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19 Apr 2006 04:21:49 AM |
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America meets the new superpower |
America meets the new superpower
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article358568.ece
The visit of President Hu to Washington underlines the inevitable loss
of America's economic supremacy to China
By Clifford Coonan in Beijing
Published: 19 April 2006
When President Hu Jintao of China shakes hands with President George
Bush in Washington tomorrow and gives one of his fixed grins for
photographers, it will not be just another meeting between the leader
of a large developing country and the chief executive of the richest
nation on earth.
China is rising fast and is expected to eclipse the United States
economically in the future - its gross domestic product is tipped to
overtake that of America by 2045.
China / Meiguo
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: America meets the new superpower |
19 Apr 2006 08:48:12 AM |
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"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote
The visit of President Hu to Washington underlines the inevitable
loss of America's economic supremacy to China
That's right. The Chinese economy will never mature, and there's
an unlimited supply of natural resources anyway.
And don't let anyone ever tell you differently.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: America meets the new superpower |
19 Apr 2006 04:47:45 PM |
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JTEM wrote:
"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote
The visit of President Hu to Washington underlines the inevitable
loss of America's economic supremacy to China
That's right.
You're wrong. China still has a long way to go to catch up to the
United States economically.
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The Chinese economy will never mature, and there's
an unlimited supply of natural resources anyway.
You're the only one to say natural resources are unlimited. All the
scientists have been saying we're going to run out of natural
resources. Trees have been cut down at a very fast rate contributing
to global warming.
And don't let anyone ever tell you differently.
I disagree with your assessment..
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| User: "Jim Walsh" |
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| Title: Re: America meets the new superpower |
20 Apr 2006 01:13:48 AM |
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On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 05:47:45 +0800, wrote
(in article <1145483265.279258.51770@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>):
JTEM wrote:
The Chinese economy will never mature, and there's
an unlimited supply of natural resources anyway.
You're the only one to say natural resources are unlimited. All the
scientists have been saying we're going to run out of natural
resources. Trees have been cut down at a very fast rate contributing
to global warming.
I guess that JTEM was speaking sarcastically.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: America meets the new superpower |
19 Apr 2006 04:18:18 PM |
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JTEM wrote:
"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote
The visit of President Hu to Washington underlines the inevitable
loss of America's economic supremacy to China
That's right. The Chinese economy will never mature, and there's
an unlimited supply of natural resources anyway.
And don't let anyone ever tell you differently.
Reminds me of the Japanese who will never be able to do anything except make
cheap toys and copy us.
Why in WWII they stole plans for a battle ship that was top heavy and their
airplanes were .... better not go there, especially if anybody has seen *****
Rutan's plane that looks remarkable like a WWII war plane the Japanese
developed.
But at least the Chinese put things in perspective. They visited Bill Gates
first.
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: America meets the new superpower |
19 Apr 2006 08:12:10 PM |
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"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote
That's right. The Chinese economy will never mature, and there's
an unlimited supply of natural resources anyway.
And don't let anyone ever tell you differently.
Reminds me of the Japanese who will never be able to do anything
except make cheap toys and copy us.
Don't be a *****. If you want to ignore what has been said in favor of
flinging around charges of racism then just do it.
But, confusing "Racisim" with "Resources" simply makes you look like
an idiot. They both do start with an 'r', I'll grant you that much, but
their
similarities end there.
Now, do you want to stick with the cowardly racist shtick, or do
you want to address what I said?
You'll note -- because you quoted it, and I retained it above -- I
mentioned a little something about economies maturing.
Are you disputing this? Or, did you get it into your head that China
is unique and their economy will never mature? If that's true it's
okay, but it's also wrong. Dead wrong. The Chinese economy will
mature.
And I also brought up a little something about resources. Again,
did you mean to dispute this -- perhaps sneezing and accidentally
vomiting out your racists rant instead -- when you replied?
If so, you are again wrong.
'Tis the nature of economics that expansion *Here* does not
necessarily require constriction *There*, and vice versa.
If you need a blaringly obvious example -- and it certainly
appears that you do -- only recently it was reported that
China's economy has overtaken that of Britain. What WAS
NOT reported was that the British economy vanished, with
it's share of economic growth & resource consumption
going to China. In fact, just the opposite. Instead of any
stories detailing how Britain no longer consumes resources,
there has been a recent report that, at current rates of
consumption, that if the entire world consumed resources
at the rate of Britain it would require more than 3 planet
Earths to sustain everyone.
There.
Now, if you please, wipe that snot off your face and try
again. Thanks in advance.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: America meets the new superpower |
19 Apr 2006 04:55:41 PM |
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Mike Painter wrote:
JTEM wrote:
"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote
The visit of President Hu to Washington underlines the inevitable
loss of America's economic supremacy to China
That's right. The Chinese economy will never mature, and there's
an unlimited supply of natural resources anyway.
And don't let anyone ever tell you differently.
Reminds me of the Japanese who will never be able to do anything except make
cheap toys and copy us.
If China can be as successful as the Japanese, you have something to
brag about. Up to now, Japan is much better than China. You have
nothing to brag about.
Why in WWII they stole plans for a battle ship that was top heavy and their
airplanes were .... better not go there, especially if anybody has seen *****
Rutan's plane that looks remarkable like a WWII war plane the Japanese
developed.
Japan almost swallowed China in WWII and beat almost everybody. You
have to give credit when credit is due.
But at least the Chinese put things in perspective. They visited Bill Gates
first.
Bill Gates needed China more than China needed Bill Gates.
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| User: "JTEM" |
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19 Apr 2006 08:30:10 PM |
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<rst0wxyz@yahoo.com> wrote
Japan almost swallowed China in WWII and beat almost everybody.
In fact, they came in second! Right behind the winners...
Fact is, Japan hadn't the resources to sustain a war. They not only
never came close to winning, they never could have come close.
Japan won huge in China because the Chinese suffered from a lack
of modern military equipment, and the allies simply had a great deal
of difficulty reaching China with supplies. When the Russians arrived
on the scene -- with what was at that time a fully modern military
force -- they made quick work of the Japanese military.
Nobody is disputing the fact that the Japanese had the technical
ability to build as good or better tanks than anyone else, and in
the same numbers or better. What I'm pointing out is that they
simply didn't have the resources to do so -- and never while
maintaining supplies to other areas in their war effort -- and they
certainly didn't have the fuel to keep them going.
Germany was in the same position. I've often heard it said by
armchair historians that the Germans were idiots for building
large & complicated tanks -- like the Tiger or the Panther --
instead of copying the Russian t-34. But that's just nonsense.
The Russians built more t-34 tanks than the Germans built tanks.
If you added up numbers for all the German tank models
combined they didn't equal the number of t-34 tanks that the
Russians built. And for good reason.
Germany didn't have the resources to pure into tanks the
way Russia did. They didn't have the steel, they didn't have
the manpower to produce them, they didn't have the
manpower to operate them and they certainly didn't have
the fuel to keep them going.
A great many German tanks "Lost" during the battle of
the bulge, for example, simply ran out of fuel.
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| User: "Komin" |
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| Title: Re: America meets the new superpower |
19 Apr 2006 09:47:37 PM |
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China is not a Super Power ,
because Chinese naval vessels depend on French and German diesel motors
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Chinese Navy has French Pielstick Motors ,
Chinese Navy has Germa MTU motors .
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: America meets the new superpower |
19 Apr 2006 10:56:24 PM |
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Chinese Navy has French Pielstick Motors ,
Chinese Navy has Germa MTU motors .
How do you know what motor the Chinese Navy use?
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