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09 Oct 2006 08:53:48 PM |
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Americans win Nobel for Big-bang Study in Physics |
"Academy says physicists' work changed out view of univers's infancy.
By Matt Crenson
Updated: 3:08 p.m. PT Oct 3, 2006
NEW YORK - Two Americans won a Nobel prize Tuesday for taking baby pictures
of the universe.
George F. Smoot of Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in California and
John C. Mather of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland were
awarded science's highest honor for depicting the universe as it was 380,000
years after its birth in the Big Bang.
Their feat, precisely measuring the faint light that revealed the seeds of
today's galaxies and superclusters, affirmed the big-bang theory to even the
most stubborn skeptics."
More here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15113168/
And on a lighter note this newsworthy story:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15197558/
Whew
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| User: "Carlos Trevino" |
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| Title: Re: Americans win Nobel for Big-bang Study in Physics |
09 Oct 2006 09:21:53 PM |
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"WhewNotSaved" <WhewNotSaved@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:166dnTMhN5auYLfYnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
"Academy says physicists' work changed out view of univers's infancy.
By Matt Crenson
Updated: 3:08 p.m. PT Oct 3, 2006
NEW YORK - Two Americans won a Nobel prize Tuesday for taking baby
pictures of the universe.
George F. Smoot of Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in California and
John C. Mather of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland were
awarded science's highest honor for depicting the universe as it was
380,000 years after its birth in the Big Bang.
Their feat, precisely measuring the faint light that revealed the seeds of
today's galaxies and superclusters, affirmed the big-bang theory to even
the most stubborn skeptics."
More here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15113168/
And on a lighter note this newsworthy story:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15197558/
Whew
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^^^The Perpetrator of a Wrong Never Forgives His Victims
This new Big Bang theory seems to imply that it all started AFTER a
trillionth of a trillionth of a second AFTER matter came into existence.
Am I reading the article correctly? It sounds like matter came into
existence from the void of space first and this new theory does not factor
that into the equation.
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Carlos Trevino
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"It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would
make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven
symphony as a variation of wave pressure." -- Albert Einstein
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09 Oct 2006 09:38:12 PM |
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"Carlos Trevino" <carlos@remove.rr.com> wrote in message
news:5tDWg.37455$5o5.25887@tornado.texas.rr.com...
"WhewNotSaved" <WhewNotSaved@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:166dnTMhN5auYLfYnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
"Academy says physicists' work changed out view of univers's infancy.
By Matt Crenson
Updated: 3:08 p.m. PT Oct 3, 2006
NEW YORK - Two Americans won a Nobel prize Tuesday for taking baby
pictures of the universe.
George F. Smoot of Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in California
and John C. Mather of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland were
awarded science's highest honor for depicting the universe as it was
380,000 years after its birth in the Big Bang.
Their feat, precisely measuring the faint light that revealed the seeds
of today's galaxies and superclusters, affirmed the big-bang theory to
even the most stubborn skeptics."
More here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15113168/
And on a lighter note this newsworthy story:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15197558/
Whew
--
*********************************************************************
^^^The Perpetrator of a Wrong Never Forgives His Victims
This new Big Bang theory seems to imply that it all started AFTER a
trillionth of a trillionth of a second AFTER matter came into existence.
Am I reading the article correctly? It sounds like matter came into
existence from the void of space first and this new theory does not factor
that into the equation.
--
Carlos Trevino
I'm no genious, but the article said that for an itsy bitsy trillionth of a
nano=second the land mass was travelling faster that the speed of light and
that created the baby earth.
But then again, I thought the article about beating someone up with a baby
was much more entertaining.
Whew
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"It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would
make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a
Beethoven
symphony as a variation of wave pressure." -- Albert Einstein
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| User: "Carlos Trevino" |
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| Title: Re: Americans win Nobel for Big-bang Study in Physics |
09 Oct 2006 09:44:31 PM |
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"WhewNotSaved" <WhewNotSaved@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Carlos Trevino" <carlos@remove.rr.com> wrote in message
news:5tDWg.37455$5o5.25887@tornado.texas.rr.com...
"WhewNotSaved" <WhewNotSaved@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:166dnTMhN5auYLfYnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
"Academy says physicists' work changed out view of univers's infancy.
By Matt Crenson
Updated: 3:08 p.m. PT Oct 3, 2006
NEW YORK - Two Americans won a Nobel prize Tuesday for taking baby
pictures of the universe.
George F. Smoot of Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in California
and John C. Mather of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland
were awarded science's highest honor for depicting the universe as it
was 380,000 years after its birth in the Big Bang.
Their feat, precisely measuring the faint light that revealed the seeds
of today's galaxies and superclusters, affirmed the big-bang theory to
even the most stubborn skeptics."
More here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15113168/
And on a lighter note this newsworthy story:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15197558/
Whew
--
*********************************************************************
^^^The Perpetrator of a Wrong Never Forgives His Victims
This new Big Bang theory seems to imply that it all started AFTER a
trillionth of a trillionth of a second AFTER matter came into existence.
Am I reading the article correctly? It sounds like matter came into
existence from the void of space first and this new theory does not
factor that into the equation.
--
Carlos Trevino
I'm no genious, but the article said that for an itsy bitsy trillionth of
a
nano=second the land mass was travelling faster that the speed of light
and
that created the baby earth.
But then again, I thought the article about beating someone up with a baby
was much more entertaining.
Whew
OK, I see what you're saying.
As for the article about the poor baby you should be ashamed of yourself for
making me laugh.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Americans win Nobel for Big-bang Study in Physics |
10 Oct 2006 12:03:10 PM |
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On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 02:21:53 GMT, "Carlos Trevino"
<carlos@remove.rr.com> wrote:
This new Big Bang theory
What new theory?
seems to imply that it all started AFTER a
trillionth of a trillionth of a second AFTER matter came into existence.
It "all started" at exactly the instant (or maybe one Planck time
after) it all started. What you say doesn't even scan, let alone mean
anything.
Am I reading the article correctly?
About Smoot's work? Since there's no "new Big Bang theory",
evidently not. Smoot modeled what happened when the universe lost its
opacity - that has nothing to do with how the universe came into
existence.
It sounds like matter came into
existence from the void of space first and this new theory does not factor
that into the equation.
Matter came into being. Period. Since time came into existence at
the same instant that matter did (time is a property of the universe),
talking about what was there "before" matter came into existence is
like talking about what's north of the North Pole - the concept itself
is invalid.
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rukbat at optonline dot net
If you are open to the point of gullibility and have not an
ounce of skeptical sense in you, then you cannot distinguish
the useful ideas from the worthless ones
- Carl Sagan, 1987.
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| User: "Carlos Trevino" |
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| Title: Re: Americans win Nobel for Big-bang Study in Physics |
10 Oct 2006 07:50:29 PM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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Matter came into being. Period.
Thanks for clarifying. It just explains the expasion of space. At least I
know the Bible and science agree that there was a starting point to the
universe as we know it.
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Carlos Trevino
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"It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would
make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven
symphony as a variation of wave pressure." -- Albert Einstein
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Americans win Nobel for Big-bang Study in Physics |
11 Oct 2006 09:14:35 AM |
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 00:50:29 GMT, "Carlos Trevino"
<carlos@remove.rr.com> wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
<snip>
Matter came into being. Period.
Thanks for clarifying. It just explains the expasion of space. At least I
know the Bible and science agree that there was a starting point to the
universe as we know it.
To the contrary:
Science says that matter came into being. It doesn't address "before"
that, since there was no "before" - time came into being at the same
point. Since we have no idea what was at the point at which matter
came into being, science can't address it.
One thing science definitely DOESN'T say is that there was a starting
point for everything. The universe "as we know it"? Yes, at some
nebulous point within a few hundred thousand (or a few million or a
few hundred million) years of matter coming into existence. We don't
know exactly when it became "as we know it" because that phrase is too
nebulous to mean anything. Science is specific. It puts a point on
the universe coming into existence, matter coalescing out of the
primordial soup, space losing its opacity - specific things. Which
"as we know it" were you referring to?
Religion addresses this in the same way it addresses everything it has
no information about - it makes something up. There's no connection
between the way science describes the event and the way religion
describes the event.
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rukbat at optonline dot net
The most curious social convention of the great age in which we live is the
one to the effect that religious opinions should be respected.
-- H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Moaner Lisa" |
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| Title: Re: Americans win Nobel for Big-bang Study in Physics |
15 Oct 2006 06:11:04 PM |
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In article <166dnTMhN5auYLfYnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com>, had the
nerve to say...
George F. Smoot of Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in California and
John C. Mather of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland were
awarded science's highest honor for depicting the universe as it was 380,000
years after its birth in the Big Bang.
Weren't we all pretty much created from a Big Bang? At least, that's what my momma said she
got.
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WHAT WOULD JESUS DO...
....for a Klondike Bar?
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| User: "St. Jackanapes" |
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24 Oct 2006 07:22:52 PM |
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In alt.flame.jesus.christ, Moaner Lisa spewed out...
In article <166dnTMhN5auYLfYnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com>, had the
nerve to say...
George F. Smoot of Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in California and
John C. Mather of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland were
awarded science's highest honor for depicting the universe as it was 380,000
years after its birth in the Big Bang.
Weren't we all pretty much created from a Big Bang? At least, that's what my momma said she
got.
I felt that way once after a Big Bong.
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St. Jackanapes
~Bearer of The One True Liver~
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Forum: http://www.voy.com/20630/
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| User: "Midwinter" |
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| Title: Re: Americans win Nobel for Big-bang Study in Physics |
25 Oct 2006 08:13:17 AM |
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St. Jackanapes <larry_jackowski@SPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
Weren't we all pretty much created from a Big Bang? At least, that's
what my momma said she got.
Do you know, I've never felt inclined to ask my mother about her sexual
experiences? And thankfully, she's never volunteered the information.
Call me prudish, if you like, but I can't say I've ever been curious on the
subject.
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| User: "Deborah DeStefano" |
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25 Oct 2006 10:42:50 AM |
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"Midwinter" <midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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St. Jackanapes <larry_jackowski@SPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
Weren't we all pretty much created from a Big Bang? At least, that's
what my momma said she got.
Do you know, I've never felt inclined to ask my mother about her sexual
experiences? And thankfully, she's never volunteered the information.
Call me prudish, if you like, but I can't say I've ever been curious on
the
subject.
Agreed. I don't even want to know if I was breast fed sure hope not
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| User: "St. Jackanapes" |
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25 Oct 2006 11:36:08 AM |
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In alt.flame.jesus.christ, Midwinter spewed out...
St. Jackanapes <larry_jackowski@SPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
Weren't we all pretty much created from a Big Bang? At least, that's
what my momma said she got.
Do you know, I've never felt inclined to ask my mother about her sexual
experiences? And thankfully, she's never volunteered the information.
Call me prudish, if you like, but I can't say I've ever been curious on the
subject.
You know, I'm a very curious person. Excessively so. But that's one bit
of information I don't want to know anything about
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St. Jackanapes
~Bearer of The One True Liver~
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| User: "Father Haskell" |
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16 Oct 2006 12:54:09 PM |
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Moaner Lisa wrote:
In article <166dnTMhN5auYLfYnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com>, had the
nerve to say...
George F. Smoot of Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in California and
John C. Mather of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland were
awarded science's highest honor for depicting the universe as it was 380,000
years after its birth in the Big Bang.
Weren't we all pretty much created from a Big Bang? At least, that's what my momma said she
got.
Some were created from a Big Turkey Baster.
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| User: "WhewNotSaved" |
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| Title: Re: Americans win Nobel for Big-bang Study in Physics |
16 Oct 2006 01:19:19 PM |
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"Father Haskell" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1161021249.253228.189180@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
Moaner Lisa wrote:
In article <166dnTMhN5auYLfYnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
WhewNotSaved@gmail.com had the
nerve to say...
George F. Smoot of Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in California
and
John C. Mather of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland were
awarded science's highest honor for depicting the universe as it was
380,000
years after its birth in the Big Bang.
Weren't we all pretty much created from a Big Bang? At least, that's what
my momma said she
got.
Some were created from a Big Turkey Baster.
And others from some big turkey bastards
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