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05 May 2006 12:44:56 PM |
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Alito's presence already felt in Ten Commandments cases |
Alito's presence already felt in Ten Commandments cases
http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?ID=23176
BP News - Nashville,TN,USA
[excerpts]
WASHINGTON (BP)--Social conservatives may still be waiting for that
critical fifth vote at the U.S. Supreme Court on the abortion issue, but --
thanks mostly to the confirmation of Justice Samuel Alito -- they might
already have a winning majority on a number of religious liberty issues,
including much-embattled Ten Commandments displays.
In the months since they lost at the U.S. Supreme Court, conservatives have
tallied a number of Ten Commandments victories. In April, the U.S. Sixth
Circuit Court of Appeals, in a 9-5 ruling, upheld the constitutionality of
a Ten Commandments display that was part of a larger historical context in
a Mercer County, Ky., courthouse. Last August, the U.S. Eighth Circuit
voted 11-2 to uphold a stand-alone Ten Commandments monument that resided
in a Plattsmouth, Neb., city park. The American Civil Liberties Union,
which brought both of the cases, chose not to appeal the Eighth Circuit
decision and hasn?t said it if would appeal the Mercer County, Ky., ruling.
In addition, governors in Georgia and Kentucky signed bills in April
allowing the display of the Ten Commandments in public settings.
[snip]
.... In that ruling, Judge Richard Suhrheinrich called the ACLU's
reference's to the “the separation of church and state" an
“extra-constitutional construct ...
[end excerpts]
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You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads [Virginia] SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members, there are members from
all over the US and a couple from overseas as well]
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.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
.. . .
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USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote
"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
*****************************************************************
THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
****************************************************************
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| User: "fred" |
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| Title: Re: Alito's presence already felt in Ten Commandments cases |
06 May 2006 08:52:24 PM |
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wrote:
<snipped for brevity>
... In that ruling, Judge Richard Suhrheinrich called the ACLU's
reference's to the "the separation of church and state" an
"extra-constitutional construct ...
[end excerpts]
If secularists think that they have the license to force Jefferson's
"wall of separation" words from a private letter into the establishment
clause then secularists can't complain if Christians want to read
Jefferson's "Nature's God" and "Creator," a Biblical term for God, from
the Declaration of Independence into the 10th Amendment protected
powers of the states to legislate relgion.
***************************************************************
You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS =B7 Hampton Roads [Virginia] SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members, there are members from
all over the US and a couple from overseas as well]
***************************************************************
. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why =
"a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisne=
r,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
. . .
****************************************************************
USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote
"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
*****************************************************************
THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
****************************************************************
.
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| User: "Emmanual Kann" |
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| Title: Re: Alito's presence already felt in Ten Commandments cases |
06 May 2006 10:59:16 PM |
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An Sat, 06 May 2006 18:52:24 -0700, fred hat geschreibt:
buckeye-elo@nospam.net wrote:
<snipped for brevity>
... In that ruling, Judge Richard Suhrheinrich called the ACLU's
reference's to the "the separation of church and state" an
"extra-constitutional construct ...
[end excerpts]
If secularists think that they have the license to force Jefferson's
"wall of separation" words from a private letter into the establishment
clause then secularists can't complain if Christians want to read
Jefferson's "Nature's God" and "Creator," a Biblical term for God, from
the Declaration of Independence into the 10th Amendment protected
powers of the states to legislate relgion.
That ignores the 14th amendment which takes away a states right to violate
the first amendment.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Alito's presence already felt in Ten Commandments cases |
07 May 2006 09:25:11 AM |
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Previously, on alt.atheism, Emmanual Kann in episode
<pan.2006.05.07.03.59.06.585375@keinspam.de>...
An Sat, 06 May 2006 18:52:24 -0700, fred hat geschreibt:
buckeye-elo@nospam.net wrote:
<snipped for brevity>
... In that ruling, Judge Richard Suhrheinrich called the ACLU's
reference's to the "the separation of church and state" an
"extra-constitutional construct ...
[end excerpts]
If secularists think that they have the license to force Jefferson's
"wall of separation" words from a private letter into the establishment
clause then secularists can't complain if Christians want to read
Jefferson's "Nature's God" and "Creator," a Biblical term for God, from
the Declaration of Independence into the 10th Amendment protected powers
of the states to legislate relgion.
That ignores the 14th amendment which takes away a states right to violate
the first amendment.
"fred" doesn't believe it's possible to amend the Constitution more than
ten times...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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