Religions > Atheism > America, Your God Showed Up Right There In Georgia, The Living Jesus - II-
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11 Sep 2003 08:20:03 AM |
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America, Your God Showed Up Right There In Georgia, The Living Jesus - II- |
In the reign of Bill Clinton
While Zell Miller was Governor of Georgia
and Bill Campbell, Mayor of Altanta
Lo,mind boggling Jesus above Atlanta.
O God Himself reading from earthly pages and He knows
Moses by name...
Are you going to listen to those who say He never existed?
Are you going to importe temples where Jesus' name is not proclaimed
in the name of freedom of religon O America?
Is your social policy based on His Gospel or on Darwin and evolution?
Are you going to let Him purify your Laws?
Is Jesus at the center of your legislation or many other useless gods
take also the stage in the name of corrosive diversity.
Don't you see that diversity is your enemy?
America put Jesus back in your day to day life because He is the King.
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Encore une fois, les mots de Dieu venaient de retentir dans nos langages
humains, c'est pourquoi nos lèvres chanteront Jesus-Christ
jusqu'à la consommation des temps.
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| User: "Charles P" |
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11 Sep 2003 10:50:13 AM |
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"Not-easily-duped" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
America put Jesus back in your day to day life because He is the King.
Wrong! Elvis is the King. And he's still alive.
Encore une fois, les mots de Dieu venaient de retentir dans nos langages
humains, c'est pourquoi nos lèvres chanteront Jesus-Christ
jusqu'à la consommation des temps.
merde!
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| User: "Roshard Davis" |
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11 Sep 2003 06:34:52 PM |
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(Not-easily-duped) wrote in message news:<bbba7302.0309110520.d5ac727@posting.google.com>...
America put Jesus back in your day to day life because He is the King.
How can America put something that never existed back into their
day to day life? Where do weirdos like this guy come from?
Visit My Website:
http://www.geocities.com/freedomwarrior5000
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| User: "Clayton Aguilera the Dirty Pierced Nipple Slut" |
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11 Sep 2003 08:17:27 PM |
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"Roshard Davis" <freedomwarrior5000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7ff746da.0309111534.32c6cefa@posting.google.com...
Codebreaker@bigsecret.com (Not-easily-duped) wrote in message
news:<bbba7302.0309110520.d5ac727@posting.google.com>...
America put Jesus back in your day to day life because He is the King.
How can America put something that never existed back into their
day to day life? Where do weirdos like this guy come from?
America breeds them. They have more fundo idiots per head of population
than any other non-Islamic country. When they find the dumbest, most
religion addled fuckwit in the country...they elect him president.
Visit My Website:
http://www.geocities.com/freedomwarrior5000
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: America, Your God Showed Up Right There In Georgia, The Living Jesus - II- |
12 Sep 2003 07:45:10 AM |
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In article <3f611eb2$0$28120$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>, Clayton Aguilera
the Dirty Pierced Nipple ***** says...
"Roshard Davis" <freedomwarrior5000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7ff746da.0309111534.32c6cefa@posting.google.com...
Codebreaker@bigsecret.com (Not-easily-duped) wrote in message
news:<bbba7302.0309110520.d5ac727@posting.google.com>...
America put Jesus back in your day to day life because He is the King.
How can America put something that never existed back into their
day to day life? Where do weirdos like this guy come from?
America breeds them. They have more fundo idiots per head of population
than any other non-Islamic country. When they find the dumbest, most
religion addled fuckwit in the country...they elect him president.
Nothing like a little America bashing to make MY day <sigh>
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "Not-easily-duped" |
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14 Sep 2003 05:16:32 PM |
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Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote in message news:<qdj8b.19758$cJ5.2227@www.newsranger.com>...
In article <3f611eb2$0$28120$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>, Clayton Aguilera
the Dirty Pierced Nipple ***** says...
"Roshard Davis" <freedomwarrior5000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7ff746da.0309111534.32c6cefa@posting.google.com...
Codebreaker@bigsecret.com (Not-easily-duped) wrote in message
news:<bbba7302.0309110520.d5ac727@posting.google.com>...
America put Jesus back in your day to day life because He is the King.
How can America put something that never existed back into their
day to day life? Where do weirdos like this guy come from?
America breeds them. They have more fundo idiots per head of population
than any other non-Islamic country. When they find the dumbest, most
religion addled fuckwit in the country...they elect him president.
Nothing like a little America bashing to make MY day <sigh>
How many times do you want me to tell you that you can't have it
both way?
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "Critical Popperian" |
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11 Sep 2003 01:02:43 PM |
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America put Jesus back in your day to day life because He is the King.
And you know this how? You just accept it?
Maybe you are smart enough to help me resolve some problems....
Read this:
Problems with the Global Flood
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html
Can you answer this persons questions? Laugh.
Ahh yes, I forgot... you aren't supposed to *THINK* when you are
religious. You are supposed to do what your preacher tells you, and
then he does what his boss tells him, who does what his boss who tells
him up the ladder until you've got someone who says he's speaking to
fairy tale creachers in the sky.
Don't interpret me as anti-religion. I find religion to be a useful
way of controlling people who have stopped thinking for themselves.
The Critical Popperian
http://www.Popperian.com
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| User: "J.R." |
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12 Sep 2003 12:47:14 AM |
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(Critical Popperian) wrote in message news:<d5c19caa.0309111002.6ddc925@posting.google.com>...
America put Jesus back in your day to day life because He is the King.
And you know this how? You just accept it?
Maybe you are smart enough to help me resolve some problems....
Read this:
Problems with the Global Flood
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html
Can you answer this persons questions? Laugh.
Ahh yes, I forgot... you aren't supposed to *THINK* when you are
religious. You are supposed to do what your preacher tells you, and
then he does what his boss tells him, who does what his boss who tells
him up the ladder until you've got someone who says he's speaking to
fairy tale creachers in the sky.
Don't interpret me as anti-religion. I find religion to be a useful
way of controlling people who have stopped thinking for themselves.
The Critical Popperian
http://www.Popperian.com
I find religion useful when I'm in the mood to joke about something.
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| User: "bob young" |
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12 Sep 2003 01:06:08 AM |
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"J.R." wrote:
cp@popperian.com (Critical Popperian) wrote in message news:<d5c19caa.0309111002.6ddc925@posting.google.com>...
America put Jesus back in your day to day life because He is the King.
And you know this how? You just accept it?
Maybe you are smart enough to help me resolve some problems....
Read this:
Problems with the Global Flood
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html
Can you answer this persons questions? Laugh.
Ahh yes, I forgot... you aren't supposed to *THINK* when you are
religious. You are supposed to do what your preacher tells you, and
then he does what his boss tells him, who does what his boss who tells
him up the ladder until you've got someone who says he's speaking to
fairy tale creachers in the sky.
Don't interpret me as anti-religion. I find religion to be a useful
way of controlling people who have stopped thinking for themselves.
The Critical Popperian
http://www.Popperian.com
I find religion useful when I'm in the mood to joke about something.
I was that way too, but now things are different, we are becoming polarised along religious grounds. Polarised
over ''''''NOTHING''''''
It has to stop, before millions die in name of [?] [?] [?] [?]
Bob
Hong Kong
The prayer mat of one aeon is the doormat of the next.."
-Mark Twain
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| User: "The Department of Defense" |
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12 Sep 2003 01:21:41 AM |
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I was that way too, but now things are different, we are becoming
polarised along religious grounds. Polarised
over ''''''NOTHING''''''
It has to stop, before millions die in name of [?] [?] [?]
Bob .... come on .... religion is just part of it...I get the gist of what
you are saying...but you can point out other factors......just look at your
end of the world ...the N.K.ians and Chinese....
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| User: "bob young" |
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12 Sep 2003 02:48:10 AM |
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The Department of Defense wrote:
I was that way too, but now things are different, we are becoming
polarised along religious grounds. Polarised
over ''''''NOTHING''''''
It has to stop, before millions die in name of [?] [?] [?]
Bob .... come on .... religion is just part of it...I get the gist of what
you are saying...but you can point out other factors......just look at your
end of the world ...the N.K.ians and Chinese....
Agreed, seeing the N Koreans goose stepping shows how out of step they are
with the rest of the world.
But so far neither they nor the Chinese have attempted to harm the US because
they are envious, which is another reason for today's problems, in fact the
Chinese generally want to emulate America, not destroy it. Where do the rich
ones send their kids to University? You see plenty of UCA T shirts around!
Asians are workers and understand that you have to get off your butt and do
something if you want to be prosperous. One day China's GDP could pass that
of the USA, some say in 15 years time!
But religion is the cement that binds the 'Middle East terror factions'
together.
Bob
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| User: " Jon Wilhelm" |
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11 Sep 2003 05:00:52 PM |
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I can witness to the fact that as a Christian, Gods wisdom
provides for free will. Moral dictates are at the center and
we as Christians must decide our own course with in the
frame work of the state.
Two points.
First Jesus said " give unto Caesar what is Caesars".
Secondly be good for goodness' sake.
"Critical Popperian" <cp@popperian.com> wrote in message
news:d5c19caa.0309111002.6ddc925@posting.google.com...
America put Jesus back in your day to day life because He is the King.
And you know this how? You just accept it?
Maybe you are smart enough to help me resolve some problems....
Read this:
Problems with the Global Flood
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html
Can you answer this persons questions? Laugh.
Ahh yes, I forgot... you aren't supposed to *THINK* when you are
religious. You are supposed to do what your preacher tells you, and
then he does what his boss tells him, who does what his boss who tells
him up the ladder until you've got someone who says he's speaking to
fairy tale creachers in the sky.
Don't interpret me as anti-religion. I find religion to be a useful
way of controlling people who have stopped thinking for themselves.
The Critical Popperian
http://www.Popperian.com
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| User: "bob young" |
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11 Sep 2003 08:20:08 PM |
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Jon Wilhelm wrote:
I can witness to the fact that as a Christian, Gods wisdom
provides for free will. Moral dictates are at the center and
we as Christians must decide our own course with in the
frame work of the state.
Two points.
First Jesus said " give unto Caesar what is Caesars".
Secondly be good for goodness' sake.
You are quoting as 'gospel' [pardon the pun] what a man called Jesus is
suuposed to have said 2,000 years ago, whereas there is no way in the world of
proving that he said anything of ther sort. You are using a man made book to
control your thoughts when you should be controlling your thoughts yourself.
I might just as well say that a Roman general called Cassius in year 750 told
a corporal to jump into a fast flowing river to rescue the general's dog and
the corporal was executed for refusing to do so! It makes just about as much
sense.
Bob
Hong Kong
"If, at age five, you do not know the gods are
made up things and the myths of impossible tales you are a fool."[Suetonius
75 - 160 AD]
"Critical Popperian" <cp@popperian.com> wrote in message
news:d5c19caa.0309111002.6ddc925@posting.google.com...
America put Jesus back in your day to day life because He is the King.
And you know this how? You just accept it?
Maybe you are smart enough to help me resolve some problems....
Read this:
Problems with the Global Flood
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html
Can you answer this persons questions? Laugh.
Ahh yes, I forgot... you aren't supposed to *THINK* when you are
religious. You are supposed to do what your preacher tells you, and
then he does what his boss tells him, who does what his boss who tells
him up the ladder until you've got someone who says he's speaking to
fairy tale creachers in the sky.
Don't interpret me as anti-religion. I find religion to be a useful
way of controlling people who have stopped thinking for themselves.
The Critical Popperian
http://www.Popperian.com
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| User: " Jon Wilhelm" |
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11 Sep 2003 09:55:19 PM |
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As it goes the advice given "rend unto Caesar
what is Caesars" should be obvious to any
modern man of the past five decades.
Pay your taxes.
Damn good advice on many different levels
but because it comes as what you obviously
perceive as fable you would render it useless.
And sillier still you'd use as your close advice
from 2000 years ago yourself !
How thick and dim witted could you possibly be.
Wisdom comes hard and soft. Aesop's lessons
are as valid today as they were yesterday and all
good advice is timeless. Look both ways before
crossing and check your bag at the McDonald
drive thru contain simple elements of truth and
simple truths are the foundation of wisdom
irregardless of there origin.Try and grasp that.
I like soft but sometimes you learn better the hard
way, if you learn at all.
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:3F611EE5.E891BCEC@netvigator.com...
Jon Wilhelm wrote:
I can witness to the fact that as a Christian, Gods wisdom
provides for free will. Moral dictates are at the center and
we as Christians must decide our own course with in the
frame work of the state.
Two points.
First Jesus said " give unto Caesar what is Caesars".
Secondly be good for goodness' sake.
You are quoting as 'gospel' [pardon the pun] what a man called Jesus is
suuposed to have said 2,000 years ago, whereas there is no way in the
world of
proving that he said anything of ther sort. You are using a man made book
to
control your thoughts when you should be controlling your thoughts
yourself.
I might just as well say that a Roman general called Cassius in year 750
told
a corporal to jump into a fast flowing river to rescue the general's dog
and
the corporal was executed for refusing to do so! It makes just about as
much
sense.
Bob
Hong Kong
"If, at age five, you do not know the gods are
made up things and the myths of impossible tales you are a
fool."[Suetonius
75 - 160 AD]
"Critical Popperian" <cp@popperian.com> wrote in message
news:d5c19caa.0309111002.6ddc925@posting.google.com...
America put Jesus back in your day to day life because He is the
King.
And you know this how? You just accept it?
Maybe you are smart enough to help me resolve some problems....
Read this:
Problems with the Global Flood
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html
Can you answer this persons questions? Laugh.
Ahh yes, I forgot... you aren't supposed to *THINK* when you are
religious. You are supposed to do what your preacher tells you, and
then he does what his boss tells him, who does what his boss who tells
him up the ladder until you've got someone who says he's speaking to
fairy tale creachers in the sky.
Don't interpret me as anti-religion. I find religion to be a useful
way of controlling people who have stopped thinking for themselves.
The Critical Popperian
http://www.Popperian.com
.
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| User: "bob young" |
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12 Sep 2003 12:55:05 AM |
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Jon Wilhelm wrote:
As it goes the advice given "rend unto Caesar
what is Caesars" should be obvious to any
modern man of the past five decades.
Pay your taxes.
Damn good advice on many different levels
but because it comes as what you obviously
perceive as fable you would render it useless.
And sillier still you'd use as your close advice
from 2000 years ago yourself !
How thick and dim witted could you possibly be.
Wisdom comes hard and soft. Aesop's lessons
are as valid today as they were yesterday and all
good advice is timeless. Look both ways before
crossing and check your bag at the McDonald
drive thru contain simple elements of truth and
simple truths are the foundation of wisdom
irregardless of there origin.Try and grasp that.
I like soft but sometimes you learn better the hard
way, if you learn at all.
How indignant religious believers get when they are faced with even the
smallest element of doubt about their fantasy world.
I suppose you are including yourself in the 'modern man' grouping; if so, 'get
modern', start thinking, and dump your superstition in the garbage, where it
belongs.
Both my parents were 'Church of England', so was my school. I was brought up
to worshiip under this banner for many years. Even got 'confirmed' during my
army service. Since then I have traveled form the UK to work in Africa and
Asia. I have seen a good many religions, from beautiful Buddhism, to the mud
hut offerings of Witch Doctors in the African bush. Eventually I got to
realise there was a common thread running through it all. "So many religions -
they can't all be 'true' - of course, none of them are" QED
I can live with people believing in non existent gods, singing, praying and
doing whatever is necessary in a dedicated temple or even a mud hut, provided
they do not bother anyone else, after all it is a free world, or so they say.
But things are different today - today men kill in the name of their non
existent gods - so it is time to say 'enough is enough'
Bob
Hong Kong
Man is a credulous animal, and must believe *something*; in the absence of good
grounds for belief, he will be satisfied with bad ones.
[Bertrand Russell 1892-1970]
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:3F611EE5.E891BCEC@netvigator.com...
Jon Wilhelm wrote:
I can witness to the fact that as a Christian, Gods wisdom
provides for free will. Moral dictates are at the center and
we as Christians must decide our own course with in the
frame work of the state.
Two points.
First Jesus said " give unto Caesar what is Caesars".
Secondly be good for goodness' sake.
You are quoting as 'gospel' [pardon the pun] what a man called Jesus is
suuposed to have said 2,000 years ago, whereas there is no way in the
world of
proving that he said anything of ther sort. You are using a man made book
to
control your thoughts when you should be controlling your thoughts
yourself.
I might just as well say that a Roman general called Cassius in year 750
told
a corporal to jump into a fast flowing river to rescue the general's dog
and
the corporal was executed for refusing to do so! It makes just about as
much
sense.
Bob
Hong Kong
"If, at age five, you do not know the gods are
made up things and the myths of impossible tales you are a
fool."[Suetonius
75 - 160 AD]
"Critical Popperian" <cp@popperian.com> wrote in message
news:d5c19caa.0309111002.6ddc925@posting.google.com...
America put Jesus back in your day to day life because He is the
King.
And you know this how? You just accept it?
Maybe you are smart enough to help me resolve some problems....
Read this:
Problems with the Global Flood
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html
Can you answer this persons questions? Laugh.
Ahh yes, I forgot... you aren't supposed to *THINK* when you are
religious. You are supposed to do what your preacher tells you, and
then he does what his boss tells him, who does what his boss who tells
him up the ladder until you've got someone who says he's speaking to
fairy tale creachers in the sky.
Don't interpret me as anti-religion. I find religion to be a useful
way of controlling people who have stopped thinking for themselves.
The Critical Popperian
http://www.Popperian.com
.
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| User: " Jon Wilhelm" |
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| Title: Re: America, Your God Showed Up Right There In Georgia, The Living Jesus - II- |
12 Sep 2003 04:45:59 PM |
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Alright you are a fool, let go of your prejedice and realise that faith in
and of itself is simply that. What ever I believe is simply that. I can
believe you to be a fool for spending an inordinate amount of time
reflecting on and ridiculing what you believe may or may not be a threat,
now it's easy to claim that
the devil made me do it but what it comes down to is accepting responcabilty
for one's own actions what ever you might believe. This idea that religion
kills people is just that.
If you murder in the name of your God you are still a murderer. A Muslim
homicide bomber may believe in his heart that this one is for Allah and his
perception of the "faith" but what it is is murder. An atheist who straps on
a bomb because of a percieved wrong is also a killer who just happens to be
an atheist. While I abhour Islam and all it stands for I can not and will
not allow for an abdication of responceabilty on the perp because of a faith
in what ever it is he percieves of as the way and the light. Rabid
fanatisism
in any form is the stuff of fools your a rabid athiest fanatic
and there for in my opimion a fool.
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:3F615F45.5FC67346@netvigator.com...
Jon Wilhelm wrote:
As it goes the advice given "rend unto Caesar
what is Caesars" should be obvious to any
modern man of the past five decades.
Pay your taxes.
Damn good advice on many different levels
but because it comes as what you obviously
perceive as fable you would render it useless.
And sillier still you'd use as your close advice
from 2000 years ago yourself !
How thick and dim witted could you possibly be.
Wisdom comes hard and soft. Aesop's lessons
are as valid today as they were yesterday and all
good advice is timeless. Look both ways before
crossing and check your bag at the McDonald
drive thru contain simple elements of truth and
simple truths are the foundation of wisdom
irregardless of there origin.Try and grasp that.
I like soft but sometimes you learn better the hard
way, if you learn at all.
How indignant religious believers get when they are faced with even the
smallest element of doubt about their fantasy world.
I suppose you are including yourself in the 'modern man' grouping; if so,
'get
modern', start thinking, and dump your superstition in the garbage, where
it
belongs.
Both my parents were 'Church of England', so was my school. I was brought
up
to worshiip under this banner for many years. Even got 'confirmed' during
my
army service. Since then I have traveled form the UK to work in Africa
and
Asia. I have seen a good many religions, from beautiful Buddhism, to the
mud
hut offerings of Witch Doctors in the African bush. Eventually I got to
realise there was a common thread running through it all. "So many
religions -
they can't all be 'true' - of course, none of them are" QED
I can live with people believing in non existent gods, singing, praying
and
doing whatever is necessary in a dedicated temple or even a mud hut,
provided
they do not bother anyone else, after all it is a free world, or so they
say.
But things are different today - today men kill in the name of their non
existent gods - so it is time to say 'enough is enough'
Bob
Hong Kong
Man is a credulous animal, and must believe *something*; in the absence of
good
grounds for belief, he will be satisfied with bad ones.
[Bertrand Russell 1892-1970]
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:3F611EE5.E891BCEC@netvigator.com...
Jon Wilhelm wrote:
I can witness to the fact that as a Christian, Gods wisdom
provides for free will. Moral dictates are at the center and
we as Christians must decide our own course with in the
frame work of the state.
Two points.
First Jesus said " give unto Caesar what is Caesars".
Secondly be good for goodness' sake.
You are quoting as 'gospel' [pardon the pun] what a man called Jesus
is
suuposed to have said 2,000 years ago, whereas there is no way in the
world of
proving that he said anything of ther sort. You are using a man made
book
to
control your thoughts when you should be controlling your thoughts
yourself.
I might just as well say that a Roman general called Cassius in year
750
told
a corporal to jump into a fast flowing river to rescue the general's
dog
and
the corporal was executed for refusing to do so! It makes just about
as
much
sense.
Bob
Hong Kong
"If, at age five, you do not know the gods are
made up things and the myths of impossible tales you are a
fool."[Suetonius
75 - 160 AD]
"Critical Popperian" <cp@popperian.com> wrote in message
news:d5c19caa.0309111002.6ddc925@posting.google.com...
America put Jesus back in your day to day life because He is
the
King.
And you know this how? You just accept it?
Maybe you are smart enough to help me resolve some problems....
Read this:
Problems with the Global Flood
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html
Can you answer this persons questions? Laugh.
Ahh yes, I forgot... you aren't supposed to *THINK* when you are
religious. You are supposed to do what your preacher tells you,
and
then he does what his boss tells him, who does what his boss who
tells
him up the ladder until you've got someone who says he's speaking
to
fairy tale creachers in the sky.
Don't interpret me as anti-religion. I find religion to be a
useful
way of controlling people who have stopped thinking for
themselves.
The Critical Popperian
http://www.Popperian.com
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Upon reflectiion you are a fool .
Never mind.
" Jon Wilhelm" <jwilhelm@cfl.rr.com> wrot in message
news:r8r8b.40891$875.1751806@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
Alright you are a fool, let go of your prejedice and realise that faith in
and of itself is simply that. What ever I believe is simply that. I can
believe you to be a fool for spending an inordinate amount of time
reflecting on and ridiculing what you believe may or may not be a threat,
now it's easy to claim that
the devil made me do it but what it comes down to is accepting
responcabilty
for one's own actions what ever you might believe. This idea that religion
kills people is just that.
If you murder in the name of your God you are still a murderer. A Muslim
homicide bomber may believe in his heart that this one is for Allah and
his
perception of the "faith" but what it is is murder. An atheist who straps
on
a bomb because of a percieved wrong is also a killer who just happens to
be
an atheist. While I abhour Islam and all it stands for I can not and will
not allow for an abdication of responceabilty on the perp because of a
faith
in what ever it is he percieves of as the way and the light. Rabid
fanatisism
in any form is the stuff of fools your a rabid athiest fanatic
and there for in my opimion a fool.
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:3F615F45.5FC67346@netvigator.com...
Jon Wilhelm wrote:
As it goes the advice given "rend unto Caesar
what is Caesars" should be obvious to any
modern man of the past five decades.
Pay your taxes.
Damn good advice on many different levels
but because it comes as what you obviously
perceive as fable you would render it useless.
And sillier still you'd use as your close advice
from 2000 years ago yourself !
How thick and dim witted could you possibly be.
Wisdom comes hard and soft. Aesop's lessons
are as valid today as they were yesterday and all
good advice is timeless. Look both ways before
crossing and check your bag at the McDonald
drive thru contain simple elements of truth and
simple truths are the foundation of wisdom
irregardless of there origin.Try and grasp that.
I like soft but sometimes you learn better the hard
way, if you learn at all.
How indignant religious believers get when they are faced with even the
smallest element of doubt about their fantasy world.
I suppose you are including yourself in the 'modern man' grouping; if
so,
'get
modern', start thinking, and dump your superstition in the garbage,
where
it
belongs.
Both my parents were 'Church of England', so was my school. I was
brought
up
to worshiip under this banner for many years. Even got 'confirmed'
during
my
army service. Since then I have traveled form the UK to work in Africa
and
Asia. I have seen a good many religions, from beautiful Buddhism, to
the
mud
hut offerings of Witch Doctors in the African bush. Eventually I got to
realise there was a common thread running through it all. "So many
religions -
they can't all be 'true' - of course, none of them are" QED
I can live with people believing in non existent gods, singing, praying
and
doing whatever is necessary in a dedicated temple or even a mud hut,
provided
they do not bother anyone else, after all it is a free world, or so they
say.
But things are different today - today men kill in the name of their non
existent gods - so it is time to say 'enough is enough'
Bob
Hong Kong
Man is a credulous animal, and must believe *something*; in the absence
of
good
grounds for belief, he will be satisfied with bad ones.
[Bertrand Russell 1892-1970]
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:3F611EE5.E891BCEC@netvigator.com...
Jon Wilhelm wrote:
I can witness to the fact that as a Christian, Gods wisdom
provides for free will. Moral dictates are at the center and
we as Christians must decide our own course with in the
frame work of the state.
Two points.
First Jesus said " give unto Caesar what is Caesars".
Secondly be good for goodness' sake.
You are quoting as 'gospel' [pardon the pun] what a man called Jesus
is
suuposed to have said 2,000 years ago, whereas there is no way in
the
world of
proving that he said anything of ther sort. You are using a man
made
book
to
control your thoughts when you should be controlling your thoughts
yourself.
I might just as well say that a Roman general called Cassius in year
750
told
a corporal to jump into a fast flowing river to rescue the general's
dog
and
the corporal was executed for refusing to do so! It makes just
about
as
much
sense.
Bob
Hong Kong
"If, at age five, you do not know the gods are
made up things and the myths of impossible tales you are a
fool."[Suetonius
75 - 160 AD]
"Critical Popperian" <cp@popperian.com> wrote in message
news:d5c19caa.0309111002.6ddc925@posting.google.com...
America put Jesus back in your day to day life because He is
the
King.
And you know this how? You just accept it?
Maybe you are smart enough to help me resolve some problems....
Read this:
Problems with the Global Flood
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html
Can you answer this persons questions? Laugh.
Ahh yes, I forgot... you aren't supposed to *THINK* when you are
religious. You are supposed to do what your preacher tells you,
and
then he does what his boss tells him, who does what his boss who
tells
him up the ladder until you've got someone who says he's
speaking
to
fairy tale creachers in the sky.
Don't interpret me as anti-religion. I find religion to be a
useful
way of controlling people who have stopped thinking for
themselves.
The Critical Popperian
http://www.Popperian.com
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11 Sep 2003 04:04:17 PM |
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Isn't this a Charlie Daniels song or something?
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| User: "bob young" |
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11 Sep 2003 08:15:08 PM |
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Not-easily-duped wrote:
In the reign of Bill Clinton
While Zell Miller was Governor of Georgia
and Bill Campbell, Mayor of Altanta
Lo,mind boggling Jesus above Atlanta.
O God Himself reading from earthly pages and He knows
Moses by name...
Are you going to listen to those who say He never existed?
Are you going to importe temples where Jesus' name is not proclaimed
in the name of freedom of religon O America?
Is your social policy based on His Gospel or on Darwin and evolution?
Are you going to let Him purify your Laws?
Is Jesus at the center of your legislation or many other useless gods
take also the stage in the name of corrosive diversity.
Don't you see that diversity is your enemy?
America put Jesus back in your day to day life because He is the King.
'HE' is imaginary superstition our simple ancestors dreamed up
bob
Hong Kong
Expedit esse deos, et, ut expedit, esse putemus
It is convenient that there be gods, let us believe that there are [Ovid 34 BC
- c.17 AD]
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| User: "tooly" |
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12 Sep 2003 12:39:50 PM |
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:3F611D8E.702742B@netvigator.com...
Not-easily-duped wrote:
In the reign of Bill Clinton
While Zell Miller was Governor of Georgia
and Bill Campbell, Mayor of Altanta
Lo,mind boggling Jesus above Atlanta.
O God Himself reading from earthly pages and He knows
Moses by name...
Are you going to listen to those who say He never existed?
Are you going to importe temples where Jesus' name is not proclaimed
in the name of freedom of religon O America?
Is your social policy based on His Gospel or on Darwin and evolution?
Are you going to let Him purify your Laws?
Is Jesus at the center of your legislation or many other useless gods
take also the stage in the name of corrosive diversity.
Don't you see that diversity is your enemy?
America put Jesus back in your day to day life because He is the King.
'HE' is imaginary superstition our simple ancestors dreamed up
bob
Hong Kong
Expedit esse deos, et, ut expedit, esse putemus
It is convenient that there be gods, let us believe that there are [Ovid
34 BC
- c.17 AD]
When you see fine art, do you judge it for content only? Expression is what
is important. Usually no one can define what an artist meant...but relate
more on what an artist felt.
Whatever Jesus was or wasn't, one thing is for sure. The Human Being saw
cause to find his own identity in the ICON, for sake of his nature. Names,
stories...language of any sort...all but content and I doubt even Jesus
would have been so enamoured with us today that we understand just 'words'
and content'. He would be more interesting in us realizing the art itself,
as life as he felt and saw it. The single word God is probably important to
how he saw though. Perhaps we should throw out the Bible except for that
one word...and start anew. Words seem to get in our way these days...and we
fall from own nature IMO.
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| User: "Yang, Fairer Than Fox and More Balanced than John Pointdexter" |
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12 Sep 2003 09:45:10 PM |
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On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 13:39:50 -0400, "tooly" <rdh11@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:3F611D8E.702742B@netvigator.com...
Not-easily-duped wrote:
In the reign of Bill Clinton
While Zell Miller was Governor of Georgia
and Bill Campbell, Mayor of Altanta
Lo,mind boggling Jesus above Atlanta.
O God Himself reading from earthly pages and He knows
Moses by name...
Are you going to listen to those who say He never existed?
Are you going to importe temples where Jesus' name is not proclaimed
in the name of freedom of religon O America?
Is your social policy based on His Gospel or on Darwin and evolution?
Are you going to let Him purify your Laws?
Is Jesus at the center of your legislation or many other useless gods
take also the stage in the name of corrosive diversity.
Don't you see that diversity is your enemy?
America put Jesus back in your day to day life because He is the King.
'HE' is imaginary superstition our simple ancestors dreamed up
bob
Hong Kong
Expedit esse deos, et, ut expedit, esse putemus
It is convenient that there be gods, let us believe that there are [Ovid
34 BC
- c.17 AD]
When you see fine art, do you judge it for content only? Expression is what
is important. Usually no one can define what an artist meant...but relate
more on what an artist felt.
Whatever Jesus was or wasn't, one thing is for sure. The Human Being saw
cause to find his own identity in the ICON, for sake of his nature. Names,
stories...language of any sort...all but content and I doubt even Jesus
would have been so enamoured with us today that we understand just 'words'
and content'. He would be more interesting in us realizing the art itself,
as life as he felt and saw it. The single word God is probably important to
how he saw though. Perhaps we should throw out the Bible except for that
one word...and start anew. Words seem to get in our way these days...and we
fall from own nature IMO.
And IMO such idealization of the supposed golden past represents a
form of false nostagia. If words are impefect now, then they are no
less so then. The art of the 'natural' past was berefit of Da Vinci,
George Gershwin, and all the human geniuses that have accumulated
through the ages. Not to mention the fact that your life expectancy
would have been less than a third of what you have now.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Socerey Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balance' budget: -455 billion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -288 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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11 Sep 2003 07:12:24 PM |
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On 11 Sep 2003 06:20:03 -0700,
(Not-easily-duped) wrote:
drivel snip... (mostly..)
Is Jesus at the center of your legislation or many other useless gods
take also the stage in the name of corrosive diversity.
I'm reading a book right now called 'The Profits of Religion' by
Upton Sinclair. You can find it below. A fascinating critique about
how religion has infected human leadership and life.
http://www.worldwideschool.org/library/books/relg/criticism/TheProfitsofReligion/chap2.html
Don't you see that diversity is your enemy?
Let's gather every bit of religious literature, except anything
christian, and burn it. That would be the historical christian thing
to do.
Gee.... I hope that's not too Nazi for you. Naw... You're
christians, so it's okay.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: America, Your God Showed Up Right There In Georgia, The Living Jesus - II- |
11 Sep 2003 11:28:21 AM |
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On 11 Sep 2003 06:20:03 -0700, several witnesses claim to have seen
Codebreaker@bigsecret.com (Not-easily-duped) scrawl a message on the
wall:
America put Jesus back in your day to day life because He is the King.
No, Elvis is the King. Clapton is God.
--
Douglas Berry
http://gridlore.home.mindspring.com
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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11 Sep 2003 09:50:41 AM |
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 06:20:03 -0700, Not-easily-duped wrote:
In the reign of Bill Clinton
While Zell Miller was Governor of Georgia and Bill Campbell, Mayor of
Altanta
Lo,mind boggling Jesus above Atlanta. O God Himself reading from earthly
pages and He knows Moses by name...
Are you going to listen to those who say He never existed? Are you going
to importe temples where Jesus' name is not proclaimed in the name of
freedom of religon O America? Is your social policy based on His Gospel
or on Darwin and evolution? Are you going to let Him purify your Laws? Is
Jesus at the center of your legislation or many other useless gods take
also the stage in the name of corrosive diversity. Don't you see that
diversity is your enemy?
America put Jesus back in your day to day life because He is the King.
Ah yes. Dictatorship...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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| User: "Not-easily-duped" |
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14 Sep 2003 05:15:04 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote in message news:<pan.2003.09.11.14.50.41.34092@eac.org>...
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 06:20:03 -0700, Not-easily-duped wrote:
In the reign of Bill Clinton
While Zell Miller was Governor of Georgia and Bill Campbell, Mayor of
Altanta
Lo,mind boggling Jesus above Atlanta. O God Himself reading from earthly
pages and He knows Moses by name...
Are you going to listen to those who say He never existed? Are you going
to importe temples where Jesus' name is not proclaimed in the name of
freedom of religon O America? Is your social policy based on His Gospel
or on Darwin and evolution? Are you going to let Him purify your Laws? Is
Jesus at the center of your legislation or many other useless gods take
also the stage in the name of corrosive diversity. Don't you see that
diversity is your enemy?
America put Jesus back in your day to day life because He is the King.
Ah yes. Dictatorship...
Whatever! If you don't like it go and drink from the sea.
You like ACLU's dictatorship, don't you.
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| User: "ishka bibble" |
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11 Sep 2003 02:29:25 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote in message news:<pan.2003.09.11.14.50.41.34092@eac.org>...
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 06:20:03 -0700, Not-easily-duped wrote:
In the reign of Bill Clinton
While Zell Miller was Governor of Georgia and Bill Campbell, Mayor of
Altanta
Lo,mind boggling Jesus above Atlanta. O God Himself reading from earthly
pages and He knows Moses by name...
Are you going to listen to those who say He never existed? Are you going
to importe temples where Jesus' name is not proclaimed in the name of
freedom of religon O America? Is your social policy based on His Gospel
or on Darwin and evolution? Are you going to let Him purify your Laws? Is
Jesus at the center of your legislation or many other useless gods take
also the stage in the name of corrosive diversity. Don't you see that
diversity is your enemy?
America put Jesus back in your day to day life because He is the King.
Ah yes. Dictatorship...
i'm even surprised you have any idea what the hell he's talking about
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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11 Sep 2003 06:39:15 PM |
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:29:25 -0700, ishka bibble wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote in message
news:<pan.2003.09.11.14.50.41.34092@eac.org>...
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 06:20:03 -0700, Not-easily-duped wrote:
In the reign of Bill Clinton
While Zell Miller was Governor of Georgia and Bill Campbell, Mayor of
Altanta
Lo,mind boggling Jesus above Atlanta. O God Himself reading from
earthly pages and He knows Moses by name...
Are you going to listen to those who say He never existed? Are you
going to importe temples where Jesus' name is not proclaimed in the
name of freedom of religon O America? Is your social policy based on
His Gospel or on Darwin and evolution? Are you going to let Him
purify your Laws? Is Jesus at the center of your legislation or many
other useless gods take also the stage in the name of corrosive
diversity. Don't you see that diversity is your enemy?
America put Jesus back in your day to day life because He is the
King.
Ah yes. Dictatorship...
i'm even surprised you have any idea what the hell he's talking about
Boinky, boinky, boinky!
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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