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Religions > Atheism |
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"L. Raymond" |
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12 Feb 2007 09:56:03 AM |
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And now Jews are starting to lose it |
Out of the major religions in the world, I've always found Judaism to be
the least objectionable, outside of Israel, anyway. They don't
proselytize or try to force their views on other folks, and a good,
solid education is a pretty basic tenet of their faith. But, of course,
while fundamentalist Jews are just as foolish as every other type of
fundy, they seemed in general to be harmless. However, it appears
they're unhappy with the massive amounts of press the Taliban and
anti-intellectual US evangelicals have been getting, so they've decided
to descend to their level.
The following is excerpted from:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7361060
A group of Israeli women are fighting back against what one called
"Taliban-like" Jewish fundamentalists who order women to sit in the back
of the bus and to abstain from wearing "immodest" clothing on public bus
lines used primarily by ultra-Orthodox Jews. The women have filed a
lawsuit in Israel's High Court aimed at reforming the bus lines. Some of
the women see the bus dispute as part of a larger struggle against the
growing influence and radicalization of the ultra-Orthodox in Israel.
....
Today ¡X unofficially ¡X there are more than 30 gender-segregated Haredi
bus routes. In many cases these buses are half the price and the only
lines running between some cities and neighborhoods. They look like
every other public bus: there are no signs telegraphing that they're
aimed at the ultra Orthodox.
There are no written or overtly stated "rules" about gender segregation,
either. It's just the way it is, says one rider who asked not to be
named during a recent ride on the No. 40 bus in Jerusalem.
As the bus approached a Haredi neighborhood, four school girls got up
from their seats and moved to the back of the bus. None wanted to talk
to a reporter.
The lawsuit before Israel's high court alleges that several women have
been harassed, humiliated, taunted and even physically assaulted on the
buses. In December a Canadian Orthodox Jew was on a non-Haredi bus line
en route to the Western Wall, Judaism's holiest site, when she was
assaulted by an ultra-Orthodox man for refusing to move to the back of
the bus. She has signed on to the suit.
"She was physically hurt, beaten very hard," said Orly Erez-Likhowski,
an attorney with the Israel Movement for Progressive Judaism, who is
leading the legal fight against the Ministry of Transportation and the
Egged bus company, a quasi-private line heavily subsidized by the state.
....
Supporters say the legal challenge is part of a wider religious and
cultural struggle against what some see as the growing radicalism and
political clout of the ultra Orthodox. Last month, senior Haredi rabbis
in Jerusalem led a public burning of see-through stockings and other
allegedly risque dress.
Before a gay pride march last fall, Haredi men rioted nightly for weeks,
forcing organizers to hold a toned-down rally in a heavily guarded
stadium instead of a public march.
The Haredi recently launched a short boycott of El Al, Israel's national
airline, after the company flew on the Sabbath following a flight
bottleneck prompted by a labor strike. The airline quickly caved and
pledged never to fly on the Sabbath without approval from ultra-Orthodox
Rabbis.
And in a major decision last month a committee of leading ultra-Orthodox
rabbis here ruled that Haredi women should no longer be allowed to get
academic degrees beyond high school.
It's a potentially devastating edict in a Haredi culture where many
women are the main family bread winner while the men study Torah full
time.
....
"Today in Israel women go around sometimes as if they're at the beach,"
she said. "It's really very undignified and it's erotically stimulating
and it's also just distracting. And that's a form of coercion ¡X I call
that non-religious coercion. I call that coercion of eroticism. That's a
much more serious problem: the creeping degradation of the public
square."
The de facto Haredi bus restrictions, she says, help men focus on their
family ¡X and their wife ¡X and avoid distractions.
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So as usual when men can't control themselves, it's women they seek to
master, not themselves. Notice they want to prevent women from becoming
educated. If even a small community somewhere were to ever suggest it
was right for boys or men to be barred from higher education, a massive
international outcry wound ensue. But since it is men who are
religiously motivated attempting to condemn women to serve as
brood-mares and beasts of burden, it will barely register as a blip on
the map.
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L. Raymond
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: And now Jews are starting to lose it |
12 Feb 2007 09:52:07 PM |
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On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 09:56:03 -0600, "L. Raymond"
<badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
- Refer: <jn78lv5ew85x$.1vdvemflat3md.dlg@40tude.net>
Out of the major religions in the world, I've always found Judaism to be
the least objectionable, outside of Israel, anyway. They don't
proselytize or try to force their views on other folks, and a good,
solid education is a pretty basic tenet of their faith.
As is profound child abuse through strict segregation.
Judaism, in common with all of the Abrahamic bullshitters, is in no
way benign.
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