a continent require energy, and vast amounts of it.
The energy to move continents at the speeds - which are in the range of
millimeters per year - we see today comes from the heat of the earth's
core, driving convection currents in the mantle.
The proposal is that the continents moved many thousands of times
faster than current rates. The kinetic energy of a body (which is
related to the energy which needs to be put into it to accelerate it to
its current velocity) is proportional to the square of the velocity.
Therefore, the additional energy input needs to be millions of times
more than current levels.
I wonder if any creationist can explain how such a vast energy output
can be maintained without vaporising the earth, the moon and the other
inner planets?
RF
While building up some fairly nice mountains and
sprinkling them full of dinosaur fossils too.
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Happy Hogmanay!
Cheerful Charlie
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| Title: Re: Adam to Noah - 1550 years. |
29 Dec 2005 02:38:50 PM |
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ramiga wrote:
Antarctica was in a a relatively different position from Adam to now.
We must account for continental drift and polar shifts.
Antarctica was almost exactly right where it is now 6000 years ago. Plate
tectonics is a very slow process that takes millions of years.
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aa #2133
ap #19
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