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"quibbler" |
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03 Oct 2006 09:58:36 PM |
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Amish School Shooting by Theist Charles Carl Roberts IV |
A couple salient points come to mind.
(1) Repugs claimed that school shootings happened because "God was
taken out of the classroom". But God was never taken out of Amish
classrooms
(2) Some articles have quoted the killer, Charles Karl Roberts IV as
saying he was "mad at God" about his premature daughter dying 20 minutes
after birth about 9 years ago. This means that he is not an atheist,
since he believes in god. An atheist would not believe in any god to be
mad at.
(3) Roberts wife frequently invoked requests for prayer after the
event, indicating that she is a believer too and thus bolstering the
idea that her husband had similar faith commitments.
(4) People who act out dreams and fantasies more closely correspond to
the ideals of religious people, going all the way back to bible times.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/03/amish.shooting/index.html
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Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Amish School Shooting by Theist Charles Carl Roberts IV |
08 Oct 2006 04:06:31 PM |
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On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 15:58:36 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
A couple salient points come to mind.
(1) Repugs claimed that school shootings happened because "God was
taken out of the classroom". But God was never taken out of Amish
classrooms
(2) Some articles have quoted the killer, Charles Karl Roberts IV as
saying he was "mad at God" about his premature daughter dying 20 minutes
after birth about 9 years ago. This means that he is not an atheist,
since he believes in god. An atheist would not believe in any god to be
mad at.
(3) Roberts wife frequently invoked requests for prayer after the
event, indicating that she is a believer too and thus bolstering the
idea that her husband had similar faith commitments.
(4) People who act out dreams and fantasies more closely correspond to
the ideals of religious people, going all the way back to bible times.
Far too many theists aren't interested in facts.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/03/amish.shooting/index.html
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Amish School Shooting by Theist Charles Carl Roberts IV |
03 Oct 2006 10:27:33 PM |
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On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 15:58:36 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
A couple salient points come to mind.
(1) Repugs claimed that school shootings happened because "God was
taken out of the classroom". But God was never taken out of Amish
classrooms
Hey, dummie quib, he wasn't Amish.
(2) Some articles have quoted the killer, Charles Karl Roberts IV as
saying he was "mad at God" about his premature daughter dying 20 minutes
after birth about 9 years ago. This means that he is not an atheist,
since he believes in god. An atheist would not believe in any god to be
mad at.
But he violated his belief and acted as an atheist would.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: Amish School Shooting by Theist Charles Carl Roberts IV |
03 Oct 2006 11:02:19 PM |
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In article <mpo5i21kvlu408s4fttr8cjg8jgsdtudti@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...
On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 15:58:36 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
A couple salient points come to mind.
(1) Repugs claimed that school shootings happened because "God was
taken out of the classroom". But God was never taken out of Amish
classrooms
Hey, dummie quib, he wasn't Amish.
It's just incredible that you're so fucking stupid that you can't even
grasp this obvious point. It is utterly irrelevant whether the shooter
was Amish. Amish school are religious cults and thus, it is a
certainty that "god" and the bible were heavily touted and taught in this
school, not that it did one fucking bit of good. Fanatic devotion to the
fantasy bible god, in an Amish classroom, or anywhere else, demonstrably
does nothing to prevent school shootings. If the argument is that this
guy was the way he was because he grew up in a classroom "without god"
then this would appear to be strongly contradicted by the fact that his
wife and family appear to be strongly religious. He would have gotten
plenty of exposure to religion, but he, like you, was simply mentally
ill.
(2) Some articles have quoted the killer, Charles Karl Roberts IV as
saying he was "mad at God" about his premature daughter dying 20 minutes
after birth about 9 years ago. This means that he is not an atheist,
since he believes in god. An atheist would not believe in any god to be
mad at.
But he violated his belief and acted as an atheist would.
Wrong, as usual. Xians believe that god will forgive them as long as
they mouth the words "I wuv u jebus" before they snuff it. So according
to your moronic and delusional creed, this guy could be in heaven right
now, being rewarded for his killing spree by Jebus. Furthermore, if god
didn't want this to happen he easily could have caused the guy's gun to
jam, made the guy have a heart-attack, or even just fall into a coma. In
other words, it woudl have been effortless for god to stop theses actions
in a way that did not even apparently violate free will. The most
reasonable explanation is that god does not exist, and you're a fucking
moron for thinking otherwise.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "leo" |
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| Title: Re: Amish School Shooting by Theist Charles Carl Roberts IV |
03 Oct 2006 11:32:13 PM |
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quibbler ha escrito:
In article <mpo5i21kvlu408s4fttr8cjg8jgsdtudti@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...
On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 15:58:36 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
A couple salient points come to mind.
(1) Repugs claimed that school shootings happened because "God was
taken out of the classroom". But God was never taken out of Amish
classrooms
Hey, dummie quib, he wasn't Amish.
It's just incredible that you're so fucking stupid that you can't even
grasp this obvious point. It is utterly irrelevant whether the shooter
was Amish. Amish school are religious cults and thus, it is a
certainty that "god" and the bible were heavily touted and taught in this
school, not that it did one fucking bit of good. Fanatic devotion to the
fantasy bible god, in an Amish classroom, or anywhere else, demonstrably
does nothing to prevent school shootings. If the argument is that this
guy was the way he was because he grew up in a classroom "without god"
then this would appear to be strongly contradicted by the fact that his
wife and family appear to be strongly religious. He would have gotten
plenty of exposure to religion, but he, like you, was simply mentally
ill.
(2) Some articles have quoted the killer, Charles Karl Roberts IV as
saying he was "mad at God" about his premature daughter dying 20 minutes
after birth about 9 years ago. This means that he is not an atheist,
since he believes in god. An atheist would not believe in any god to be
mad at.
But he violated his belief and acted as an atheist would.
Wrong, as usual. Xians believe that god will forgive them as long as
they mouth the words "I wuv u jebus" before they snuff it. So according
to your moronic and delusional creed, this guy could be in heaven right
now, being rewarded for his killing spree by Jebus. Furthermore, if god
didn't want this to happen he easily could have caused the guy's gun to
jam, made the guy have a heart-attack, or even just fall into a coma. In
other words, it woudl have been effortless for god to stop theses actions
in a way that did not even apparently violate free will. The most
reasonable explanation is that god does not exist, and you're a fucking
moron for thinking otherwise.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
You have to add that all the crimes and murders done in the US are done
by Christians, not by atheits.
They are telling continuously that religion prevents people's crimes
and murdering. This is utter nonsense, if you remember Jim Jones in
Guyana and his nearly a thousand dead people, mostly children and
women. The dementia of Jones was inspired by the Christian religion.
I remember also David Koresh that was marrying girls underage, and
forced with his religious dementia the death of his people. I remember
now this guy, David Berg, the founder of the Cildrenb of God, that had
also a sweet tooth with girls underage. I am not goint to tell here
what he liked to do with these young girls.
By fortune, not all are so crazy with religion and god, for most of
people take these religious stories with a light heart and do not
believe them seriuously. That what I have watched here in Europe with
Catholics and others.
Leopoldo
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| User: "Father Haskell" |
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| Title: Re: Amish School Shooting by Theist Charles Carl Roberts IV |
03 Oct 2006 11:55:28 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 15:58:36 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
A couple salient points come to mind.
(1) Repugs claimed that school shootings happened because "God was
taken out of the classroom". But God was never taken out of Amish
classrooms
Hey, dummie quib, he wasn't Amish.
The school was.
(2) Some articles have quoted the killer, Charles Karl Roberts IV as
saying he was "mad at God" about his premature daughter dying 20 minutes
after birth about 9 years ago. This means that he is not an atheist,
since he believes in god. An atheist would not believe in any god to be
mad at.
But he violated his belief and acted as an atheist would.
Not the same as being an atheist. That's two lies, either
overt, or implied (your particular specialty), that you fucked
up in one post. You're slipping. Getting enough shuteye lately?
Actually, he acted as an unrepentant psychotic child molester
would.
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