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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Josef Balluch"
Date: 25 Dec 2003 10:23:32 PM
Object: All He Wants For Christmas Is ....
http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/7571702.htm
Sez there that the pope asked Christ to save the world from war and
terrorism.
< innocent expression >
How come no Christian ever thought of this before?
< /innocent expression >
Regards,
Josef
All great truths begin as blasphemies.
-- George Bernard Shaw
.

User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: All He Wants For Christmas Is .... 26 Dec 2003 04:59:19 PM
On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:23:32 -0500, Josef Balluch
<josef.balluch@sympatico.can> posted to alt.atheism:

http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/7571702.htm
Sez there that the pope asked Christ to save the world from war and
terrorism.

If even the Pope can't get his prayers answered, why does anyone
bother to pray?
--
"To assume the existence of an unperceivable being ... does not facilitate understanding
the orderliness we find in the perceivable world."
- Letter to an Iowa student who asked, What is God? July, 1953; Einstein Archive 59-085
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rukbat at optonline dot net
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User: "Beowulf"

Title: Re: Re: All He Wants For Christmas Is .... 30 Dec 2003 11:59:59 AM
On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 17:59:19 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
ejaculated:

On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:23:32 -0500, Josef Balluch
<josef.balluch@sympatico.can> posted to alt.atheism:

http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/7571702.htm


Sez there that the pope asked Christ to save the world from war and
terrorism.


If even the Pope can't get his prayers answered, why does anyone
bother to pray?

Well, Al, everyone knows that Catholics are going to hell because they
don't ***** god right. Only born-again, Holy Spirit filled Baptists go
to heaven. You really need to read your Chick tracts more closely.
--
Jesus is my crush.
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User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: All He Wants For Christmas Is .... 30 Dec 2003 05:21:43 PM
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 12:59:59 -0500, Beowulf
<beowulf_is_not_here@hotmail.com> posted to alt.atheism:

Well, Al, everyone knows that Catholics are going to hell because they
don't ***** god right. Only born-again, Holy Spirit filled Baptists go
to heaven. You really need to read your Chick tracts more closely.

I thought Holy Rollers considered Baptists to be apostates.
--
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious
conviction."
- Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)
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rukbat at optonline dot net
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User: "Beowulf"

Title: Re: Re: All He Wants For Christmas Is .... 31 Dec 2003 11:05:45 AM
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 18:21:43 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
ejaculated:

On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 12:59:59 -0500, Beowulf
<beowulf_is_not_here@hotmail.com> posted to alt.atheism:

Well, Al, everyone knows that Catholics are going to hell because they
don't ***** god right. Only born-again, Holy Spirit filled Baptists go
to heaven. You really need to read your Chick tracts more closely.


I thought Holy Rollers considered Baptists to be apostates.

Yes, and vice versa. The funny thing is that both
Pentacostals/Charismatics/AoG weirdos and Baptists both use the phrase
"born-again spirit-filled" they just mean different things by it and
are very vocal in condemning the other for their "faulty" use of the
term.
Celsus definitely hit the nail on the head.
--
Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other.
They slander each other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse
and cannot come to any sort of agreement in their teachings. Each
sect brands its own, fills the head of its own with deceitful
nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it wins over to
its side." -- Celsus (2nd century C.E.)
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User: "Roger Pearse"

Title: Re: All He Wants For Christmas Is .... 10 Jan 2004 02:39:06 PM
Beowulf <beowulf_is_not_here@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<d606vv8g2p8927b8775b2j9cpmh7r8et1s@4ax.com>...

Celsus definitely hit the nail on the head.

The citation is by a 1980's writer called R.J.Hoffmann, not the
ancient philospher Celsus. He did a fake 'translation', but rewrote
it to serve his own purposes.
<http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/celsus/celsus.htm>
All the best,
Roger Pearse
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User: "Beowulf"

Title: Re: Re: All He Wants For Christmas Is .... 12 Jan 2004 09:22:14 AM
On 10 Jan 2004 12:39:06 -0800,
(Roger Pearse)
ejaculated:

Beowulf <beowulf_is_not_here@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<d606vv8g2p8927b8775b2j9cpmh7r8et1s@4ax.com>...

Celsus definitely hit the nail on the head.

OK, RJ Hoffmann definitely hit the nail on the head. The substance of
the quote has little to do with who wrote it.

The citation is by a 1980's writer called R.J.Hoffmann, not the
ancient philospher Celsus. He did a fake 'translation', but rewrote
it to serve his own purposes.

<http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/celsus/celsus.htm>

Thanks for the reference. I'll update my sig to point to Hoffmann.
--
"Resurrection is for those who didn't get it right the first time."
- Otep, "Sacrilege"
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User: "Roger Pearse"

Title: Re: All He Wants For Christmas Is .... 12 Jan 2004 01:39:55 PM
Beowulf <beowulf_is_not_here@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<roe500ptthsc2rl6ulviij0n1h07m0hdnq@4ax.com>...

On 10 Jan 2004 12:39:06 -0800,

(Roger Pearse)
ejaculated:

Beowulf <beowulf_is_not_here@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<d606vv8g2p8927b8775b2j9cpmh7r8et1s@4ax.com>...

Celsus definitely hit the nail on the head.


OK, RJ Hoffmann definitely hit the nail on the head. The substance of
the quote has little to do with who wrote it.

The citation is by a 1980's writer called R.J.Hoffmann, not the
ancient philospher Celsus. He did a fake 'translation', but rewrote
it to serve his own purposes.

<http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/celsus/celsus.htm>


Thanks for the reference. I'll update my sig to point to Hoffmann.

Glad to help. I think I do give the Hoffmann page ref on my page, if that helps.
All the best,
Roger Pearse
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