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Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"Pangur Ban" |
| Date: |
15 Jun 2007 07:30:51 AM |
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All Praise to God... |
NOT!!!!
The praise goes to the whistleblowers!
THE DIRECTOR WAS FIRED YESTERDAY!
My friend who is an employee at the agency called me at 3:48 PM to tell
me .... I immediately began calling the other whistleblowers. As I
hung up on the second whistleblower,
THE NOW EX-DIRECTOR CALLED ME!
I have my answering machine take all calls so I sat and listened to
this ... this.... well, to quote a friend.... "crazy *****"...
tell me how she never wanted to fire me ... that she understood that my
blow-up at a staff meeting was a panic attack ... and then offered to
go to the Labor Board as a witness on my behalf in my hearing!
After a flurry of calls to other whistleblowers, I finally reached
Lorraine and we both said at the same time, "Are you sitting down?"
SHE had gotten a phone call from the ex-Director too. However,
Lorraine talked to the ex-Director and recorded the conversation.
The ex-Director alluded to her firing and made reference to the aliases
as as a factor. GOT HER!!!
The ex-Director told Lorraine that she has proof of triple dipping by
the previous Director/financial officer. She also indicated that some
Board Members have been involved in profiting from the Agency's funds.
We whistleblowers always suspected this but had no way to prove it.
She also told Lorraine that she plans to "get" the Thief who is still
working - AND STILL STEALING!
This is going to be a case of one mean, nasty, vindictive, cruel,
unethical, immoral person going after two others who are of like
character! I wish the ex-Director well - but she will get no support
from me. She tried to kill me - literally..... not a physical attack,
but by harassment, threats - anything to upset me and drive my already
dangerously high blood pressure even higher.... resulting in a stroke
or heart attack (the doc had told me I was wayyy too close to both).
This was not my evaluation of what was occurring and why, but the
conclusions of two of the other whistleblowers. Guess like someone
else on this ng she saw me as a baby seal just waiting for the club.
*sigh*
I suspect we whistleblowers will have a party (like my birthday one)
and celebrate .... and then discuss how we can go after the next target
- the Thief. One target at a time, one victory at a time ... and the
community benefits.
Pang - feeling less like a seal and more like a warrior this morning!
:-)
--
Quam bene vivas refert, non quam diu.
Seneca
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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| Title: Re: All Praise to God... |
15 Jun 2007 10:47:36 AM |
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"Pangur Ban" <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in message
news:mn.79867d76263bca26.73271@att.net...
NOT!!!!
The praise goes to the whistleblowers!
THE DIRECTOR WAS FIRED YESTERDAY!
My friend who is an employee at the agency called me at 3:48 PM to tell me
.... I immediately began calling the other whistleblowers. As I hung up
on the second whistleblower,
THE NOW EX-DIRECTOR CALLED ME!
I have my answering machine take all calls so I sat and listened to this
... this.... well, to quote a friend.... "crazy *****"... tell me
how she never wanted to fire me ... that she understood that my blow-up at
a staff meeting was a panic attack ... and then offered to go to the Labor
Board as a witness on my behalf in my hearing!
After a flurry of calls to other whistleblowers, I finally reached
Lorraine and we both said at the same time, "Are you sitting down?" SHE
had gotten a phone call from the ex-Director too. However, Lorraine
talked to the ex-Director and recorded the conversation.
The ex-Director alluded to her firing and made reference to the aliases as
as a factor. GOT HER!!!
The ex-Director told Lorraine that she has proof of triple dipping by the
previous Director/financial officer. She also indicated that some Board
Members have been involved in profiting from the Agency's funds. We
whistleblowers always suspected this but had no way to prove it. She also
told Lorraine that she plans to "get" the Thief who is still working - AND
STILL STEALING!
This is going to be a case of one mean, nasty, vindictive, cruel,
unethical, immoral person going after two others who are of like
character! I wish the ex-Director well - but she will get no support from
me. She tried to kill me - literally..... not a physical attack, but by
harassment, threats - anything to upset me and drive my already
dangerously high blood pressure even higher.... resulting in a stroke or
heart attack (the doc had told me I was wayyy too close to both). This
was not my evaluation of what was occurring and why, but the conclusions
of two of the other whistleblowers. Guess like someone else on this ng
she saw me as a baby seal just waiting for the club. *sigh*
I suspect we whistleblowers will have a party (like my birthday one) and
celebrate .... and then discuss how we can go after the next target - the
Thief. One target at a time, one victory at a time ... and the community
benefits.
Pang - feeling less like a seal and more like a warrior this morning! :-)
--
Quam bene vivas refert, non quam diu.
Seneca
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy!!!!
Greywolf
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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| Title: Re: All Praise to God... |
16 Jun 2007 08:17:03 AM |
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Greywolf expounded:
"Pangur Ban" <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in message
news:mn.79867d76263bca26.73271@att.net...
NOT!!!!
The praise goes to the whistleblowers!
THE DIRECTOR WAS FIRED YESTERDAY!
My friend who is an employee at the agency called me at 3:48 PM to tell me
.... I immediately began calling the other whistleblowers. As I hung up on
the second whistleblower,
THE NOW EX-DIRECTOR CALLED ME!
I have my answering machine take all calls so I sat and listened to this
... this.... well, to quote a friend.... "crazy *****"... tell me
how she never wanted to fire me ... that she understood that my blow-up at
a staff meeting was a panic attack ... and then offered to go to the Labor
Board as a witness on my behalf in my hearing!
After a flurry of calls to other whistleblowers, I finally reached Lorraine
and we both said at the same time, "Are you sitting down?" SHE had gotten
a phone call from the ex-Director too. However, Lorraine talked to the
ex-Director and recorded the conversation.
The ex-Director alluded to her firing and made reference to the aliases as
as a factor. GOT HER!!!
The ex-Director told Lorraine that she has proof of triple dipping by the
previous Director/financial officer. She also indicated that some Board
Members have been involved in profiting from the Agency's funds. We
whistleblowers always suspected this but had no way to prove it. She also
told Lorraine that she plans to "get" the Thief who is still working - AND
STILL STEALING!
This is going to be a case of one mean, nasty, vindictive, cruel,
unethical, immoral person going after two others who are of like character!
I wish the ex-Director well - but she will get no support from me. She
tried to kill me - literally..... not a physical attack, but by harassment,
threats - anything to upset me and drive my already dangerously high blood
pressure even higher.... resulting in a stroke or heart attack (the doc had
told me I was wayyy too close to both). This was not my evaluation of what
was occurring and why, but the conclusions of two of the other
whistleblowers. Guess like someone else on this ng she saw me as a baby
seal just waiting for the club. *sigh*
I suspect we whistleblowers will have a party (like my birthday one) and
celebrate .... and then discuss how we can go after the next target - the
Thief. One target at a time, one victory at a time ... and the community
benefits.
Pang - feeling less like a seal and more like a warrior this morning! :-)
-- Quam bene vivas refert, non quam diu.
Seneca
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy!!!!
See, sweetie? Keep plugging away at your situation!!!!!
Greywolf
--
Tamdiu discendum est, quamdiu vivas.
Seneca
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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| Title: Re: All Praise to God... |
15 Jun 2007 11:02:29 AM |
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"Pangur Ban" <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in message
news:mn.79867d76263bca26.73271@att.net...
NOT!!!!
The praise goes to the whistleblowers!
THE DIRECTOR WAS FIRED YESTERDAY!
Awwww. Hang on for a sec while I pull out my hanky and wipe the tears from
my eyes and honk a few goobers into it.
My friend who is an employee at the agency called me at 3:48 PM to tell me
.... I immediately began calling the other whistleblowers. As I hung up
on the second whistleblower,
THE NOW EX-DIRECTOR CALLED ME!
The *nerve* of the she-devil!
I have my answering machine take all calls so I sat and listened to this
... this.... well, to quote a friend.... "crazy *****"...
How do you say that in Latin?
tell me how she never wanted to fire me ... that she understood that my
blow-up at a staff meeting was a panic attack ... and then offered to go
to the Labor Board as a witness on my behalf in my hearing!
Hang on a second, 'Hey! Would you PLEASE make quiet with the somber violin
music!'
After a flurry of calls to other whistleblowers, I finally reached
Lorraine and we both said at the same time, "Are you sitting down?" SHE
had gotten a phone call from the ex-Director too. However, Lorraine
talked to the ex-Director and recorded the conversation.
The ex-Director alluded to her firing and made reference to the aliases as
as a factor. GOT HER!!!
As the song title goes, 'Hurts so Good'!!
The ex-Director told Lorraine that she has proof of triple dipping by the
previous Director/financial officer. She also indicated that some Board
Members have been involved in profiting from the Agency's funds. We
whistleblowers always suspected this but had no way to prove it. She also
told Lorraine that she plans to "get" the Thief who is still working - AND
STILL STEALING!
Where's my pistola? Dagnabit!!
This is going to be a case of one mean, nasty, vindictive, cruel,
unethical, immoral person going after two others who are of like
character!
Who said gladiator contests were a thing of the past?
I wish the ex-Director well - but she will get no support
from me. She tried to kill me - literally..... not a physical attack, but
by harassment, threats - anything to upset me and drive my already
dangerously high blood pressure even higher.... resulting in a stroke or
heart attack (the doc had told me I was wayyy too close to both). This
was not my evaluation of what was occurring and why, but the conclusions
of two of the other whistleblowers.
And not a whiff of concern ... back *then*. Oh, but how times and events --
as well as selfish attitudes change over time.
Guess like someone
else on this ng she saw me as a baby seal just waiting for the club.
*sigh*
Hey, I know the feeling!
I suspect we whistleblowers will have a party (like my birthday one) and
celebrate .... and then discuss how we can go after the next target - the
Thief.
Terrific.
One target at a time, one victory at a time ... and the
community benefits.
Spoken like a true champion.
Pang - feeling less like a seal and more like a warrior this morning! :-)
And a *mighty* one at that!
--
Quam bene vivas refert, non quam diu.
Seneca
Way to go you WB's!
Greywolf
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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| Title: Re: All Praise to God... |
16 Jun 2007 08:29:19 AM |
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Greywolf asserted :
"Pangur Ban" <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in message
news:mn.79867d76263bca26.73271@att.net...
NOT!!!!
The praise goes to the whistleblowers!
THE DIRECTOR WAS FIRED YESTERDAY!
Awwww. Hang on for a sec while I pull out my hanky and wipe the tears from my
eyes and honk a few goobers into it.
Crocodile tears?
My friend who is an employee at the agency called me at 3:48 PM to tell me
.... I immediately began calling the other whistleblowers. As I hung up on
the second whistleblower,
THE NOW EX-DIRECTOR CALLED ME!
The *nerve* of the she-devil!
My reaction exactly!
I have my answering machine take all calls so I sat and listened to this
... this.... well, to quote a friend.... "crazy *****"...
How do you say that in Latin?
Michael and I are working that out in other posts in this thread.
tell me how she never wanted to fire me ... that she understood that my
blow-up at a staff meeting was a panic attack ... and then offered to go to
the Labor Board as a witness on my behalf in my hearing!
Hang on a second, 'Hey! Would you PLEASE make quiet with the somber violin
music!'
lol
After a flurry of calls to other whistleblowers, I finally reached Lorraine
and we both said at the same time, "Are you sitting down?" SHE had gotten
a phone call from the ex-Director too. However, Lorraine talked to the
ex-Director and recorded the conversation.
The ex-Director alluded to her firing and made reference to the aliases as
as a factor. GOT HER!!!
As the song title goes, 'Hurts so Good'!!
Don't know the lyrics that well - but would "We are the Champions" be
appropriate too?
The ex-Director told Lorraine that she has proof of triple dipping by the
previous Director/financial officer. She also indicated that some Board
Members have been involved in profiting from the Agency's funds. We
whistleblowers always suspected this but had no way to prove it. She also
told Lorraine that she plans to "get" the Thief who is still working - AND
STILL STEALING!
Where's my pistola? Dagnabit!!
The Thief is the one who sat laughing and singing while the EMTs worked
on me as we waited for the ambulance.... good Episcopalian christian
that she is!
This is going to be a case of one mean, nasty, vindictive, cruel,
unethical, immoral person going after two others who are of like character!
Who said gladiator contests were a thing of the past?
I would pay to see them slug it out physically - but they are cowards.
I wish the ex-Director well - but she will get no support
from me. She tried to kill me - literally..... not a physical attack, but
by harassment, threats - anything to upset me and drive my already
dangerously high blood pressure even higher.... resulting in a stroke or
heart attack (the doc had told me I was wayyy too close to both). This was
not my evaluation of what was occurring and why, but the conclusions of two
of the other whistleblowers.
And not a whiff of concern ... back *then*. Oh, but how times and events --
as well as selfish attitudes change over time.
Yes - and no god involved.... despite what my fundie WBs claim ... it
was our human efforts!
Guess like someone
else on this ng she saw me as a baby seal just waiting for the club. *sigh*
Hey, I know the feeling!
*nod*
I suspect we whistleblowers will have a party (like my birthday one) and
celebrate .... and then discuss how we can go after the next target - the
Thief.
Terrific.
One target at a time, one victory at a time ... and the
community benefits.
Spoken like a true champion.
Pang - feeling less like a seal and more like a warrior this morning! :-)
And a *mighty* one at that!
Naww - just a little in-training one - but a victorious one! lol
-- Quam bene vivas refert, non quam diu.
Seneca
Way to go you WB's!
I am passing along comments like yours above to them; they are amazed
that people they don't even know are interested.
Greywolf
--
De inimico non loquaris sed cogites.
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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| Title: Re: All Praise to God... |
16 Jun 2007 05:35:42 PM |
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"Pangur Ban" <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in message
news:mn.81c17d7612e04b5f.73271@att.net...
Greywolf asserted :
"Pangur Ban" <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in message
news:mn.79867d76263bca26.73271@att.net...
NOT!!!!
The praise goes to the whistleblowers!
THE DIRECTOR WAS FIRED YESTERDAY!
Awwww. Hang on for a sec while I pull out my hanky and wipe the tears
from my eyes and honk a few goobers into it.
Crocodile tears?
Was being totally facetious. I was actually dancin' like it was 1999 after
reading about her demise.
My friend who is an employee at the agency called me at 3:48 PM to tell
me .... I immediately began calling the other whistleblowers. As I hung
up on the second whistleblower,
THE NOW EX-DIRECTOR CALLED ME!
The *nerve* of the she-devil!
My reaction exactly!
I have my answering machine take all calls so I sat and listened to this
... this.... well, to quote a friend.... "crazy *****"...
How do you say that in Latin?
Michael and I are working that out in other posts in this thread.
I know. Does that ancient Latin intellectual stuff come in a size 11 or come
pre-packaged? I want some.
tell me how she never wanted to fire me ... that she understood that my
blow-up at a staff meeting was a panic attack ... and then offered to go
to the Labor Board as a witness on my behalf in my hearing!
Hang on a second, 'Hey! Would you PLEASE make quiet with the somber
violin music!'
lol
Fake tears were starting to roll down my cheeks. I'm a *very* sensitive
person.
After a flurry of calls to other whistleblowers, I finally reached
Lorraine and we both said at the same time, "Are you sitting down?" SHE
had gotten a phone call from the ex-Director too. However, Lorraine
talked to the ex-Director and recorded the conversation.
The ex-Director alluded to her firing and made reference to the aliases
as as a factor. GOT HER!!!
As the song title goes, 'Hurts so Good'!!
Don't know the lyrics that well - but would "We are the Champions" be
appropriate too?
Darn tootin' With the late Freddie Mercury doin' the croonin' too!
The ex-Director told Lorraine that she has proof of triple dipping by
the previous Director/financial officer. She also indicated that some
Board Members have been involved in profiting from the Agency's funds.
We whistleblowers always suspected this but had no way to prove it. She
also told Lorraine that she plans to "get" the Thief who is still
working - AND STILL STEALING!
Where's my pistola? Dagnabit!!
The Thief is the one who sat laughing and singing while the EMTs worked on
me as we waited for the ambulance.... good Episcopalian christian that she
is!
I REMEMBER you reporting that!!! Hah!! Guess who got the last laugh?!!
This is going to be a case of one mean, nasty, vindictive, cruel,
unethical, immoral person going after two others who are of like
character!
Who said gladiator contests were a thing of the past?
I would pay to see them slug it out physically - but they are cowards.
Isn't it just like the low-lifes?
I wish the ex-Director well - but she will get no support
from me. She tried to kill me - literally..... not a physical attack,
but by harassment, threats - anything to upset me and drive my already
dangerously high blood pressure even higher.... resulting in a stroke or
heart attack (the doc had told me I was wayyy too close to both). This
was not my evaluation of what was occurring and why, but the conclusions
of two of the other whistleblowers.
And not a whiff of concern ... back *then*. Oh, but how times and
events -- as well as selfish attitudes change over time.
Yes - and no god involved.... despite what my fundie WBs claim ... it was
our human efforts!
Doesn't that 'God' that exists in man's imagination get *any* credit?
Guess like someone
else on this ng she saw me as a baby seal just waiting for the club.
*sigh*
Hey, I know the feeling!
*nod*
I suspect we whistleblowers will have a party (like my birth -- Your
WHAT and WHEN -- day ?!!)
and
celebrate .... and then discuss how we can go after the next target -
the Thief.
Terrific.
One target at a time, one victory at a time ... and the
community benefits.
Spoken like a true champion.
Pang - feeling less like a seal and more like a warrior this morning!
:-)
And a *mighty* one at that!
Naww - just a little in-training one - but a victorious one! lol
-- Quam bene vivas refert, non quam diu.
Seneca
Does that mean you and your fellow WB's have been partyin' like it's 1999
and still haven't fully recovered?
Way to go you WB's!
I am passing along comments like yours above to them; they are amazed
that people they don't even know are interested.
In the same vein, I was told by the UPS guy that the story of my plight is
now known by a lot of people.
You couldn't *possibly* prove it by me.
Greywolf
--
De inimico non loquaris sed cogites.
I couldn't have said it better myself.
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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| Title: Re: All Praise to God... |
16 Jun 2007 06:28:19 PM |
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Greywolf expressed precisely :
"Pangur Ban" <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in message
news:mn.81c17d7612e04b5f.73271@att.net...
Greywolf asserted :
"Pangur Ban" <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in message
news:mn.79867d76263bca26.73271@att.net...
NOT!!!!
The praise goes to the whistleblowers!
THE DIRECTOR WAS FIRED YESTERDAY!
Awwww. Hang on for a sec while I pull out my hanky and wipe the tears from
my eyes and honk a few goobers into it.
Crocodile tears?
Was being totally facetious. I was actually dancin' like it was 1999 after
reading about her demise.
I was being facetious right back - I just forgot the smilie to make it
clear. :-)
My friend who is an employee at the agency called me at 3:48 PM to tell
me .... I immediately began calling the other whistleblowers. As I hung
up on the second whistleblower,
THE NOW EX-DIRECTOR CALLED ME!
The *nerve* of the she-devil!
My reaction exactly!
I have my answering machine take all calls so I sat and listened to this
... this.... well, to quote a friend.... "crazy *****"...
How do you say that in Latin?
Michael and I are working that out in other posts in this thread.
I know. Does that ancient Latin intellectual stuff come in a size 11 or come
pre-packaged? I want some.
Size 11 - one starts with baby booties and studies one's way into the
larger sizes. :-)
tell me how she never wanted to fire me ... that she understood that my
blow-up at a staff meeting was a panic attack ... and then offered to go
to the Labor Board as a witness on my behalf in my hearing!
Hang on a second, 'Hey! Would you PLEASE make quiet with the somber violin
music!'
lol
Fake tears were starting to roll down my cheeks. I'm a *very* sensitive
person.
:')
After a flurry of calls to other whistleblowers, I finally reached
Lorraine and we both said at the same time, "Are you sitting down?" SHE
had gotten a phone call from the ex-Director too. However, Lorraine
talked to the ex-Director and recorded the conversation.
The ex-Director alluded to her firing and made reference to the aliases
as as a factor. GOT HER!!!
As the song title goes, 'Hurts so Good'!!
Don't know the lyrics that well - but would "We are the Champions" be
appropriate too?
Darn tootin' With the late Freddie Mercury doin' the croonin' too!
Absolutely!!!! Have 3 CD set which sometimes I set up to entertain me
while I work outside....
The ex-Director told Lorraine that she has proof of triple dipping by the
previous Director/financial officer. She also indicated that some Board
Members have been involved in profiting from the Agency's funds. We
whistleblowers always suspected this but had no way to prove it. She
also told Lorraine that she plans to "get" the Thief who is still working
- AND STILL STEALING!
Where's my pistola? Dagnabit!!
The Thief is the one who sat laughing and singing while the EMTs worked on
me as we waited for the ambulance.... good Episcopalian christian that she
is!
I REMEMBER you reporting that!!! Hah!! Guess who got the last laugh?!!
Not yet - she is still there and well-protected. She is next on my
list - along with her protector.
This is going to be a case of one mean, nasty, vindictive, cruel,
unethical, immoral person going after two others who are of like
character!
Who said gladiator contests were a thing of the past?
I would pay to see them slug it out physically - but they are cowards.
Isn't it just like the low-lifes?
Yes! No honor, no morals, no courage ....
I wish the ex-Director well - but she will get no support
from me. She tried to kill me - literally..... not a physical attack,
but by harassment, threats - anything to upset me and drive my already
dangerously high blood pressure even higher.... resulting in a stroke or
heart attack (the doc had told me I was wayyy too close to both). This
was not my evaluation of what was occurring and why, but the conclusions
of two of the other whistleblowers.
And not a whiff of concern ... back *then*. Oh, but how times and events
-- as well as selfish attitudes change over time.
Yes - and no god involved.... despite what my fundie WBs claim ... it was
our human efforts!
Doesn't that 'God' that exists in man's imagination get *any* credit?
No and yes - :-) In reality, no. However, my two fundie WBs
absolutely would not have had the strength on their own to go through
what the five of us have. We all have had physical and emotional
reactions, but the two fundies had their beliefs to prop them. I do
prefer standing - or falling - on my own. ;-)
Guess like someone
else on this ng she saw me as a baby seal just waiting for the club.
*sigh*
Hey, I know the feeling!
*nod*
I suspect we whistleblowers will have a party (like my birth -- Your WHAT
and WHEN -- day ?!!)
and
celebrate .... and then discuss how we can go after the next target - the
Thief.
Terrific.
One target at a time, one victory at a time ... and the
community benefits.
Spoken like a true champion.
Pang - feeling less like a seal and more like a warrior this morning!
:-)
And a *mighty* one at that!
Naww - just a little in-training one - but a victorious one! lol
-- Quam bene vivas refert, non quam diu.
Seneca
Does that mean you and your fellow WB's have been partyin' like it's 1999 and
still haven't fully recovered?
Not yet..... we are still sorting through the real and possible
ramifications of the now ex-Director's firing. We are still learning
details.
Way to go you WB's!
I am passing along comments like yours above to them; they are amazed that
people they don't even know are interested.
In the same vein, I was told by the UPS guy that the story of my plight is
now known by a lot of people.
You couldn't *possibly* prove it by me.
That's what we thought too - but we KNOW our efforts were noted and
acted upon ... like our revealing of the aliases. Keeping spreading
the story - stick to the truth - and repeat it and repeat it... that's
what we did and it has been more effective than our efforts to involve
any of the "powers-that-be". The power of the people is sometimes
underrated - but it is there.
Greywolf
-- De inimico non loquaris sed cogites.
I couldn't have said it better myself.
lol
--
Aut viam inveniam aut faciam.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: All Praise to God... |
16 Jun 2007 09:08:59 PM |
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On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 17:28:19 -0600, Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <mn.84187d76d5da4ac3.73271@att.net>
Greywolf expressed precisely :
:
Isn't it just like the low-lifes?
Yes! No honor, no morals, no courage ....
Perhaps we could work that into a Latin Motto for the fraud with many
aliases?
Nil fides, nil mores, nil virtus.
That would look good hanging on her cell wall.
--
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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| Title: Re: All Praise to God... |
17 Jun 2007 09:02:06 AM |
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on 6/16/2007, Michael Gray avouched :
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 17:28:19 -0600, Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <mn.84187d76d5da4ac3.73271@att.net>
Greywolf expressed precisely :
Isn't it just like the low-lifes?
Yes! No honor, no morals, no courage ....
Perhaps we could work that into a Latin Motto for the fraud with many
aliases?
Nil fides, nil mores, nil virtus.
That would look good hanging on her cell wall.
LOVE IT! I like doing needlepoint - wouldn't take long do pattern and
make a wall hanging!!!!
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Quam bene vivas refert, non quam diu.
Seneca
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17 Jun 2007 08:11:13 PM |
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On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 08:02:06 -0600, Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
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on 6/16/2007, Michael Gray avouched :
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 17:28:19 -0600, Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <mn.84187d76d5da4ac3.73271@att.net>
Greywolf expressed precisely :
Isn't it just like the low-lifes?
Yes! No honor, no morals, no courage ....
Perhaps we could work that into a Latin Motto for the fraud with many
aliases?
Nil fides, nil mores, nil virtus.
That would look good hanging on her cell wall.
LOVE IT! I like doing needlepoint - wouldn't take long do pattern and
make a wall hanging!!!!
Perhaps with "Septemdecim nomis" tacked on the end for good measure?
(It was 17 aliases, wasn't it?)
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18 Jun 2007 09:40:43 AM |
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Michael Gray responded :
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 08:02:06 -0600, Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <mn.89e27d76868c1879.73271@att.net>
on 6/16/2007, Michael Gray avouched :
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 17:28:19 -0600, Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <mn.84187d76d5da4ac3.73271@att.net>
Greywolf expressed precisely :
Isn't it just like the low-lifes?
Yes! No honor, no morals, no courage ....
Perhaps we could work that into a Latin Motto for the fraud with many
aliases?
Nil fides, nil mores, nil virtus.
That would look good hanging on her cell wall.
LOVE IT! I like doing needlepoint - wouldn't take long do pattern and
make a wall hanging!!!!
Perhaps with "Septemdecim nomis" tacked on the end for good measure?
(It was 17 aliases, wasn't it?)
Yes, it was.
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Quam bene vivas refert, non quam diu.
Seneca
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15 Jun 2007 06:21:15 PM |
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On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:02:29 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <1375e16qjfbi7ff@corp.supernews.com>
"Pangur Ban" <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in message
news:mn.79867d76263bca26.73271@att.net...
:
I have my answering machine take all calls so I sat and listened to this
... this.... well, to quote a friend.... "crazy *****"...
How do you say that in Latin?
Rabidus semino canis?
:
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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15 Jun 2007 06:35:22 PM |
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Michael Gray asserted :
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:02:29 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <1375e16qjfbi7ff@corp.supernews.com>
"Pangur Ban" <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in message
news:mn.79867d76263bca26.73271@att.net...
I have my answering machine take all calls so I sat and listened to this
... this.... well, to quote a friend.... "crazy *****"...
How do you say that in Latin?
Rabidus semino canis?
Crazy plant dog?
try rabidus concubitus virago....
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Aut viam inveniam aut faciam.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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16 Jun 2007 05:15:34 AM |
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On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:35:22 -0600, Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <mn.7c1f7d764654587e.73271@att.net>
Michael Gray asserted :
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:02:29 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <1375e16qjfbi7ff@corp.supernews.com>
"Pangur Ban" <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in message
news:mn.79867d76263bca26.73271@att.net...
I have my answering machine take all calls so I sat and listened to this
... this.... well, to quote a friend.... "crazy *****"...
How do you say that in Latin?
Rabidus semino canis?
Crazy plant dog?
try rabidus concubitus virago....
Semin/o -are, verb transitive: sow, beget, produce.
How did you get the noun "plant" from it?
And "virago"? Heroine or Warrior maiden?
But your "concubitus" is more what I was looking for!
(If you know what I mean)
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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16 Jun 2007 07:56:01 AM |
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Michael Gray explained :
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:35:22 -0600, Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <mn.7c1f7d764654587e.73271@att.net>
Michael Gray asserted :
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:02:29 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <1375e16qjfbi7ff@corp.supernews.com>
"Pangur Ban" <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in message
news:mn.79867d76263bca26.73271@att.net...
I have my answering machine take all calls so I sat and listened to this
... this.... well, to quote a friend.... "crazy *****"...
How do you say that in Latin?
Rabidus semino canis?
Crazy plant dog?
try rabidus concubitus virago....
Semin/o -are, verb transitive: sow, beget, produce.
How did you get the noun "plant" from it?
And "virago"? Heroine or Warrior maiden?
But your "concubitus" is more what I was looking for!
(If you know what I mean)
Yes.... a bit more accurate :-)
Semino, I was thinking noun, not verb... careless mistake.
From my thesaurus:
virago - bag, battle-ax, beldam, biddy, crone, fishwife, fury, gorgon,
harpy, harridan, Jezebel, Medusa, ogress, shrew, slattern, sorceress,
termagant, vixen, witch, amazon, backbiter, battle-ax, biddy, *****,
calumniator, carper, detractor, dragon, fire-eater, fishwife, fury,
harpy, harridan, hell cat, hellion, hussy, madcap, muckraker, nag,
ogress, old biddy, porcupine, reviler, scold, she-devil, she-wolf,
siren, spitfire, termagant, tigress, vituperator, vixen, wench
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Tamdiu discendum est, quamdiu vivas.
Seneca
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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16 Jun 2007 09:00:39 PM |
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On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 06:56:01 -0600, Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <mn.81a07d76d35f05f9.73271@att.net>
Michael Gray explained :
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:35:22 -0600, Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <mn.7c1f7d764654587e.73271@att.net>
Michael Gray asserted :
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:02:29 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <1375e16qjfbi7ff@corp.supernews.com>
"Pangur Ban" <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in message
news:mn.79867d76263bca26.73271@att.net...
I have my answering machine take all calls so I sat and listened to this
... this.... well, to quote a friend.... "crazy *****"...
How do you say that in Latin?
Rabidus semino canis?
Crazy plant dog?
try rabidus concubitus virago....
Semin/o -are, verb transitive: sow, beget, produce.
How did you get the noun "plant" from it?
And "virago"? Heroine or Warrior maiden?
But your "concubitus" is more what I was looking for!
(If you know what I mean)
Yes.... a bit more accurate :-)
Semino, I was thinking noun, not verb... careless mistake.
From my thesaurus:
virago - bag, battle-ax, beldam, biddy, crone, fishwife, fury, gorgon,
harpy, harridan, Jezebel, Medusa, ogress, shrew, slattern, sorceress,
termagant, vixen, witch, amazon, backbiter, battle-ax, biddy, *****,
calumniator, carper, detractor, dragon, fire-eater, fishwife, fury,
harpy, harridan, hell cat, hellion, hussy, madcap, muckraker, nag,
ogress, old biddy, porcupine, reviler, scold, she-devil, she-wolf,
siren, spitfire, termagant, tigress, vituperator, vixen, wench
Spooky!
I was married to that definition! :P
Was it a Latin thesaurus, or English one?
I stole my words from a Latin one.
"vira'g/o -inis f. herione, warrior maid."
(How bizarre. A voluntary discussion about Latin grammar, on the
internet, no less!)
Mmmm. "Thesaurus"?
Found any fossils of that exitinct creature lately?
Perhaps in the so-called "leaves" of sedimentary slate!
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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| Title: Re: All Praise to God... |
17 Jun 2007 09:00:59 AM |
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Michael Gray squeezed out this idea :
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 06:56:01 -0600, Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <mn.81a07d76d35f05f9.73271@att.net>
Michael Gray explained :
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:35:22 -0600, Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <mn.7c1f7d764654587e.73271@att.net>
Michael Gray asserted :
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:02:29 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <1375e16qjfbi7ff@corp.supernews.com>
"Pangur Ban" <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in message
news:mn.79867d76263bca26.73271@att.net...
I have my answering machine take all calls so I sat and listened to
this ... this.... well, to quote a friend.... "crazy *****"...
How do you say that in Latin?
Rabidus semino canis?
Crazy plant dog?
try rabidus concubitus virago....
Semin/o -are, verb transitive: sow, beget, produce.
How did you get the noun "plant" from it?
And "virago"? Heroine or Warrior maiden?
But your "concubitus" is more what I was looking for!
(If you know what I mean)
Yes.... a bit more accurate :-)
Semino, I was thinking noun, not verb... careless mistake.
From my thesaurus:
virago - bag, battle-ax, beldam, biddy, crone, fishwife, fury, gorgon,
harpy, harridan, Jezebel, Medusa, ogress, shrew, slattern, sorceress,
termagant, vixen, witch, amazon, backbiter, battle-ax, biddy, *****,
calumniator, carper, detractor, dragon, fire-eater, fishwife, fury,
harpy, harridan, hell cat, hellion, hussy, madcap, muckraker, nag,
ogress, old biddy, porcupine, reviler, scold, she-devil, she-wolf,
siren, spitfire, termagant, tigress, vituperator, vixen, wench
Spooky!
I was married to that definition! :P
My ex was a sweet, kind, gentle man -
Was it a Latin thesaurus, or English one?
I stole my words from a Latin one.
"vira'g/o -inis f. herione, warrior maid."
I already knew the word ... Taming of the Shrew introduced the word to
me long ago; I checked the latin first - then went to the English.
Words change meanings so much during centuries - or even decades. The
latin concubitus (concubitus = [lying or reclining together]; hence
[copulation]) is not quite the English word. :-)
(How bizarre. A voluntary discussion about Latin grammar, on the
internet, no less!)
Why not? That's what I love about the 'net - virtually anything is
discussed - and this group ranges widely!!!!
Mmmm. "Thesaurus"?
Found any fossils of that exitinct creature lately?
from the latin theo=god; from the Greek saurus=reptile
Nope, haven't found any god lizards.
Perhaps in the so-called "leaves" of sedimentary slate!
LOL
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De inimico non loquaris sed cogites.
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| Title: Re: All Praise to God... |
17 Jun 2007 08:02:35 PM |
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On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 08:00:59 -0600, Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
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Michael Gray squeezed out this idea :
:
Mmmm. "Thesaurus"?
Found any fossils of that exitinct creature lately?
from the latin theo=god; from the Greek saurus=reptile
Nope, haven't found any god lizards.
Not even Godzilla?
Perhaps in the so-called "leaves" of sedimentary slate!
LOL
When geologists and paleontologists sift through slate & shale rubble,
they refer to a chunk as "a book", which they then split the "pages"
open to check for fossil imprints.
I still can't help but wonder (seeing as the fossil finding proces is
so random) just what beautiful examples are skipped or missed.
There might be an undicovered phylum in between the two leaves that
one did not crack open!
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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18 Jun 2007 09:40:13 AM |
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on 6/17/2007, Michael Gray avouched :
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 08:00:59 -0600, Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <mn.89e07d7620b2e9e3.73271@att.net>
Michael Gray squeezed out this idea :
Mmmm. "Thesaurus"?
Found any fossils of that extinct creature lately?
from the latin theo=god; from the Greek saurus=reptile
Nope, haven't found any god lizards.
Not even Godzilla?
Not even a bridezilla!
Perhaps in the so-called "leaves" of sedimentary slate!
LOL
When geologists and paleontologists sift through slate & shale rubble,
they refer to a chunk as "a book", which they then split the "pages"
open to check for fossil imprints.
Yes, I spent one entire day - freezing every part of my anatomy - doing
the splitting. The men had used jackhammers in a quarry to get the
bottom layers out. Others of us sat with chisels and cooking spatulas
and such splitting the leaves. I finally split open one and revealed a
marvelous fish fossil. I was sooooo excited I infected even the more
experienced hunters around me. Finally the professor leading the
expedition had to come to see what was found. He was disappointed it
was "just another fish" - but gave me the warmest smile for my
excitement at the find.
No. I didn't get to keep it. It went to the University as it was to
be used in a study.
I still can't help but wonder (seeing as the fossil finding proces is
so random)
But it isn't really. One knows not to hunt in igneous rocks... and
metamorphic aren't normally sources ... sooooo sedimentary and, of
course, limestone.
I don't have the next level of training which is to use geology to
locate the areas of sedimentary rocks which were sea bottom or lagoons
or even flood plains. Then the geologist/paleontologist uses further
knowledge to select smaller areas where fossils can be found.... a bend
in the topography which would trap flood debris, lagoon edges, the
micro-climate areas which contain trilobites, etc. It really isn't
all that random.
just what beautiful examples are skipped or missed.
There might be an undicovered phylum in between the two leaves that
one did not crack open!
Which is why I find funting so addictive - and sooooo hard to stop for
the day. I have gone to a site saying firmly to myself - Now, just two
hours!" - and five hours later Hadrian is hanging over me telling me he
is starving...my neck muscles are tight... I have a tiny bit of
sunburn.... LOL
Once I took a visiting artist on the West Mesa to hunt fossilized wood,
jasper, and goddess cups. I almost had to grab his arm and drag him to
the SUV and then had to drive over the speed limit to get him to his
flight to California. I have taken a number of visiting friends, new
friends, and others out hunting. Some become bored quickly; others
are like me and the artist - addicted! It must be the same as gamblers
who think the next hand of cards will be IT.
Pang - addicted funter who is always willing to expose others to her
addiction lol
--
Tamdiu discendum est, quamdiu vivas.
Seneca
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: All Praise to God... |
18 Jun 2007 07:46:42 PM |
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On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 08:40:13 -0600, Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <mn.92087d76cf91349c.73271@att.net>
on 6/17/2007, Michael Gray avouched :
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 08:00:59 -0600, Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <mn.89e07d7620b2e9e3.73271@att.net>
Michael Gray squeezed out this idea :
Mmmm. "Thesaurus"?
Found any fossils of that extinct creature lately?
from the latin theo=god; from the Greek saurus=reptile
Nope, haven't found any god lizards.
Not even Godzilla?
Not even a bridezilla!
Perhaps in the so-called "leaves" of sedimentary slate!
LOL
When geologists and paleontologists sift through slate & shale rubble,
they refer to a chunk as "a book", which they then split the "pages"
open to check for fossil imprints.
Yes, I spent one entire day - freezing every part of my anatomy - doing
the splitting. The men had used jackhammers in a quarry to get the
bottom layers out. Others of us sat with chisels and cooking spatulas
and such splitting the leaves. I finally split open one and revealed a
marvelous fish fossil. I was sooooo excited I infected even the more
experienced hunters around me. Finally the professor leading the
expedition had to come to see what was found. He was disappointed it
was "just another fish" - but gave me the warmest smile for my
excitement at the find.
No. I didn't get to keep it. It went to the University as it was to
be used in a study.
I still can't help but wonder (seeing as the fossil finding proces is
so random)
But it isn't really. One knows not to hunt in igneous rocks... and
metamorphic aren't normally sources ... sooooo sedimentary and, of
course, limestone.
What I really meant was that we have access to only an absolutely
miniscule amount of that sedimenatary rock.
That which has chosen to come to the surface, on dry land.
The vast majority is utterly innaccessible: under mountains, under the
sea etc.
Imagine all of the intermediary species that are locked away!
I don't have the next level of training which is to use geology to
locate the areas of sedimentary rocks which were sea bottom or lagoons
or even flood plains. Then the geologist/paleontologist uses further
knowledge to select smaller areas where fossils can be found.... a bend
in the topography which would trap flood debris, lagoon edges, the
micro-climate areas which contain trilobites, etc. It really isn't
all that random.
just what beautiful examples are skipped or missed.
There might be an undicovered phylum in between the two leaves that
one did not crack open!
Which is why I find funting so addictive - and sooooo hard to stop for
the day. I have gone to a site saying firmly to myself - Now, just two
hours!" - and five hours later Hadrian is hanging over me telling me he
is starving...my neck muscles are tight... I have a tiny bit of
sunburn.... LOL
Once I took a visiting artist on the West Mesa to hunt fossilized wood,
jasper, and goddess cups. I almost had to grab his arm and drag him to
the SUV and then had to drive over the speed limit to get him to his
flight to California. I have taken a number of visiting friends, new
friends, and others out hunting. Some become bored quickly; others
are like me and the artist - addicted! It must be the same as gamblers
who think the next hand of cards will be IT.
Pang - addicted funter who is always willing to expose others to her
addiction lol
So, you are a funt pusher?
Is that legal?
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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| Title: Re: All Praise to God... |
19 Jun 2007 07:06:08 AM |
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Michael Gray squeezed out this idea :
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 08:40:13 -0600, Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <mn.92087d76cf91349c.73271@att.net>
on 6/17/2007, Michael Gray avouched :
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 08:00:59 -0600, Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <mn.89e07d7620b2e9e3.73271@att.net>
Michael Gray squeezed out this idea :
Mmmm. "Thesaurus"?
Found any fossils of that extinct creature lately?
from the latin theo=god; from the Greek saurus=reptile
Nope, haven't found any god lizards.
Not even Godzilla?
Not even a bridezilla!
Perhaps in the so-called "leaves" of sedimentary slate!
LOL
When geologists and paleontologists sift through slate & shale rubble,
they refer to a chunk as "a book", which they then split the "pages"
open to check for fossil imprints.
Yes, I spent one entire day - freezing every part of my anatomy - doing
the splitting. The men had used jackhammers in a quarry to get the
bottom layers out. Others of us sat with chisels and cooking spatulas
and such splitting the leaves. I finally split open one and revealed a
marvelous fish fossil. I was sooooo excited I infected even the more
experienced hunters around me. Finally the professor leading the
expedition had to come to see what was found. He was disappointed it
was "just another fish" - but gave me the warmest smile for my
excitement at the find.
No. I didn't get to keep it. It went to the University as it was to
be used in a study.
I still can't help but wonder (seeing as the fossil finding proces is
so random)
But it isn't really. One knows not to hunt in igneous rocks... and
metamorphic aren't normally sources ... sooooo sedimentary and, of
course, limestone.
What I really meant was that we have access to only an absolutely
miniscule amount of that sedimenatary rock.
That which has chosen to come to the surface, on dry land.
The vast majority is utterly innaccessible: under mountains, under the
sea etc.
Imagine all of the intermediary species that are locked away!
Ah, I misunderstood. Some fossils will never be found as they are
subducted and melted along with their matrix, or weather out and
crumble, or - as you noted - buried too deep. I was told of a local
well-driller who sometimes brings up fossils - even entire small
skulls.
The stupid cretin takes them out into the desert and dumps then because
he thinks his drilling will be stopped if anyone knows what he brings
up. Arrrrgggghhhhh!
I don't have the next level of training which is to use geology to
locate the areas of sedimentary rocks which were sea bottom or lagoons
or even flood plains. Then the geologist/paleontologist uses further
knowledge to select smaller areas where fossils can be found.... a bend
in the topography which would trap flood debris, lagoon edges, the
micro-climate areas which contain trilobites, etc. It really isn't
all that random.
just what beautiful examples are skipped or missed.
There might be an undicovered phylum in between the two leaves that
one did not crack open!
Which is why I find funting so addictive - and sooooo hard to stop for
the day. I have gone to a site saying firmly to myself - Now, just two
hours!" - and five hours later Hadrian is hanging over me telling me he
is starving...my neck muscles are tight... I have a tiny bit of
sunburn.... LOL
Once I took a visiting artist on the West Mesa to hunt fossilized wood,
jasper, and goddess cups. I almost had to grab his arm and drag him to
the SUV and then had to drive over the speed limit to get him to his
flight to California. I have taken a number of visiting friends, new
friends, and others out hunting. Some become bored quickly; others
are like me and the artist - addicted! It must be the same as gamblers
who think the next hand of cards will be IT.
Pang - addicted funter who is always willing to expose others to her
addiction lol
So, you are a funt pusher?
Is that legal?
Not always!
Pang - funt pusher - and who likes that so much I think I may make
that a signature for the group!
--
I not only keep grudges; I feed and breed 'em!
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| Title: Re: All Praise to God... |
19 Jun 2007 07:44:25 PM |
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On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 06:06:08 -0600, Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <mn.996e7d76f6852191.73271@att.net>
:
Ah, I misunderstood. Some fossils will never be found as they are
subducted and melted along with their matrix, or weather out and
crumble, or - as you noted - buried too deep. I was told of a local
well-driller who sometimes brings up fossils - even entire small
skulls.
The stupid cretin takes them out into the desert and dumps then because
he thinks his drilling will be stopped if anyone knows what he brings
up. Arrrrgggghhhhh!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4950540.stm
Published: 2006/04/27 15:13:49 GMT
"North Sea fossil is deepest dino
The first dinosaur fossil discovered in Norway is also the deepest one
that has been found anywhere in the world.
The 195-210-million-year-old specimen was found 2.3km (1.4 miles)
below the floor of the North Sea by an offshore oil drilling platform.
Norwegian palaeontologist Jorn Harald Hurum, from the University of
Oslo, identified the fossil as the knucklebone of a plateosaur.
Details of the discovery are to appear in the Norwegian Journal of
Geology.
........
We knew there was food there, so something must have been eating it.
But we didn't know what animals were there
- Jorn Harald Hurum, University of Oslo
........
"It's the first time a dinosaur bone has ever been found in such a
deep core," Dr Hurum told the BBC News website.
Marine reptile fossils have been found in some previous North Sea
drill cores, but to find a terrestrial animal at such a depth is rare.
"To drill through a terrestrial animal is much rarer because there are
so many more marine sediments there," Dr Hurum, assistant professor of
vertebrate palaeontology at Oslo's Natural History Museum, explained.
The crushed knucklebone was identified in a long cylinder of rock
drilled out from an exploration well at Norway's Snorre offshore
field.
Enigmatic specimen
The geologists who drilled the core spotted the curious specimen in
1997; but they were discouraged by colleagues who thought it was plant
matter and tucked it away in a drawer.
Only in 2003 did they pass the specimen to Hurum, who thought it
looked like a dinosaur.
After consulting palaeontologists at the University of Bonn in
Germany, a microscopic examination of the specimen showed it to be
identical in structure to bones from a Plateosaurus species.
This dinosaur is the most common type found in Europe. At the time it
lived, there was a desert between Norway and Greenland crossed by
meandering rivers.
"We knew there was food there, so something must have been eating it;
but we didn't know what animals were there," Dr Hurum said.
Dr Hurum describes himself as Norway's only dinosaur researcher.
Successive ice ages have eroded dinosaur-bearing rocks in mainland
Norway.
But the scientist thinks fossils could be found on the northern island
of Spitsbergen."
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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20 Jun 2007 07:19:32 AM |
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Michael Gray explicated :
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 06:06:08 -0600, Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <mn.996e7d76f6852191.73271@att.net>
Ah, I misunderstood. Some fossils will never be found as they are
subducted and melted along with their matrix, or weather out and
crumble, or - as you noted - buried too deep. I was told of a local
well-driller who sometimes brings up fossils - even entire small
skulls.
The stupid cretin takes them out into the desert and dumps then because
he thinks his drilling will be stopped if anyone knows what he brings
up. Arrrrgggghhhhh!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4950540.stm
Published: 2006/04/27 15:13:49 GMT
"North Sea fossil is deepest dino
The first dinosaur fossil discovered in Norway is also the deepest one
that has been found anywhere in the world.
The 195-210-million-year-old specimen was found 2.3km (1.4 miles)
below the floor of the North Sea by an offshore oil drilling platform.
Oh, my! And sheer accident in finding it!
Norwegian palaeontologist Jorn Harald Hurum, from the University of
Oslo, identified the fossil as the knucklebone of a plateosaur.
Details of the discovery are to appear in the Norwegian Journal of
Geology.
.......
We knew there was food there, so something must have been eating it.
But we didn't know what animals were there
- Jorn Harald Hurum, University of Oslo
.......
"It's the first time a dinosaur bone has ever been found in such a
deep core," Dr Hurum told the BBC News website.
Marine reptile fossils have been found in some previous North Sea
drill cores, but to find a terrestrial animal at such a depth is rare.
"To drill through a terrestrial animal is much rarer because there are
so many more marine sediments there," Dr Hurum, assistant professor of
vertebrate palaeontology at Oslo's Natural History Museum, explained.
The crushed knucklebone was identified in a long cylinder of rock
drilled out from an exploration well at Norway's Snorre offshore
field.
Enigmatic specimen
The geologists who drilled the core spotted the curious specimen in
1997; but they were discouraged by colleagues who thought it was plant
matter and tucked it away in a drawer.
Only in 2003 did they pass the specimen to Hurum, who thought it
looked like a dinosaur.
After consulting palaeontologists at the University of Bonn in
Germany, a microscopic examination of the specimen showed it to be
identical in structure to bones from a Plateosaurus species.
This dinosaur is the most common type found in Europe. At the time it
lived, there was a desert between Norway and Greenland crossed by
meandering rivers.
"We knew there was food there, so something must have been eating it;
but we didn't know what animals were there," Dr Hurum said.
Dr Hurum describes himself as Norway's only dinosaur researcher.
Successive ice ages have eroded dinosaur-bearing rocks in mainland
Norway.
But the scientist thinks fossils could be found on the northern island
of Spitsbergen."
If you have seen Jurassic Park, I was really caught by the "fictional"
machine which allowed the group to see a buried raptor. If only - and
if only cheap enough - I'd be out every day!!!!!!
Pang
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Aut viam inveniam aut faciam.
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| User: "johac" |
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21 Jun 2007 06:01:30 PM |
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In article <mn.a17b7d7684bd7ef4.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
Michael Gray explicated :
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 06:06:08 -0600, Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <mn.996e7d76f6852191.73271@att.net>
Ah, I misunderstood. Some fossils will never be found as they are
subducted and melted along with their matrix, or weather out and
crumble, or - as you noted - buried too deep. I was told of a local
well-driller who sometimes brings up fossils - even entire small
skulls.
The stupid cretin takes them out into the desert and dumps then because
he thinks his drilling will be stopped if anyone knows what he brings
up. Arrrrgggghhhhh!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4950540.stm
Published: 2006/04/27 15:13:49 GMT
"North Sea fossil is deepest dino
The first dinosaur fossil discovered in Norway is also the deepest one
that has been found anywhere in the world.
The 195-210-million-year-old specimen was found 2.3km (1.4 miles)
below the floor of the North Sea by an offshore oil drilling platform.
Oh, my! And sheer accident in finding it!
That is incredible! What are the odds?
Norwegian palaeontologist Jorn Harald Hurum, from the University of
Oslo, identified the fossil as the knucklebone of a plateosaur.
Details of the discovery are to appear in the Norwegian Journal of
Geology.
.......
We knew there was food there, so something must have been eating it.
But we didn't know what animals were there
- Jorn Harald Hurum, University of Oslo
.......
"It's the first time a dinosaur bone has ever been found in such a
deep core," Dr Hurum told the BBC News website.
Marine reptile fossils have been found in some previous North Sea
drill cores, but to find a terrestrial animal at such a depth is rare.
"To drill through a terrestrial animal is much rarer because there are
so many more marine sediments there," Dr Hurum, assistant professor of
vertebrate palaeontology at Oslo's Natural History Museum, explained.
The crushed knucklebone was identified in a long cylinder of rock
drilled out from an exploration well at Norway's Snorre offshore
field.
Enigmatic specimen
The geologists who drilled the core spotted the curious specimen in
1997; but they were discouraged by colleagues who thought it was plant
matter and tucked it away in a drawer.
Only in 2003 did they pass the specimen to Hurum, who thought it
looked like a dinosaur.
After consulting palaeontologists at the University of Bonn in
Germany, a microscopic examination of the specimen showed it to be
identical in structure to bones from a Plateosaurus species.
This dinosaur is the most common type found in Europe. At the time it
lived, there was a desert between Norway and Greenland crossed by
meandering rivers.
"We knew there was food there, so something must have been eating it;
but we didn't know what animals were there," Dr Hurum said.
Dr Hurum describes himself as Norway's only dinosaur researcher.
Successive ice ages have eroded dinosaur-bearing rocks in mainland
Norway.
But the scientist thinks fossils could be found on the northern island
of Spitsbergen."
If you have seen Jurassic Park, I was really caught by the "fictional"
machine which allowed the group to see a buried raptor. If only - and
if only cheap enough - I'd be out every day!!!!!!
There is ground penetrating radar (GPR), but I don't know if it would
be powerful enough unless the fossils were near the surface:
http://www.ldolphin.org/GPRbkgnd.html
Pang
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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21 Jun 2007 08:41:05 PM |
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On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:01:30 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-96B5B0.16013021062007@news.giganews.com>
In article <mn.a17b7d7684bd7ef4.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
Michael Gray explicated :
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 06:06:08 -0600, Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <mn.996e7d76f6852191.73271@att.net>
Ah, I misunderstood. Some fossils will never be found as they are
subducted and melted along with their matrix, or weather out and
crumble, or - as you noted - buried too deep. I was told of a local
well-driller who sometimes brings up fossils - even entire small
skulls.
The stupid cretin takes them out into the desert and dumps then because
he thinks his drilling will be stopped if anyone knows what he brings
up. Arrrrgggghhhhh!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4950540.stm
Published: 2006/04/27 15:13:49 GMT
"North Sea fossil is deepest dino
The first dinosaur fossil discovered in Norway is also the deepest one
that has been found anywhere in the world.
The 195-210-million-year-old specimen was found 2.3km (1.4 miles)
below the floor of the North Sea by an offshore oil drilling platform.
Oh, my! And sheer accident in finding it!
That is incredible! What are the odds?
Exactly two to the power of two hundred and sixty-seven thousand seven
hundred and nine to one against.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: All Praise to God... |
21 Jun 2007 11:56:26 PM |
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In article <vu9m735cthlv703s2idf81lsinehv79jdv@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:01:30 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-96B5B0.16013021062007@news.giganews.com>
In article <mn.a17b7d7684bd7ef4.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
Michael Gray explicated :
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 06:06:08 -0600, Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <mn.996e7d76f6852191.73271@att.net>
Ah, I misunderstood. Some fossils will never be found as they are
subducted and melted along with their matrix, or weather out and
crumble, or - as you noted - buried too deep. I was told of a local
well-driller who sometimes brings up fossils - even entire small
skulls.
The stupid cretin takes them out into the desert and dumps then because
he thinks his drilling will be stopped if anyone knows what he brings
up. Arrrrgggghhhhh!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4950540.stm
Published: 2006/04/27 15:13:49 GMT
"North Sea fossil is deepest dino
The first dinosaur fossil discovered in Norway is also the deepest one
that has been found anywhere in the world.
The 195-210-million-year-old specimen was found 2.3km (1.4 miles)
below the floor of the North Sea by an offshore oil drilling platform.
Oh, my! And sheer accident in finding it!
That is incredible! What are the odds?
Exactly two to the power of two hundred and sixty-seven thousand seven
hundred and nine to one against.
--
Thank you Mr. Spock. :-)
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: All Praise to God... |
22 Jun 2007 01:25:05 AM |
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"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-B2138D.21562621062007@news.giganews.com...
In article <vu9m735cthlv703s2idf81lsinehv79jdv@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:01:30 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-96B5B0.16013021062007@news.giganews.com>
In article <mn.a17b7d7684bd7ef4.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
Michael Gray explicated :
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 06:06:08 -0600, Pangur Ban
<Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <mn.996e7d76f6852191.73271@att.net>
Ah, I misunderstood. Some fossils will never be found as they are
subducted and melted along with their matrix, or weather out and
crumble, or - as you noted - buried too deep. I was told of a
local
well-driller who sometimes brings up fossils - even entire small
skulls.
The stupid cretin takes them out into the desert and dumps then
because
he thinks his drilling will be stopped if anyone knows what he
brings
up. Arrrrgggghhhhh!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4950540.stm
Published: 2006/04/27 15:13:49 GMT
"North Sea fossil is deepest dino
The first dinosaur fossil discovered in Norway is also the deepest
one
that has been found anywhere in the world.
The 195-210-million-year-old specimen was found 2.3km (1.4 miles)
below the floor of the North Sea by an offshore oil drilling
platform.
Oh, my! And sheer accident in finding it!
That is incredible! What are the odds?
Exactly two to the power of two hundred and sixty-seven thousand seven
hundred and nine to one against.
--
Thank you Mr. Spock. :-)
Tsk. And, Spock was told to never tell the odds.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: All Praise to God... |
22 Jun 2007 02:10:14 AM |
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On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 02:25:05 -0400, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
- Refer: <rN6dncK-B_al7ebbnZ2dnUVZ_hisnZ2d@comcast.com>
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-B2138D.21562621062007@news.giganews.com...
In article <vu9m735cthlv703s2idf81lsinehv79jdv@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:01:30 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-96B5B0.16013021062007@news.giganews.com>
In article <mn.a17b7d7684bd7ef4.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
Michael Gray explicated :
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 06:06:08 -0600, Pangur Ban
<Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <mn.996e7d76f6852191.73271@att.net>
Ah, I misunderstood. Some fossils will never be found as they are
subducted and melted along with their matrix, or weather out and
crumble, or - as you noted - buried too deep. I was told of a
local
well-driller who sometimes brings up fossils - even entire small
skulls.
The stupid cretin takes them out into the desert and dumps then
because
he thinks his drilling will be stopped if anyone knows what he
brings
up. Arrrrgggghhhhh!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4950540.stm
Published: 2006/04/27 15:13:49 GMT
"North Sea fossil is deepest dino
The first dinosaur fossil discovered in Norway is also the deepest
one
that has been found anywhere in the world.
The 195-210-million-year-old specimen was found 2.3km (1.4 miles)
below the floor of the North Sea by an offshore oil drilling
platform.
Oh, my! And sheer accident in finding it!
That is incredible! What are the odds?
Exactly two to the power of two hundred and sixty-seven thousand seven
hundred and nine to one against.
--
Thank you Mr. Spock. :-)
Tsk. And, Spock was told to never tell the odds.
Only after that unfortunate incident at the Aldebaran Casino, where I
bet the U.S.S. Enterprise, in anticipation of a mind-meld with the
roulette wheel, when I got mightily distracted by Lt. Uhura bending
over to pick up a poker chip.
Most illogical.
--
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