| Topic: |
Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"Fredric L. Rice" |
| Date: |
26 Mar 2006 01:15:53 PM |
| Object: |
And a side order of Mad Cow Disease, please |
http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/news/local/14178415.htm
LIBBY QUAID
Associated Press
WASHINGTON - A Kansas meatpacker sued the government on Thursday for
refusing to let the company test for mad cow disease in every animal
it slaughters.
Creekstone Farms Premium Beef says it has Japanese customers who want
comprehensive testing. The Agriculture Department threatened criminal
prosecution if Creekstone did the tests, according to the company's
lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court in Washington.
"We're not in any way saying that U.S. beef isn't safe; we believe it's
the safest beef supply in the world, but that's not the issue," chief
executive John Stewart said at a news conference.
"We're talking about consumers, and consumers want the product
tested," Stewart said.
Testing for mad cow disease in the United States is controlled by the
department, which tests about 1 percent of the 35 million cattle, or
about 350,000, that are slaughtered each year. The department is planning
to reduce that level of testing.
Stewart said he was surprised at the plan to scale back testing. "Given
the concerns internationally, I'm not so sure that's the right thing to
do."
Private companies certified by the department make screening tests used
to detect mad cow disease. The department says it has sole authority
over the sale and use of the tests.
Department officials say they oppose 100 percent testing because it
does not ensure food safety. The disease is difficult to detect in
younger animals, which are the source of most beef.
---
"Stone and Parker said there would be retribution." - AP NewsWire
http://www.chefgate.info/
.
|
|
| User: "nu-monet v8.0" |
|
| Title: Re: And a side order of Mad Cow Disease, please |
26 Mar 2006 01:49:30 PM |
|
|
Fredric L. Rice wrote:
http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/news/local/14178415.htm
LIBBY QUAID
Associated Press
WASHINGTON - A Kansas meatpacker sued the government on Thursday for
refusing to let the company test for mad cow disease in every animal
it slaughters...
...Department officials say they oppose 100 percent testing because
it does not ensure food safety. The disease is difficult to detect
in younger animals, which are the source of most beef.
So, they refuse to let a company claim that its beef is somehow
safer because they perform a test on it that doesn't work, for
a condition that has not been found to any extent in this country?
I agree, the government should not intervene to protect gullible
fools from wasting their money on protection from imaginary
illness. That's like disputing religion or chiropractic, it just
defies St. Darwin and make the fools unhappy.
--
Be Sure To Visit the 'SubGenius Reverend' Blog:
http://slackoff.blogspot.com/
***********
"You've had, you know, men ejaculating in your
face who you don't even know who they are."
-- Oprah Winfrey
.
|
|
|
| User: "" |
|
| Title: Re: And a side order of Mad Cow Disease, please |
26 Mar 2006 02:34:54 PM |
|
|
How about a side order of
"Shut the ***** up, Fred"?
(and stop violating AP copyright).
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Dubh Ghall" |
|
| Title: Re: And a side order of Mad Cow Disease, please |
26 Mar 2006 05:01:48 PM |
|
|
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 12:49:30 -0700, "nu-monet v8.0" <nothing@succeeds.com>
wrote:
Fredric L. Rice wrote:
http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/news/local/14178415.htm
LIBBY QUAID
Associated Press
WASHINGTON - A Kansas meatpacker sued the government on Thursday for
refusing to let the company test for mad cow disease in every animal
it slaughters...
...Department officials say they oppose 100 percent testing because
it does not ensure food safety. The disease is difficult to detect
in younger animals, which are the source of most beef.
So, they refuse to let a company claim that its beef is somehow
safer because they perform a test on it that doesn't work, for
a condition that has not been found to any extent in this country?
That aint what was said: You got a reading comprehension problem?
Or are you just plain, dishonest.
If that is what your customer wants, then that is what you give him.
It makes no claims about anything except that the customer's specifications have
been met.
I agree, the government should not intervene to protect gullible
fools from wasting their money on protection from imaginary
illness.
So what are you bitching about: Don't you want American farmers to export their
produce?
.
|
|
|
| User: "nu-monet v8.0" |
|
| Title: Re: And a side order of Mad Cow Disease, please |
26 Mar 2006 05:28:20 PM |
|
|
Dubh Ghall wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 12:49:30 -0700, "nu-monet v8.0" <nothing@succeeds.com>
wrote:
Fredric L. Rice wrote:
http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/news/local/14178415.htm
LIBBY QUAID
Associated Press
WASHINGTON - A Kansas meatpacker sued the government on Thursday for
refusing to let the company test for mad cow disease in every animal
it slaughters...
...Department officials say they oppose 100 percent testing because
it does not ensure food safety. The disease is difficult to detect
in younger animals, which are the source of most beef.
So, they refuse to let a company claim that its beef is somehow
safer because they perform a test on it that doesn't work, for
a condition that has not been found to any extent in this country?
That aint what was said: You got a reading comprehension problem?
Or are you just plain, dishonest.
If that is what your customer wants, then that is what you give him.
It makes no claims about anything except that the customer's
specifications have been met.
Well, duh, oh impolite sucker of chancred farm animals.
Nobody is going to advertise that they are trying to sucker
people. They LIE. In this case they wanted to LIE in a
whole bunch of ways.
The gubment just said one reason why it objected to their LIE.
That doesn't mean it's the ONLY reason, dumbass.
Now, think hard. Can you even imagine all the ways this company
was planning to LIE to people? LIES of omission, LIES of
comission, LIES of misdirection, and LIES of deception.
--
Be Sure To Visit the 'SubGenius Reverend' Blog:
http://slackoff.blogspot.com/
***********
"Sexual orgies eliminate tension and
ought to be encouraged."
-- U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia
.
|
|
|
| User: "scooter" |
|
| Title: Re: And a side order of Mad Cow Disease, please |
26 Mar 2006 07:59:29 PM |
|
|
"nu-monet v8.0" <nothing@succeeds.com> wrote in message
news:44272394.52F0@succeeds.com...
Now, think hard. Can you even imagine all the ways this company
was planning to LIE to people? LIES of omission, LIES of
comission, LIES of misdirection, and LIES of deception.
Liza Minneli
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Dubh Ghall" |
|
| Title: Re: And a side order of Mad Cow Disease, please |
26 Mar 2006 06:48:56 PM |
|
|
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 16:28:20 -0700, "nu-monet v8.0" <nothing@succeeds.com>
wrote:
Well, duh, oh impolite sucker of chancred farm animals.
Nobody is going to advertise that they are trying to sucker
people. They LIE. In this case they wanted to LIE in a
whole bunch of ways.
It never said that he was advertising, it said that he was trying to meet his
customer's requirements.
The gubment just said one reason why it objected to their LIE.
That doesn't mean it's the ONLY reason, dumbass.
No one has suggested that it was.
Now, think hard. Can you even imagine all the ways this company
was planning to LIE to people? LIES of omission, LIES of
comission, LIES of misdirection, and LIES of deception.
I can even think of a few that you have missed.
Now you try. Bite the lavatory door if the strain gets too great.
Can you imagine the possibility that all the man wanted to do, was to meet his
customer's wishes?
Don't bother, the answer is obvious, and tells us much about you.
.
|
|
|
| User: "nu-monet v8.0" |
|
| Title: Re: And a side order of Mad Cow Disease, please |
26 Mar 2006 10:36:53 PM |
|
|
Dubh Ghall wrote:
Can you imagine the possibility that all the man
wanted to do, was to meet his customer's wishes?
Don't bother, the answer is obvious, and tells us
much about you.
Yes, it's pretty obvious that it probably didn't happen.
Try to imagine, if you can, his Japanese customers
approaching him to ask for comprehensive testing.
"That is expensive so it will raise the price of the beef.
There has also been only a few isolated cases of the disease
more than a thousand miles away from here, none has been
detected anywhere near here, so it is highly improbable that
it will ever detect a positive result. On top of that, the
test is unreliable on the young animals we slaughter for beef,
and offers no guarantee that cannot be given with equal
certainty by any other untested beef provided in this region.
Do you still want comprehensive testing?"
Otherwise, "just meeting his customer's wishes" amounts to
ripping them off because they are either ignorant of the
facts, or they are wholesalers hoping to in turn deceive
Japanese retailers and consumers as to the quality of the
beef they have purchased.
Just about any way you look at it, the US government seems
to be right in this case. And it doesn't matter if they
say they are right for all of the reasons, or just one of
the reasons.
--
Be Sure To Visit the 'SubGenius Reverend' Blog:
http://slackoff.blogspot.com/
***********
"In the next century, nations as we know it
will be obsolete; all states will recognize a
single, global authority. National sovereignty
wasn't such a great idea after all."
-- Strobe Talbot, Deputy Secretary of State,
Clinton Administration, interview in Time Magazine
.
|
|
|
| User: "Johnny Lemuria" |
|
| Title: Re: And a side order of Mad Cow Disease, please |
26 Mar 2006 10:51:23 PM |
|
|
nu-monet v8.0 wrote:
Dubh Ghall wrote:
Can you imagine the possibility that all the man
wanted to do, was to meet his customer's wishes?
Don't bother, the answer is obvious, and tells us
much about you.
Yes, it's pretty obvious that it probably didn't happen.
Try to imagine, if you can, his Japanese customers
approaching him to ask for comprehensive testing.
"That is expensive so it will raise the price of the beef.
There has also been only a few isolated cases of the disease
more than a thousand miles away from here, none has been
detected anywhere near here, so it is highly improbable that
it will ever detect a positive result. On top of that, the
test is unreliable on the young animals we slaughter for beef,
and offers no guarantee that cannot be given with equal
certainty by any other untested beef provided in this region.
Do you still want comprehensive testing?"
Otherwise, "just meeting his customer's wishes" amounts to
ripping them off because they are either ignorant of the
facts, or they are wholesalers hoping to in turn deceive
Japanese retailers and consumers as to the quality of the
beef they have purchased.
Just about any way you look at it, the US government seems
to be right in this case. And it doesn't matter if they
say they are right for all of the reasons, or just one of
the reasons.
If the buyers of the beef want it blessed by a bishop painted blue, or
only from from cattle who farted last Friday, it should not be the
business of the US government. At the most, maybe, MAYBE, the Japanese
government should get involved. But not the US government. If the
rancher promises something and doesn't deliver, then that's fraud, and
then we should get the US government involved. But not in this case.
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Fwap" |
|
| Title: Re: And a side order of Mad Cow Disease, please |
26 Mar 2006 07:18:04 PM |
|
|
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 00:48:56 GMT, Dubh Ghall
<puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote:
....
Can you imagine the possibility that all the man wanted to do, was to meet his
customer's wishes?
Well, then he's even dumber than his customers, and clearly
doesn't understand the trade he's in. Which is not a
comfortable thought in a trade which deals with foodstuffs
who can turn poisonous in mere hours if mistreated.
People who are dumb enough to waste resources on unnecessary
procedures aren't good for business. Any procedure which
costs money raise the price of the meat. Any procedure which
is supposed to magiscientifically make the meat "safer" will
soon be expected by all customers, because customers are
dumb.
Thus the entire US meat industry risks being forced to
institute ineffective, expensive and unnecessary procedures,
just because one dumbass thought he could get ahead by
giving his customers what they "wanted", even though he
should know what they actually *need*.
See, that's what customers pay professionals for. Knowing
things like this for them. So they don't have to think. Yes,
I know, it's terrible, but such is the way of the world.
Don't bother, the answer is obvious, and tells us much about you.
An interesting choice of stock line, which can tell a highly
trained SubGenius much about the state of your scrotum.
....
.
|
|
|
| User: "Johnny Lemuria" |
|
| Title: Re: And a side order of Mad Cow Disease, please |
26 Mar 2006 08:35:20 PM |
|
|
Fwap wrote:
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 00:48:56 GMT, Dubh Ghall
<puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote:
...
Can you imagine the possibility that all the man wanted to do, was to meet his
customer's wishes?
Well, then he's even dumber than his customers, and clearly
doesn't understand the trade he's in. Which is not a
comfortable thought in a trade which deals with foodstuffs
who can turn poisonous in mere hours if mistreated.
People who are dumb enough to waste resources on unnecessary
procedures aren't good for business. Any procedure which
costs money raise the price of the meat. Any procedure which
is supposed to magiscientifically make the meat "safer" will
soon be expected by all customers, because customers are
dumb.
Thus the entire US meat industry risks being forced to
institute ineffective, expensive and unnecessary procedures,
just because one dumbass thought he could get ahead by
giving his customers what they "wanted", even though he
should know what they actually *need*.
See, that's what customers pay professionals for. Knowing
things like this for them. So they don't have to think. Yes,
I know, it's terrible, but such is the way of the world.
Don't bother, the answer is obvious, and tells us much about you.
An interesting choice of stock line, which can tell a highly
trained SubGenius much about the state of your scrotum.
...
Merchants are in the business of selling people what they want,
operating on the quite reasonable assumption that they, the merchant,
have no fucking inkling of what the customer "needs". If the customer
wants beef a certain way, and you want to sell to that customer, you
prepare beef a certain way.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Fwap" |
|
| Title: Re: And a side order of Mad Cow Disease, please |
26 Mar 2006 08:48:03 PM |
|
|
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:35:20 -0500, Johnny Lemuria
<johnnylemuria@yahoo.com> wrote:
....
Merchants are in the business of selling people what they want,
operating on the quite reasonable assumption that they, the merchant,
have no fucking inkling of what the customer "needs". If the customer
wants beef a certain way, and you want to sell to that customer, you
prepare beef a certain way.
Right. One dice of blubber comin' up.
Wha'? You don't like blubber? Come on. All the cool kids are
eating it these days. Anyway, everyone's stocked up on the
damn stuff. You won't get anything else until Godthaab,
Greenland. That's where all the steak went.
....
.
|
|
|
| User: "Johnny Lemuria" |
|
| Title: Re: And a side order of Mad Cow Disease, please |
26 Mar 2006 09:32:02 PM |
|
|
Fwap wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:35:20 -0500, Johnny Lemuria
<johnnylemuria@yahoo.com> wrote:
...
Merchants are in the business of selling people what they want,
operating on the quite reasonable assumption that they, the merchant,
have no fucking inkling of what the customer "needs". If the customer
wants beef a certain way, and you want to sell to that customer, you
prepare beef a certain way.
Right. One dice of blubber comin' up.
Wha'? You don't like blubber? Come on. All the cool kids are
eating it these days. Anyway, everyone's stocked up on the
damn stuff. You won't get anything else until Godthaab,
Greenland. That's where all the steak went.
...
So your problem with this is that it might disrupt your beef supply?
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Related Articles |
|
|
