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Religions > Atheism |
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"johac" |
| Date: |
12 Feb 2005 03:12:44 AM |
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Alabama won't teach evolution. |
Alabama wants to promote 'scientific literacy' by omitting evolution
from its school science curriculum. All I can do is shake my head and be
very glad that I don't live there.
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Science Curriculum Approved for State
Feb. 11--Amid protest and praise, the State Board of Education approved
a revised science curriculum for Alabama schools with little mention of
evolution at its monthly board meeting Thursday morning.
Wayne Ray, superintendent of Russellville City Schools and chairman of
the science curriculum committee, said he was pleased with efforts of
his committee and the board's approval.
"I present to you a document that is developmentally sound, accurate in
content, and, when mastered by students, promotes scientific literacy,"
Ray told the state board.
Despite the committee's efforts, though, opponents like John
Schweinsberg, a Huntsville resident, said the curriculum is missing a
key science theory -- evolution.
"I believe (evolution was) left out for religious reasons," said
Schweinsberg, who said he holds a master's degree in science.
"Evolution is the basis of modern principles of biology. It's just as
basic to biology as the periodic table is to chemistry. Teaching biology
without evolution is like teaching chemistry without the periodic table."
Evolution is Darwin's theory on the origin of the human race through the
progression of time.
Schweinsberg said he compared the 2005 science curriculum to previous
years and he said it only mentions evolution once, whereas in other
years, it was mentioned throughout the curriculum.
"In Alabama and the Bible Belt, there's a lot of religious sensitivity
on this issue," Schweinsberg said. "I think basically it's easiest to
avoid it rather than confront it. The school cannot require someone to
believe something that goes against their religious beliefs, but they
should at least know (about evolution).
They still have the right to reject science for religious reasons."
On the other hand, school officials spoke in favor of the revised
curriculum. Terri Bowman, president-elect of the Alabama Science
Teachers Association, praised the majority of the curriculum -- the only
exception stemmed from the sixth- through eighth- grades. That
curriculum, she said, has some middle school teachers concerned that it
may reduce the participation of women and minority students in the
sciences.
"Change is like learning, it's painful sometimes," Ray said. "The
decision of the committee was studied long and hard -- it's the right
decision. I think it's going to be better for students of Alabama."
Ray said the committee's challenge was to help Alabama students achieve
scientific literacy.
Jim Methvin, a member of the prior two science curriculum committees and
2002 state science textbook committee, supported the curriculum changes.
He said much of the curriculum in reference to evolution remained the
same.
"Wording in content standards for evolution is just about all the same
wording used in content standards from the 1994 and 2001 course of
study," said Methvin, a Homewood resident. "(The revised curriculum)
does address its goals of scientific literacy and critical thinking
skills."
As far as classroom application of the new curriculum, Tamzen Williams,
a science teacher at Sidney Lanier High School in Montgomery, said time
-- not evolution -- will present a challenge to implementing the new
curriculum. She favors longer class periods.
"The only negative aspect that would affect the new curriculum is the
traditional schedule," said Williams, who teaches human anatomy, college
preparatory and general chemistry, and biology. "It needs to go back to
block schedule. It benefits all science classes."
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http://www.rednova.com/news/display/?id=126927
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
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| User: "Bill" |
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| Title: Re: Alabama won't teach evolution. |
12 Feb 2005 10:36:07 AM |
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I guess they will stop teaching chemistry, physics, astronomy and
anthropology also!
Can't let those kids be exposed to facts. It might destroy their "faith" in
their religion.
--
Bill
"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-73EC28.01124412022005@news.giganews.com...
Alabama wants to promote 'scientific literacy' by omitting evolution
from its school science curriculum. All I can do is shake my head and be
very glad that I don't live there.
---
Science Curriculum Approved for State
Feb. 11--Amid protest and praise, the State Board of Education approved
a revised science curriculum for Alabama schools with little mention of
evolution at its monthly board meeting Thursday morning.
Wayne Ray, superintendent of Russellville City Schools and chairman of
the science curriculum committee, said he was pleased with efforts of
his committee and the board's approval.
"I present to you a document that is developmentally sound, accurate in
content, and, when mastered by students, promotes scientific literacy,"
Ray told the state board.
Despite the committee's efforts, though, opponents like John
Schweinsberg, a Huntsville resident, said the curriculum is missing a
key science theory -- evolution.
"I believe (evolution was) left out for religious reasons," said
Schweinsberg, who said he holds a master's degree in science.
"Evolution is the basis of modern principles of biology. It's just as
basic to biology as the periodic table is to chemistry. Teaching biology
without evolution is like teaching chemistry without the periodic table."
Evolution is Darwin's theory on the origin of the human race through the
progression of time.
Schweinsberg said he compared the 2005 science curriculum to previous
years and he said it only mentions evolution once, whereas in other
years, it was mentioned throughout the curriculum.
"In Alabama and the Bible Belt, there's a lot of religious sensitivity
on this issue," Schweinsberg said. "I think basically it's easiest to
avoid it rather than confront it. The school cannot require someone to
believe something that goes against their religious beliefs, but they
should at least know (about evolution).
They still have the right to reject science for religious reasons."
On the other hand, school officials spoke in favor of the revised
curriculum. Terri Bowman, president-elect of the Alabama Science
Teachers Association, praised the majority of the curriculum -- the only
exception stemmed from the sixth- through eighth- grades. That
curriculum, she said, has some middle school teachers concerned that it
may reduce the participation of women and minority students in the
sciences.
"Change is like learning, it's painful sometimes," Ray said. "The
decision of the committee was studied long and hard -- it's the right
decision. I think it's going to be better for students of Alabama."
Ray said the committee's challenge was to help Alabama students achieve
scientific literacy.
Jim Methvin, a member of the prior two science curriculum committees and
2002 state science textbook committee, supported the curriculum changes.
He said much of the curriculum in reference to evolution remained the
same.
"Wording in content standards for evolution is just about all the same
wording used in content standards from the 1994 and 2001 course of
study," said Methvin, a Homewood resident. "(The revised curriculum)
does address its goals of scientific literacy and critical thinking
skills."
As far as classroom application of the new curriculum, Tamzen Williams,
a science teacher at Sidney Lanier High School in Montgomery, said time
-- not evolution -- will present a challenge to implementing the new
curriculum. She favors longer class periods.
"The only negative aspect that would affect the new curriculum is the
traditional schedule," said Williams, who teaches human anatomy, college
preparatory and general chemistry, and biology. "It needs to go back to
block schedule. It benefits all science classes."
---
http://www.rednova.com/news/display/?id=126927
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
.
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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| Title: Re: Alabama won't teach evolution. |
14 Feb 2005 08:43:18 AM |
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Bill wrote:
I guess they will stop teaching chemistry, physics, astronomy and
anthropology also!
Can't let those kids be exposed to facts. It might destroy their "faith" in
their religion.
Yup. Anyone who has studied chemistry, physics, astronomy and/or anthropology,
not to mention genetics, general biology or geology, will have the tools
necessary to recreate the concept of evolution, whether that concept is
actually taught or not. All of these fields contribute to the "preponderance of
evidence" that proves evolution as fact.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"[T]hose who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves;
and, under the rule of a just God, cannot long retain it."
-- Pres. George W. Bush, Hypocrite, his inauguration speech, 2005
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Alabama won't teach evolution. |
13 Feb 2005 01:08:49 AM |
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In article <XfqPd.31234$Th1.5075@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I guess they will stop teaching chemistry, physics, astronomy and
anthropology also!
Can't let those kids be exposed to facts. It might destroy their "faith" in
their religion.
They'll just replace those with Bible study.
--
Bill
"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-73EC28.01124412022005@news.giganews.com...
Alabama wants to promote 'scientific literacy' by omitting evolution
from its school science curriculum. All I can do is shake my head and be
very glad that I don't live there.
---
Science Curriculum Approved for State
http://www.rednova.com/news/display/?id=126927
--
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Alabama won't teach evolution. |
13 Feb 2005 08:53:15 PM |
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On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:36:07 GMT, "Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:
I guess they will stop teaching chemistry, physics, astronomy and
anthropology also!
Can't let those kids be exposed to facts. It might destroy their "faith" in
their religion.
Superstition Uber Alles!
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Alabama won't teach evolution. |
13 Feb 2005 11:13:05 PM |
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In article <ek4011ph6nc1o761vttpqjeobusc2c585k@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:36:07 GMT, "Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:
I guess they will stop teaching chemistry, physics, astronomy and
anthropology also!
Can't let those kids be exposed to facts. It might destroy their "faith" in
their religion.
Superstition Uber Alles!
Science is a creation of the Devil to deceive good little xtian kids.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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13 Feb 2005 11:29:49 PM |
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On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 21:13:05 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> said in
alt.atheism:
Science is a creation of the Devil to deceive good little xtian kids.
Well, of course. Their god created everything - except for those
things Satan created. And sneaky Satan took all references to that
last bit out of the bible just to fool us.
--
rukbat at verizon dot net
"I've heard the call. I believe God wants me to run for president."
- George W. Bush, quoted in George Magazine, September, 2000
"God gave the savior to the German people. We have faith,
deep and unshakeable faith, that he was sent to us by
God to save Germany."
- Hermann Goering, speaking of Hitler
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Alabama won't teach evolution. |
15 Feb 2005 01:15:17 AM |
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In article <fod011dl20u19beirofmlthub164vst2ri@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 21:13:05 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> said in
alt.atheism:
Science is a creation of the Devil to deceive good little xtian kids.
Well, of course. Their god created everything - except for those
things Satan created. And sneaky Satan took all references to that
last bit out of the bible just to fool us.
And GAWD let him do it just to test us. Now who are you gonna' believe
Gawdamighty or some dinky little fossil?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Alabama won't teach evolution. |
14 Feb 2005 05:16:00 PM |
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On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 21:13:05 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <ek4011ph6nc1o761vttpqjeobusc2c585k@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:36:07 GMT, "Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:
I guess they will stop teaching chemistry, physics, astronomy and
anthropology also!
Can't let those kids be exposed to facts. It might destroy their "faith" in
their religion.
Superstition Uber Alles!
Science is a creation of the Devil to deceive good little xtian kids.
I'm wondering when the lit crosses will be burned on atheist property
and atheist businesses will have window shattered.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Alabama won't teach evolution. |
15 Feb 2005 01:12:56 AM |
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In article <m7c211tlvq8osei29hogb1jvgbd4qemeoc@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 21:13:05 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <ek4011ph6nc1o761vttpqjeobusc2c585k@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:36:07 GMT, "Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:
I guess they will stop teaching chemistry, physics, astronomy and
anthropology also!
Can't let those kids be exposed to facts. It might destroy their "faith"
in
their religion.
Superstition Uber Alles!
Science is a creation of the Devil to deceive good little xtian kids.
I'm wondering when the lit crosses will be burned on atheist property
and atheist businesses will have window shattered.
I'm more worried about when they will start burning atheists.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Alabama won't teach evolution. |
15 Feb 2005 11:13:46 AM |
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:12:56 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <m7c211tlvq8osei29hogb1jvgbd4qemeoc@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 21:13:05 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <ek4011ph6nc1o761vttpqjeobusc2c585k@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:36:07 GMT, "Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:
I guess they will stop teaching chemistry, physics, astronomy and
anthropology also!
Can't let those kids be exposed to facts. It might destroy their "faith"
in
their religion.
Superstition Uber Alles!
Science is a creation of the Devil to deceive good little xtian kids.
I'm wondering when the lit crosses will be burned on atheist property
and atheist businesses will have window shattered.
I'm more worried about when they will start burning atheists.
The crosses and such will be precursors.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Alabama won't teach evolution. |
17 Feb 2005 12:57:01 AM |
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In article <gdb411tuo9oin8ouls7284pi1i6f1v0i6q@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:12:56 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <m7c211tlvq8osei29hogb1jvgbd4qemeoc@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 21:13:05 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <ek4011ph6nc1o761vttpqjeobusc2c585k@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:36:07 GMT, "Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:
I guess they will stop teaching chemistry, physics, astronomy and
anthropology also!
Can't let those kids be exposed to facts. It might destroy their
"faith"
in
their religion.
Superstition Uber Alles!
Science is a creation of the Devil to deceive good little xtian kids.
I'm wondering when the lit crosses will be burned on atheist property
and atheist businesses will have window shattered.
I'm more worried about when they will start burning atheists.
The crosses and such will be precursors.
"Wherever they burn books, they will also end up burning people. " -
Heinrich Heine
I suppose it's the same with crosses.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Alabama won't teach evolution. |
17 Feb 2005 10:30:20 AM |
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 22:57:01 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <gdb411tuo9oin8ouls7284pi1i6f1v0i6q@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:12:56 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <m7c211tlvq8osei29hogb1jvgbd4qemeoc@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 21:13:05 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <ek4011ph6nc1o761vttpqjeobusc2c585k@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:36:07 GMT, "Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:
I guess they will stop teaching chemistry, physics, astronomy and
anthropology also!
Can't let those kids be exposed to facts. It might destroy their
"faith"
in
their religion.
Superstition Uber Alles!
Science is a creation of the Devil to deceive good little xtian kids.
I'm wondering when the lit crosses will be burned on atheist property
and atheist businesses will have window shattered.
I'm more worried about when they will start burning atheists.
The crosses and such will be precursors.
"Wherever they burn books, they will also end up burning people. " -
Heinrich Heine
I suppose it's the same with crosses.
Such is Christian 'love.'
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Alabama won't teach evolution. |
18 Feb 2005 12:40:09 AM |
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In article <7kh9111eoku9nfm20tno69tctu96q9af6f@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 22:57:01 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <gdb411tuo9oin8ouls7284pi1i6f1v0i6q@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:12:56 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <m7c211tlvq8osei29hogb1jvgbd4qemeoc@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 21:13:05 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <ek4011ph6nc1o761vttpqjeobusc2c585k@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:36:07 GMT, "Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:
I guess they will stop teaching chemistry, physics, astronomy and
anthropology also!
Can't let those kids be exposed to facts. It might destroy their
"faith"
in
their religion.
Superstition Uber Alles!
Science is a creation of the Devil to deceive good little xtian kids.
I'm wondering when the lit crosses will be burned on atheist property
and atheist businesses will have window shattered.
I'm more worried about when they will start burning atheists.
The crosses and such will be precursors.
"Wherever they burn books, they will also end up burning people. " -
Heinrich Heine
I suppose it's the same with crosses.
Such is Christian 'love.'
And they love us so much that they want to love us to death.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Alabama won't teach evolution. |
18 Feb 2005 01:37:29 PM |
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 22:40:09 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <7kh9111eoku9nfm20tno69tctu96q9af6f@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 22:57:01 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <gdb411tuo9oin8ouls7284pi1i6f1v0i6q@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:12:56 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <m7c211tlvq8osei29hogb1jvgbd4qemeoc@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 21:13:05 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <ek4011ph6nc1o761vttpqjeobusc2c585k@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:36:07 GMT, "Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:
I guess they will stop teaching chemistry, physics, astronomy and
anthropology also!
Can't let those kids be exposed to facts. It might destroy their
"faith"
in
their religion.
Superstition Uber Alles!
Science is a creation of the Devil to deceive good little xtian kids.
I'm wondering when the lit crosses will be burned on atheist property
and atheist businesses will have window shattered.
I'm more worried about when they will start burning atheists.
The crosses and such will be precursors.
"Wherever they burn books, they will also end up burning people. " -
Heinrich Heine
I suppose it's the same with crosses.
Such is Christian 'love.'
And they love us so much that they want to love us to death.
In the slowest and most agonizing way inhumanly possible.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Alabama won't teach evolution. |
19 Feb 2005 01:22:48 AM |
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In article <iugc111qrn3jbbttbb3q7ejabqv71b21hn@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 22:40:09 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <7kh9111eoku9nfm20tno69tctu96q9af6f@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 22:57:01 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <gdb411tuo9oin8ouls7284pi1i6f1v0i6q@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:12:56 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <m7c211tlvq8osei29hogb1jvgbd4qemeoc@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 21:13:05 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <ek4011ph6nc1o761vttpqjeobusc2c585k@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:36:07 GMT, "Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:
I guess they will stop teaching chemistry, physics, astronomy
and
anthropology also!
Can't let those kids be exposed to facts. It might destroy their
"faith"
in
their religion.
Superstition Uber Alles!
Science is a creation of the Devil to deceive good little xtian
kids.
I'm wondering when the lit crosses will be burned on atheist
property
and atheist businesses will have window shattered.
I'm more worried about when they will start burning atheists.
The crosses and such will be precursors.
"Wherever they burn books, they will also end up burning people. " -
Heinrich Heine
I suppose it's the same with crosses.
Such is Christian 'love.'
And they love us so much that they want to love us to death.
In the slowest and most agonizing way inhumanly possible.
Slow because they're just giving us more time to get 'saved'.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Alabama won't teach evolution. |
19 Feb 2005 10:49:48 AM |
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:22:48 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <iugc111qrn3jbbttbb3q7ejabqv71b21hn@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 22:40:09 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <7kh9111eoku9nfm20tno69tctu96q9af6f@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 22:57:01 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <gdb411tuo9oin8ouls7284pi1i6f1v0i6q@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:12:56 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <m7c211tlvq8osei29hogb1jvgbd4qemeoc@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 21:13:05 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <ek4011ph6nc1o761vttpqjeobusc2c585k@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:36:07 GMT, "Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:
I guess they will stop teaching chemistry, physics, astronomy
and
anthropology also!
Can't let those kids be exposed to facts. It might destroy their
"faith"
in
their religion.
Superstition Uber Alles!
Science is a creation of the Devil to deceive good little xtian
kids.
I'm wondering when the lit crosses will be burned on atheist
property
and atheist businesses will have window shattered.
I'm more worried about when they will start burning atheists.
The crosses and such will be precursors.
"Wherever they burn books, they will also end up burning people. " -
Heinrich Heine
I suppose it's the same with crosses.
Such is Christian 'love.'
And they love us so much that they want to love us to death.
In the slowest and most agonizing way inhumanly possible.
Slow because they're just giving us more time to get 'saved'.
Of course, and all the white splatter marks on the walls don't mean
anything.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Alabama won't teach evolution. |
20 Feb 2005 01:48:45 AM |
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In article <ofre111igg64nosddqe5nenhc0bno8m2v8@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:22:48 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <iugc111qrn3jbbttbb3q7ejabqv71b21hn@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 22:40:09 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <7kh9111eoku9nfm20tno69tctu96q9af6f@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 22:57:01 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <gdb411tuo9oin8ouls7284pi1i6f1v0i6q@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:12:56 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <m7c211tlvq8osei29hogb1jvgbd4qemeoc@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 21:13:05 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com>
wrote:
In article <ek4011ph6nc1o761vttpqjeobusc2c585k@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:36:07 GMT, "Bill"
<wmech@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:
I guess they will stop teaching chemistry, physics, astronomy
and
anthropology also!
Can't let those kids be exposed to facts. It might destroy
their
"faith"
in
their religion.
Superstition Uber Alles!
Science is a creation of the Devil to deceive good little xtian
kids.
I'm wondering when the lit crosses will be burned on atheist
property
and atheist businesses will have window shattered.
I'm more worried about when they will start burning atheists.
The crosses and such will be precursors.
"Wherever they burn books, they will also end up burning people. " -
Heinrich Heine
I suppose it's the same with crosses.
Such is Christian 'love.'
And they love us so much that they want to love us to death.
In the slowest and most agonizing way inhumanly possible.
Slow because they're just giving us more time to get 'saved'.
Of course, and all the white splatter marks on the walls don't mean
anything.
Not a thing.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
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| User: "MarkA" |
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| Title: Re: Alabama won't teach evolution. |
14 Feb 2005 10:17:20 AM |
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On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 01:12:44 -0800, johac wrote:
Alabama wants to promote 'scientific literacy' by omitting evolution from
its school science curriculum. All I can do is shake my head and be very
glad that I don't live there.
Over the weekend, I heard a piece on the radio about a local PBS chapter
in Alabama that won't air an episode of "Postcards from Buster", because
the children in the episode have lesbian parents. The episode isn't about
homosexuality, or anything like that, they are just part of the background.
However, that is too controversial for them. Fifty years ago, an
inter-racial couple would have been just as offensive, and possibly still
is.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: Alabama won't teach evolution. |
12 Feb 2005 02:04:30 PM |
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johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in news:jhachm-
73EC28.01124412022005@news.giganews.com:
Subject: Alabama won't teach evolution.
That's okay, they're devolving anyway.
--
Dr. Smartass -- BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
Hurl, hurl, door gong's oil hair!
Wart inhale dough way cur?
Wart inhale dough way cur?
Hurl, hurl, door gong's oil hair!
Wart inhale dough way cur, nor?
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Alabama won't teach evolution. |
13 Feb 2005 01:06:37 AM |
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In article <Xns95FB8EF4682C9askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in news:jhachm-
73EC28.01124412022005@news.giganews.com:
Subject: Alabama won't teach evolution.
That's okay, they're devolving anyway.
At the rate they are going they should be growing prehensile tails any
day now.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: Alabama won't teach evolution. |
13 Feb 2005 03:23:53 PM |
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johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in news:jhachm-
9C3589.23063712022005@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns95FB8EF4682C9askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in news:jhachm-
73EC28.01124412022005@news.giganews.com:
Subject: Alabama won't teach evolution.
That's okay, they're devolving anyway.
At the rate they are going they should be growing prehensile tails any
day now.
All the better to hold a bible with...or whip yer children...
--
Dr. Smartass -- BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
Hurl, hurl, door gong's oil hair!
Wart inhale dough way cur?
Wart inhale dough way cur?
Hurl, hurl, door gong's oil hair!
Wart inhale dough way cur, nor?
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Alabama won't teach evolution. |
13 Feb 2005 11:16:54 PM |
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In article <Xns95FC9DB85E53Faskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in news:jhachm-
9C3589.23063712022005@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns95FB8EF4682C9askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in news:jhachm-
73EC28.01124412022005@news.giganews.com:
Subject: Alabama won't teach evolution.
That's okay, they're devolving anyway.
At the rate they are going they should be growing prehensile tails any
day now.
All the better to hold a bible with...or whip yer children...
According to their Babble, I thought that you were stone them if they
get too uppity.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: Alabama won't teach evolution. |
14 Feb 2005 06:43:48 PM |
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johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-3799EA.21165413022005@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns95FC9DB85E53Faskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in news:jhachm-
9C3589.23063712022005@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns95FB8EF4682C9askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in news:jhachm-
73EC28.01124412022005@news.giganews.com:
Subject: Alabama won't teach evolution.
That's okay, they're devolving anyway.
At the rate they are going they should be growing prehensile tails
any day now.
All the better to hold a bible with...or whip yer children...
According to their Babble, I thought that you were stone them if they
get too uppity.
Prehensile stone-thrower. Good for any glass house!
--
Dr. Smartass -- BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
Hurl, hurl, door gong's oil hair!
Wart inhale dough way cur?
Wart inhale dough way cur?
Hurl, hurl, door gong's oil hair!
Wart inhale dough way cur, nor?
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Alabama won't teach evolution. |
15 Feb 2005 01:17:05 AM |
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In article <Xns95FDBEE72C436askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-3799EA.21165413022005@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns95FC9DB85E53Faskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in news:jhachm-
9C3589.23063712022005@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns95FB8EF4682C9askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in news:jhachm-
73EC28.01124412022005@news.giganews.com:
Subject: Alabama won't teach evolution.
That's okay, they're devolving anyway.
At the rate they are going they should be growing prehensile tails
any day now.
All the better to hold a bible with...or whip yer children...
According to their Babble, I thought that you were stone them if they
get too uppity.
Prehensile stone-thrower. Good for any glass house!
It's a good thing that they don't live in glass houses or they'd be up
to their eyeballs in shards.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Alabama won't teach evolution. |
15 Feb 2005 11:14:49 AM |
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:17:05 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <Xns95FDBEE72C436askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-3799EA.21165413022005@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns95FC9DB85E53Faskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in news:jhachm-
9C3589.23063712022005@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns95FB8EF4682C9askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in news:jhachm-
73EC28.01124412022005@news.giganews.com:
Subject: Alabama won't teach evolution.
That's okay, they're devolving anyway.
At the rate they are going they should be growing prehensile tails
any day now.
All the better to hold a bible with...or whip yer children...
According to their Babble, I thought that you were stone them if they
get too uppity.
Prehensile stone-thrower. Good for any glass house!
It's a good thing that they don't live in glass houses or they'd be up
to their eyeballs in shards.
Them being past their eyeballs in glass shards would be not good in
what way?
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Alabama won't teach evolution. |
17 Feb 2005 12:47:25 AM |
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In article <2fb411h1pr5advlq5c04igc41cpihsdb30@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:17:05 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <Xns95FDBEE72C436askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-3799EA.21165413022005@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns95FC9DB85E53Faskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in news:jhachm-
9C3589.23063712022005@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns95FB8EF4682C9askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in news:jhachm-
73EC28.01124412022005@news.giganews.com:
Subject: Alabama won't teach evolution.
That's okay, they're devolving anyway.
At the rate they are going they should be growing prehensile tails
any day now.
All the better to hold a bible with...or whip yer children...
According to their Babble, I thought that you were stone them if they
get too uppity.
Prehensile stone-thrower. Good for any glass house!
It's a good thing that they don't live in glass houses or they'd be up
to their eyeballs in shards.
Them being past their eyeballs in glass shards would be not good in
what way?
Heh! At least it would keep them away from us. I mean if you were butied
up to your eyebrows in glass shards, I don' think that you'd want to
move too fast.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Alabama won't teach evolution. |
17 Feb 2005 10:31:07 AM |
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 22:47:25 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <2fb411h1pr5advlq5c04igc41cpihsdb30@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:17:05 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <Xns95FDBEE72C436askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-3799EA.21165413022005@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns95FC9DB85E53Faskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in news:jhachm-
9C3589.23063712022005@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns95FB8EF4682C9askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in news:jhachm-
73EC28.01124412022005@news.giganews.com:
Subject: Alabama won't teach evolution.
That's okay, they're devolving anyway.
At the rate they are going they should be growing prehensile tails
any day now.
All the better to hold a bible with...or whip yer children...
According to their Babble, I thought that you were stone them if they
get too uppity.
Prehensile stone-thrower. Good for any glass house!
It's a good thing that they don't live in glass houses or they'd be up
to their eyeballs in shards.
Them being past their eyeballs in glass shards would be not good in
what way?
Heh! At least it would keep them away from us. I mean if you were butied
up to your eyebrows in glass shards, I don' think that you'd want to
move too fast.
They're the kindest cuts of all....
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Alabama won't teach evolution. |
18 Feb 2005 12:40:26 AM |
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In article <glh911hk94sv8qms4ijgp73uehs67jridd@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 22:47:25 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <2fb411h1pr5advlq5c04igc41cpihsdb30@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:17:05 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <Xns95FDBEE72C436askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-3799EA.21165413022005@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns95FC9DB85E53Faskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in news:jhachm-
9C3589.23063712022005@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns95FB8EF4682C9askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in news:jhachm-
73EC28.01124412022005@news.giganews.com:
Subject: Alabama won't teach evolution.
That's okay, they're devolving anyway.
At the rate they are going they should be growing prehensile tails
any day now.
All the better to hold a bible with...or whip yer children...
According to their Babble, I thought that you were stone them if they
get too uppity.
Prehensile stone-thrower. Good for any glass house!
It's a good thing that they don't live in glass houses or they'd be up
to their eyeballs in shards.
Them being past their eyeballs in glass shards would be not good in
what way?
Heh! At least it would keep them away from us. I mean if you were butied
up to your eyebrows in glass shards, I don' think that you'd want to
move too fast.
They're the kindest cuts of all....
Yep.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
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