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29 Aug 2006 09:56:14 PM |
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An Miraculous Healing Up Close And Personal |
http://pblosser.blogspot.com/2006_08_01_pblosser_archive.html#115680375657491697
Monday, August 28, 2006
A miracle
St. Augustine recounts miraculous healings in the closing books of his
Civitas Dei, about which the Scottish Presbyterian editors of the
Post-Nicene Fathers series express skepticism. Romish tall tales,
credulity, and manipulation by the patristic bishops, they suggest.
I've heard of miracles happening, third-hand, and have read of many
instances of healing even in recent times, such as those in the chapter
on Miracles in Means to Message by Stanley Jaki, Gifford Lecturer in
physics and philosophy. But I've never seen an inexplicable healing up
close and personal.
Friends of ours from church, Joe and Karen Cody, have three children --
John Paul, Kara, and Maria. Kara, age nine, recently developed a small
tumor on the back of her head behind her hear -- not one that is
movable, as in cysts associated with the lymphatic system, but a
stationary, hard tumor, of a purplish-bluish color, growing in size.
The whole family has been living under a cloud of terrible anxiety with
this over the last several days and weekend. Joe called me last week
and said he was notifying folk involved in the church's prayer chain.
But not wanting to frighten their daughter, they didn't take her to the
Emergency Room, but scheduled an appointment today (Monday) with a
family physician, who, they expected, would refer them to a surgeon.
Over the weekend, Karen had to work (she's a pharmacist), so Joe had
the kids, and since his oldest had a game in Georgia, he took them all
to Georgia over the weekend. He said his daughter, Kara, was constantly
worried, and insisted on sleeping next to him in the motel at night.
They went to a Vigil Mass in Georgia at a church called Our Lady of
(Perpetual) Help. But he said he was frankly worried, because the
growth on the back of Kara's head kept seemed to be growing larger.
Today (Monday), Joe told me, he felt an urge to go spend time with
Christ in the Blessed Sacrament in Sebastian Chapel, a beautiful stone
building that is the original church building of St. Aloysius Parish in
the city where we live. He said nobody else was there, and he spent
about half an hour alone there in prayer.
Before I go any farther, I have to tell you that Joe is a very
'hands-on' father. He's very intimately involved with his family and
children. He's strict in his discipline, but abundant in his affection
with them, and it's very clear that they have a good relationship with
their father.
While Joe was in Sebastian Chapel, he said he had a sense that the Lord
was asking him to "let go" of his daughter. He said it was such a vivid
experience that he actually heard a voice tell him that he had to "give
her to me." But Joe said he resisted. He told God that he loved his
daughter and children so much that he would rather die than anything
happen to them. Then he heard God ask him, "Don't you think I love Kara
and your other children too? You have to let them go. Turn them over to
me. You have to trust me." At that moment, said Joe, a vivid image came
before his mind of a boat, containing all three of his children, with
the Lord waiting with open hands on the other side of a body of water,
a current drawing the boat towards Him, and Joe holding onto the boat
by a rope. Joe wouldn't let go. But God told him: "Joe, you have to let
go. Give her to me. Give them to me." For fifteen minutes this battle
of the will continued, while Joe refused to let go, until, finally, Joe
looked at the Crucifix above the Tabernacle and said, "Lord, what else
do I have but You? There's no other certainty in life but You. Lord, I
trust that you love my children. They're yours." At that moment, the
rope immediately severed, and the boat floated over to the Lord.
Hours later, Kara was taken by her mother to her physician. The doctor
examined her. He felt the back of her head. The doctor said to her
mother, "You're going to have to show me where the growth is." Kara and
her mother lifted Kara's hair and showed the doctor where to look. The
doctor said: "There's no growth of any kind here." The doctor insisted
on some blood work, after hearing the description of the kind of tumor
they described. But I think most of us already know what those results
will turn up: absolutely nothing. What will the doctor write in the
medical report: "psychogenic hallucinations?" Whatever the case, I
think most of us -- even if we're no more able to offer a scientific
account of what happened here than this rather perplexed physician --
nevertheless understand what happened here. We call it a miracle. Soli
Deo gloria.
# posted by Pertinacious Papist : 5:46 PM
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29 Aug 2006 10:00:55 PM |
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"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@bluebottle.com> wrote in message
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Monday, August 28, 2006
A miracle
Yet never a missing limb regrown. I wonder why.
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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29 Aug 2006 10:53:54 PM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@bluebottle.com> wrote in message
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http://pblosser.blogspot.com/2006_08_01_pblosser_archive.html#115680375657491697
Monday, August 28, 2006
A miracle
Yet never a missing limb regrown. I wonder why.
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I can envision a theist saying, 'If that were to happen, you wouldn't
believe it anyway'. To which the atheist could reply, 'Try me'.
Greywolf
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29 Aug 2006 10:24:29 PM |
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Denis Loubet wrote:
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@bluebottle.com> wrote in message
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http://pblosser.blogspot.com/2006_08_01_pblosser_archive.html#115680375657491697
Monday, August 28, 2006
A miracle
Yet never a missing limb regrown. I wonder why.
And in this case involving a bruise on the back of the head that
no-one apart from the parents telling the story ever saw. Pfui.
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "Olrik" |
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29 Aug 2006 10:32:30 PM |
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Denis Loubet wrote:
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@bluebottle.com> wrote in message
news:1156906574.116914.117460@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
http://pblosser.blogspot.com/2006_08_01_pblosser_archive.html#115680375657491697
Monday, August 28, 2006
A miracle
Yet never a missing limb regrown. I wonder why.
Yup. Miracles always happen to "patients" with easily faked diseases or
conditions. And the "beneficiary" always die in the end anyway.
Olrik
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "Rune" |
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29 Aug 2006 11:42:11 PM |
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On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:00:55 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
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Yet never a missing limb regrown. I wonder why.
Maybe lizards are holier than us? Maybe we're NOT god's chosen
species! *gasp*
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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30 Aug 2006 11:54:23 AM |
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"Rune" <efh356@g3wrhg.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:00:55 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
Yet never a missing limb regrown. I wonder why.
Maybe lizards are holier than us? Maybe we're NOT god's chosen
species! *gasp*
Or..............it's the starfish! Shaped like a pentacle they are.
Hmmm................... ;)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "Rune" |
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30 Aug 2006 12:32:51 PM |
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On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 12:54:23 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
Yet never a missing limb regrown. I wonder why.
Maybe lizards are holier than us? Maybe we're NOT god's chosen
species! *gasp*
Or..............it's the starfish! Shaped like a pentacle they are.
Hmmm................... ;)
Isn't that sort of a matter of perspective? Or does it depend on where
the mouth etc. is? lol
How could this have happened... how did starfish and lizards pass us
in holiness!? Was it something we said!? :-(
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Conservatives preach the gospel. Liberals practice it.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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30 Aug 2006 03:27:47 PM |
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"Rune" <efh356@g3wrhg.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 12:54:23 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
Yet never a missing limb regrown. I wonder why.
Maybe lizards are holier than us? Maybe we're NOT god's chosen
species! *gasp*
Or..............it's the starfish! Shaped like a pentacle they are.
Hmmm................... ;)
Isn't that sort of a matter of perspective? Or does it depend on where
the mouth etc. is? lol
Umm.............hmmm..........not sure ;)
How could this have happened... how did starfish and lizards pass us
in holiness!? Was it something we said!? :-(
Holy crap! :)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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30 Aug 2006 12:53:17 AM |
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://pblosser.blogspot.com/2006_08_01_pblosser_archive.html#115680375657491697
Monday, August 28, 2006
A miracle
St. Augustine recounts miraculous healings in the closing books of his
Civitas Dei, about which the Scottish Presbyterian editors of the
Post-Nicene Fathers series express skepticism. Romish tall tales,
credulity, and manipulation by the patristic bishops, they suggest.
I've heard of miracles happening, third-hand, and have read of many
instances of healing even in recent times, such as those in the chapter
on Miracles in Means to Message by Stanley Jaki, Gifford Lecturer in
physics and philosophy. But I've never seen an inexplicable healing up
close and personal.
Friends of ours from church, Joe and Karen Cody, have three children --
John Paul, Kara, and Maria. Kara, age nine, recently developed a small
tumor on the back of her head behind her hear -- not one that is
movable, as in cysts associated with the lymphatic system, but a
stationary, hard tumor, of a purplish-bluish color, growing in size.
The whole family has been living under a cloud of terrible anxiety with
this over the last several days and weekend. Joe called me last week
and said he was notifying folk involved in the church's prayer chain.
But not wanting to frighten their daughter, they didn't take her to the
Emergency Room,
I Wonder why!
but scheduled an appointment today (Monday) with a
family physician, who, they expected, would refer them to a surgeon.
Over the weekend, Karen had to work (she's a pharmacist), so Joe had
the kids, and since his oldest had a game in Georgia, he took them all
to Georgia over the weekend. He said his daughter, Kara, was constantly
worried, and insisted on sleeping next to him in the motel at night.
So he says. Anybody but me figured out what's going on here?
They went to a Vigil Mass in Georgia at a church called Our Lady of
(Perpetual) Help. But he said he was frankly worried, because the
growth on the back of Kara's head kept seemed to be growing larger.
Today (Monday), Joe told me, he felt an urge to go spend time with
Christ in the Blessed Sacrament in Sebastian Chapel, a beautiful stone
building that is the original church building of St. Aloysius Parish in
the city where we live. He said nobody else was there, and he spent
about half an hour alone there in prayer.
Before I go any farther, I have to tell you that Joe is a very
'hands-on' father.
Yeah! Right! We're nearly there, folks!
He's very intimately involved with his family and
children. He's strict in his discipline, but abundant in his affection
with them, and it's very clear that they have a good relationship with
their father.
I've never seen sexual abuse and battery described thus before!
<snip>
I feel sick.
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| User: "Lucifer" |
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30 Aug 2006 03:42:07 AM |
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://pblosser.blogspot.com/2006_08_01_pblosser_archive.html#115680375657491697
Monday, August 28, 2006
A miracle
St. Augustine recounts miraculous healings in the closing books of his
Civitas Dei, about which the Scottish Presbyterian editors of the
Post-Nicene Fathers series express skepticism. Romish tall tales,
credulity, and manipulation by the patristic bishops, they suggest.
I've heard of miracles happening, third-hand, and have read of many
instances of healing even in recent times, such as those in the chapter
on Miracles in Means to Message by Stanley Jaki, Gifford Lecturer in
physics and philosophy. But I've never seen an inexplicable healing up
close and personal.
Friends of ours from church, Joe and Karen Cody, have three children --
John Paul, Kara, and Maria. Kara, age nine, recently developed a small
tumor on the back of her head behind her hear -- not one that is
movable, as in cysts associated with the lymphatic system, but a
stationary, hard tumor, of a purplish-bluish color, growing in size.
The whole family has been living under a cloud of terrible anxiety with
this over the last several days and weekend. Joe called me last week
and said he was notifying folk involved in the church's prayer chain.
But not wanting to frighten their daughter, they didn't take her to the
Emergency Room, but scheduled an appointment today (Monday) with a
family physician, who, they expected, would refer them to a surgeon.
Over the weekend, Karen had to work (she's a pharmacist), so Joe had
the kids, and since his oldest had a game in Georgia, he took them all
to Georgia over the weekend. He said his daughter, Kara, was constantly
worried, and insisted on sleeping next to him in the motel at night.
They went to a Vigil Mass in Georgia at a church called Our Lady of
(Perpetual) Help. But he said he was frankly worried, because the
growth on the back of Kara's head kept seemed to be growing larger.
Today (Monday), Joe told me, he felt an urge to go spend time with
Christ in the Blessed Sacrament in Sebastian Chapel, a beautiful stone
building that is the original church building of St. Aloysius Parish in
the city where we live. He said nobody else was there, and he spent
about half an hour alone there in prayer.
Before I go any farther, I have to tell you that Joe is a very
'hands-on' father. He's very intimately involved with his family and
children. He's strict in his discipline, but abundant in his affection
with them, and it's very clear that they have a good relationship with
their father.
While Joe was in Sebastian Chapel, he said he had a sense that the Lord
was asking him to "let go" of his daughter. He said it was such a vivid
experience that he actually heard a voice tell him that he had to "give
her to me." But Joe said he resisted. He told God that he loved his
daughter and children so much that he would rather die than anything
happen to them. Then he heard God ask him, "Don't you think I love Kara
and your other children too? You have to let them go. Turn them over to
me. You have to trust me." At that moment, said Joe, a vivid image came
before his mind of a boat, containing all three of his children, with
the Lord waiting with open hands on the other side of a body of water,
a current drawing the boat towards Him, and Joe holding onto the boat
by a rope. Joe wouldn't let go. But God told him: "Joe, you have to let
go. Give her to me. Give them to me." For fifteen minutes this battle
of the will continued, while Joe refused to let go, until, finally, Joe
looked at the Crucifix above the Tabernacle and said, "Lord, what else
do I have but You? There's no other certainty in life but You. Lord, I
trust that you love my children. They're yours." At that moment, the
rope immediately severed, and the boat floated over to the Lord.
Hours later, Kara was taken by her mother to her physician. The doctor
examined her. He felt the back of her head. The doctor said to her
mother, "You're going to have to show me where the growth is." Kara and
her mother lifted Kara's hair and showed the doctor where to look. The
doctor said: "There's no growth of any kind here." The doctor insisted
on some blood work, after hearing the description of the kind of tumor
they described. But I think most of us already know what those results
will turn up: absolutely nothing. What will the doctor write in the
medical report: "psychogenic hallucinations?" Whatever the case, I
think most of us -- even if we're no more able to offer a scientific
account of what happened here than this rather perplexed physician --
nevertheless understand what happened here. We call it a miracle. Soli
Deo gloria.
# posted by Pertinacious Papist : 5:46 PM
So the "tumour" was at no point inspected by anyone with medical
knowledge before it "vanished". Sounds more like a bruise to me.
Anyway, I don't see any discarded wooden legs.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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29 Aug 2006 10:26:26 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and "Sound of Trumpet"
<soundoftrumpet@bluebottle.com> posting the following on 29 Aug 2006
19:56:14 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
St. Augustine recounts miraculous healings in the closing books of his
Civitas Dei, about which the Scottish Presbyterian editors of the
Post-Nicene Fathers series express skepticism. Romish tall tales,
credulity, and manipulation by the patristic bishops, they suggest.
I've heard of miracles happening, third-hand, and have read of many
instances of healing even in recent times, such as those in the chapter
on Miracles in Means to Message by Stanley Jaki, Gifford Lecturer in
physics and philosophy. But I've never seen an inexplicable healing up
close and personal.
Hell, I'm regrowing my spleen. Top that!
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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30 Aug 2006 11:33:41 AM |
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"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:9a1af2l13tpak5jf7lo7ftqbjlmi8o99rb@4ax.com...
What's so funny about peace, love and "Sound of Trumpet"
<soundoftrumpet@bluebottle.com> posting the following on 29 Aug 2006
19:56:14 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
St. Augustine recounts miraculous healings in the closing books of his
Civitas Dei, about which the Scottish Presbyterian editors of the
Post-Nicene Fathers series express skepticism. Romish tall tales,
credulity, and manipulation by the patristic bishops, they suggest.
I've heard of miracles happening, third-hand, and have read of many
instances of healing even in recent times, such as those in the chapter
on Miracles in Means to Message by Stanley Jaki, Gifford Lecturer in
physics and philosophy. But I've never seen an inexplicable healing up
close and personal.
Hell, I'm regrowing my spleen. Top that!
Oooh! I had a declawed cat grow one of her first knuckles back ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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30 Aug 2006 11:58:01 AM |
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In article <4llso3F2eg12U1@individual.net> "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes:
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:9a1af2l13tpak5jf7lo7ftqbjlmi8o99rb@4ax.com...
What's so funny about peace, love and "Sound of Trumpet"
<soundoftrumpet@bluebottle.com> posting the following on 29 Aug 2006
19:56:14 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
St. Augustine recounts miraculous healings in the closing books of his
Civitas Dei, about which the Scottish Presbyterian editors of the
Post-Nicene Fathers series express skepticism. Romish tall tales,
credulity, and manipulation by the patristic bishops, they suggest.
I've heard of miracles happening, third-hand, and have read of many
instances of healing even in recent times, such as those in the chapter
on Miracles in Means to Message by Stanley Jaki, Gifford Lecturer in
physics and philosophy. But I've never seen an inexplicable healing up
close and personal.
Hell, I'm regrowing my spleen. Top that!
Oooh! I had a declawed cat grow one of her first knuckles back ;)
Hey, I've had an entire beer belly miraculously regrow.
-- cary
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"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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In article <4llso3F2eg12U1@individual.net> "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes:
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:9a1af2l13tpak5jf7lo7ftqbjlmi8o99rb@4ax.com...
What's so funny about peace, love and "Sound of Trumpet"
<soundoftrumpet@bluebottle.com> posting the following on 29 Aug 2006
19:56:14 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
St. Augustine recounts miraculous healings in the closing books of his
Civitas Dei, about which the Scottish Presbyterian editors of the
Post-Nicene Fathers series express skepticism. Romish tall tales,
credulity, and manipulation by the patristic bishops, they suggest.
I've heard of miracles happening, third-hand, and have read of many
instances of healing even in recent times, such as those in the chapter
on Miracles in Means to Message by Stanley Jaki, Gifford Lecturer in
physics and philosophy. But I've never seen an inexplicable healing up
close and personal.
Hell, I'm regrowing my spleen. Top that!
Oooh! I had a declawed cat grow one of her first knuckles back ;)
Hey, I've had an entire beer belly miraculously regrow.
<GASP!> Get out!
I'm currently working on a hip reduction. Will keep you advised ;)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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29 Aug 2006 10:32:47 PM |
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Douglas Berry wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and "Sound of Trumpet"
<soundoftrumpet@bluebottle.com> posting the following on 29 Aug 2006
19:56:14 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
St. Augustine recounts miraculous healings in the closing books of his
Civitas Dei, about which the Scottish Presbyterian editors of the
Post-Nicene Fathers series express skepticism. Romish tall tales,
credulity, and manipulation by the patristic bishops, they suggest.
I've heard of miracles happening, third-hand, and have read of many
instances of healing even in recent times, such as those in the chapter
on Miracles in Means to Message by Stanley Jaki, Gifford Lecturer in
physics and philosophy. But I've never seen an inexplicable healing up
close and personal.
Hell, I'm regrowing my spleen. Top that!
No problem. I'm not kidding; apparently St Winifred regrew her...head!!
Yup, she was beheaded and grew a new head, courtesy of St Bueno.
http://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=327
And people actually believe this sh....
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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"cathyb" <cathybeesley@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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Douglas Berry wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and "Sound of Trumpet"
<soundoftrumpet@bluebottle.com> posting the following on 29 Aug 2006
19:56:14 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
St. Augustine recounts miraculous healings in the closing books of his
Civitas Dei, about which the Scottish Presbyterian editors of the
Post-Nicene Fathers series express skepticism. Romish tall tales,
credulity, and manipulation by the patristic bishops, they suggest.
I've heard of miracles happening, third-hand, and have read of many
instances of healing even in recent times, such as those in the chapter
on Miracles in Means to Message by Stanley Jaki, Gifford Lecturer in
physics and philosophy. But I've never seen an inexplicable healing up
close and personal.
Hell, I'm regrowing my spleen. Top that!
No problem. I'm not kidding; apparently St Winifred regrew her...head!!
Yup, she was beheaded and grew a new head, courtesy of St Bueno.
What a crock!
http://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=327
And people actually believe this sh....
Unfortunately :P
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Robyn
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| User: "george" |
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| Title: Re: An Miraculous Healing Up Close And Personal |
30 Aug 2006 12:06:49 AM |
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cathyb wrote:
Douglas Berry wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and "Sound of Trumpet"
<soundoftrumpet@bluebottle.com> posting the following on 29 Aug 2006
19:56:14 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
St. Augustine recounts miraculous healings in the closing books of his
Civitas Dei, about which the Scottish Presbyterian editors of the
Post-Nicene Fathers series express skepticism. Romish tall tales,
credulity, and manipulation by the patristic bishops, they suggest.
I've heard of miracles happening, third-hand, and have read of many
instances of healing even in recent times, such as those in the chapter
on Miracles in Means to Message by Stanley Jaki, Gifford Lecturer in
physics and philosophy. But I've never seen an inexplicable healing up
close and personal.
Hell, I'm regrowing my spleen. Top that!
No problem. I'm not kidding; apparently St Winifred regrew her...head!!
Yup, she was beheaded and grew a new head, courtesy of St Bueno.
http://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=327
And people actually believe this sh....
To be a theist you have to believe twenty impossible things a day or
they throw you out.. :-)
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| User: "Frank Mayhar" |
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| Title: Re: An Miraculous Healing Up Close And Personal |
30 Aug 2006 12:33:07 AM |
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On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 04:26:26 +0000, Douglas Berry wrote:
Hell, I'm regrowing my spleen. Top that!
My maternal grandmother regrew her tonsils, _twice_. After they grew back
the second time, she gave up and kept them.
(Mine were yanked when I was 17 and, mercifully, _stayed_ yanked.)
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Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: An Miraculous Healing Up Close And Personal |
30 Aug 2006 11:52:01 AM |
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"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.08.30.05.33.04.878041@exit.com...
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 04:26:26 +0000, Douglas Berry wrote:
Hell, I'm regrowing my spleen. Top that!
My maternal grandmother regrew her tonsils, _twice_. After they grew back
the second time, she gave up and kept them.
(Mine were yanked when I was 17 and, mercifully, _stayed_ yanked.)
Had mine out when I was three! Loved all the ice cream, but to this day will
NOT get a shot in my butt. Nonononononononono!
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: An Miraculous Healing Up Close And Personal |
30 Aug 2006 11:34:41 PM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.08.30.05.33.04.878041@exit.com...
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 04:26:26 +0000, Douglas Berry wrote:
Hell, I'm regrowing my spleen. Top that!
My maternal grandmother regrew her tonsils, _twice_. After they grew back
the second time, she gave up and kept them.
(Mine were yanked when I was 17 and, mercifully, _stayed_ yanked.)
Had mine out when I was three! Loved all the ice cream, but to this day will
NOT get a shot in my butt. Nonononononononono!
So much for playing doctor. ;-) (I had mine out just before the Thanksgiving
holiday in my senior year of high school, at the ripe old age of sixteen...and
I had to stay quiet during our school's football game that Friday night. ;-)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. Grand Rapids, 7:35
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| User: "Frank Mayhar" |
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| Title: Re: An Miraculous Healing Up Close And Personal |
31 Aug 2006 12:18:05 AM |
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On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 00:34:41 -0500, The Chief Instigator wrote:
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.08.30.05.33.04.878041@exit.com...
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 04:26:26 +0000, Douglas Berry wrote:
Hell, I'm regrowing my spleen. Top that!
My maternal grandmother regrew her tonsils, _twice_. After they grew back
the second time, she gave up and kept them.
(Mine were yanked when I was 17 and, mercifully, _stayed_ yanked.)
Had mine out when I was three! Loved all the ice cream, but to this day will
NOT get a shot in my butt. Nonononononononono!
So much for playing doctor. ;-) (I had mine out just before the Thanksgiving
holiday in my senior year of high school, at the ripe old age of sixteen...and
I had to stay quiet during our school's football game that Friday night. ;-)
They say that having them out as a teenager is more difficult than when
you're a tot. In my case, though, I was eating soft food the same day and
was almost back to normal (or what for me passed as "normal") a day or two
later. They were surprised at my quick recovery; I just told them that
the tonsillectomy wasn't nearly as bad as the tonsillitis that I had
recently gotten over and that was the trigger for the tonsillectomy in the
first place.
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Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
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