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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "I dont believe in atheists"
Date: 06 Aug 2005 11:37:28 PM
Object: And lead us not into Piltdown,but deliver us from Lucy Amen
I am waiting for evolutionists to support their assertion that modern man
has somehow been able to observe changes that have taken place in living
beings regardless that modern man is supposedly a result of those
changes in the first place.
Only an uninformed fanatic says that evolution can be proved
scientifically. Christians believe in creationism because we believe in the
veracity of the Bible but we also have scientific evidence to support our
position.
Evolutionists don't "know" anything about man's origins. They guess,
suppose, etc. but they don't "know."
Honest scientists have become weary and embarrassed at the confusing,
convoluted and contradictory claptrap that often passes as science.
Need I remind our readers of the many incredible mistakes made by
evolutionists because of their faith: Haeckel's recapitulation theory that
only third-rate scientists believe; also the vestigial organ error; the
failure of the fossil record (that no informed evolutionist uses to prove
his position), etc.
Let me dwell on the fossil record since most people assume it is supportive
of evolution. It is not.
Dr. David Kitts, professor of geology at the University of Oklahoma said,
"Evolution requires intermediate forms between species and paleontology does
not provide them...."
And Lord Zuckerman admitted there are no "fossil
traces" of transformation from an ape-like creature to man!
Even Stephen J.
Gould of Harvard admitted, "The fossil record with its abrupt transitions
offers no support for gradual change."
The fossil record offers evidence of both abrupt and gradual transitions.
I assume that all college professors
know that Darwin admitted the same fact.
I also assume they know that
Darwin was not trained as a scientist but for the ministry, so evolutionists
are worshipping at the feet of an apostate preacher!
Famous fossil expert, Niles Eldredge confessed, "...geologists have found
rock layers of all divisions of the last 500 million years and no
transitional forms were contained in them." Dr. Eldredge further said,
"...no one has yet found any evidence of such transitional creatures."
All the alleged transitional fossils, that were so dear to the hearts of
evolutionists a generation ago, are now an embarrassment to
them.Archaeopteryx is now considered only a bird, not an intermediate
fossil.
The famous horse series that is still found in some textbooks and
museums has been "discarded" and is considered a "phantom" and "illusion"
because it is not proof of evolution.
Concerning transitional fossils, world famous paleontologist Colin Patterson
admitted that "there is not one such fossil for which one could make a
watertight argument." Not one.
Surely it is not necessary for me to remind college professors that Piltdown
Man was a total fraud and Nebraska Man turned out to be a pig, not an ape
man!
And in recent years we have discovered that Neanderthal Man was simply
a man with rickets and arthritis, not the much desired "ape man."
.

User: "Peacenik"

Title: Re: And lead us not into Piltdown,but deliver us from Lucy Amen 07 Aug 2005 06:47:32 AM
"I don't believe in atheists" <Athiests@Fool.com> wrote in message
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Dr. David Kitts, professor of geology at the University of Oklahoma said,
"Evolution requires intermediate forms between species and paleontology

does

not provide them...."
And Lord Zuckerman admitted there are no "fossil
traces" of transformation from an ape-like creature to man!

Yet there are.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/specimen.html
.
User: "Pastor Frank"

Title: Re: And lead us not into Piltdown,but deliver us from Lucy Amen 08 Aug 2005 10:35:02 AM
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Dr. David Kitts, professor of geology at the University of Oklahoma said,
"Evolution requires intermediate forms between species and paleontology
does not provide them...."
And Lord Zuckerman admitted there are no "fossil
traces" of transformation from an ape-like creature to man!


Yet there are.

Your lack of posted evidence shows clearly, that evolution is a matter
of belief and faith, just like a religion. There is no evidence of
evolutionary abiogenesis nor speciation in nature.
Since evolution is only evident in the results of man's selective
breeding of plants and animals, evolution is therefore a man-made
phenomenon.
.


User: "I dont believe in I dont believe in atheists"

Title: Re: And lead us not into Piltdown,but deliver us from Lucy Amen 07 Aug 2005 03:46:25 AM
Cometh the hour, cometh "I don't believe in atheists"
<Athiests@Fool.com>
who, with imperceptibly subtle footwork in alt.atheism, gave us this:

Christians believe in creationism because we believe in the
veracity of the Bible but we also have scientific evidence to support our
position.

What is it?
David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208
Either religion goes or civilisation does. It's that simple.
.
User: "Ben Goren"

Title: Re: And lead us not into Piltdown,but deliver us from Lucy Amen 07 Aug 2005 03:50:09 AM
I don't believe in 'I don't believe in atheists' wrote:

I don't believe in atheists wrote:

Christians believe in creationism because we believe in the
veracity of the Bible but we also have scientific evidence to
support our position.


What is it?

The Bible. Like, duh!
Cheers,
b&
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User: "Bad Hairday"

Title: Re: Re: And lead us not into Piltdown,but deliver us from Lucy Amen 07 Aug 2005 04:19:16 AM
Cometh the hour, cometh Ben Goren <ben@trumpetpower.com>
who, with imperceptibly subtle footwork in alt.atheism, gave us this:

I don't believe in 'I don't believe in atheists' wrote:

I don't believe in atheists wrote:

Christians believe in creationism because we believe in the
veracity of the Bible but we also have scientific evidence to
support our position.


What is it?


The Bible. Like, duh!

Ever seen 'The Royal Hunt of the Sun'?
There's a wonderful scene in it where Pizzaro waves a Bible at
Atahualpa who asks 'What is that?'. Pizzaro explains that it is the
word of God. The Inca takes the book and holds it to his ear, looks
puzzled and exclaims 'I can't hear anything'.
David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208
Either religion goes or civilisation does. It's that simple.
.
User: "Ben Goren"

Title: Re: And lead us not into Piltdown,but deliver us from Lucy Amen 07 Aug 2005 04:50:05 PM
Bad Hairday wrote:

Ben Goren wrote:

I don't believe in 'I don't believe in atheists' wrote:

I don't believe in atheists wrote:

Christians believe in creationism because we believe in the
veracity of the Bible but we also have scientific evidence to
support our position.


What is it?


The Bible. Like, duh!


Ever seen 'The Royal Hunt of the Sun'?

No, but...

There's a wonderful scene in it where Pizzaro waves a Bible at
Atahualpa who asks 'What is that?'. Pizzaro explains that it is
the word of God. The Inca takes the book and holds it to his
ear, looks puzzled and exclaims 'I can't hear anything'.

....me thinks I needs must. Thanks!
Cheers,
b&
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User: "I dont believe in atheists"

Title: Re: And lead us not into Piltdown,but deliver us from Lucy Amen 07 Aug 2005 05:01:59 PM
"Ben Goren" <ben@trumpetpower.com> wrote in message
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Bad Hairday wrote:

Ben Goren wrote:

I don't believe in 'I don't believe in atheists' wrote:

I don't believe in atheists wrote:

Christians believe in creationism because we believe in the
veracity of the Bible but we also have scientific evidence to
support our position.


What is it?


The Bible. Like, duh!


Ever seen 'The Royal Hunt of the Sun'?


No, but...

There's a wonderful scene in it where Pizzaro waves a Bible at
Atahualpa who asks 'What is that?'.

What does all of this fairy tale have to do with the historical and
Archeological evidence for the Bible?
Straw man perhaps :)
.
User: "God"

Title: Re: Re: And lead us not into Piltdown,but deliver us from Lucy Amen 08 Aug 2005 01:55:38 PM
Cometh the hour, cometh "I don't believe in atheists"
<Athiests@Fool.com>
who, with imperceptibly subtle footwork in alt.atheism, gave us this:


"Ben Goren" <ben@trumpetpower.com> wrote in message
news:42f68313$1_1@spool9-west.superfeed.net...

Bad Hairday wrote:

Ben Goren wrote:

I don't believe in 'I don't believe in atheists' wrote:

I don't believe in atheists wrote:

Christians believe in creationism because we believe in the
veracity of the Bible but we also have scientific evidence to
support our position.


What is it?


The Bible. Like, duh!


Ever seen 'The Royal Hunt of the Sun'?


No, but...

There's a wonderful scene in it where Pizzaro waves a Bible at
Atahualpa who asks 'What is that?'.


What does all of this fairy tale have to do with the historical and
Archeological evidence for the Bible?
Straw man perhaps :)

Hey! look over here folks! This dickbrained fuckwit thinks the history
of the conquistadores is a fairy tale! Like, Duh!
David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208
Either religion goes or civilisation does. It's that simple.
.






User: "Bad Hairday"

Title: Re: And lead us not into Piltdown,but deliver us from Lucy Amen 07 Aug 2005 03:30:49 AM
Cometh the hour, cometh "I don't believe in atheists"
<Athiests@Fool.com>
who, with imperceptibly subtle footwork in alt.atheism, gave us this:

I am waiting for evolutionists to support their assertion that modern man
has somehow been able to observe changes that have taken place in living
beings regardless that modern man is supposedly a result of those
changes in the first place.

You'll be waiting a long time unless you translate your request into
English.
David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208
Either religion goes or civilisation does. It's that simple.
.
User: "erikc"

Title: Re: And lead us not into Piltdown,but deliver us from Lucy Amen 07 Aug 2005 10:16:19 AM
On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 09:30:49 +0100, Bad Hairday <d.silverman@heathens.org.uk>
wrote:

Cometh the hour, cometh "I don't believe in atheists"
<Athiests@Fool.com>
who, with imperceptibly subtle footwork in alt.atheism, gave us this:

I am waiting for evolutionists to support their assertion that modern man
has somehow been able to observe changes that have taken place in living
beings regardless that modern man is supposedly a result of those
changes in the first place.


You'll be waiting a long time unless you translate your request into
English.

David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208

Either religion goes or civilisation does. It's that simple.

The religious don't care. They're not civilised to begin with.
erikc
Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight (retired) | "The Truth against the World."
.


User: "Del"

Title: Re: And lead us not into creationism, but deliver us from Noahs Ark Amen 07 Aug 2005 05:22:11 AM
I don't believe in atheists wrote:

I am waiting for evolutionists to support their assertion that modern

man

has somehow been able to observe changes that have taken place in

living

beings regardless that modern man is supposedly a result of tho se
changes in the first place.

Do you know what you are talking about?

Only an uninformed fanatic says that evolution can be proved
scientifically.

I bet you don't even know what evolution is.

Christians believe in creationism because we believe

You don't speak for Christians, bunky.
in the

veracity of the Bible but we also have scientific evidence to support

our

position.

Yeah right. Produce it. You don't even have a theory of
creation.

Evolutionists don't "know" anything about man's origins. They guess,
suppose, etc. but they don't "know."

Just like they don't "know" anything about cosmology,
nuclear physics, or geochemistry. Where did you get the
idea that making wild assertions was "debate"?

Let me dwell on the fossil record since most people assume it is

supportive

of evolution. It is not.

*****. Now we come to the inevitable and dishonest
quote mining of out of context passages with no
reference offered as to where they can be found:

Dr. David Kitts, professor of geology at the University of Oklahoma

said,

"Evolution requires intermediate forms between species and

paleontology does

not provide them...."

Hahahahahaha! Why the ellipse at the end, bunky? This
30 + year old quote comes from "Paleontology and
Evolutionary Theory," Evolution, vol. 28, 1974, p. 467.
But I guess you didn't know that since you never read
the piece you "quote" out of context from. Here is the
paragraph:
"Despite the bright promise that paleontology provides
a means of 'seeing' evolution, it has presented some
nasty difficulties for evolutionists the most notorious
of which is the presence of 'gaps' in the fossil
record. Evolution requires intermediate forms between
species and paleontology does not provide them. The
gaps must therefore be a contingent feature of the
record."
He also says later in the same paper:
"The claim has been repeatedly made that the fossil
record provides a basis for the falsification of
synthetic theory [Neo-Darwinism] and Simpson has
demonstrated that this is not the case."
So you have deliberately misrepresented what the man
said.
In fact, as the Quote Mine Project states: "Kitts
outlines several different hypotheses as to why the
fossil record appears the way it does, among them
Punctuated Equilibrium, but at no point does he abandon
evolution as an explanation for what is seen."
Why must creationists be so dishonest?

And Lord Zuckerman admitted there are no "fossil
traces" of transformation from an ape-like creature to man!

Again we see no reference for this two word quote:
"fossil traces" that you were compelled to add your own
surrounding context to misrepresent the man.

Even Stephen J.
Gould of Harvard admitt ed, "The fossil record with its abrupt

transitions

offers no support for gradual change."

Did you mean this quote, bunky?
"The main problem with such phyletic gradualism is that
the fossil record provides so little evidence for it.
Very rarely can we trace the gradual transformation of
one entire species into another through a finely graded
sequence of intermediary forms." (Gould, S.J. Luria,
S.E. & Singer, S., A View of Life, 1981, p. 641)
If you knew anything about evolution you'd know that
Gould was a proponent of punctuated equilibrium, not of
"gradual change." On the same page is found:
"There is an alternative, however. Perhaps the fossil
record is not so hopeless, and the observation of no
change within species and sudden replacement between
them reflects evolution as it actually occurs. Recall
Chapter 26: Large, successful, central populations are
resistant to evolutionary change. Small, isolated,
marginal populations may speciate. The process of
speciation, though slow to a human observer (hundreds
or thousands of years), is geologically fleeting. In
most geological situations, and at most rates of
sedimentation, a thousand years translates into a
single bedding plane, not a thick sequence of rock.
Thus, if speciation is the dominate mode of evolution,
we should expect to see exactly what we do see: the
unchanging species represents a successful central
population; its sudden replacement by a descendent
records the migration into the ancestral area of a
descendant that arose rapidly in a small population at
the edge of the ancestor's geographical range. Thus,
it is possible that most evolution occurs in the mode
of speciation and that phyletic evolution is relatively
unimportant."
As the quote mine project states: "So we see that Gould
et al. don't reject evolution, but claim that phyletic
evolution takes a second seat to speciation."

The fossil record offers evidence of both abrupt and gradual

transitions.

I assume that all college professors
know that Darwin admitted the same fact.
I a lso assume they know that
Darwin was not trained as a scientist

Darwin was as trained in science as anyone of the day.
He was secretary of the Geological Society, a member of
the Zoological Society and a Fellow of the Royal
Society and presented many scientific papers to these
organizations, such as his Volcanic Phenomena and the
Elevation of Mountain Chains (March 1838) for the
Geological Society. You reveal your ignorant
dishonesty when you merely parrot the theistic anti-
evolutionist cant of your fellow boneheads.

but for the ministry, so evolutionists
are worshipping at the feet of an apostate preacher!

Darwin was never a preacher you dufus.

Famous fossil expert, Niles Eldredge confessed, "...geologists have

found

rock layers of all divisions of the last 500 million years and no
transitional forms were contained in them."

You just have no idea where he said it or what else he
said, do ya?

Dr. Eldredge further said,
"...no one has yet found any evidence of such transitional

creatures."
More dishonesty.
"The evidence against the standard view is contained in
a lack of evidence. If life had evolved into its
wondrous profusion of creatures little by little, Dr.
Eldredge argues, then one would expect to find fossils
of transitional creatures which were a bit like what
went before them and a bit like what came after. But no
one has yet found any evidence of such transitional
creatures. This oddity has been attributed to gaps in
the fossil record which gradualists expected to fill
when rock strata of the proper age had been found. In
the last decade, however, geologists have found rock
layers of all divisions of the last 500 million years
and no transitional forms were contained in them. If it
is not the fossil record which is incomplete then it
must be the theory. The alternative theory is called
(regrettably) 'punctuated equilibrium' or
'punctuationalism.' According to this, the diversity of
life has come about as a result of sporadic adaptations
by small, well-defined groups confronted by a new
environment, interspersed with long periods of little
or no change."
As the Quote Mine Project says: "Once again, Punctuated
Equilibrium is being discussed, and it is Gradualism,
and not evolution, which is being critiqued."

All the alleged transitional fossils, that were so dear to the hearts

of

evolutionists a generation ago, are now an embarrassment to
them.

Oh dear! You have exceedingly little respect for the
9th Commandment do you?

Archaeopteryx is now considered only a bird,

A bird with teeth? LOL!

not an intermediate fossil.

Baloney.

The famous horse series that is still found in some textbooks and
museums has been "discarded"

*****.

and is considered a "phantom" and "illusion"
because it is not proof of evolution.

Again, I have to wonder why you think that making a lot
of assertions you never intend to back up--because you
can't--is debate. You need to start offering evidence
for your claims. Out of context quotes won't do it--as
you have just witnessed to your great dismay.


Concerning transitional fossils, world famous paleontologist Colin

Patterson

admitted that "there is not one such fossil for which one could make

a

watertigh t argument."

Hahahahahahaha! There is an entire article about this
misquote:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/patterson.html

Not one.

Not doing so well, are ya, bunky? LOL!

Surely it is not necessary for me to remind college professors that

Piltdown

Man was a total fraud and Nebraska Man turned out to be a pig, not an

ape

man!

So what? When are you going to offer some evidence for
special creation? How about some evidence for Noah's
Ark? Don't have any, do ya? That's why you lie about
what evolutionists say. You think it will distract from
the total lack of evidence for wishful thinking.

And in recent years we have discovered that Neanderthal Man was

simply

a man with rickets and arthritis, not the much desired

"ape man."
More *****:
-= Begin Quote =-
* For about 100 years the world was led to believe that
Neanderthal man was stooped and apelike. Recent studies
show that this erroneous belief was based upon some
Neanderthals who were crippled with bone diseases such
as arthritis and rickets.(m)
m. Francis Ivanhoe, "Was Virchow Right About
Neanderthal?", Nature, Vol. 227, 8 August 1970, pp.
577-578.
Ivanhoe's claim that Neandertals suffered from rickets
has been totally rejected by scientists.
- William L. Straus, Jr. and A. J. E. Cave, "Pathology
and the Posture of Neanderthal Man," The Quarterly
Review of Biology, December, 1957, pp. 348-363.
Straus and Cave did show that the reconstruction of
Neandertals with a stooped posture was the result of a
faulty reconstruction of a specimen with arthritis (not
rickets). Their results applied only to the posture of
Neandertals. They did not claim that this accounted for
all the differences between us and Neandertals; in fact
they explicitly rejected this idea in the same paper
cited by Brown:
"This is not to deny that his limbs, as well as his
skull, exhibit distinctive features - features which
collectively distinguish him from all groups of modern
men." (Straus and Cave, 1957)
Brown continues:
- Bruce M. Rothschild and Pierre L. Thillaud, "Oldest
Bone Disease," Nature, Vol. 349, 24 January 1991, p.
288.
This paper gives evidence that some Neandertals had a
bone disease known as CPPD. However there is no reason
to believe that this disease had anything to do with
anatomical differences between modern humans and
Neandertals (Rothschild and Thillaud certainly make no
such claim), and every reason to believe that it did
not. Only a minority of the Neandertals studied had
CPPD, and the symptoms appear to be limited to the
shoulders, wrists and ankles. And, obviously, the
disease is known from modern humans who, I would be
willing to bet, show no signs of Neandertalism.
-= End Quote =-
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/wbrown.html
Now skulk away Mr. pathetic and dishonest "Christian."
Your reality check is over.
.

User: "Budikka666"

Title: Re: And lead us not into Piltdown,but deliver us from Lucy Amen 07 Aug 2005 03:48:49 AM
I don't believe in atheists wrote:

I am waiting for evolutionists to support their assertion that modern man
has somehow been able to observe changes that have taken place in living
beings regardless that modern man is supposedly a result of those
changes in the first place.

Go visit http://www.talkorigins.org/
read everything. Come back if you have questions or if you don't
understand it.

Only an uninformed fanatic says that evolution can be proved
scientifically.

Nothing is "proved scientifically". Science simply shows us what the
evidence is and what it most strongly demonstrates. Unfortunately for
you, 140 years of mounting evidence demonstrates convincingly that
evolution has taken place and is still doing so.

Christians believe in creationism

No they don't. **SOME** Christians believe in young Earth creation,
others accept the Theory of Evolution which flatly refutes young-Earth
creationism. If you're going to bear false witness, you're not going
to get very far as a Christian or as a critic of the Theory of
Evolution.

because we believe in the veracity of the Bible

The Bible demonstrably lies. Even the Pope admits that the Bible lies,
as indeed he accepts that evolution is true.

but we also have scientific evidence to support our position.

Yet you, like every other creationist, cannot name a single paper
published in a standard science journal that either offers significant
evidence refuting evolution, or offers postive evidence for a creation
just 6,000 years ago.

Evolutionists don't "know" anything about man's origins. They guess,
suppose, etc. but they don't "know."

Liar. The fossil record, biochemistry, geology and genetics, to name
just a few sciences, show beyond reasonable doubt that organisms
evolve. It's that simple and the evidence is that strong.

Honest scientists have become weary and embarrassed at the confusing,
convoluted and contradictory claptrap that often passes as science.

Another lie. If it isn't verifiable, it doesn't pass as science,
period.

Need I remind our readers of the many incredible mistakes made by
evolutionists because of their faith: Haeckel's recapitulation theory that
only third-rate scientists believe;

No scientist accepts Haeckel's manipulated drawings. However, he did
demonstrate that the same anatomical details in the developing embryo
are put to different uses and develop in different ways in the end
organism depending on the species. Simple genetics controls how the
embryo develops and the control genes are often very similar no matter
what the species.
But Haeckel is ancient history. Did you really think you're revealing
something new? If you have criticisms of evolution, then try to keep
them in 2005, will you? Try to keep them valid. Try to support them
with evidence, not mindless blind-faith blather.

also the vestigial organ error;

There is no error. There are vestigial organs, period.

failure of the fossil record (that no informed evolutionist uses to prove
his position),

Cleary you know nothing about the Theory of Evolution. One of its
supporting pillars (**ONE** of its supporting pillars) is the fossil
record, which demonstrates that organisms did start out very simply, a
very long time ago and change over time, just as the Theory of
Evolution maintains.
[Lies about the fossil record wiped]
Here are the transitional forms that you lie do not exist:
http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-index.html#index_t
When you're done misquoting scientists and lying about what they
actually say, and when you've read the transitional information, and
brought your "argument" into 2005, then we can discuss it, but until
then, you're not in any position to discuss anything.
Budikka
.

User: "Carta Philus"

Title: Re: And lead us not into Piltdown,but deliver us from Lucy Amen 07 Aug 2005 12:21:11 AM
I don't believe in atheists wrote:

I am waiting for evolutionists to support their assertion that modern man
has somehow been able to observe changes that have taken place in living
beings regardless that modern man is supposedly a result of those
changes in the first place.
Only an uninformed fanatic says that evolution can be proved
scientifically. Christians believe in creationism because we believe in the
veracity of the Bible but we also have scientific evidence to support our
position.
Evolutionists don't "know" anything about man's origins. They guess,
suppose, etc. but they don't "know."
Honest scientists have become weary and embarrassed at the confusing,
convoluted and contradictory claptrap that often passes as science.
Need I remind our readers of the many incredible mistakes made by
evolutionists because of their faith: Haeckel's recapitulation theory that
only third-rate scientists believe; also the vestigial organ error; the
failure of the fossil record (that no informed evolutionist uses to prove
his position), etc.
Let me dwell on the fossil record since most people assume it is supportive
of evolution. It is not.
Dr. David Kitts, professor of geology at the University of Oklahoma said,
"Evolution requires intermediate forms between species and paleontology does
not provide them...."
And Lord Zuckerman admitted there are no "fossil
traces" of transformation from an ape-like creature to man!
Even Stephen J.
Gould of Harvard admitted, "The fossil record with its abrupt transitions
offers no support for gradual change."
The fossil record offers evidence of both abrupt and gradual transitions.
I assume that all college professors
know that Darwin admitted the same fact.
I also assume they know that
Darwin was not trained as a scientist but for the ministry, so evolutionists
are worshipping at the feet of an apostate preacher!
Famous fossil expert, Niles Eldredge confessed, "...geologists have found
rock layers of all divisions of the last 500 million years and no
transitional forms were contained in them." Dr. Eldredge further said,
"...no one has yet found any evidence of such transitional creatures."
All the alleged transitional fossils, that were so dear to the hearts of
evolutionists a generation ago, are now an embarrassment to
them.Archaeopteryx is now considered only a bird, not an intermediate
fossil.
The famous horse series that is still found in some textbooks and
museums has been "discarded" and is considered a "phantom" and "illusion"
because it is not proof of evolution.

Concerning transitional fossils, world famous paleontologist Colin Patterson
admitted that "there is not one such fossil for which one could make a
watertight argument." Not one.
Surely it is not necessary for me to remind college professors that Piltdown
Man was a total fraud and Nebraska Man turned out to be a pig, not an ape
man!
And in recent years we have discovered that Neanderthal Man was simply
a man with rickets and arthritis, not the much desired "ape man."




Hello there athiest plunder;
All of this is quite correct, however you have offered no evidence
for the existence of works of your god. All we have are the words of
several very dead men.
.
User: "I dont believe in atheists"

Title: Re: And lead us not into Piltdown,but deliver us from Lucy Amen 07 Aug 2005 12:25:00 AM
"Carta Philus" <freeloader1990@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:11fb6ihg8dtgtcb@corp.supernews.com...

I don't believe in atheists wrote:

I am waiting for evolutionists to support their assertion that modern man
has somehow been able to observe changes that have taken place in living
beings regardless that modern man is supposedly a result of those
changes in the first place.
Only an uninformed fanatic says that evolution can be proved
scientifically. Christians believe in creationism because we believe in
the
veracity of the Bible but we also have scientific evidence to support our
position.
Evolutionists don't "know" anything about man's origins. They guess,
suppose, etc. but they don't "know."
Honest scientists have become weary and embarrassed at the confusing,
convoluted and contradictory claptrap that often passes as science.
Need I remind our readers of the many incredible mistakes made by
evolutionists because of their faith: Haeckel's recapitulation theory
that
only third-rate scientists believe; also the vestigial organ error; the
failure of the fossil record (that no informed evolutionist uses to prove
his position), etc.
Let me dwell on the fossil record since most people assume it is
supportive
of evolution. It is not.
Dr. David Kitts, professor of geology at the University of Oklahoma said,
"Evolution requires intermediate forms between species and paleontology
does not provide them...."
And Lord Zuckerman admitted there are no "fossil
traces" of transformation from an ape-like creature to man!
Even Stephen J.
Gould of Harvard admitted, "The fossil record with its abrupt transitions
offers no support for gradual change."
The fossil record offers evidence of both abrupt and gradual transitions.
I assume that all college professors
know that Darwin admitted the same fact.
I also assume they know that
Darwin was not trained as a scientist but for the ministry, so
evolutionists
are worshipping at the feet of an apostate preacher!
Famous fossil expert, Niles Eldredge confessed, "...geologists have found
rock layers of all divisions of the last 500 million years and no
transitional forms were contained in them." Dr. Eldredge further said,
"...no one has yet found any evidence of such transitional creatures."
All the alleged transitional fossils, that were so dear to the hearts of
evolutionists a generation ago, are now an embarrassment to
them.Archaeopteryx is now considered only a bird, not an intermediate
fossil.
The famous horse series that is still found in some textbooks and
museums has been "discarded" and is considered a "phantom" and "illusion"
because it is not proof of evolution.

Concerning transitional fossils, world famous paleontologist Colin
Patterson
admitted that "there is not one such fossil for which one could make a
watertight argument." Not one.
Surely it is not necessary for me to remind college professors that
Piltdown
Man was a total fraud and Nebraska Man turned out to be a pig, not an ape
man!
And in recent years we have discovered that Neanderthal Man was simply
a man with rickets and arthritis, not the much desired "ape man."





Hello there athiest plunder;


All of this is quite correct, however you have offered no evidence
for the existence of works of your god. All we have are the words of
several very dead men.

Have you seen all evidence?
.
User: "The DCLXVIth Earl of Helpus."

Title: Re: And lead us not into Piltdown,but deliver us from Lucy Amen 07 Aug 2005 02:25:06 AM
I don't believe in atheists wrote:

"Carta Philus" <freeloader1990@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:11fb6ihg8dtgtcb@corp.supernews.com...

I don't believe in atheists wrote:

I am waiting for evolutionists to support their assertion that modern man
has somehow been able to observe changes that have taken place in living
beings regardless that modern man is supposedly a result of those
changes in the first place.
Only an uninformed fanatic says that evolution can be proved
scientifically. Christians believe in creationism because we believe in
the
veracity of the Bible but we also have scientific evidence to support our
position.
Evolutionists don't "know" anything about man's origins. They guess,
suppose, etc. but they don't "know."
Honest scientists have become weary and embarrassed at the confusing,
convoluted and contradictory claptrap that often passes as science.
Need I remind our readers of the many incredible mistakes made by
evolutionists because of their faith: Haeckel's recapitulation theory
that
only third-rate scientists believe; also the vestigial organ error; the
failure of the fossil record (that no informed evolutionist uses to prove
his position), etc.
Let me dwell on the fossil record since most people assume it is
supportive
of evolution. It is not.
Dr. David Kitts, professor of geology at the University of Oklahoma said,
"Evolution requires intermediate forms between species and paleontology
does not provide them...."
And Lord Zuckerman admitted there are no "fossil
traces" of transformation from an ape-like creature to man!
Even Stephen J.
Gould of Harvard admitted, "The fossil record with its abrupt transitions
offers no support for gradual change."
The fossil record offers evidence of both abrupt and gradual transitions.
I assume that all college professors
know that Darwin admitted the same fact.
I also assume they know that
Darwin was not trained as a scientist but for the ministry, so
evolutionists
are worshipping at the feet of an apostate preacher!
Famous fossil expert, Niles Eldredge confessed, "...geologists have found
rock layers of all divisions of the last 500 million years and no
transitional forms were contained in them." Dr. Eldredge further said,
"...no one has yet found any evidence of such transitional creatures."
All the alleged transitional fossils, that were so dear to the hearts of
evolutionists a generation ago, are now an embarrassment to
them.Archaeopteryx is now considered only a bird, not an intermediate
fossil.
The famous horse series that is still found in some textbooks and
museums has been "discarded" and is considered a "phantom" and "illusion"
because it is not proof of evolution.

Concerning transitional fossils, world famous paleontologist Colin
Patterson
admitted that "there is not one such fossil for which one could make a
watertight argument." Not one.
Surely it is not necessary for me to remind college professors that
Piltdown
Man was a total fraud and Nebraska Man turned out to be a pig, not an ape
man!
And in recent years we have discovered that Neanderthal Man was simply
a man with rickets and arthritis, not the much desired "ape man."





Hello there athiest plunder;


All of this is quite correct, however you have offered no evidence
for the existence of works of your god. All we have are the words of
several very dead men.


Have you seen all evidence?

Have you seen any?
.

User: "Tim McGaughy"

Title: Re: And lead us not into Piltdown,but deliver us from Lucy Amen 07 Aug 2005 07:28:22 AM
I don't believe in atheists wrote:

"Carta Philus" <freeloader1990@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:11fb6ihg8dtgtcb@corp.supernews.com...

I don't believe in atheists wrote:

I am waiting for evolutionists to support their assertion that modern man
has somehow been able to observe changes that have taken place in living
beings regardless that modern man is supposedly a result of those
changes in the first place.
Only an uninformed fanatic says that evolution can be proved
scientifically. Christians believe in creationism because we believe in
the
veracity of the Bible but we also have scientific evidence to support our
position.
Evolutionists don't "know" anything about man's origins. They guess,
suppose, etc. but they don't "know."
Honest scientists have become weary and embarrassed at the confusing,
convoluted and contradictory claptrap that often passes as science.
Need I remind our readers of the many incredible mistakes made by
evolutionists because of their faith: Haeckel's recapitulation theory
that
only third-rate scientists believe; also the vestigial organ error; the
failure of the fossil record (that no informed evolutionist uses to prove
his position), etc.
Let me dwell on the fossil record since most people assume it is
supportive
of evolution. It is not.
Dr. David Kitts, professor of geology at the University of Oklahoma said,
"Evolution requires intermediate forms between species and paleontology
does not provide them...."
And Lord Zuckerman admitted there are no "fossil
traces" of transformation from an ape-like creature to man!
Even Stephen J.
Gould of Harvard admitted, "The fossil record with its abrupt transitions
offers no support for gradual change."
The fossil record offers evidence of both abrupt and gradual transitions.
I assume that all college professors
know that Darwin admitted the same fact.
I also assume they know that
Darwin was not trained as a scientist but for the ministry, so
evolutionists
are worshipping at the feet of an apostate preacher!
Famous fossil expert, Niles Eldredge confessed, "...geologists have found
rock layers of all divisions of the last 500 million years and no
transitional forms were contained in them." Dr. Eldredge further said,
"...no one has yet found any evidence of such transitional creatures."
All the alleged transitional fossils, that were so dear to the hearts of
evolutionists a generation ago, are now an embarrassment to
them.Archaeopteryx is now considered only a bird, not an intermediate
fossil.
The famous horse series that is still found in some textbooks and
museums has been "discarded" and is considered a "phantom" and "illusion"
because it is not proof of evolution.

Concerning transitional fossils, world famous paleontologist Colin
Patterson
admitted that "there is not one such fossil for which one could make a
watertight argument." Not one.
Surely it is not necessary for me to remind college professors that
Piltdown
Man was a total fraud and Nebraska Man turned out to be a pig, not an ape
man!
And in recent years we have discovered that Neanderthal Man was simply
a man with rickets and arthritis, not the much desired "ape man."





Hello there athiest plunder;


All of this is quite correct, however you have offered no evidence
for the existence of works of your god. All we have are the words of
several very dead men.



Have you seen all evidence?

First an appeal to authority, now an appeal to ignorance.
Since we have not seen all relevant evidence, you owe me 5,000 dollars.



.

User: "RAYTARD SPANKER"

Title: Re: And lead us not into Piltdown,but deliver us from Lucy Amen 07 Aug 2005 02:52:38 PM
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet I don't believe in atheists
(Athiests@Fool.com) made the light shine upon us with this:

Have you seen all evidence?

The evidence I've seen is that creationists lie through their false teeth.
In fact, they bolster their numbers through halitosis. Homelessness has
its advantages, doesn't it Raytard?
.
User: "I dont believe in atheists"

Title: Re: And lead us not into Piltdown,but deliver us from Lucy Amen 07 Aug 2005 03:53:01 PM
"RAYTARD SPANKER" <creationist@fools.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96AB831D839EDvicman@216.196.97.136...

Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet I don't believe in atheists
(Athiests@Fool.com) made the light shine upon us with this:

Have you seen all evidence?


The evidence I've seen is that creationists lie through their false teeth.

Then you haven't seen all of the evidence
Please define *Raytard* :)
.



User: "John Baker"

Title: Re: And lead us not into Piltdown,but deliver us from Lucy Amen 07 Aug 2005 03:00:52 AM
On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 00:21:11 -0500, Carta Philus <freeloader1990@yahoo.com>
wrote:

I don't believe in atheists wrote:

I am waiting for evolutionists to support their assertion that modern man
has somehow been able to observe changes that have taken place in living
beings regardless that modern man is supposedly a result of those
changes in the first place.
Only an uninformed fanatic says that evolution can be proved
scientifically. Christians believe in creationism because we believe in the
veracity of the Bible but we also have scientific evidence to support our
position.
Evolutionists don't "know" anything about man's origins. They guess,
suppose, etc. but they don't "know."
Honest scientists have become weary and embarrassed at the confusing,
convoluted and contradictory claptrap that often passes as science.
Need I remind our readers of the many incredible mistakes made by
evolutionists because of their faith: Haeckel's recapitulation theory that
only third-rate scientists believe; also the vestigial organ error; the
failure of the fossil record (that no informed evolutionist uses to prove
his position), etc.
Let me dwell on the fossil record since most people assume it is supportive
of evolution. It is not.
Dr. David Kitts, professor of geology at the University of Oklahoma said,
"Evolution requires intermediate forms between species and paleontology does
not provide them...."
And Lord Zuckerman admitted there are no "fossil
traces" of transformation from an ape-like creature to man!
Even Stephen J.
Gould of Harvard admitted, "The fossil record with its abrupt transitions
offers no support for gradual change."
The fossil record offers evidence of both abrupt and gradual transitions.
I assume that all college professors
know that Darwin admitted the same fact.
I also assume they know that
Darwin was not trained as a scientist but for the ministry, so evolutionists
are worshipping at the feet of an apostate preacher!
Famous fossil expert, Niles Eldredge confessed, "...geologists have found
rock layers of all divisions of the last 500 million years and no
transitional forms were contained in them." Dr. Eldredge further said,
"...no one has yet found any evidence of such transitional creatures."
All the alleged transitional fossils, that were so dear to the hearts of
evolutionists a generation ago, are now an embarrassment to
them.Archaeopteryx is now considered only a bird, not an intermediate
fossil.
The famous horse series that is still found in some textbooks and
museums has been "discarded" and is considered a "phantom" and "illusion"
because it is not proof of evolution.

Concerning transitional fossils, world famous paleontologist Colin Patterson
admitted that "there is not one such fossil for which one could make a
watertight argument." Not one.
Surely it is not necessary for me to remind college professors that Piltdown
Man was a total fraud and Nebraska Man turned out to be a pig, not an ape
man!
And in recent years we have discovered that Neanderthal Man was simply
a man with rickets and arthritis, not the much desired "ape man."





Hello there athiest plunder;


All of this is quite correct, however you have offered no evidence
for the existence of works of your god. All we have are the words of
several very dead men.

Actually, *none* of it is correct. Except your observation that Raytard has
offered no evidence for the existence of his sky pixie, that is. :-)
.


User: "quibbler"

Title: Re: And lead us not into Piltdown,but deliver us from Lucy Amen 07 Aug 2005 10:31:48 AM
In article <aegJe.107$lz.36955@news.uswest.net>,

says...

I am waiting for evolutionists to support their assertion that modern man
has somehow been able to observe changes that have taken place in living
beings regardless that modern man is supposedly a result of those
changes in the first place.

You obviously don't know what the ***** you're talking about in any
fashion. Obviously "change" is observable relative it various
benchmarks. In particular we see massive evidence for both animal and
human evolution through detectable changes in gene frequency,
morphological changes, etc. Even your inbred family must display
evidence of descent with modification, though I suspect that it is in a
dysgenic direction.

Only an uninformed fanatic says that evolution can be proved
scientifically. Christians believe in creationism because we believe in the
veracity of the Bible but we also have scientific evidence to support our
position.

Incorrect. You have no evidence that actually supports the fundamental
xian assertions and honest xians admit that it is all nothing more than
blind faith. You're not an honest xian and thus moronically make claims
you can't support.

Evolutionists don't "know" anything about man's origins. They guess,
suppose, etc. but they don't "know."

Science tells us far more than the holy babble.

Honest scientists have become weary and embarrassed at the confusing,
convoluted and contradictory claptrap that often passes as science.
Need I remind our readers of the many incredible mistakes made by
evolutionists because of their faith: Haeckel's recapitulation theory

Ontogeny and phylogeny are strongly connected and all modern
embryologist accept it as a powerful rule of thumb on the basis of
modern photographs and studies, regardless of hand sketches that Haeckel
did in the 1860's. Therefore, despite constant smear campaigns by
creationists against individuals like Haeckel, the principle of
ontogeny being strongly related to phylogeny is rock solid and still
supports evolution. You know that you can't find informed non-
creationists who deny this connect and all you have is pathetic
creationist spin. Furthermore, the fact that creationists try to attack
early researchers does not provide support for idiotic creationist
alternatives. You claimed you had evidence of your position, but all
you do, as usual, is attack the opposition.
that

only third-rate scientists believe; also the vestigial organ error

There's nothing erroneous about it. Again, just about all serious
scientists accept that anatomical vestiges exist, such as eyes on moles
or wings on ostriches. It matters not at all that these organs have
some present function. A broken computer might "function" as a
doorstop, but that doesn't mean it was "designed" for that purpose.
Thus, it makes no difference that an ostrich might use its non-flying
wings to fan itself in the heat or to maintain balance. It's very clear
that there are only about 30 species of flightless birds out of many
thousands of actual flying birds and their feathers, wings and hollow
bones originally served the purpose of flight adaptation. Thus, they
are vestiges and you are an ignoramus to deny it.
; the

failure of the fossil record (that no informed evolutionist uses to prove
his position),

No, the fossil record is a remarkably comprehensive, detailed
corroboration of precisely what we would expect from evolutionary
adaptation.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
.

User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: And lead us not into Piltdown,but deliver us from Lucy Amen 07 Aug 2005 10:10:50 AM
In episode <aegJe.107$lz.36955@news.uswest.net>, I don't believe in
atheists burst into the room and exclaimed:

"I don't believe in atheists"

Then who *are you talking to?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------
"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
.
User: "I dont believe in atheists"

Title: Re: And lead us not into Piltdown,but deliver us from Lucy Amen 07 Aug 2005 02:03:36 PM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:WpCdncPgcLXnuWvfRVn-tw@megapath.net...

In episode <aegJe.107$lz.36955@news.uswest.net>, I don't believe in
atheists burst into the room and exclaimed:

"I don't believe in atheists"


Then who *are you talking to?

--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------
"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton

Ahhhh.the laziest anti-religious nut in cyberspace...marky the stay at home
mom.
.
User: "Del"

Title: Re: And lead us not into Piltdown,but deliver us from Lucy Amen 07 Aug 2005 09:39:47 PM
I don't believe in atheists wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:WpCdncPgcLXnuWvfRVn-tw@megapath.net...

In episode <aegJe.107$lz.36955@news.uswest.net>, I don't believe in
atheists burst into the room and exclaimed:

"I don't believe in atheists"


Then who *are you talking to?

--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------
"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton

Ahhhh.the laziest anti-religious nut in cyberspace...marky the stay at ho=

me

mom.

But now you also, put them all aside: anger,
wrath, malice, slander, and abusive speech from
your mouth. -- Colossians 3:8
to malign no one, to be uncontentious, gentle,
showing every consideration for all men -- Titus 3:1-2
Therefore, rid yourselves of all malice and all deceit,
hypocrisy, envy, and slander of every kind. -- 1 Peter 2:1
It is also revealing that you responded to everyone except
those who actually rebutted your ***** claims like I
did, here:=20
http://tinyurl.com/bqsvz=D9
.

User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: And lead us not into Piltdown,but deliver us from Lucy Amen 07 Aug 2005 10:56:55 PM
In episode <8WsJe.70$pf1.19988@news.uswest.net>, I don't believe in
atheists burst into the room and exclaimed:


"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:WpCdncPgcLXnuWvfRVn-tw@megapath.net...

In episode <aegJe.107$lz.36955@news.uswest.net>, I don't believe in
atheists burst into the room and exclaimed:

"I don't believe in atheists"


Then who *are you talking to?

--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion Alt-atheism website at:
http://www.alt-atheism.org
-------------------------------------------------- "Come to think of it,
there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the
Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton

Ahhhh.the laziest anti-religious nut in cyberspace...marky the stay at
home mom.

Get. Help.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------
"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
.
User: "I dont believe in atheists"

Title: Re: And lead us not into Piltdown,but deliver us from Lucy Amen 07 Aug 2005 11:10:30 PM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:U8udnRIGz-eaRWvfRVn-jA@megapath.net...

In episode <8WsJe.70$pf1.19988@news.uswest.net>, I don't believe in
atheists burst into the room and exclaimed:


"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:WpCdncPgcLXnuWvfRVn-tw@megapath.net...

In episode <aegJe.107$lz.36955@news.uswest.net>, I don't believe in
atheists burst into the room and exclaimed:

"I don't believe in atheists"


Then who *are you talking to?

--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion Alt-atheism website at:
http://www.alt-atheism.org
-------------------------------------------------- "Come to think of it,
there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the
Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton

Ahhhh.the laziest anti-religious nut in cyberspace...marky the stay at
home mom.


Get. Help.

--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------

Wow 6 whole words this time!!
.
User: "Ben Goren"

Title: Re: And lead us not into Piltdown,but deliver us from Lucy Amen 07 Aug 2005 11:19:01 PM
I don't believe in atheists wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

Get. Help.


Wow 6 whole words this time!!

Er...Ray...I've heard of double vision before, but triple? What
kind of drugs is it that causes /that?/
Besides, didn't you say you were leaving?
Cheers,
b&
--
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User: "I dont believe in atheists"

Title: Re: And lead us not into Piltdown,but deliver us from Lucy Amen 07 Aug 2005 11:26:37 PM
"Ben Goren" <ben@trumpetpower.com> wrote in message
news:42f6de44$1_1@spool9-west.superfeed.net...

I don't believe in atheists wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

Get. Help.


Wow 6 whole words this time!!


Er...Ray...I've heard of double vision before, but triple? What
kind of drugs is it that causes /that?/

Besides, didn't you say you were leaving?

Cheers,

b&

--
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Dear God a trumpet player atheist?
Sort of like a train wreck full of clowns.
Sad but funny.
.
User: "Ben Goren"

Title: Re: And lead us not into Piltdown,but deliver us from Lucy Amen 07 Aug 2005 11:42:44 PM
I don't believe in atheists wrote:

Ben Goren wrote:

I don't believe in atheists wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:


Get. Help.


Wow 6 whole words this time!!


Er...Ray...I've heard of double vision before, but triple? What
kind of drugs is it that causes /that?/

Besides, didn't you say you were leaving?


Dear God a trumpet player atheist? Sort of like a train wreck
full of clowns. Sad but funny.

What is playing the trumpet supposed to have to do with invisible
giant hairy sky apes? Or does this have something to do with the
same drugs that're making you see triple?
Cheers,
b&
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All but God can prove this sentence true.
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User: "I dont believe in atheists"

Title: Re: And lead us not into Piltdown,but deliver us from Lucy Amen 08 Aug 2005 11:12:33 AM
"Ben Goren" <ben@trumpetpower.com> wrote in message
news:42f6e3d2$1_2@spool9-west.superfeed.net...

I don't believe in atheists wrote:

Ben Goren wrote:

I don't believe in atheists wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:


Get. Help.


Wow 6 whole words this time!!


Er...Ray...I've heard of double vision before, but triple? What
kind of drugs is it that causes /that?/

Besides, didn't you say you were leaving?


Dear God a trumpet player atheist? Sort of like a train wreck
full of clowns. Sad but funny.


What is playing the trumpet supposed to have to do with invisible
giant hairy sky apes? Or does this have something to do with the
same drugs that're making you see triple?

You have no formal education in the Sciences for one.
Second,it just strikes me as a lazy way to make a living,you know....a
no-brainer?
.



User: "I dont believe in atheists"

Title: Re: And lead us not into Piltdown,but deliver us from Lucy Amen 07 Aug 2005 11:24:46 PM
"Ben Goren" <ben@trumpetpower.com> wrote in message
news:42f6de44$1_1@spool9-west.superfeed.net...

I don't believe in atheists wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

Get. Help.


Wow 6 whole words this time!!


Er...Ray...I've heard of double vision before, but triple? What
kind of drugs is it that causes /that?/

Besides, didn't you say you were leaving?

Cheers,

b&

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