Religions > Atheism > American Bar Associations Votes Unanimousloy To Review Shrub's Legal Challenges
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American Bar Associations Votes Unanimousloy To Review Shrub's Legal Challenges |
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2006/06/04/bar_group_will_review_bushs_legal_challenges/
He's made more than all previous Presidents added together.
He wasn't joking about liking the idea of being a dictator.
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| Title: Re: American Bar Associations Votes Unanimousloy To Review Shrub's Legal Challenges |
05 Jun 2006 11:49:58 PM |
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In article <saydnXGenK1cnhjZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2006/06/04/bar_group_wil
l_review_bushs_legal_challenges/
He's made more than all previous Presidents added together.
He wasn't joking about liking the idea of being a dictator.
It's about time someone got on his case over this. He must have
forgotten what happened to our last King George.
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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| Title: Re: American Bar Associations Votes Unanimousloy To Review Shrub's Legal Challenges |
06 Jun 2006 01:11:17 AM |
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On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 21:49:58 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <saydnXGenK1cnhjZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2006/06/04/bar_group_wil
l_review_bushs_legal_challenges/
He's made more than all previous Presidents added together.
He wasn't joking about liking the idea of being a dictator.
It's about time someone got on his case over this. He must have
forgotten what happened to our last King George.
Hear hear!
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The Bush 'balanced' budget: 2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2475 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: American Bar Associations Votes Unanimousloy To Review Shrub's Legal Challenges |
11 Jun 2006 08:41:11 PM |
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On Tue, 6 Jun 2006 00:25:45 -0400, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in alt.atheism
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2006/06/04/bar_group_will_review_bushs_legal_challenges/
He's made more than all previous Presidents added together.
He wasn't joking about liking the idea of being a dictator.
This groups much much too late. That should have been done six years
ago. Now that the USSC has been stacked the fat ladys been serenading
the world.
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Bar group will review Bush's legal challenges
By Charlie Savage, Globe Staff | June 4, 2006
WASHINGTON -- The board of governors of the American Bar Association
voted unanimously yesterday to investigate whether President Bush has
exceeded his constitutional authority in reserving the right to ignore
more than 750 laws that have been enacted since he took office.
Meeting in New Orleans, the board of governors for the world's largest
association of legal professionals approved the creation of an all-star
legal panel with a number of members from both political parties.
They include a former federal appeals court chief judge, a former FBI
director, and several prominent scholars -- to evaluate Bush's
assertions that he has the power to ignore laws that conflict with his
interpretation of the Constitution.
Bush has appended statements to new laws when he signs them, noting
which provisions he believes interfere with his powers.
Among the laws Bush has challenged are the ban on torturing detainees,
oversight provisions in the USA Patriot Act, and ``whistle-blower"
protections for federal employees.
The challenges also have included safeguards against political
interference in taxpayer-funded research.
Bush has challenged more laws than all previous presidents combined.
The ABA's president, Michael Greco, said in an interview that he
proposed the task force because he believes the scope and aggressiveness
of Bush's signing statements may raise serious constitutional concerns.
He said the ABA, which has more than 400,000 members, has a duty to
speak out about such legal issues to the public, the courts, and
Congress.
``The American Bar Association feels a very serious obligation to ensure
that when there are legal issues that affect the American people, the
ABA adopts a policy regarding such issues and then speaks out about it,"
Greco said. ``In this instance, the president's practice of attaching
signing statements to laws squarely presents a constitutional issue
about the separation of powers among the three branches."
The signing statements task force, which was recruited by Greco, a
longtime Boston lawyer who served on former Governor William F. Weld's
Judicial Nominating Council, includes several Republicans. Among them
are Mickey Edwards , a former Oklahoma representative from 1977 to 1993,
and Bruce Fein , a Justice Department official under President Reagan.
In interviews, several of the panel members said they were going into
the project with an open mind, but they expressed concerns about Bush's
actions.
``I think one of the most critical issues in the country right now is
the extent to which the White House has tried to expand its powers and
basically tried to cut the legislative branch out of its own
constitutionally equal role, and the signing statements are a
particularly egregious example of that," Edwards said. ``I've been doing
a lot of speaking and writing about this, and when the ABA said they
were looking to take a position on signing statements, I said that's
serious because those people carry a lot of weight."
William Sessions , a retired federal judge who was the director of the
FBI under both Reagan and President George H.W. Bush , said he agreed to
participate because he believed that the signing statements raise a
``serious problem" for the American constitutional system.
``I think it's very important for the people of the United States to
have trust and reliance that the president is not going around the law,"
Sessions said. ``The importance of it speaks for itself."
Another member, Patricia Wald, is a retired chief judge of the US Court
of Appeals for the District of Columbia, appointed by President Carter.
She said she had monitored the use of signing statements by previous
administrations, but ``the accelerated use in recent years presents a
real question about separation of powers and checks and balances."
Wald also said she was especially interested in studying how signing
statements affect the federal bureaucracy. As a judge, Wald said, she
dealt with many cases involving challenges to decisions made by
administrative agencies. She said that courts are deferential to such
decisions because they are supposed to be made by objective specialists
in the agencies. But a heavy use of signing statements could call that
assumption into question.
``If Congress passes a law telling the people in the bureaucracy that
`this is what you should do,' and the president signs it but attaches a
statement saying `I don't want you to do it,' how is that going to
affect the motivation of the bureaucracy?" she said.
The task force also includes several prominent legal scholars, such as
Harold Koh , dean of Yale Law School and a former official in the Reagan
and Clinton administrations; Kathleen Sullivan , former dean of Stanford
Law School; Charles Ogletree , a Harvard law professor; and Stephen
Saltzburg , a professor at George Washington University Law School.
Saltzburg -- who was a Justice Department official under Reagan and the
first president Bush, as well as a prosecutor in the Iran-Contra scandal
-- said he did not believe that signing statements were
unconstitutional.
But, he said, frequent use of them could create bad perceptions about
whether the US government obeys the rule of law.
``The president can say anything he wants when he signs a bill,"
Saltzburg said. ``[But] what does it say about respect for the
Constitution and for the notion of checks and balances to have the
president repeatedly claim the authority not to obey statutes, which he
is signing into law?"
Rounding out the panel are Mark Agrast , a former legislative counsel
for Representative William D. Delahunt , Democrat of Quincy, and Thomas
Susman, who worked in the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel
under both Presidents Johnson and Nixon , and was later counsel to the
Senate Judiciary Committee.
Susman said he agreed to serve out of intellectual curiosity: ``I think
it's a fascinating subject," he said. The task force is chaired by Neal
Sonnett , a former federal prosecutor. Earlier this year, Sonnett
chaired a similar ABA panel of bipartisan specialists who studied the
legality of Bush's warrantless spying program.
The earlier panel unanimously concluded that Bush should obey a law
requiring warrants for such surveillance, or he should ask Congress to
change the law, rather than simply ignoring it.
In February, the ABA House of Delegates voted overwhelmingly to endorse
the surveillance task force's recommendations, enabling Greco to testify
about the program before Congress.
Sonnett said he planned to run the task force in a similar fashion. The
group will discuss the issues in telephone conference calls. They will
also divide up issues to research for the report that will accompany any
of their recommendations, circulating drafts until they reach a
consensus.
The task force will make its recommendation this summer, Greco said, and
the 550-member ABA House of Delegates will vote on whether to adopt its
findings at a meeting in August.
The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Arlen Specter,
Republican of Pennsylvania, promised to hold a hearing on Bush's use of
signing statements.
Specter pledged the action after an article in The Boston Globe
described the scope and details of Bush's assertions concerning the laws
in them.
Greco and Sonnett also said the Globe's coverage of signing statements
had persuaded them to launch the task force .
© Copyright 2006 Globe Newspaper Company
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