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All human life is sacred |
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19 Nov 2007 10:29:19 PM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Except the human lives that the nazi turd kills or wants to kill.
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19 Nov 2007 02:23:16 PM |
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19 Nov 2007 03:57:12 PM |
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On 19 Nov., 21:08, "J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
http://www.pop.org/
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Sure J Young, sure. Except Jews, Muslims, Japanese, Mexicans,
democrats, women, homosexuals...
Is your life *that* pathetic that you have to send such lame postings
just to get attention?
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20 Nov 2007 10:28:30 AM |
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On 19 nov, 21:08, "J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
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Nothing is sacred.
Having things sacred is clouding one's judgement.
Of course we regard human life as precious
it's only human to do so, and we are human.
But what is "human life"
Does it mean:
1. Anything containing human DNA
or does it mean:
2. Anyhing containing a conscious human brain?
(That is a brain that in the future can be expected to remember
itself the past)
If the first is true, DNA testing should be illegal
(because it kills human cells!)
so it is a very poor choice.
My choice is the second one
Such a life is still not sacred.
Or else we should abandon the army and gun-wearing policemen,
but it is rather precious.
Peter van Velzen
November 2007
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
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19 Nov 2007 02:31:38 PM |
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:08:53 -0500, J Young wrote:
All human life is sacred
Except for anybody you don't like.
By the way, in your headers:
Organization: neverwrong.org
Get a grip freak.
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EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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19 Nov 2007 02:30:56 PM |
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On Nov 19, 1:08 pm, "J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
http://www.pop.org/
No, all human life *isn't* sacred. What's more, claiming that human
life is "sacred" implies that it's worth more than the lives of other
life forms, rendering the claim grossly immoral.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
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| User: "CE" |
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19 Nov 2007 07:53:09 PM |
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On Nov 19, 4:30 pm, skyeyes <skye...@dakotacom.net> wrote:
On Nov 19, 1:08 pm, "J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
http://www.pop.org/
No, all human life *isn't* sacred. What's more, claiming that human
life is "sacred" implies that it's worth more than the lives of other
life forms, rendering the claim grossly immoral.
Ah, is it just an implication? Let me make it explicit.
Human life is sacred and it is worth more than the life of other life
forms.
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| User: "Geoff" |
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20 Nov 2007 07:20:00 AM |
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CE wrote:
On Nov 19, 4:30 pm, skyeyes <skye...@dakotacom.net> wrote:
On Nov 19, 1:08 pm, "J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
http://www.pop.org/
No, all human life *isn't* sacred. What's more, claiming that human
life is "sacred" implies that it's worth more than the lives of other
life forms, rendering the claim grossly immoral.
Ah, is it just an implication? Let me make it explicit.
Human life is sacred and it is worth more than the life of other life
forms.
We'll see just how much human life is worth when all other species are
extinct.
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| User: "CE" |
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20 Nov 2007 10:12:32 AM |
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On Nov 20, 9:20 am, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
CE wrote:
On Nov 19, 4:30 pm, skyeyes <skye...@dakotacom.net> wrote:
On Nov 19, 1:08 pm, "J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
http://www.pop.org/
No, all human life *isn't* sacred. What's more, claiming that human
life is "sacred" implies that it's worth more than the lives of other
life forms, rendering the claim grossly immoral.
Ah, is it just an implication? Let me make it explicit.
Human life is sacred and it is worth more than the life of other life
forms.
We'll see just how much human life is worth when all other species are
extinct.
Stating that human life is worth more than that of other life forms in
no way implies that the other species are worthless.
Cattle has value. But a human being is worth more than a bull or a
cow. Similarly for a mosquito or virus. I'll swat a mosquito and feel
absolutely no guilt about it. If I killed a human being, I'd feel
guilty. The human being has more value.
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| User: "Geoff" |
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20 Nov 2007 10:07:32 PM |
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CE wrote:
On Nov 20, 9:20 am, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
CE wrote:
On Nov 19, 4:30 pm, skyeyes <skye...@dakotacom.net> wrote:
On Nov 19, 1:08 pm, "J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
http://www.pop.org/
No, all human life *isn't* sacred. What's more, claiming that
human life is "sacred" implies that it's worth more than the lives
of other life forms, rendering the claim grossly immoral.
Ah, is it just an implication? Let me make it explicit.
Human life is sacred and it is worth more than the life of other
life forms.
We'll see just how much human life is worth when all other species
are extinct.
Stating that human life is worth more than that of other life forms in
no way implies that the other species are worthless.
Cattle has value. But a human being is worth more than a bull or a
cow. Similarly for a mosquito or virus. I'll swat a mosquito and feel
absolutely no guilt about it. If I killed a human being, I'd feel
guilty. The human being has more value.
This is nothing more than species conceit and cultural mores. It in no way
supports your claim (baseless as it is) that human life is sacred.
Furthermore...if we got to the point where there were 50 billion people on
the Earth and only 50,000 head of cattle, which life would you think would
be considered more valuable?
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| User: "CE" |
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20 Nov 2007 10:11:56 PM |
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On Nov 21, 12:07 am, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
if we got to the point where there were 50 billion people on
the Earth and only 50,000 head of cattle, which life would you think would
be considered more valuable?
That's a senseless question. That won't happen because the economics
of having that much cattle for that many people would be ridiculous.
But, even if that situation did, hypothetically, occur, then the human
life would still be more valuable since it is sacred.
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| User: "Geoff" |
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20 Nov 2007 10:40:36 PM |
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CE wrote:
On Nov 21, 12:07 am, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
if we got to the point where there were 50 billion people on
the Earth and only 50,000 head of cattle, which life would you think
would be considered more valuable?
That's a senseless question. That won't happen because the economics
of having that much cattle for that many people would be ridiculous.
It's an hypothetical question.
But, even if that situation did, hypothetically, occur, then the human
life would still be more valuable since it is sacred.
How do you determine if a life is sacred? Approximately one billion people
on Earth would say the cattle are sacred too. Are they wrong? Why?
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| User: "CE" |
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20 Nov 2007 11:19:49 PM |
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On Nov 21, 12:40 am, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
CE wrote:
On Nov 21, 12:07 am, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
if we got to the point where there were 50 billion people on
the Earth and only 50,000 head of cattle, which life would you think
would be considered more valuable?
That's a senseless question. That won't happen because the economics
of having that much cattle for that many people would be ridiculous.
It's an hypothetical question.
But, even if that situation did, hypothetically, occur, then the human
life would still be more valuable since it is sacred.
How do you determine if a life is sacred? Approximately one billion people
on Earth would say the cattle are sacred too. Are they wrong? Why?
Yes, they're wrong.
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| User: "Geoff" |
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21 Nov 2007 09:00:09 AM |
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CE wrote:
On Nov 21, 12:40 am, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
CE wrote:
On Nov 21, 12:07 am, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
if we got to the point where there were 50 billion people on
the Earth and only 50,000 head of cattle, which life would you
think would be considered more valuable?
That's a senseless question. That won't happen because the economics
of having that much cattle for that many people would be ridiculous.
It's an hypothetical question.
But, even if that situation did, hypothetically, occur, then the
human life would still be more valuable since it is sacred.
How do you determine if a life is sacred? Approximately one billion
people on Earth would say the cattle are sacred too. Are they wrong?
Why?
Yes, they're wrong.
Great. Thanks for the answer. How about answering the question "Why?" Your
piling baseless assertion on baseless assertion. Your entire argument is a
built on a foundation of sand.
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| User: "CE" |
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21 Nov 2007 09:04:51 AM |
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On Nov 21, 11:00 am, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
CE wrote:
On Nov 21, 12:40 am, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
CE wrote:
On Nov 21, 12:07 am, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
if we got to the point where there were 50 billion people on
the Earth and only 50,000 head of cattle, which life would you
think would be considered more valuable?
That's a senseless question. That won't happen because the economics
of having that much cattle for that many people would be ridiculous.
It's an hypothetical question.
But, even if that situation did, hypothetically, occur, then the
human life would still be more valuable since it is sacred.
How do you determine if a life is sacred? Approximately one billion
people on Earth would say the cattle are sacred too. Are they wrong?
Why?
Yes, they're wrong.
Great. Thanks for the answer. How about answering the question "Why?" Your
piling baseless assertion on baseless assertion. Your entire argument is a
built on a foundation of sand.
Nice metaphor.
Now, about the piles with which you are having so much trouble ....
What assertions would you like me to explain to you?
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| User: "Geoff" |
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27 Nov 2007 07:52:20 AM |
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CE wrote:
On Nov 21, 11:00 am, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
CE wrote:
On Nov 21, 12:40 am, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
CE wrote:
On Nov 21, 12:07 am, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
if we got to the point where there were 50 billion people on
the Earth and only 50,000 head of cattle, which life would you
think would be considered more valuable?
That's a senseless question. That won't happen because the
economics of having that much cattle for that many people would
be ridiculous.
It's an hypothetical question.
But, even if that situation did, hypothetically, occur, then the
human life would still be more valuable since it is sacred.
How do you determine if a life is sacred? Approximately one billion
people on Earth would say the cattle are sacred too. Are they
wrong? Why?
Yes, they're wrong.
Great. Thanks for the answer. How about answering the question
"Why?" Your piling baseless assertion on baseless assertion. Your
entire argument is a built on a foundation of sand.
Nice metaphor.
Now, about the piles with which you are having so much trouble ....
What assertions would you like me to explain to you?
How do you determine if a life is sacred?
Why are Hindus wrong when they assert (baselessly, I agree) that the lives
of cattle are sacred.
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30 Nov 2007 03:31:14 PM |
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On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:19:49 -0800 (PST), CE <jlrisdon@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Nov 21, 12:40 am, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
CE wrote:
On Nov 21, 12:07 am, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
if we got to the point where there were 50 billion people on
the Earth and only 50,000 head of cattle, which life would you think
would be considered more valuable?
That's a senseless question. That won't happen because the economics
of having that much cattle for that many people would be ridiculous.
It's an hypothetical question.
But, even if that situation did, hypothetically, occur, then the human
life would still be more valuable since it is sacred.
How do you determine if a life is sacred? Approximately one billion people
on Earth would say the cattle are sacred too. Are they wrong? Why?
Yes, they're wrong.
You never said why.
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| User: "Geoff" |
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30 Nov 2007 11:13:37 PM |
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Dubh Ghall wrote:
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:19:49 -0800 (PST), CE <jlrisdon@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Nov 21, 12:40 am, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
CE wrote:
On Nov 21, 12:07 am, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
if we got to the point where there were 50 billion people on
the Earth and only 50,000 head of cattle, which life would you
think would be considered more valuable?
That's a senseless question. That won't happen because the
economics of having that much cattle for that many people would be
ridiculous.
It's an hypothetical question.
But, even if that situation did, hypothetically, occur, then the
human life would still be more valuable since it is sacred.
How do you determine if a life is sacred? Approximately one billion
people on Earth would say the cattle are sacred too. Are they
wrong? Why?
Yes, they're wrong.
You never said why.
He never does. All he knows is the Dipshit Dance. He must have learned it
from Duke. He does it well.
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01 Dec 2007 08:39:03 AM |
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"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:ta2dnb3IE5AYcM3anZ2dnUVZ_i2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
Dubh Ghall wrote:
, CE <jlrisdon@gmail.com>>> wrote:
How do you determine if a life is sacred? Approximately one billion
people on Earth would say the cattle are sacred too. Are they
wrong? Why?
Yes, they're wrong.
You never said why.
He never does. All he knows is the Dipshit Dance. He must have learned it
from Duke. He does it well.
Human life is sacred because we are made in the image and
likeness of God, our creator.
Simple question.... simple answer.
The distinguishing factor that sets mankind apart from baboons, whales,
seagulls and all other animal life is that which forms the most fundamental
part of his being. The Bible says that "God created man in His own image, in
the image of God He created him; male and female He created them" (Genesis
1:27). Note well that this image is bestowed on mankind by his Creator, not
assigned to mankind by other humans based on a relative standard of
individual worth.
In what ways do we see God's image in the people He has created? Theologians
have for centuries debated how far that image permeates our lives, but there
are certain areas of common agreement. Just as God is rational, moral, and
has the ability to make free decisions based on His reason and conscience,
so also we see those qualities in the people He has created. Self-awareness,
self-sacrifice, intimacy, companionship, creativity - all of these human
traits to one degree or another testify to the Creator that conferred them.
The Bible also says that God has "set eternity in the hearts of men"
(Ecclesiastes 3:11) so that mankind is instinctively aware that there is
more than just bare existence, but that there are ultimate goals and
purposes and reasons for life.
This divine image that we bear as humans gives us value, and it invites
God's concern for us. Commenting on God's special care for His creation, and
for men and women in particular, Jesus Christ said, "Are not two sparrows
sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground apart from the
will of your father. And even the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
So don't be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows" (Matthew
10:29-31).
So precious is this divine image in mankind that it deserves due protection.
Any wanton attack on men and women created in God's image is tantamount to
attacking God Himself. So God commanded, "Whoever sheds the blood of man, by
man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man"
(Genesis 9:6).
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01 Dec 2007 11:33:22 AM |
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Bob <bbondurak@hotwire.com> wrote:
"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:ta2dnb3IE5AYcM3anZ2dnUVZ_i2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
Dubh Ghall wrote:
, CE <jlrisdon@gmail.com>>> wrote:
How do you determine if a life is sacred? Approximately one billion
people on Earth would say the cattle are sacred too. Are they
wrong? Why?
Yes, they're wrong.
You never said why.
He never does. All he knows is the Dipshit Dance. He must have learned it
from Duke. He does it well.
Human life is sacred because we are made in the image and
likeness of God, our creator.
Simple question.... simple answer.
Trite inanity.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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02 Dec 2007 11:46:43 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote
Trite inanity.
No one really cares to listen to your familial explanations
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02 Dec 2007 05:23:31 PM |
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"Bob" <bbondurak@hotwire.com> writes:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote
Trite inanity.
No one really cares to listen to your familial explanations
....and you are no one, indeed, since you can't be bothered with leaving your
whinings out of alt.atheism.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2007-08 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Houston 4, Grand Rapids 3 (OT) (December 1)
NEXT GAME: Friday, December 7 at Manitoba, 7:35
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| User: "Geoff" |
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02 Dec 2007 07:29:11 AM |
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Bob wrote:
"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:ta2dnb3IE5AYcM3anZ2dnUVZ_i2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
Dubh Ghall wrote:
, CE <jlrisdon@gmail.com>>> wrote:
How do you determine if a life is sacred? Approximately one
billion people on Earth would say the cattle are sacred too. Are
they wrong? Why?
Yes, they're wrong.
You never said why.
He never does. All he knows is the Dipshit Dance. He must have
learned it from Duke. He does it well.
Human life is sacred because we are made in the image and
likeness of God, our creator.
Great claim. Back it up. Now what is "God's image"?
Simple question.... simple answer.
The following was stolen without attribution from:
http://venturacpc.org/value.html
The distinguishing factor that sets mankind apart from baboons,
whales, seagulls and all other animal life is that which forms the
most fundamental part of his being. The Bible says that "God created
man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and
female He created them" (Genesis 1:27). Note well that this image is
bestowed on mankind by his Creator, not assigned to mankind by other
humans based on a relative standard of individual worth.
In what ways do we see God's image in the people He has created?
Theologians have for centuries debated how far that image permeates
our lives, but there are certain areas of common agreement. Just as
God is rational, moral, and has the ability to make free decisions
based on His reason and conscience
Great claim. Back it up.
so also we see those qualities in
the people He has created. Self-awareness
Not limited to humans.
, self-sacrifice
Not limited to humans.
intimacy, companionship, creativity
Not limited to humans.
- all of these human traits to one degree
or another testify to the Creator that conferred them.
Great claim. Back it up.
The Bible also
says that God has "set eternity in the hearts of men" (Ecclesiastes
3:11) so that mankind is instinctively aware that there is more than
just bare existence, but that there are ultimate goals and purposes
and reasons for life.
Somehow, I missed the memo. Why don't I have this instinct? Is God fallible?
This divine image that we bear as humans gives us value, and it
invites God's concern for us.
Great claim. Back it up.
Commenting on God's special care for
His creation, and for men and women in particular, Jesus Christ said,
"Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall
to the ground apart from the will of your father. And even the very
hairs of your head are all numbered. So don't be afraid; you are
worth more than many sparrows" (Matthew 10:29-31).
So precious is this divine image in mankind that it deserves due
protection. Any wanton attack on men and women created in God's image
is tantamount to attacking God Himself.
OK...so why don't we drive around in bumper cars at 5 mph again?
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02 Dec 2007 11:53:06 AM |
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"Geoff" < wrote:
Now what is "God's image"?
Simple question.... simple answer.
The following was stolen without attribution from:
http://venturacpc.org/value.html
The distinguishing factor that sets mankind apart from baboons,
whales, seagulls and all other animal life is that which forms the
most fundamental part of his being. The Bible says that "God created
man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and
female He created them" (Genesis 1:27). Note well that this image is
bestowed on mankind by his Creator, not assigned to mankind by other
humans based on a relative standard of individual worth.
In what ways do we see God's image in the people He has created?
Theologians have for centuries debated how far that image permeates
our lives, but there are certain areas of common agreement. Just as
God is rational, moral, and has the ability to make free decisions
based on His reason and conscience
Great claim. Back it up.
Prove it wrong.
The Bible also
says that God has "set eternity in the hearts of men" (Ecclesiastes
3:11) so that mankind is instinctively aware that there is more than
just bare existence, but that there are ultimate goals and purposes
and reasons for life.
Somehow, I missed the memo. Why don't I have this instinct? Is God
fallible?
Stop being silly.
Do you own a house, car?
Do you have a family? a spouse?
These are more than bare existence.
Who owns the computer you puke on?
So precious is this divine image in mankind that it deserves due
protection. Any wanton attack on men and women created in God's image
is tantamount to attacking God Himself.
OK...so why don't we drive around in bumper cars at 5 mph again?
Because idiots like you have a free will to try to self destruct?
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| User: "thomas p." |
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| Title: Re: All human life is sacred |
02 Dec 2007 01:41:38 PM |
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"Bob" <bbondurak@hotwire.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:4752f100$0$15346$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"Geoff" < wrote:
Now what is "God's image"?
Simple question.... simple answer.
The following was stolen without attribution from:
http://venturacpc.org/value.html
The distinguishing factor that sets mankind apart from baboons,
whales, seagulls and all other animal life is that which forms the
most fundamental part of his being. The Bible says that "God created
man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and
female He created them" (Genesis 1:27). Note well that this image is
bestowed on mankind by his Creator, not assigned to mankind by other
humans based on a relative standard of individual worth.
In what ways do we see God's image in the people He has created?
Theologians have for centuries debated how far that image permeates
our lives, but there are certain areas of common agreement. Just as
God is rational, moral, and has the ability to make free decisions
based on His reason and conscience
Great claim. Back it up.
Prove it wrong.
In other words you cannot.
The Bible also
says that God has "set eternity in the hearts of men" (Ecclesiastes
3:11) so that mankind is instinctively aware that there is more than
just bare existence, but that there are ultimate goals and purposes
and reasons for life.
Somehow, I missed the memo. Why don't I have this instinct? Is God
fallible?
Stop being silly.
Do you own a house, car?
Do you have a family? a spouse?
These are more than bare existence.
Who owns the computer you puke on?
So precious is this divine image in mankind that it deserves due
protection. Any wanton attack on men and women created in God's image
is tantamount to attacking God Himself.
OK...so why don't we drive around in bumper cars at 5 mph again?
Because idiots like you have a free will to try to self destruct?
Or perhaps you are posting rubbish.
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| User: "Geoff" |
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| Title: Re: All human life is sacred |
02 Dec 2007 03:36:42 PM |
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Bob wrote:
The distinguishing factor that sets mankind apart from baboons,
whales, seagulls and all other animal life is that which forms the
most fundamental part of his being. The Bible says that "God created
man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and
female He created them" (Genesis 1:27). Note well that this image is
bestowed on mankind by his Creator, not assigned to mankind by other
humans based on a relative standard of individual worth.
In what ways do we see God's image in the people He has created?
Theologians have for centuries debated how far that image permeates
our lives, but there are certain areas of common agreement. Just as
God is rational, moral, and has the ability to make free decisions
based on His reason and conscience
Great claim. Back it up.
Prove it wrong.
Not my claim. Have fun with your delusions.
The Bible also
says that God has "set eternity in the hearts of men" (Ecclesiastes
3:11) so that mankind is instinctively aware that there is more than
just bare existence, but that there are ultimate goals and purposes
and reasons for life.
Somehow, I missed the memo. Why don't I have this instinct? Is God
fallible?
Stop being silly.
Do you own a house, car?
Do you have a family? a spouse?
These are more than bare existence.
Who owns the computer you puke on?
Do I have wings, echolocation, ESP? Are humans inherently good or are they
made in the image a violent god?
So precious is this divine image in mankind that it deserves due
protection. Any wanton attack on men and women created in God's
image is tantamount to attacking God Himself.
OK...so why don't we drive around in bumper cars at 5 mph again?
Because idiots like you have a free will to try to self destruct?
I've just shown that humans do *not* regard human life as sacred regardless
your delusions of species grandeur.
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| User: "Bob" |
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| Title: Re: All human life is sacred |
02 Dec 2007 08:13:20 PM |
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"Geoff" <
I've just shown that humans do *not* regard human life as sacred
regardless
your delusions of species grandeur.
Some humans do.
Christians follow the commandments - one of which states that we should not
murder one another.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: All human life is sacred |
02 Dec 2007 11:24:07 PM |
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"Bob" <bbondurak@hotwire.com> writes:
"Geoff" <
I've just shown that humans do *not* regard human life as sacred
regardless your delusions of species grandeur.
Some humans do.
Christians follow the commandments - one of which states that we should not
murder one another.
So tell a few of your supposed fellow Christians to do as you supposedly
believe. (I'm not christian, and I haven't murdered anyone.)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2007-08 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Houston 4, Grand Rapids 3 (OT) (December 1)
NEXT GAME: Friday, December 7 at Manitoba, 7:35
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| User: "thomas p." |
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| Title: Re: All human life is sacred |
03 Dec 2007 09:21:23 AM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:szktzn0xseg.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Bob" <bbondurak@hotwire.com> writes:
"Geoff" <
I've just shown that humans do *not* regard human life as sacred
regardless your delusions of species grandeur.
Some humans do.
Christians follow the commandments - one of which states that we should
not
murder one another.
So tell a few of your supposed fellow Christians to do as you supposedly
believe. (I'm not christian, and I haven't murdered anyone.)
You better hurry up then and catch up. Start with kittens and puppies.
They are lots of fun.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2007-08 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Houston 4, Grand Rapids 3 (OT) (December 1)
NEXT GAME: Friday, December 7 at Manitoba, 7:35
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| User: "Bob" |
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| Title: Re: All human life is sacred |
03 Dec 2007 10:06:22 AM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote ...
"Bob" <bbondurak@hotwire.com> writes:
"Geoff" <
I've just shown that humans do *not* regard human life as sacred
regardless your delusions of species grandeur.
Some humans do.
Christians follow the commandments - one of which states that we should
not
murder one another.
So tell a few of your supposed fellow Christians to do as you supposedly
believe. (I'm not christian, and I haven't murdered anyone.)
You've proved my point.
Even some non-Christian "humans" are aware that laws have been
passed to protect other humans from murder. How sweet.
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