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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Lee me@localhost"
Date: 03 Apr 2007 05:52:02 AM
Object: African priest 'holy' cure putting lives at risk.
Ethiopian Aids victims are being convinced to drop drug treatment to control
the disease in favour of holy water cure, some 'patients' chained to stop
them running away.
People that are convinced that they are cured then go on to infect others.
Christian mythology killing yet again:
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1258762,00.html
Lee
.

User: ""

Title: Re: African priest 'holy' cure putting lives at risk. 07 Apr 2007 11:26:33 AM
On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 15:46:04 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com>
wrote:


But we haven't seen an QUALITY writing from YOU!
Just criticism from others.
(that's called "envy")

I've written a lot of comical poems, and numerous REAL Haiku
concerning you, old man LEGION!!!!
And don't break your arm trying to pat your own back, old boy- there
is absolutely NOTHING about you I would possibly be jealous of.


And my haiku (which won an award for me in 10th grade)

Christmas:

The small boy takes
his new sled out
and waits for snow.

That's not even a real Haiku.
A REAL haiku has 5 syllables in the first line, SEVEN in the second
line, and 5 again in the third.
Your silly thing has 4,4,and 4.
You call that crappola GRADE TEN material?
What was it- special ed???

Just because you don't get it, Elaine (it was over your head)
doesn't make it any less art.

REAL poetry and Haiku are not over my head, old boy- I simply don't
feel the need to compose it on a daily basis- but I just might compose
more for 'special' old you.............


I've showed this haiku to MANY people who thought it was profound.


Uh-huh--- they must be as nutty as you then, short-bus!

I posted this one as well:

Singing In The Shower

I sang off key
I was alone
It sounded beautiful to me!

Arghhhhhhh- when will you EVER learn what a real Haiku is, old
barnacle?
The above catastrophe is 4, 4, and 8 ------ AGAIN, not a real Haiku.


I've been told more than once that this one was profound.

Yes, no doubt - profoundly idiotic.


and a 'talking Christmas tree'.......

Liar!
It was not a "talking Christmas tree".
The story was about a Christmas play (many said I plagiarized, and I
asked them to kindly post the story I copied; no one -- including
YOU-- ever posted the story I "plagiarized".)
The story was called "The Living Christmas Tree SHOUT", but it was
not about the tree shouting.
And yuo READ the story, and now SADLY, you choose to LIE about the
story!

'YUO' need to learn how to spell "YOU"............

m m


As well, he admitted a couple of years back to changing the wording to
a document he found, thereby 'claiming it as his' ------ plagiarism


AGAIN, Elaine, you lie!
I put a number of stories and articles on the web page of a friend.
One of the clips I used was a quote from the Bible. To the clip from
the Bible, I added a title I had made up.

It went like this:

"We Have Them Surrounded"

The quote was,

2KI 6:15 When the servant of the man of God got up and went out
early the next morning, an army with horses and chariots had
surrounded the city. "Oh, my lord, what shall we do?" the servant
asked.

2KI 6:16 "Don't be afraid," the prophet answered. "Those who are
with us are more than those who are with them."

I made the ADMITTED mistake of then copyrighting the whole.
Someone saw my copyright note and asked if that was legal. I took a
2nd look, realized I'd made a mistake, and

I APOLOGIZED.

Why do you ALWAYS FORGET the apologies and retractions, Elaine?

Because you always RETRACT your so-called 'apologies', rendering them
useless...

You are QUICK to ACCUSE those of us you DESPISE, but then you LIE,
like you did in this post, and when apologies are offered, you IGNORE
them.

I told no lies whatsoever, John.

That is not Christian behavior! That is the behavior of a psychopath.

Again, you are not qualified to attempt to diagnose anyone,
weatherless... watch that.

if ever I've seen it.

He wrote porn filth and tried to peddle it online, and even failed
miserably at that !!


????

You DO SOOoooooooooooooooooooooooo love to live in the past!



He claims to have made hundreds of thousands for his so-called
'writing'........ but I don't believe a word out of him.


And after this post full of your lies and false accusations, it's no
wonder that no one believes a word out of YOU!

YOUR problem is, Oh yes they DO. Why? Because I'm not a liar like
you.
.
User: "john w"

Title: Re: African priest 'holy' cure putting lives at risk. 07 Apr 2007 02:51:21 PM
x-no-archive: yes
On Sat, 07 Apr 2007 12:26:33 -0400,
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.

On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 15:46:04 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com>
wrote:


But we haven't seen an QUALITY writing from YOU!
Just criticism from others.
(that's called "envy")

I've written a lot of comical poems,

Now, THAT ^ ^ was funny!
and numerous REAL Haiku

concerning you, old man LEGION!!!!

a "REAL " haiku?
WOW!
And my name, fruitcake, is John, not "LEGION".

And don't break your arm trying to pat your own back, old boy- there
is absolutely NOTHING about you I would possibly be jealous of.

You don't yet get that artists MUST self-promote.
You also don't get that you are not required to read my posts.
You are also not REQUIRED to be nasty!
It would SEEM that Easter weekend MIGHT be a time to settle back,
relax, pop a bobble of good wine, and be NICE.




And my haiku (which won an award for me in 10th grade)

Christmas:

The small boy takes
his new sled out
and waits for snow.


That's not even a real Haiku.

Since WHEN do you think that YOUR view matters?
(it truly doesn't)


A REAL haiku has 5 syllables in the first line, SEVEN in the second
line, and 5 again in the third.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


Your silly thing has 4,4,and 4.

Awwwww! Now, THAT hurts!
Your opinion just... well... it means SO Much!


You call that crappola GRADE TEN material?

What was it- special ed???

Just because you don't get it, Elaine (it was over your head)
doesn't make it any less art.


REAL poetry and Haiku are not over my head, old boy- I simply don't
feel the need to compose it on a daily basis- but I just might compose
more for 'special' old you.............

Don't bother!
You are just so.... so ARROGANT, you have NO self-esteem, and you
simply will NOT allow anyone else (especially those you HATE)
to have any self-esteem, either!
tsk tsk
Thank GOD my universe doesn't revolve around YUO, and I don't depend
for my self-esteem on you, either!
;-)
And I haven't seen YOU produce any writing of any note yet!
john w



I've showed this haiku to MANY people who thought it was profound.


Uh-huh--- they must be as nutty as you then, short-bus!


I posted this one as well:

Singing In The Shower

I sang off key
I was alone
It sounded beautiful to me!


Arghhhhhhh- when will you EVER learn what a real Haiku is, old
barnacle?
The above catastrophe is 4, 4, and 8 ------ AGAIN, not a real Haiku.



I've been told more than once that this one was profound.

Yes, no doubt - profoundly idiotic.



and a 'talking Christmas tree'.......

Liar!
It was not a "talking Christmas tree".
The story was about a Christmas play (many said I plagiarized, and I
asked them to kindly post the story I copied; no one -- including
YOU-- ever posted the story I "plagiarized".)
The story was called "The Living Christmas Tree SHOUT", but it was
not about the tree shouting.
And yuo READ the story, and now SADLY, you choose to LIE about the
story!

'YUO' need to learn how to spell "YOU"............

m m


As well, he admitted a couple of years back to changing the wording to
a document he found, thereby 'claiming it as his' ------ plagiarism


AGAIN, Elaine, you lie!
I put a number of stories and articles on the web page of a friend.
One of the clips I used was a quote from the Bible. To the clip from
the Bible, I added a title I had made up.

It went like this:

"We Have Them Surrounded"

The quote was,

2KI 6:15 When the servant of the man of God got up and went out
early the next morning, an army with horses and chariots had
surrounded the city. "Oh, my lord, what shall we do?" the servant
asked.

2KI 6:16 "Don't be afraid," the prophet answered. "Those who are
with us are more than those who are with them."

I made the ADMITTED mistake of then copyrighting the whole.
Someone saw my copyright note and asked if that was legal. I took a
2nd look, realized I'd made a mistake, and

I APOLOGIZED.

Why do you ALWAYS FORGET the apologies and retractions, Elaine?

Because you always RETRACT your so-called 'apologies', rendering them
useless...


You are QUICK to ACCUSE those of us you DESPISE, but then you LIE,
like you did in this post, and when apologies are offered, you IGNORE
them.

I told no lies whatsoever, John.

That is not Christian behavior! That is the behavior of a psychopath.

Again, you are not qualified to attempt to diagnose anyone,
weatherless... watch that.

if ever I've seen it.

He wrote porn filth and tried to peddle it online, and even failed
miserably at that !!


????

You DO SOOoooooooooooooooooooooooo love to live in the past!



He claims to have made hundreds of thousands for his so-called
'writing'........ but I don't believe a word out of him.


And after this post full of your lies and false accusations, it's no
wonder that no one believes a word out of YOU!

YOUR problem is, Oh yes they DO. Why? Because I'm not a liar like
you.

.

User: "john w"

Title: Re: African priest 'holy' cure putting lives at risk. 07 Apr 2007 02:52:26 PM
x-no-archive: yes
On Sat, 07 Apr 2007 12:26:33 -0400,
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.

On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 15:46:04 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com>
wrote:


But we haven't seen an QUALITY writing from YOU!
Just criticism from others.
(that's called "envy")

I've written a lot of comical poems, and numerous REAL Haiku
concerning you, old man LEGION!!!!
And don't break your arm trying to pat your own back, old boy- there
is absolutely NOTHING about you I would possibly be jealous of.



And my haiku (which won an award for me in 10th grade)

Christmas:

The small boy takes
his new sled out
and waits for snow.


That's not even a real Haiku.

A REAL haiku has 5 syllables in the first line, SEVEN in the second
line, and 5 again in the third.

Your silly thing has 4,4,and 4.

You call that crappola GRADE TEN material?

What was it- special ed???

Just because you don't get it, Elaine (it was over your head)
doesn't make it any less art.


REAL poetry and Haiku are not over my head, old boy- I simply don't
feel the need to compose it on a daily basis- but I just might compose
more for 'special' old you.............


I've showed this haiku to MANY people who thought it was profound.


Uh-huh--- they must be as nutty as you then, short-bus!


I posted this one as well:

Singing In The Shower

I sang off key
I was alone
It sounded beautiful to me!


Arghhhhhhh- when will you EVER learn what a real Haiku is, old
barnacle?
The above catastrophe is 4, 4, and 8 ------ AGAIN, not a real Haiku.



I've been told more than once that this one was profound.

Yes, no doubt - profoundly idiotic.



and a 'talking Christmas tree'.......

Liar!
It was not a "talking Christmas tree".
The story was about a Christmas play (many said I plagiarized, and I
asked them to kindly post the story I copied; no one -- including
YOU-- ever posted the story I "plagiarized".)
The story was called "The Living Christmas Tree SHOUT", but it was
not about the tree shouting.
And yuo READ the story, and now SADLY, you choose to LIE about the
story!

'YUO' need to learn how to spell "YOU"............

You think NOTHING of YOUR MANY typos, but you throw a 500 seat PARTY
when someone ELSE makes a typo!
!!!


m m


As well, he admitted a couple of years back to changing the wording to
a document he found, thereby 'claiming it as his' ------ plagiarism


AGAIN, Elaine, you lie!
I put a number of stories and articles on the web page of a friend.
One of the clips I used was a quote from the Bible. To the clip from
the Bible, I added a title I had made up.

It went like this:

"We Have Them Surrounded"

The quote was,

2KI 6:15 When the servant of the man of God got up and went out
early the next morning, an army with horses and chariots had
surrounded the city. "Oh, my lord, what shall we do?" the servant
asked.

2KI 6:16 "Don't be afraid," the prophet answered. "Those who are
with us are more than those who are with them."

I made the ADMITTED mistake of then copyrighting the whole.
Someone saw my copyright note and asked if that was legal. I took a
2nd look, realized I'd made a mistake, and

I APOLOGIZED.

Why do you ALWAYS FORGET the apologies and retractions, Elaine?

Because you always RETRACT your so-called 'apologies', rendering them
useless...


You are QUICK to ACCUSE those of us you DESPISE, but then you LIE,
like you did in this post, and when apologies are offered, you IGNORE
them.

I told no lies whatsoever, John.

That is not Christian behavior! That is the behavior of a psychopath.

Again, you are not qualified to attempt to diagnose anyone,
weatherless... watch that.

if ever I've seen it.

He wrote porn filth and tried to peddle it online, and even failed
miserably at that !!


????

You DO SOOoooooooooooooooooooooooo love to live in the past!



He claims to have made hundreds of thousands for his so-called
'writing'........ but I don't believe a word out of him.


And after this post full of your lies and false accusations, it's no
wonder that no one believes a word out of YOU!

YOUR problem is, Oh yes they DO. Why? Because I'm not a liar like
you.

.


User: "who me?"

Title: Re: African priest 'holy' cure putting lives at risk. 08 Apr 2007 11:21:42 AM
On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 15:46:04 -0700, john w wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 14:13:21 -0400,

wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.

On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 16:29:26 GMT, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:

wrote in alt.atheism

john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:


I am a long-time professional writer, with MANY credits to my name.


ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Anybody got another IRONY METER I Can borrow?


Has he actually been published somewhere besides his own web
pages?



He claims to have 'won a poetry contest' years ago -


I've won several, actually.

Yet, nobody has been able to find any of them. Even the librarians cannot
find any references to your awards.

heaven only

knows-- he also posted some silly thing about a kid with a sled - bug
deal -


It was a haiku, for you who don't know what a haiku is.

I showed it to a published poet that I'm acquainted with, the look on his
face as well is what he had to say it was less than complementary.

You think it was silly? No surprise there!
But we haven't seen an QUALITY writing from YOU!
Just criticism from others.

I do not recall ever having seen the other person referrer to themselves as
a wordsmith or an accomplished writer. I do recall seeing those claims
from you.

(that's called "envy")

According to you, but who can trust your special definitions that are
written strictly to satisfy your mediocrity. Certainly not anyone that
thinks for themselves would be that foolish.

And my haiku (which won an award for me in 10th grade)

Was that when you were going to school in a wagon tied behind a short bus.

Christmas:

The small boy takes
his new sled out
and waits for snow.

It sucked then and it sucks now, a play on words, but it does not say
anything worth noticing. It takes more than meeting the form to make a
good for or anything else.
& the award, was it a visit to the principal for mediocrity?

Just because you don't get it, Elaine (it was over your head)
doesn't make it any less art.

Nor does your claim to have earned an award make it art.

I've showed this haiku to MANY people who thought it was profound.

I posted this one as well:

Singing In The Shower

I sang off key
I was alone
It sounded beautiful to me!

I've been told more than once that this one was profound.

I am sure you were, every time you read it to yourself when you were alone
you told yourself, that it was profound.

and a 'talking Christmas tree'.......

Liar!
It was not a "talking Christmas tree".
The story was about a Christmas play (many said I plagiarized, and I
asked them to kindly post the story I copied; no one -- including
YOU-- ever posted the story I "plagiarized".)

It was a variant on a common theme, referred to as the embarrassing moment
& was certainly indicative of writing skills beyond your demonstrated
capability.

The story was called "The Living Christmas Tree SHOUT", but it was
not about the tree shouting.
And yuo READ the story, and now SADLY, you choose to LIE about the
story!

Apparently, other people agree with me. It was so boring and childish
that one had to wonder why anybody would bother to put it on paper me as to
the mediocrity of the story.
Without the paper in front of me, I cannot even properly recall the title,
but I do recall you made a big deal about your girlfriend being Jewish. I
also recall, even though it was posted to the USENET, it was not
copyrighted.

m m

Most people do not make it a point to let others know, when they are
constipated. Recently did not have anybody fooled into thinking that you
are contemplating.


As well, he admitted a couple of years back to changing the wording to
a document he found, thereby 'claiming it as his' ------ plagiarism


AGAIN, Elaine, you lie!

it was a story about one of your heroes over in Africa, Benny Hinns [sp].
in that one you busted a copyright & claimed because you change words, you
therefore it & had not plagiarized it. I am certain should anybody take the
time and trouble, they can find more.. But in your case it's rather
similar to beating a dead horse.

I put a number of stories and articles on the web page of a friend.
One of the clips I used was a quote from the Bible. To the clip from
the Bible, I added a title I had made up.

And I suppose, this constitutes the body of your accomplished writing?
thanks for admitting you plagiarize.

It went like this:

"We Have Them Surrounded"

The quote was,

2KI 6:15 When the servant of the man of God got up and went out
early the next morning, an army with horses and chariots had
surrounded the city. "Oh, my lord, what shall we do?" the servant
asked.

2KI 6:16 "Don't be afraid," the prophet answered. "Those who are
with us are more than those who are with them."

I made the ADMITTED mistake of then copyrighting the whole.
Someone saw my copyright note and asked if that was legal. I took a
2nd look, realized I'd made a mistake, and
I APOLOGIZED.

Another worthless apology, for you've done the same thing since.

Why do you ALWAYS FORGET the apologies and retractions, Elaine?

Because they're not meant. And you do the same thing again?

You are QUICK to ACCUSE those of us you DESPISE, but then you LIE,
like you did in this post, and when apologies are offered, you IGNORE
them.

That is not Christian behavior! That is the behavior of a psychopath.

A mirror copy of you.

if ever I've seen it.

He wrote porn filth and tried to peddle it online, and even failed
miserably at that !!


????

You DO SOOoooooooooooooooooooooooo love to live in the past!

A dog returns to his vomit. He has no choice, you do. The song and dance
you performed to attempt to shuffle the authorship of those articles away
from yourself left no doubt as to who did it.
Besides, it's part of your history, the part you attempt to indicate is
of no consequence, but it is. especially since then, you are trying to
pass your off as such a good xian.

He claims to have made hundreds of thousands for his so-called
'writing'........ but I don't believe a word out of him.


And after this post full of your lies and false accusations, it's no
wonder that no one believes a word out of YOU!

Compared you, she's considered a tower of truth, and her record is not
without blemish.
Who, me?
.
User: ""

Title: Re: African priest 'holy' cure putting lives at risk. 08 Apr 2007 12:28:23 PM
On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 11:21:42 -0500, who me? <littleal@madzine.eu>
wrote:


Compared you, she's considered a tower of truth, and her record is not
without blemish.

Who, me?

No one has a totally unblemished record, Who-me.
That includes you as well.
Besides, I have never laid any claim to BE perfect.
Nevertheless, John Weatherly has on numerous occasions FALSELY accused
me of patient abuse, and no patient abuse has ever occurred in all the
years I have been in practice.
He doesn't have a pot to pee in, so essentially, it would be a waste
of time suing the crud............ nevertheless his feeble attempts at
ruining my career totally failed.
His time will come when he will regret even trying.
I have the greatest of faith that God will '
reward' him accordingly for his blustering attempts.
.

User: "john w"

Title: Re: African priest 'holy' cure putting lives at risk. 08 Apr 2007 04:57:43 PM
x-no-archive: yes
On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 11:21:42 -0500, who me? <littleal@madzine.eu>
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.

On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 15:46:04 -0700, john w wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 14:13:21 -0400,

wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.

On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 16:29:26 GMT, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:

wrote in alt.atheism

john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:


I am a long-time professional writer, with MANY credits to my name.


ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Anybody got another IRONY METER I Can borrow?


Has he actually been published somewhere besides his own web
pages?



He claims to have 'won a poetry contest' years ago -


I've won several, actually.


Yet, nobody has been able to find any of them. Even the librarians cannot
find any references to your awards.

I didn't say I am world-famous YET. And the ONE award I was referring
to, which I am going to protest, actually, came from
www.poetry.com
So, the librarians couldn't find THAT one, huh?
Perhaps your "librarians" should stop calling themselves that!
And I am attempting to have my poem / award removed from Poetry.com
because the "editor" butchered it.
I have referred SEVERAL of my friends to that web page, and then
showed them my ORIGINAL. They all concurred, "You're right. Your poem
is beautiful, and the editor DID BUTCHER it!"


heaven only

knows-- he also posted some silly thing about a kid with a sled - bug
deal -


It was a haiku, for you who don't know what a haiku is.


I showed it to a published poet that I'm acquainted with,

smirk. Am I supposed to be impressed? I am a published poet!
the look on his

face as well is what he had to say it was less than complementary.

smirk. "Sure you did!"
Are you trying to put me down? You're wasting your energy!


You think it was silly? No surprise there!
But we haven't seen an QUALITY writing from YOU!
Just criticism from others.


I do not recall ever having seen the other person referrer to themselves as
a wordsmith or an accomplished writer. I do recall seeing those claims
from you.

I have no problem calling myself an accomplished writer. I don't
recall calling myself a "wordsmith", but that's fine, too.


(that's called "envy")


According to you, but who can trust your special definitions that are
written strictly to satisfy your mediocrity.


smirk. You're truly trying too hard!
A gun would work MUCH better if you're trying to do me injury!
Certainly not anyone that

thinks for themselves would be that foolish.

And you're such a wordsmith, YOU don't know the difference between
"who" and "that".
smirk.


And my haiku (which won an award for me in 10th grade)


Was that when you were going to school in a wagon tied behind a short bus.

Very clever, Jimmy! Very clever!


Christmas:

The small boy takes
his new sled out
and waits for snow.


It sucked then and it sucks now, a play on words, but it does not say
anything worth noticing.

And who are YOU that I (or anyone) would take notice of YOU?
john w
you have used up your 5 seconds.
It takes more than meeting the form to make a

good for or anything else.
& the award, was it a visit to the principal for mediocrity?

Just because you don't get it, Elaine (it was over your head)
doesn't make it any less art.


Nor does your claim to have earned an award make it art.

I've showed this haiku to MANY people who thought it was profound.

I posted this one as well:

Singing In The Shower

I sang off key
I was alone
It sounded beautiful to me!

I've been told more than once that this one was profound.


I am sure you were, every time you read it to yourself when you were alone
you told yourself, that it was profound.

and a 'talking Christmas tree'.......

Liar!
It was not a "talking Christmas tree".
The story was about a Christmas play (many said I plagiarized, and I
asked them to kindly post the story I copied; no one -- including
YOU-- ever posted the story I "plagiarized".)


It was a variant on a common theme, referred to as the embarrassing moment
& was certainly indicative of writing skills beyond your demonstrated
capability.

The story was called "The Living Christmas Tree SHOUT", but it was
not about the tree shouting.
And yuo READ the story, and now SADLY, you choose to LIE about the
story!


Apparently, other people agree with me. It was so boring and childish
that one had to wonder why anybody would bother to put it on paper me as to
the mediocrity of the story.
Without the paper in front of me, I cannot even properly recall the title,
but I do recall you made a big deal about your girlfriend being Jewish. I
also recall, even though it was posted to the USENET, it was not
copyrighted.

m m


Most people do not make it a point to let others know, when they are
constipated. Recently did not have anybody fooled into thinking that you
are contemplating.


As well, he admitted a couple of years back to changing the wording to
a document he found, thereby 'claiming it as his' ------ plagiarism


AGAIN, Elaine, you lie!


it was a story about one of your heroes over in Africa, Benny Hinns [sp].
in that one you busted a copyright & claimed because you change words, you
therefore it & had not plagiarized it. I am certain should anybody take the
time and trouble, they can find more.. But in your case it's rather
similar to beating a dead horse.

I put a number of stories and articles on the web page of a friend.
One of the clips I used was a quote from the Bible. To the clip from
the Bible, I added a title I had made up.


And I suppose, this constitutes the body of your accomplished writing?
thanks for admitting you plagiarize.

It went like this:

"We Have Them Surrounded"

The quote was,

2KI 6:15 When the servant of the man of God got up and went out
early the next morning, an army with horses and chariots had
surrounded the city. "Oh, my lord, what shall we do?" the servant
asked.

2KI 6:16 "Don't be afraid," the prophet answered. "Those who are
with us are more than those who are with them."

I made the ADMITTED mistake of then copyrighting the whole.
Someone saw my copyright note and asked if that was legal. I took a
2nd look, realized I'd made a mistake, and


I APOLOGIZED.


Another worthless apology, for you've done the same thing since.

Why do you ALWAYS FORGET the apologies and retractions, Elaine?


Because they're not meant. And you do the same thing again?


You are QUICK to ACCUSE those of us you DESPISE, but then you LIE,
like you did in this post, and when apologies are offered, you IGNORE
them.

That is not Christian behavior! That is the behavior of a psychopath.


A mirror copy of you.

if ever I've seen it.

He wrote porn filth and tried to peddle it online, and even failed
miserably at that !!


????

You DO SOOoooooooooooooooooooooooo love to live in the past!


A dog returns to his vomit. He has no choice, you do. The song and dance
you performed to attempt to shuffle the authorship of those articles away
from yourself left no doubt as to who did it.
Besides, it's part of your history, the part you attempt to indicate is
of no consequence, but it is. especially since then, you are trying to
pass your off as such a good xian.

He claims to have made hundreds of thousands for his so-called
'writing'........ but I don't believe a word out of him.


And after this post full of your lies and false accusations, it's no
wonder that no one believes a word out of YOU!


Compared you, she's considered a tower of truth, and her record is not
without blemish.

Who, me?

.
User: ""

Title: Re: African priest 'holy' cure putting lives at risk. 08 Apr 2007 06:34:07 PM
On Sun, 08 Apr 2007 14:57:43 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com>
wrote:


So, the librarians couldn't find THAT one, huh?
Perhaps your "librarians" should stop calling themselves that!

Aw, gee- I'm the Church Librarian ----- can I help?
.

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Title: Re: African priest 'holy' cure putting lives at risk. 10 Apr 2007 08:32:18 AM
On Sun, 08 Apr 2007 14:57:43 -0700, john w wrote:

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On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 15:46:04 -0700, john w wrote:

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On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 14:13:21 -0400,

wrote:
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On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 16:29:26 GMT, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:

wrote in alt.atheism

john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:


I am a long-time professional writer, with MANY credits to my name.


ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Anybody got another IRONY METER I Can borrow?


Has he actually been published somewhere besides his own web
pages?



He claims to have 'won a poetry contest' years ago -


I've won several, actually.


Yet, nobody has been able to find any of them. Even the librarians cannot
find any references to your awards.


I didn't say I am world-famous YET. And the ONE award I was referring
to, which I am going to protest, actually, came from

Now, are you going to say you have never been published in an international
anthology & have received international awards. Seems to me you made a brag
of that nature back before you started erasing your embarrassing moments
from google.

www.poetry.com

That is not your poem, what was the title, *my god*?

So, the librarians couldn't find THAT one, huh?
Perhaps your "librarians" should stop calling themselves that!

Librarians work with published authors, which of course, you have claimed
to be. They use the Librarians Bible, a hefty tome that lists every book &
author in print. Many of which are deceased, yet, they were published. Your
name is conspicuous by its absence.

And I am attempting to have my poem / award removed from Poetry.com
because the "editor" butchered it.

I read it, no award money then?

I have referred SEVERAL of my friends to that web page, and then
showed them my ORIGINAL. They all concurred, "You're right. Your poem
is beautiful, and the editor DID BUTCHER it!"

Really, & these friends are willing to come on line, be electronically
ID's, & say that publicly? I doubt you have enough Mad Dog.


heaven only

knows-- he also posted some silly thing about a kid with a sled - bug
deal -


It was a haiku, for you who don't know what a haiku is.


I showed it to a published poet that I'm acquainted with,


smirk. Am I supposed to be impressed? I am a published poet!

Published, as in any librarian that wants to, can find his work. A
distinction that you have missed. Not to mention, publishing on line is not
the basis for being called a published author.

the look on his

face as well is what he had to say it was less than complementary.


smirk. "Sure you did!"

I'm not a poet, nor am I published. So you can shut that lie down right
now.

Are you trying to put me down? You're wasting your energy!

No one, & I mean n o one, needs to put you down. You do a better job of
that than anyone else I am aware of could.


You think it was silly? No surprise there!
But we haven't seen an QUALITY writing from YOU!
Just criticism from others.


I do not recall ever having seen the other person referrer to themselves as
a wordsmith or an accomplished writer. I do recall seeing those claims
from you.


I have no problem calling myself an accomplished writer. I don't
recall calling myself a "wordsmith", but that's fine, too.

It's inductive, sorry. For you, it follows that if you are a published [as
in paid for your tripe] writer, then you would be called a wordsmith. A
title you have yet to rise to.


(that's called "envy")


According to you, but who can trust your special definitions that are
written strictly to satisfy your mediocrity.


smirk. You're truly trying too hard!
A gun would work MUCH better if you're trying to do me injury!

You do yourself the injury with every post. It's people that know more than
you that try & stop the bleeding.

Certainly not anyone that

thinks for themselves would be that foolish.


And you're such a wordsmith, YOU don't know the difference between
"who" and "that".

I do, & you don't. Oxford agrees with me, & English is a living language.

smirk.

Filled your nappies again? Man, my kid brother could not keep up with the
***** you pass.

And my haiku (which won an award for me in 10th grade)


Was that when you were going to school in a wagon tied behind a short bus.


Very clever, Jimmy! Very clever!

I see that you lack the requisite skills to determine who is in the
conversation.


Christmas:

The small boy takes
his new sled out
and waits for snow.


It sucked then and it sucks now, a play on words, but it does not say
anything worth noticing.


And who are YOU that I (or anyone) would take notice of YOU?

A person that does not lie about who or what they are. Not that anyone
cares if you notice them of not. After all, your endorsement is the kiss of
death to a persons reputation. Unless people know better, such as in my
case.

john w

snip, the boy does n ot mind wasting the bandwidth of others when he is in
the conversation, or the center of it as the case may be from his POV.
Who, me?
.
User: "john w"

Title: Re: African priest 'holy' cure putting lives at risk. 10 Apr 2007 03:10:35 PM
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On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 16:29:26 GMT, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:

wrote in alt.atheism

john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:


I am a long-time professional writer, with MANY credits to my name.


ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Anybody got another IRONY METER I Can borrow?


Has he actually been published somewhere besides his own web
pages?



He claims to have 'won a poetry contest' years ago -


I've won several, actually.


Yet, nobody has been able to find any of them. Even the librarians cannot
find any references to your awards.


I didn't say I am world-famous YET. And the ONE award I was referring
to, which I am going to protest, actually, came from


Now, are you going to say you have never been published in an international
anthology & have received international awards.

Yes, I was published in an international collection. That wasn't the
award I just referred to. Like I said, I have won SEVERAL poetry
contests.
The "award" was not the "grand prize". The "award" was inclusion in a
collection to be published. And that's happened SEVERAL times. One
volume is out there on the shelves, now. One is supposed to be
published in the near future. I was just notified, but unless/until I
sign and send in a release, they can't publish it.
I'm not going to allow them to publish it until they get it right.
I'd rather not have it published if they are going to publish the
butchered version. That IS my right as the author/poet.
Seems to me you made a brag

of that nature back before you started erasing your embarrassing moments
from google.

I continue to not get why telling one's friends about one's
accomplishments is a "brag." I suppose you are indicating that I
shouldn't consider anyone in here "friend."
My mistake. I won't make that mistake again.


www.poetry.com


That is not your poem, what was the title, *my god*?

"ok" if you say so.
???


So, the librarians couldn't find THAT one, huh?
Perhaps your "librarians" should stop calling themselves that!


Librarians work with published authors, which of course, you have claimed
to be.

I've explained that, but then my explanation likely went WAY over your
pointed head.
When one is a staff writer for DOD, Boeing, Microsoft, Navy, etc.,
one may have MANY books, articles PUBLISHED (printed, bound,
circulated to a select audience) without those books, or articles ever
appearing on the shelf of your local library.
They use the Librarians Bible, a hefty tome that lists every book &

author in print.

Not necessarily.
Do you suppose that if someone you knew was involved in writing a
Top Secret document on a Top Secret Computer for The Department Of
Defense, there would be a reference to it at the local library?
chuckle.
You are now showing both your ARROGANCE and your IGNORANCE.
;-)
Many of which are deceased, yet, they were published. Your

name is conspicuous by its absence.

lol!
"I am mortally wounded by your words."


And I am attempting to have my poem / award removed from Poetry.com
because the "editor" butchered it.


I read it, no award money then?

If you read my poem on the Poetry.com web page, what's it called
again?


I have referred SEVERAL of my friends to that web page, and then
showed them my ORIGINAL. They all concurred, "You're right. Your poem
is beautiful, and the editor DID BUTCHER it!"


Really, & these friends are willing to come on line, be electronically
ID's, & say that publicly? I doubt you have enough Mad Dog.

???????
Are you asking if they'd bother with YOUR sorry carcass?
They yell at me because *I* bother with your sorry carcass!



heaven only

knows-- he also posted some silly thing about a kid with a sled - bug
deal -


It was a haiku, for you who don't know what a haiku is.


I showed it to a published poet that I'm acquainted with,


smirk. Am I supposed to be impressed? I am a published poet!


Published, as in any librarian that wants to, can find his work.

Try looking up the 1982 volume of the International Library of Poetry.
My entry is called "John's Prayer."
It's been published twice now.
And.... you know what?
I REALLY, TRULY have No thing to prove to you!
;-)
A

distinction that you have missed. Not to mention, publishing on line is not
the basis for being called a published author.

rotfl!
"Really?"
"I didn't know that!"


the look on his

face as well is what he had to say it was less than complementary.


smirk. "Sure you did!"


I'm not a poet, nor am I published. So you can shut that lie down right
now.

Are you trying to put me down? You're wasting your energy!


No one, & I mean n o one, needs to put you down. You do a better job of
that than anyone else I am aware of could.

hehehe
And with that feeble attempt, I leave you!
You have LONG since used up your 5 seconds!



You think it was silly? No surprise there!
But we haven't seen an QUALITY writing from YOU!
Just criticism from others.


I do not recall ever having seen the other person referrer to themselves as
a wordsmith or an accomplished writer. I do recall seeing those claims
from you.


I have no problem calling myself an accomplished writer. I don't
recall calling myself a "wordsmith", but that's fine, too.


It's inductive, sorry. For you, it follows that if you are a published [as
in paid for your tripe] writer, then you would be called a wordsmith. A
title you have yet to rise to.


(that's called "envy")


According to you, but who can trust your special definitions that are
written strictly to satisfy your mediocrity.


smirk. You're truly trying too hard!
A gun would work MUCH better if you're trying to do me injury!


You do yourself the injury with every post. It's people that know more than
you that try & stop the bleeding.

Certainly not anyone that

thinks for themselves would be that foolish.


And you're such a wordsmith, YOU don't know the difference between
"who" and "that".


I do, & you don't. Oxford agrees with me, & English is a living language.

smirk.


Filled your nappies again? Man, my kid brother could not keep up with the
***** you pass.

And my haiku (which won an award for me in 10th grade)


Was that when you were going to school in a wagon tied behind a short bus.


Very clever, Jimmy! Very clever!


I see that you lack the requisite skills to determine who is in the
conversation.


Christmas:

The small boy takes
his new sled out
and waits for snow.


It sucked then and it sucks now, a play on words, but it does not say
anything worth noticing.


And who are YOU that I (or anyone) would take notice of YOU?


A person that does not lie about who or what they are. Not that anyone
cares if you notice them of not. After all, your endorsement is the kiss of
death to a persons reputation. Unless people know better, such as in my
case.

john w


snip, the boy does n ot mind wasting the bandwidth of others when he is in
the conversation, or the center of it as the case may be from his POV.


Who, me?

.




User: "life blossom"

Title: Re: African priest 'holy' cure putting lives at risk. 08 Apr 2007 08:26:40 AM
john w <johnw wrote:

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On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 14:13:21 -0400,

wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.

On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 16:29:26 GMT, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:

wrote in alt.atheism

john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:

I am a long-time professional writer, with MANY credits to my name.

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anybody got another IRONY METER I Can borrow?

Has he actually been published somewhere besides his own web
pages?


He claims to have 'won a poetry contest' years ago -


I've won several, actually.

heaven only

knows-- he also posted some silly thing about a kid with a sled - bug
deal -


It was a haiku, for you who don't know what a haiku is.

You think it was silly? No surprise there!
But we haven't seen an QUALITY writing from YOU!
Just criticism from others.
(that's called "envy")


And my haiku (which won an award for me in 10th grade)

Christmas:

The small boy takes
his new sled out
and waits for snow.

Congratulations whoever you are, you have done IT. If you do not receive
universal kudos from the critics here, it would only be because they are
fools, idiots or children. For the most part most people are incapable
of moving beyond style, and the style that they appreciate is no style
at all. They appear to know nothing about content and they have no clue
about what the concept of "having something to SAY" means. Your poem is
truly excellent and it is your last sentence that puts the icing on the
cake. WELL DONE.... HOPE TO SEE MANY MORE!!!!!


Just because you don't get it, Elaine (it was over your head)
doesn't make it any less art.

I've showed this haiku to MANY people who thought it was profound.


I posted this one as well:

Singing In The Shower

I sang off key
I was alone
It sounded beautiful to me!

I've been told more than once that this one was profound.


and a 'talking Christmas tree'.......

Liar!
It was not a "talking Christmas tree".
The story was about a Christmas play (many said I plagiarized, and I
asked them to kindly post the story I copied; no one -- including
YOU-- ever posted the story I "plagiarized".)
The story was called "The Living Christmas Tree SHOUT", but it was
not about the tree shouting.
And yuo READ the story, and now SADLY, you choose to LIE about the
story!


m m


As well, he admitted a couple of years back to changing the wording to
a document he found, thereby 'claiming it as his' ------ plagiarism


AGAIN, Elaine, you lie!
I put a number of stories and articles on the web page of a friend.
One of the clips I used was a quote from the Bible. To the clip from
the Bible, I added a title I had made up.

It went like this:

"We Have Them Surrounded"

The quote was,

2KI 6:15 When the servant of the man of God got up and went out
early the next morning, an army with horses and chariots had
surrounded the city. "Oh, my lord, what shall we do?" the servant
asked.

2KI 6:16 "Don't be afraid," the prophet answered. "Those who are
with us are more than those who are with them."

I made the ADMITTED mistake of then copyrighting the whole.
Someone saw my copyright note and asked if that was legal. I took a
2nd look, realized I'd made a mistake, and

I APOLOGIZED.

Why do you ALWAYS FORGET the apologies and retractions, Elaine?

You are QUICK to ACCUSE those of us you DESPISE, but then you LIE,
like you did in this post, and when apologies are offered, you IGNORE
them.

That is not Christian behavior! That is the behavior of a psychopath.

if ever I've seen it.

He wrote porn filth and tried to peddle it online, and even failed
miserably at that !!


????

You DO SOOoooooooooooooooooooooooo love to live in the past!


He claims to have made hundreds of thousands for his so-called
'writing'........ but I don't believe a word out of him.


And after this post full of your lies and false accusations, it's no
wonder that no one believes a word out of YOU!


.
User: "john w"

Title: Re: African priest 'holy' cure putting lives at risk. 08 Apr 2007 04:51:31 PM
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On Sun, 08 Apr 2007 09:26:40 -0400, life blossom <lblossom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.

john w <johnw wrote:

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On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 14:13:21 -0400,

wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.

On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 16:29:26 GMT, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:

wrote in alt.atheism

john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:

I am a long-time professional writer, with MANY credits to my name.

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anybody got another IRONY METER I Can borrow?

Has he actually been published somewhere besides his own web
pages?


He claims to have 'won a poetry contest' years ago -


I've won several, actually.

heaven only

knows-- he also posted some silly thing about a kid with a sled - bug
deal -


It was a haiku, for you who don't know what a haiku is.

You think it was silly? No surprise there!
But we haven't seen an QUALITY writing from YOU!
Just criticism from others.
(that's called "envy")


And my haiku (which won an award for me in 10th grade)

Christmas:

The small boy takes
his new sled out
and waits for snow.

Congratulations whoever you are, you have done IT. If you do not receive
universal kudos from the critics here, it would only be because they are
fools, idiots or children. For the most part most people are incapable
of moving beyond style, and the style that they appreciate is no style
at all. They appear to know nothing about content and they have no clue
about what the concept of "having something to SAY" means. Your poem is
truly excellent and it is your last sentence that puts the icing on the
cake. WELL DONE.... HOPE TO SEE MANY MORE!!!!!

Thanks, lblossom!
If you are interested, I was in 10th grade English, and we were
studying various forms of poetry. The teacher-- a lover of poetry --
showed us haiku and then challenged us each to write 5 haikus.
Each student was then required to read at least one of theirs, and
most of the kids very disgustedly read this and that and the other.
They just weren't going along with the "learning about literature"
bit.
She came to me and I offered to read ALL of mine. She said, "Well,
since they have to be short, go ahead.
I don't recall which I read first, but when I got to this one,
about the little boy and his new sled, half the class burst into
laughter. The teacher asked one kid why he had laughed. He said, "it's
STUPID! It doesn't mean anything!"
He then got a short lecture about being a Neanderthal or the like.
I got to read all my poetry, and then I got kept after class. She
wanted to know my plans for my future. I said it was hard to tell in
10th grade, but I thought I would like to be a writer. Like all my
teachers, she told me I was well on my way.
I don't post MORE of my writing because there are too many in here who
would see that they were altered and then posted all over the planet.
I am waiting to publish a collection.
I am also in the process of finalizing my auto-biography. (and, yes,
I have a publisher for that, too)
God bless!


Just because you don't get it, Elaine (it was over your head)
doesn't make it any less art.

I've showed this haiku to MANY people who thought it was profound.


I posted this one as well:

Singing In The Shower

I sang off key
I was alone
It sounded beautiful to me!

I've been told more than once that this one was profound.


and a 'talking Christmas tree'.......

Liar!
It was not a "talking Christmas tree".
The story was about a Christmas play (many said I plagiarized, and I
asked them to kindly post the story I copied; no one -- including
YOU-- ever posted the story I "plagiarized".)
The story was called "The Living Christmas Tree SHOUT", but it was
not about the tree shouting.
And yuo READ the story, and now SADLY, you choose to LIE about the
story!


m m


As well, he admitted a couple of years back to changing the wording to
a document he found, thereby 'claiming it as his' ------ plagiarism


AGAIN, Elaine, you lie!
I put a number of stories and articles on the web page of a friend.
One of the clips I used was a quote from the Bible. To the clip from
the Bible, I added a title I had made up.

It went like this:

"We Have Them Surrounded"

The quote was,

2KI 6:15 When the servant of the man of God got up and went out
early the next morning, an army with horses and chariots had
surrounded the city. "Oh, my lord, what shall we do?" the servant
asked.

2KI 6:16 "Don't be afraid," the prophet answered. "Those who are
with us are more than those who are with them."

I made the ADMITTED mistake of then copyrighting the whole.
Someone saw my copyright note and asked if that was legal. I took a
2nd look, realized I'd made a mistake, and

I APOLOGIZED.

Why do you ALWAYS FORGET the apologies and retractions, Elaine?

You are QUICK to ACCUSE those of us you DESPISE, but then you LIE,
like you did in this post, and when apologies are offered, you IGNORE
them.

That is not Christian behavior! That is the behavior of a psychopath.

if ever I've seen it.

He wrote porn filth and tried to peddle it online, and even failed
miserably at that !!


????

You DO SOOoooooooooooooooooooooooo love to live in the past!


He claims to have made hundreds of thousands for his so-called
'writing'........ but I don't believe a word out of him.


And after this post full of your lies and false accusations, it's no
wonder that no one believes a word out of YOU!


.
User: ""

Title: Re: African priest 'holy' cure putting lives at risk. 08 Apr 2007 06:33:13 PM
On Sun, 08 Apr 2007 14:51:31 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com>
wrote:


Thanks, lblossom!

sockie............!~
.

User: "life blossom"

Title: Re: African priest 'holy' cure putting lives at risk. 08 Apr 2007 08:39:39 PM
john w <johnw wrote:

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On Sun, 08 Apr 2007 09:26:40 -0400, life blossom <lblossom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.

john w <johnw wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 14:13:21 -0400,

wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.

On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 16:29:26 GMT, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:

wrote in alt.atheism

john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:

I am a long-time professional writer, with MANY credits to my name.

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anybody got another IRONY METER I Can borrow?

Has he actually been published somewhere besides his own web
pages?

He claims to have 'won a poetry contest' years ago -

I've won several, actually.

heaven only

knows-- he also posted some silly thing about a kid with a sled - bug
deal -

It was a haiku, for you who don't know what a haiku is.

You think it was silly? No surprise there!
But we haven't seen an QUALITY writing from YOU!
Just criticism from others.
(that's called "envy")


And my haiku (which won an award for me in 10th grade)

Christmas:

The small boy takes
his new sled out
and waits for snow.

Congratulations whoever you are, you have done IT. If you do not receive
universal kudos from the critics here, it would only be because they are
fools, idiots or children. For the most part most people are incapable
of moving beyond style, and the style that they appreciate is no style
at all. They appear to know nothing about content and they have no clue
about what the concept of "having something to SAY" means. Your poem is
truly excellent and it is your last sentence that puts the icing on the
cake. WELL DONE.... HOPE TO SEE MANY MORE!!!!!


Thanks, lblossom!
If you are interested, I was in 10th grade English, and we were
studying various forms of poetry. The teacher-- a lover of poetry --
showed us haiku and then challenged us each to write 5 haikus.

Yes yes, very interested, you seem such an exciting young man.

Each student was then required to read at least one of theirs, and
most of the kids very disgustedly read this and that and the other.
They just weren't going along with the "learning about literature"
bit.

She came to me and I offered to read ALL of mine. She said, "Well,
since they have to be short, go ahead.

From what you've shown so far you don't have a style many can relate
with, you'll never be a Poe, but that's not all bad if you write for the
love words, and I think you do?

I don't recall which I read first, but when I got to this one,
about the little boy and his new sled, half the class burst into
laughter. The teacher asked one kid why he had laughed. He said, "it's
STUPID! It doesn't mean anything!"

Only fools and idiots would think it stupid.

He then got a short lecture about being a Neanderthal or the like.

I got to read all my poetry, and then I got kept after class. She

John, you must stop using words like "got", I'm sure know it's the sign
of a hack, real writers take the time to better express them self ads
I'm sure you've been instructed.

wanted to know my plans for my future. I said it was hard to tell in
10th grade, but I thought I would like to be a writer. Like all my
teachers, she told me I was well on my way.

Which college are you thinking of going? You should perhaps take a year
at junior college while you polish your grammar. I almost think you are
from New Jersey. Hoboken?

I don't post MORE of my writing because there are too many in here who
would see that they were altered and then posted all over the planet.

I understand, we all have our fears, you'll grow out of them hopefully
as you mature. What are you now 16, 17, by your 20's it should be over
as it is with most young artists.

I am waiting to publish a collection.

For your school yearbook?

I am also in the process of finalizing my auto-biography. (and, yes,
I have a publisher for that, too)

What, an auto-biography, do you mean you are keeping a journal for when
you are widely read/famous? I know it will sound silly to the other
children, but I'm sure only good will come from it for you. Yes John
that's a great idea, and listen to your teachers, they have done well so
far.

God bless!

Thank you, and right back at you young man!



Just because you don't get it, Elaine (it was over your head)
doesn't make it any less art.

I've showed this haiku to MANY people who thought it was profound.


I posted this one as well:

Singing In The Shower

I sang off key
I was alone
It sounded beautiful to me!

I've been told more than once that this one was profound.


and a 'talking Christmas tree'.......

Liar!
It was not a "talking Christmas tree".
The story was about a Christmas play (many said I plagiarized, and I
asked them to kindly post the story I copied; no one -- including
YOU-- ever posted the story I "plagiarized".)
The story was called "The Living Christmas Tree SHOUT", but it was
not about the tree shouting.
And yuo READ the story, and now SADLY, you choose to LIE about the
story!


m m


As well, he admitted a couple of years back to changing the wording to
a document he found, thereby 'claiming it as his' ------ plagiarism

AGAIN, Elaine, you lie!
I put a number of stories and articles on the web page of a friend.
One of the clips I used was a quote from the Bible. To the clip from
the Bible, I added a title I had made up.

It went like this:

"We Have Them Surrounded"

The quote was,

2KI 6:15 When the servant of the man of God got up and went out
early the next morning, an army with horses and chariots had
surrounded the city. "Oh, my lord, what shall we do?" the servant
asked.

2KI 6:16 "Don't be afraid," the prophet answered. "Those who are
with us are more than those who are with them."

I made the ADMITTED mistake of then copyrighting the whole.
Someone saw my copyright note and asked if that was legal. I took a
2nd look, realized I'd made a mistake, and

I APOLOGIZED.

Why do you ALWAYS FORGET the apologies and retractions, Elaine?

You are QUICK to ACCUSE those of us you DESPISE, but then you LIE,
like you did in this post, and when apologies are offered, you IGNORE
them.

That is not Christian behavior! That is the behavior of a psychopath.

if ever I've seen it.

He wrote porn filth and tried to peddle it online, and even failed
miserably at that !!

????

You DO SOOoooooooooooooooooooooooo love to live in the past!

He claims to have made hundreds of thousands for his so-called
'writing'........ but I don't believe a word out of him.

And after this post full of your lies and false accusations, it's no
wonder that no one believes a word out of YOU!



.
User: "john w"

Title: Re: African priest 'holy' cure putting lives at risk. 10 Apr 2007 02:58:10 PM
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On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 16:29:26 GMT, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:

wrote in alt.atheism

john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:

I am a long-time professional writer, with MANY credits to my name.

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anybody got another IRONY METER I Can borrow?

Has he actually been published somewhere besides his own web
pages?

He claims to have 'won a poetry contest' years ago -

I've won several, actually.

heaven only

knows-- he also posted some silly thing about a kid with a sled - bug
deal -

It was a haiku, for you who don't know what a haiku is.

You think it was silly? No surprise there!
But we haven't seen an QUALITY writing from YOU!
Just criticism from others.
(that's called "envy")


And my haiku (which won an award for me in 10th grade)

Christmas:

The small boy takes
his new sled out
and waits for snow.

Congratulations whoever you are, you have done IT. If you do not receive
universal kudos from the critics here, it would only be because they are
fools, idiots or children. For the most part most people are incapable
of moving beyond style, and the style that they appreciate is no style
at all. They appear to know nothing about content and they have no clue
about what the concept of "having something to SAY" means. Your poem is
truly excellent and it is your last sentence that puts the icing on the
cake. WELL DONE.... HOPE TO SEE MANY MORE!!!!!


Thanks, lblossom!
If you are interested, I was in 10th grade English, and we were
studying various forms of poetry. The teacher-- a lover of poetry --
showed us haiku and then challenged us each to write 5 haikus.


Yes yes, very interested, you seem such an exciting young man.

Each student was then required to read at least one of theirs, and
most of the kids very disgustedly read this and that and the other.
They just weren't going along with the "learning about literature"
bit.

She came to me and I offered to read ALL of mine. She said, "Well,
since they have to be short, go ahead.


From what you've shown so far you don't have a style many can relate
with, you'll never be a Poe, but that's not all bad if you write for the
love words, and I think you do?

Actually, I'm almost 60, and I've been making my living with my "never
be a Poe" writing for over 30 years now.
I did take the advice of my jr high and high school teachers, and my
writing has served me well.


I don't recall which I read first, but when I got to this one,
about the little boy and his new sled, half the class burst into
laughter. The teacher asked one kid why he had laughed. He said, "it's
STUPID! It doesn't mean anything!"


Only fools and idiots would think it stupid.

I agree.
I left out that the teacher told the class that they should ridicule
what they don't understand.
There was a time people ridiculed those with CP, those with Downe's
Syndrome, and the Autistic.
I've had friends with all 3 maladies, and one of my best friends in
the world turns out to be a man in his late 60s (diagnosed late in
life) who has Asperger's (adult Autism).
Too many (including too many in here) ridicule what they don't
understand, including me.
That's ok. Like cream, I rise above it.


He then got a short lecture about being a Neanderthal or the like.

I got to read all my poetry, and then I got kept after class. She


John, you must stop using words like "got", I'm sure know it's the sign
of a hack, real writers take the time to better express them self ads
I'm sure you've been instructed.

chuckle.
Kindly don't make the mistake of many, in thinking that I post
"polished" writing in here.


wanted to know my plans for my future. I said it was hard to tell in
10th grade, but I thought I would like to be a writer. Like all my
teachers, she told me I was well on my way.


Which college are you thinking of going? You should perhaps take a year
at junior college while you polish your grammar. I almost think you are
from New Jersey. Hoboken?

hehe.
funny stuff!
My BA is in Journalism, or PhotoJournalism, to be precise, from one
of the top 10 Journalism Universities in America.


I don't post MORE of my writing because there are too many in here who
would see that they were altered and then posted all over the planet.


I understand, we all have our fears, you'll grow out of them hopefully
as you mature. What are you now 16, 17, by your 20's it should be over
as it is with most young artists.

I am waiting to publish a collection.


For your school yearbook?

I am also in the process of finalizing my auto-biography. (and, yes,
I have a publisher for that, too)


What, an auto-biography, do you mean you are keeping a journal for when
you are widely read/famous? I know it will sound silly to the other
children, but I'm sure only good will come from it for you. Yes John
that's a great idea, and listen to your teachers, they have done well so
far.

God bless!


Thank you, and right back at you young man!



Just because you don't get it, Elaine (it was over your head)
doesn't make it any less art.

I've showed this haiku to MANY people who thought it was profound.


I posted this one as well:

Singing In The Shower

I sang off key
I was alone
It sounded beautiful to me!

I've been told more than once that this one was profound.


and a 'talking Christmas tree'.......

Liar!
It was not a "talking Christmas tree".
The story was about a Christmas play (many said I plagiarized, and I
asked them to kindly post the story I copied; no one -- including
YOU-- ever posted the story I "plagiarized".)
The story was called "The Living Christmas Tree SHOUT", but it was
not about the tree shouting.
And yuo READ the story, and now SADLY, you choose to LIE about the
story!


m m


As well, he admitted a couple of years back to changing the wording to
a document he found, thereby 'claiming it as his' ------ plagiarism

AGAIN, Elaine, you lie!
I put a number of stories and articles on the web page of a friend.
One of the clips I used was a quote from the Bible. To the clip from
the Bible, I added a title I had made up.

It went like this:

"We Have Them Surrounded"

The quote was,

2KI 6:15 When the servant of the man of God got up and went out
early the next morning, an army with horses and chariots had
surrounded the city. "Oh, my lord, what shall we do?" the servant
asked.

2KI 6:16 "Don't be afraid," the prophet answered. "Those who are
with us are more than those who are with them."

I made the ADMITTED mistake of then copyrighting the whole.
Someone saw my copyright note and asked if that was legal. I took a
2nd look, realized I'd made a mistake, and

I APOLOGIZED.

Why do you ALWAYS FORGET the apologies and retractions, Elaine?

You are QUICK to ACCUSE those of us you DESPISE, but then you LIE,
like you did in this post, and when apologies are offered, you IGNORE
them.

That is not Christian behavior! That is the behavior of a psychopath.

if ever I've seen it.

He wrote porn filth and tried to peddle it online, and even failed
miserably at that !!

????

You DO SOOoooooooooooooooooooooooo love to live in the past!

He claims to have made hundreds of thousands for his so-called
'writing'........ but I don't believe a word out of him.

And after this post full of your lies and false accusations, it's no
wonder that no one believes a word out of YOU!



.
User: "life blossom"

Title: Re: African priest 'holy' cure putting lives at risk. 10 Apr 2007 07:38:17 PM
john w <johnw wrote:

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john w <johnw wrote:

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On Sun, 08 Apr 2007 09:26:40 -0400, life blossom <lblossom@yahoo.com>
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john w <johnw wrote:

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On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 14:13:21 -0400,

wrote:
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On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 16:29:26 GMT, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:

wrote in alt.atheism

john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:

I am a long-time professional writer, with MANY credits to my name.

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anybody got another IRONY METER I Can borrow?

Has he actually been published somewhere besides his own web
pages?

He claims to have 'won a poetry contest' years ago -

I've won several, actually.

heaven only

knows-- he also posted some silly thing about a kid with a sled - bug
deal -

It was a haiku, for you who don't know what a haiku is.

You think it was silly? No surprise there!
But we haven't seen an QUALITY writing from YOU!
Just criticism from others.
(that's called "envy")


And my haiku (which won an award for me in 10th grade)

Christmas:

The small boy takes
his new sled out
and waits for snow.

Congratulations whoever you are, you have done IT. If you do not receive
universal kudos from the critics here, it would only be because they are
fools, idiots or children. For the most part most people are incapable
of moving beyond style, and the style that they appreciate is no style
at all. They appear to know nothing about content and they have no clue
about what the concept of "having something to SAY" means. Your poem is
truly excellent and it is your last sentence that puts the icing on the
cake. WELL DONE.... HOPE TO SEE MANY MORE!!!!!

Thanks, lblossom!
If you are interested, I was in 10th grade English, and we were
studying various forms of poetry. The teacher-- a lover of poetry --
showed us haiku and then challenged us each to write 5 haikus.

Yes yes, very interested, you seem such an exciting young man.

Each student was then required to read at least one of theirs, and
most of the kids very disgustedly read this and that and the other.
They just weren't going along with the "learning about literature"
bit.

She came to me and I offered to read ALL of mine. She said, "Well,
since they have to be short, go ahead.

From what you've shown so far you don't have a style many can relate
with, you'll never be a Poe, but that's not all bad if you write for the
love words, and I think you do?


Actually, I'm almost 60, and I've been making my living with my "never
be a Poe" writing for over 30 years now.

Actually that comes as a surprise, who'd have known with what you show here.

I did take the advice of my jr

You are missing a period on Jr.

high and high school teachers, and my writing has served me well.

I won't ask how, I'm sure no one wants to know.

I don't recall which I read first, but when I got to this one,
about the little boy and his new sled, half the class burst into
laughter. The teacher asked one kid why he had laughed. He said, "it's
STUPID! It doesn't mean anything!"

Only fools and idiots would think it stupid.


I agree.

What you have shown so far is great for a 7, 8th grader, not for a 60
year old, but what do I know?

I left out that the teacher told the class that they should ridicule
what they don't understand.
There was a time people ridiculed those with CP, those with Downe's
Syndrome, and the Autistic.
I've had friends with all 3 maladies, and one of my best friends in
the world turns out to be a man in his late 60s (diagnosed late in
life) who has Asperger's (adult Autism).

You don't have to talk down to me, or I'm sure anyone.

Too many (including too many in here) ridicule what they don't
understand, including me.

I've been reading your posts, and you say you're 60, wow!

That's ok. Like cream, I rise above it.

Your poem was good, but not that good, at best it was 2% milk (that's
just above skimmed milk if you didn't know?)!

He then got a short lecture about being a Neanderthal or the like.

I got to read all my poetry, and then I got kept after class. She

John, you must stop using words like "got", I'm sure know it's the sign
of a hack, real writers take the time to better express them self ads
I'm sure you've been instructed.


chuckle.
Kindly don't make the mistake of many, in thinking that I post
"polished" writing in here.

Anyone can see it's Polished, as in a (bad) Polish joke. I'm betting
it's your best, only a fool would write like you do and say the errors
are intentional.


wanted to know my plans for my future. I said it was hard to tell in
10th grade, but I thought I would like to be a writer. Like all my
teachers, she told me I was well on my way.

Which college are you thinking of going? You should perhaps take a year
at junior college while you polish your grammar. I almost think you are
from New Jersey. Hoboken?


hehe.

funny stuff!
My BA is in Journalism, or PhotoJournalism, to be precise, from one
of the top 10 Journalism Universities in America.

Now that is funny stuff. I'm sure they are hoping you don't advertise
for them my name! And a few classes at a junior college would help you
tremendously.


Well you seem to know more about writing than anyone else I know, good
luck to you as you stumble through the rest of your life.
Oh, and I really do like one of them little ditties, but I wouldn't go
so far as calling any of them profound.

I don't post MORE of my writing because there are too many in here who
would see that they were altered and then posted all over the planet.

I understand, we all have our fears, you'll grow out of them hopefully
as you mature. What are you now 16, 17, by your 20's it should be over
as it is with most young artists.

I am waiting to publish a collection.

For your school yearbook?

I am also in the process of finalizing my auto-biography. (and, yes,
I have a publisher for that, too)

What, an auto-biography, do you mean you are keeping a journal for when
you are widely read/famous? I know it will sound silly to the other
children, but I'm sure only good will come from it for you. Yes John
that's a great idea, and listen to your teachers, they have done well so
far.

God bless!

Thank you, and right back at you young man!


Just because you don't get it, Elaine (it was over your head)
doesn't make it any less art.

I've showed this haiku to MANY people who thought it was profound.


I posted this one as well:

Singing In The Shower

I sang off key
I was alone
It sounded beautiful to me!

I've been told more than once that this one was profound.


and a 'talking Christmas tree'.......

Liar!
It was not a "talking Christmas tree".
The story was about a Christmas play (many said I plagiarized, and I
asked them to kindly post the story I copied; no one -- including
YOU-- ever posted the story I "plagiarized".)
The story was called "Th