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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Crazyalec"
Date: 15 Nov 2003 03:43:34 AM
Object: And you call this a belief?
"Suicide Car Bombers Kill 23 in Turkey
3 minutes ago
By JAMES C. HELICKE, Associated Press Writer
ISTANBUL, Turkey - Suicide car bombers attacked two synagogues in
downtown Istanbul at almost the same time Saturday, killing 23 people,
the interior minister said.
HOW CAN YOU call religion a belief?
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User: "bluskie"

Title: Re: And you call this a belief? 15 Nov 2003 03:00:10 PM
(Crazyalec) wrote in message news:<37c9d6cf.0311150143.2e19a2aa@posting.google.com>...

"Suicide Car Bombers Kill 23 in Turkey
3 minutes ago

By JAMES C. HELICKE, Associated Press Writer

ISTANBUL, Turkey - Suicide car bombers attacked two synagogues in
downtown Istanbul at almost the same time Saturday, killing 23 people,
the interior minister said.


HOW CAN YOU call religion a belief?

who cares what they believe in, regardless of the faith system, it's
vengence, and vengence has no religious bias.
.
User: "Crazyalec"

Title: Re: And you call this a belief? 15 Nov 2003 10:29:26 PM
(bluskie) wrote in message news:<a9dd1b95.0311151300.1cdf1958@posting.google.com>...

oleka2000@yahoo.com (Crazyalec) wrote in message news:<37c9d6cf.0311150143.2e19a2aa@posting.google.com>...

"Suicide Car Bombers Kill 23 in Turkey
3 minutes ago

By JAMES C. HELICKE, Associated Press Writer

ISTANBUL, Turkey - Suicide car bombers attacked two synagogues in
downtown Istanbul at almost the same time Saturday, killing 23 people,
the interior minister said.


HOW CAN YOU call religion a belief?


who cares what they believe in,

Those who are potential victims of a terrorism based on religion.
regardless of the faith system, it's

vengence, and vengence has no religious bias.

But religious vengence does have it
.

User: "jwk"

Title: Re: And you call this a belief? 15 Nov 2003 10:57:53 PM
(bluskie) wrote in message news:<a9dd1b95.0311151300.1cdf1958@posting.google.com>...

oleka2000@yahoo.com (Crazyalec) wrote in message news:<37c9d6cf.0311150143.2e19a2aa@posting.google.com>...

"Suicide Car Bombers Kill 23 in Turkey
3 minutes ago

By JAMES C. HELICKE, Associated Press Writer

ISTANBUL, Turkey - Suicide car bombers attacked two synagogues in
downtown Istanbul at almost the same time Saturday, killing 23 people,
the interior minister said.


HOW CAN YOU call religion a belief?


who cares what they believe in, regardless of the faith system, it's
vengence, and vengence has no religious bias.

Vengence for what? What did the jews in Turkey do to somebody?
jwk
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User: "Crazyalec"

Title: Re: And you call this a belief? 16 Nov 2003 05:41:30 PM
(jwk) wrote in message news:<c6f5ba32.0311152057.5e475d98@posting.google.com>...


Vengence for what? What did the jews in Turkey do to somebody?

jwk

Nothing yet.But soon they'll start blowing up buses with children
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User: "Bill, The Avender"

Title: Re: And you call this a belief? 16 Nov 2003 05:55:56 PM
In alt.atheism on 16 Nov 2003 15:41:30 -0800,

(Crazyalec) wrote:

jwkinraleigh@yahoo.com (jwk) wrote in message news:<c6f5ba32.0311152057.5e475d98@posting.google.com>...


Vengence for what? What did the jews in Turkey do to somebody?

jwk


Nothing yet.But soon they'll start blowing up buses with children

That's odd. If I wanted to blow up a bus, I'd use dynamite.
--
L8r,
Bill, the Avender
*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*
I'm not so impressed with those who can descramble a cable TV signal.
What would _really_ impress me is if they could descramble eggs.
*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*
.
User: "Crazyalec"

Title: Re: And you call this a belief? 20 Nov 2003 04:09:47 PM
(Bill, The Avender) wrote in message news:<3fc80e6c.32706576@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>...

In alt.atheism on 16 Nov 2003 15:41:30 -0800,


(Crazyalec) wrote:

jwkinraleigh@yahoo.com (jwk) wrote in message news:<c6f5ba32.0311152057.5e475d98@posting.google.com>...


Vengence for what? What did the jews in Turkey do to somebody?

jwk


Nothing yet.But soon they'll start blowing up buses with children


That's odd. If I wanted to blow up a bus, I'd use dynamite.

Is that what they teach you in Al-Qaeda camps?
.
User: "Blast Femur"

Title: Re: And you call this a belief? 21 Nov 2003 10:59:55 AM
(Crazyalec) wrote in
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Avender@SpamMeNot.com (Bill, The Avender) wrote in message
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In alt.atheism on 16 Nov 2003 15:41:30 -0800,


(Crazyalec) wrote:

jwkinraleigh@yahoo.com (jwk) wrote in message
news:<c6f5ba32.0311152057.5e475d98@posting.google.com>...


Vengence for what? What did the jews in Turkey do to somebody?

jwk


Nothing yet.But soon they'll start blowing up buses with children


That's odd. If I wanted to blow up a bus, I'd use dynamite.


Is that what they teach you in Al-Qaeda camps?

You come off sounding suicidal, little buddy. Can I ask you something?
What's keeping you from pulling the trigger?
--
Blast Femur
______________
"A long time ago, God made a Divine Plan. Gave it a lot of thought, decided
it was a good plan, put it into practice. And for billions and billions of
years, the Divine Plan has been doing just fine. Now, you come along, and
pray for something. Well suppose the thing you want isn't in God's Divine
Plan? What do you want Him to do? Change His plan? Just for you? Doesn't it
seem a little arrogant? It's a Divine Plan. What's the use of being God if
every run-down shmuck with a two-dollar prayerbook can come along and *****
up Your Plan?"
-- George Carlin (NYC, 2/6/99)
.
User: "Crazyalec"

Title: Re: And you call this a belief? 22 Nov 2003 02:36:35 AM
(Blast Femur) wrote in message news:<943A52FDFblastfemur@127.0.0.1>...

(Crazyalec) wrote in
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Avender@SpamMeNot.com (Bill, The Avender) wrote in message
news:<3fc80e6c.32706576@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>...

In alt.atheism on 16 Nov 2003 15:41:30 -0800,


(Crazyalec) wrote:

jwkinraleigh@yahoo.com (jwk) wrote in message
news:<c6f5ba32.0311152057.5e475d98@posting.google.com>...


Vengence for what? What did the jews in Turkey do to somebody?

jwk


Nothing yet.But soon they'll start blowing up buses with children


That's odd. If I wanted to blow up a bus, I'd use dynamite.


Is that what they teach you in Al-Qaeda camps?


You come off sounding suicidal, little buddy. Can I ask you something?

What's keeping you from pulling the trigger?

Are you saying you have a monopoly on jokes, you idiot?
.


User: "Bill, The Avender"

Title: Re: And you call this a belief? 20 Nov 2003 05:10:20 PM
In alt.atheism on 20 Nov 2003 14:09:47 -0800,

(Crazyalec) wrote:

Avender@SpamMeNot.com (Bill, The Avender) wrote in message news:<3fc80e6c.32706576@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>...

In alt.atheism on 16 Nov 2003 15:41:30 -0800,


(Crazyalec) wrote:

jwkinraleigh@yahoo.com (jwk) wrote in message news:<c6f5ba32.0311152057.5e475d98@posting.google.com>...


Vengence for what? What did the jews in Turkey do to somebody?

jwk


Nothing yet.But soon they'll start blowing up buses with children


That's odd. If I wanted to blow up a bus, I'd use dynamite.


Is that what they teach you in Al-Qaeda camps?

You're not wrapped too tightly, are you? Your mamma' drop you on your
head when you were a baby or something? A more appropriate reply to
an obvious joke might be, "Ha ha" or, if you really didn't think it
was funny, "I didn't think that was funny". But accusing someone of
terrorism for telling a joke is a bit... "insane", all things
considered. Whatever your condition is, I'm sure there's help for
you. But you have to _want_ it first, otherwise it won't do you a bit
of good. Poor little waif. I feel genuinely sorry for you suffering
through life with your obvious impairments.
--
L8r,
Bill, the Avender
*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*
I'm not so impressed with those who can descramble a cable TV signal.
What would _really_ impress me is if they could descramble eggs.
*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*
.
User: "Crazyalec"

Title: Re: And you call this a belief? 22 Nov 2003 02:37:41 AM
(Bill, The Avender) wrote in message news:<3fbd4925.509676@localhost>...

In alt.atheism on 20 Nov 2003 14:09:47 -0800,


(Crazyalec) wrote:

(Bill, The Avender) wrote in message news:<3fc80e6c.32706576@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>...

In alt.atheism on 16 Nov 2003 15:41:30 -0800,


(Crazyalec) wrote:

jwkinraleigh@yahoo.com (jwk) wrote in message news:<c6f5ba32.0311152057.5e475d98@posting.google.com>...


Vengence for what? What did the jews in Turkey do to somebody?

jwk


Nothing yet.But soon they'll start blowing up buses with children


That's odd. If I wanted to blow up a bus, I'd use dynamite.


Is that what they teach you in Al-Qaeda camps?


You're not wrapped too tightly, are you? Your mamma' drop you on your
head when you were a baby or something? A more appropriate reply to
an obvious joke might be, "Ha ha" or, if you really didn't think it
was funny, "I didn't think that was funny". But accusing someone of
terrorism for telling a joke is a bit... "insane", all things
considered. Whatever your condition is, I'm sure there's help for
you. But you have to _want_ it first, otherwise it won't do you a bit
of good. Poor little waif. I feel genuinely sorry for you suffering
through life with your obvious impairments.

How stupid are you if you don't see the obvious joke in my reply, you
suicidal moron?
.
User: "Bill, The Avender"

Title: Re: And you call this a belief? 22 Nov 2003 03:04:49 AM
In alt.atheism on 22 Nov 2003 00:37:41 -0800,

(Crazyalec) wrote:

Avender@SpamMeNot.com (Bill, The Avender) wrote in message news:<3fbd4925.509676@localhost>...

In alt.atheism on 20 Nov 2003 14:09:47 -0800,


(Crazyalec) wrote:

Avender@SpamMeNot.com (Bill, The Avender) wrote in message news:<3fc80e6c.32706576@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>...

In alt.atheism on 16 Nov 2003 15:41:30 -0800,


(Crazyalec) wrote:

jwkinraleigh@yahoo.com (jwk) wrote in message news:<c6f5ba32.0311152057.5e475d98@posting.google.com>...


Vengence for what? What did the jews in Turkey do to somebody?

jwk


Nothing yet.But soon they'll start blowing up buses with children


That's odd. If I wanted to blow up a bus, I'd use dynamite.


Is that what they teach you in Al-Qaeda camps?


You're not wrapped too tightly, are you? Your mamma' drop you on your
head when you were a baby or something? A more appropriate reply to
an obvious joke might be, "Ha ha" or, if you really didn't think it
was funny, "I didn't think that was funny". But accusing someone of
terrorism for telling a joke is a bit... "insane", all things
considered. Whatever your condition is, I'm sure there's help for
you. But you have to _want_ it first, otherwise it won't do you a bit
of good. Poor little waif. I feel genuinely sorry for you suffering
through life with your obvious impairments.


How stupid are you if you don't see the obvious joke in my reply, you
suicidal moron?

*Sigh*... Okay, I still don't see the joke, but I'll give the benefit
of the doubt and assume your intention wasn't to be snotty. That's
how I took it, but perhaps that was wrong. If that's the case, then I
apologize for patronizing you as I did.
--
L8r,
Bill, the Avender
*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*
I'm not so impressed with those who can descramble a cable TV signal.
What would _really_ impress me is if they could descramble eggs.
*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*
.




User: "jwk"

Title: Re: And you call this a belief? 17 Nov 2003 07:42:37 AM
(Bill, The Avender) wrote in message news:<3fc80e6c.32706576@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>...

In alt.atheism on 16 Nov 2003 15:41:30 -0800,


(Crazyalec) wrote:

jwkinraleigh@yahoo.com (jwk) wrote in message news:<c6f5ba32.0311152057.5e475d98@posting.google.com>...


Vengence for what? What did the jews in Turkey do to somebody?

jwk


Nothing yet.But soon they'll start blowing up buses with children


That's odd. If I wanted to blow up a bus, I'd use dynamite.

LOL Man we really need a smartass-answer-of-the-month award!
jwk
(How did I misplace this answer the first time? Implausablegoddamnit.)
.
User: "Bill, The Avender"

Title: Re: And you call this a belief? 18 Nov 2003 03:32:23 PM
In alt.atheism on 17 Nov 2003 05:42:37 -0800,

(jwk) wrote:

Avender@SpamMeNot.com (Bill, The Avender) wrote in message news:<3fc80e6c.32706576@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>...

In alt.atheism on 16 Nov 2003 15:41:30 -0800,


(Crazyalec) wrote:

(jwk) wrote in message news:<c6f5ba32.0311152057.5e475d98@posting.google.com>...


Vengence for what? What did the jews in Turkey do to somebody?

jwk


Nothing yet.But soon they'll start blowing up buses with children


That's odd. If I wanted to blow up a bus, I'd use dynamite.


LOL Man we really need a smartass-answer-of-the-month award!

jwk

I always say it's better to be a smartass than a dumbass. ;-)
--
L8r,
Bill, the Avender
*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*
I'm not so impressed with those who can descramble a cable TV signal.
What would _really_ impress me is if they could descramble eggs.
*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*
.




User: "bluskie"

Title: Re: And you call this a belief? 16 Nov 2003 05:53:32 AM
(jwk) wrote in message news:<c6f5ba32.0311152057.5e475d98@posting.google.com>...

wildbluskies@hotmail.com (bluskie) wrote in message news:<a9dd1b95.0311151300.1cdf1958@posting.google.com>...

oleka2000@yahoo.com (Crazyalec) wrote in message news:<37c9d6cf.0311150143.2e19a2aa@posting.google.com>...

"Suicide Car Bombers Kill 23 in Turkey
3 minutes ago

By JAMES C. HELICKE, Associated Press Writer

ISTANBUL, Turkey - Suicide car bombers attacked two synagogues in
downtown Istanbul at almost the same time Saturday, killing 23 people,
the interior minister said.


HOW CAN YOU call religion a belief?


who cares what they believe in, regardless of the faith system, it's
vengence, and vengence has no religious bias.


Vengence for what? What did the jews in Turkey do to somebody?

jwk

Probably sold them some BAD Kosher turkey.
http://www.haruth.com/SFWKosherblesTurkeyLunchsm.jpg
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User: "*nemo*"

Title: Re: And you call this a belief? 15 Nov 2003 04:20:35 AM
In article <37c9d6cf.0311150143.2e19a2aa@posting.google.com>,
(Crazyalec) wrote:

"Suicide Car Bombers Kill 23 in Turkey
3 minutes ago

By JAMES C. HELICKE, Associated Press Writer

ISTANBUL, Turkey - Suicide car bombers attacked two synagogues in
downtown Istanbul at almost the same time Saturday, killing 23 people,
the interior minister said.


HOW CAN YOU call religion a belief?

Of course religion is a "belief." Maybe not always a *good* one, but it
is a belief nonetheless. What other name would you give it?
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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User: "Crazyalec"

Title: Re: And you call this a belief? 15 Nov 2003 04:50:14 PM
*nemo* <nemo0037@yahoo.dieSPAM.com> wrote in message news:<nemo0037-52D404.05201915112003@news06.east.earthlink.net>...

In article <37c9d6cf.0311150143.2e19a2aa@posting.google.com>,
oleka2000@yahoo.com (Crazyalec) wrote:

"Suicide Car Bombers Kill 23 in Turkey
3 minutes ago

By JAMES C. HELICKE, Associated Press Writer

ISTANBUL, Turkey - Suicide car bombers attacked two synagogues in
downtown Istanbul at almost the same time Saturday, killing 23 people,
the interior minister said.


HOW CAN YOU call religion a belief?


Of course religion is a "belief." Maybe not always a *good* one, but it
is a belief nonetheless. What other name would you give it?

Belief (by definition) is a thought.For example if I believe there are
aliens on other planets or that you are an idiot or that OJ Simpson is
guilty of murders, that is still a belief, an opinion. Of course if I
had a power to kill people based on my belief, you'd have a problem
with it, and you wouldn't call it a belief. So why is religion gets a
special dispensation?
Think about it, Hitler had a belief too. Does it justify nazism? So
how is "religious" belief justifies theism, that murdering people?
.
User: "Blast Femur"

Title: Re: And you call this a belief? 15 Nov 2003 09:00:12 PM
(Crazyalec) wrote in
news:37c9d6cf.0311151450.5a9449c1@posting.google.com:


Belief (by definition) is a thought.For example if I believe there are
aliens on other planets or that you are an idiot or that OJ Simpson is
guilty of murders, that is still a belief, an opinion. Of course if I
had a power to kill people based on my belief, you'd have a problem
with it, and you wouldn't call it a belief. So why is religion gets a
special dispensation?

Because it caters to the many, not the few. (circa 1982, Star Trek II,
The Wrath of Khan)

Think about it, Hitler had a belief too. Does it justify nazism? So
how is "religious" belief justifies theism, that murdering people?

Fundamentalism is a disease. As is all religion. But you are preaching
to the choir here. Perhaps you should be directing your questions to one
of the christian newsgroups.
--
Blast Femur
______________
"We look at the ancient Greeks with their gods on a mountain top throwing
lightning bolts and say, 'Those ancient Greeks. They were so silly. So
primitive and naive. Not like our religions. We have burning bushes
talking to people and guys walking on water. We're ...sophisticated.'"

-Paul Provenza
.
User: "Crazyalec"

Title: Re: And you call this a belief? 16 Nov 2003 05:45:35 PM
Blast Femur <you@wish.com> wrote in message news:<Xns9434C145BA5ABblastfemur@63.240.76.16>...

oleka2000@yahoo.com (Crazyalec) wrote in
news:37c9d6cf.0311151450.5a9449c1@posting.google.com:



Belief (by definition) is a thought.For example if I believe there are
aliens on other planets or that you are an idiot or that OJ Simpson is
guilty of murders, that is still a belief, an opinion. Of course if I
had a power to kill people based on my belief, you'd have a problem
with it, and you wouldn't call it a belief. So why is religion gets a
special dispensation?


Because it caters to the many, not the few. (circa 1982, Star Trek II,
The Wrath of Khan)

So is fascism


Think about it, Hitler had a belief too. Does it justify nazism? So
how is "religious" belief justifies theism, that murdering people?


Fundamentalism is a disease. As is all religion. But you are preaching
to the choir here. Perhaps you should be directing your questions to one
of the christian newsgroups.

Wrong.Atheists are the ones whp argue about religion like its a
belief. Imagine cops instead of catching mafia would be sitting and
arguing how mafia is bad.


--
Blast Femur

______________

"We look at the ancient Greeks with their gods on a mountain top throwing
lightning bolts and say, 'Those ancient Greeks. They were so silly. So
primitive and naive. Not like our religions. We have burning bushes
talking to people and guys walking on water. We're ...sophisticated.'"

-Paul Provenza

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User: "Blast Femur"

Title: Re: And you call this a belief? 16 Nov 2003 08:35:58 PM
(Crazyalec) wrote in
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Blast Femur <you@wish.com> wrote in message
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(Crazyalec) wrote in
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Belief (by definition) is a thought.For example if I believe there
are aliens on other planets or that you are an idiot or that OJ
Simpson is guilty of murders, that is still a belief, an opinion.
Of course if I had a power to kill people based on my belief, you'd
have a problem with it, and you wouldn't call it a belief. So why
is religion gets a special dispensation?


Because it caters to the many, not the few. (circa 1982, Star Trek
II, The Wrath of Khan)


So is fascism

So is Scientology, but we won't mention that here...


Think about it, Hitler had a belief too. Does it justify nazism? So
how is "religious" belief justifies theism, that murdering people?


Fundamentalism is a disease. As is all religion. But you are
preaching to the choir here. Perhaps you should be directing your
questions to one of the christian newsgroups.


Wrong.Atheists are the ones whp argue about religion like its a
belief.

Religion is a belief.

Imagine cops instead of catching mafia would be sitting and
arguing how mafia is bad.

Imagine cops arresting streetcorner evangelists for disturbing the peace.
--
Blast Femur
______________
"We look at the ancient Greeks with their gods on a mountain top throwing
lightning bolts and say, 'Those ancient Greeks. They were so silly. So
primitive and naive. Not like our religions. We have burning bushes
talking to people and guys walking on water. We're ...sophisticated.'"

-Paul Provenza
.
User: "Crazyalec"

Title: Re: And you call this a belief? 20 Nov 2003 04:05:07 PM
Blast Femur <you@wish.com> wrote in message news:<Xns9435BD2A0F008blastfemur@216.148.227.77>...

Imagine cops arresting streetcorner evangelists for disturbing the peace.

--
Blast Femur

Too bad stupidity is not a crime.You'd get life in prison
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User: "Blast Femur"

Title: Re: And you call this a belief? 21 Nov 2003 10:36:14 AM
(Crazyalec) wrote in
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Blast Femur <you@wish.com> wrote in message
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Imagine cops arresting streetcorner evangelists for disturbing the
peace.

--
Blast Femur



Too bad stupidity is not a crime.You'd get life in prison

Thanks. You just got life in the bozo bin, *****.
--
Blast Femur
______________
"A long time ago, God made a Divine Plan. Gave it a lot of thought, decided
it was a good plan, put it into practice. And for billions and billions of
years, the Divine Plan has been doing just fine. Now, you come along, and
pray for something. Well suppose the thing you want isn't in God's Divine
Plan? What do you want Him to do? Change His plan? Just for you? Doesn't it
seem a little arrogant? It's a Divine Plan. What's the use of being God if
every run-down shmuck with a two-dollar prayerbook can come along and *****
up Your Plan?"
-- George Carlin (NYC, 2/6/99)
.
User: "Crazyalec"

Title: Re: And you call this a belief? 22 Nov 2003 02:41:58 AM
(Blast Femur) wrote in message news:<943A5C716blastfemur@127.0.0.1>...

oleka2000@yahoo.com (Crazyalec) wrote in
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Blast Femur <

> wrote in message
news:<Xns9435BD2A0F008blastfemur@216.148.227.77>...

Imagine cops arresting streetcorner evangelists for disturbing the
peace.

--
Blast Femur



Too bad stupidity is not a crime.You'd get life in prison


Thanks. You just got life in the bozo bin, *****.

--

Hmmm...its you who is stupid, not me
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User: "Clayton the Yogurt Based Beverage"

Title: Re: And you call this a belief? 21 Nov 2003 06:44:33 PM

Blast Femur <you@wish.com> wrote in message
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Imagine cops arresting streetcorner evangelists for disturbing the
peace.

There's one guy in Brisbane I wish they would arrest. He stands right on
the edge of King George Square so he can assault both the people trying to
relax in the park and those stuck at the crosswalk having to listen to him.
He's a fucking psycho....aggressive and so self righteous you feel like
throwing him in front of one of the busses going past. Glad I don't live
there anymore and have to put up with him.
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User: "Blast Femur"

Title: Re: And you call this a belief? 21 Nov 2003 07:26:36 PM
"Clayton the Yogurt Based Beverage" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKoptusnet.com.au>
wrote in news:3fbeb12e$0$20496$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au:


Blast Femur <you@wish.com> wrote in message
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Imagine cops arresting streetcorner evangelists for disturbing the
peace.


There's one guy in Brisbane I wish they would arrest. He stands right
on the edge of King George Square so he can assault both the people
trying to relax in the park and those stuck at the crosswalk having to
listen to him. He's a fucking psycho....aggressive and so self
righteous you feel like throwing him in front of one of the busses
going past. Glad I don't live there anymore and have to put up with
him.


I saw one of those idiots in my town not too long ago. Stomping around
waving a big jeebus sign and making a total ***** out of himself. As I
passed by I shouted "Zeus is your savior!!" out my window. My kids got a
kick out of that.
--
Blast Femur
______________
"We look at the ancient Greeks with their gods on a mountain top throwing
lightning bolts and say, 'Those ancient Greeks. They were so silly. So
primitive and naive. Not like our religions. We have burning bushes
talking to people and guys walking on water. We're ...sophisticated.'"

-Paul Provenza
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User: "George Dance"

Title: Re: And you call this a belief? 16 Nov 2003 08:00:17 AM
(Crazyalec) wrote in message news:<37c9d6cf.0311151450.5a9449c1@posting.google.com>...

*nemo* <nemo0037@yahoo.dieSPAM.com> wrote in message news:<nemo0037-52D404.05201915112003@news06.east.earthlink.net>...

In article <37c9d6cf.0311150143.2e19a2aa@posting.google.com>,

(Crazyalec) wrote:

"Suicide Car Bombers Kill 23 in Turkey
3 minutes ago

By JAMES C. HELICKE, Associated Press Writer

ISTANBUL, Turkey - Suicide car bombers attacked two synagogues in
downtown Istanbul at almost the same time Saturday, killing 23 people,
the interior minister said.


HOW CAN YOU call religion a belief?


Of course religion is a "belief." Maybe not always a *good* one, but it
is a belief nonetheless. What other name would you give it?


Belief (by definition) is a thought.For example if I believe there are
aliens on other planets or that you are an idiot or that OJ Simpson is
guilty of murders, that is still a belief, an opinion. Of course if I
had a power to kill people based on my belief, you'd have a problem
with it, and you wouldn't call it a belief.

Sure would. If you thought OJ was a murderer, and killed him because
of that, your killing of him would not be a belief but an action; but
it would be an action based on your belief.

So why is religion gets a
special dispensation?

Religion doesn't get a special dispensation. Someone who kills
because of a religious belief is no different from someone who kills
because of any other belief.

Think about it, Hitler had a belief too. Does it justify nazism? So
how is "religious" belief justifies theism, that murdering people?

Religious belief does not justify murdering anyone.
.
User: "Crazyalec"

Title: Re: And you call this a belief? 16 Nov 2003 05:49:40 PM
(George Dance) wrote in message news:<6312c50b.0311160600.2bbb6e1c@posting.google.com>...

oleka2000@yahoo.com (Crazyalec) wrote in message news:<37c9d6cf.0311151450.5a9449c1@posting.google.com>...

*nemo* <nemo0037@yahoo.dieSPAM.com> wrote in message news:<nemo0037-52D404.05201915112003@news06.east.earthlink.net>...

In article <37c9d6cf.0311150143.2e19a2aa@posting.google.com>,
oleka2000@yahoo.com (Crazyalec) wrote:

"Suicide Car Bombers Kill 23 in Turkey
3 minutes ago

By JAMES C. HELICKE, Associated Press Writer

ISTANBUL, Turkey - Suicide car bombers attacked two synagogues in
downtown Istanbul at almost the same time Saturday, killing 23 people,
the interior minister said.


HOW CAN YOU call religion a belief?


Of course religion is a "belief." Maybe not always a *good* one, but it
is a belief nonetheless. What other name would you give it?


Belief (by definition) is a thought.For example if I believe there are
aliens on other planets or that you are an idiot or that OJ Simpson is
guilty of murders, that is still a belief, an opinion. Of course if I
had a power to kill people based on my belief, you'd have a problem
with it, and you wouldn't call it a belief.


Sure would. If you thought OJ was a murderer, and killed him because
of that, your killing of him would not be a belief but an action; but
it would be an action based on your belief.

So religion kill based on a belief just like I'd kill OJ based on my
belief.Right?
I mean using your logic, Islam should be outlawed based on what they
did on Sep 11.


So why is religion gets a
special dispensation?


Religion doesn't get a special dispensation. Someone who kills
because of a religious belief is no different from someone who kills
because of any other belief.

Fascism is a belief too. Why is killing based on fascism is bad, but
based on religion is not?


Think about it, Hitler had a belief too. Does it justify nazism? So
how is "religious" belief justifies theism, that murdering people?


Religious belief does not justify murdering anyone.

Of course not. But they keep doing it everyday.
.
User: "jwk"

Title: Re: And you call this a belief? 17 Nov 2003 07:41:26 AM
(Crazyalec) wrote in message news:<37c9d6cf.0311161549.6c40b11c@posting.google.com>...

georgedance@hotmail.com (George Dance) wrote in message news:<6312c50b.0311160600.2bbb6e1c@posting.google.com>...

(Crazyalec) wrote in message news:<37c9d6cf.0311151450.5a9449c1@posting.google.com>...

*nemo* <nemo0037@yahoo.dieSPAM.com> wrote in message news:<nemo0037-52D404.05201915112003@news06.east.earthlink.net>...

In article <37c9d6cf.0311150143.2e19a2aa@posting.google.com>,

(Crazyalec) wrote:

"Suicide Car Bombers Kill 23 in Turkey
3 minutes ago

By JAMES C. HELICKE, Associated Press Writer

ISTANBUL, Turkey - Suicide car bombers attacked two synagogues in
downtown Istanbul at almost the same time Saturday, killing 23 people,
the interior minister said.


HOW CAN YOU call religion a belief?


Of course religion is a "belief." Maybe not always a *good* one, but it
is a belief nonetheless. What other name would you give it?


Belief (by definition) is a thought.For example if I believe there are
aliens on other planets or that you are an idiot or that OJ Simpson is
guilty of murders, that is still a belief, an opinion. Of course if I
had a power to kill people based on my belief, you'd have a problem
with it, and you wouldn't call it a belief.


Sure would. If you thought OJ was a murderer, and killed him because
of that, your killing of him would not be a belief but an action; but
it would be an action based on your belief.


So religion kill based on a belief just like I'd kill OJ based on my
belief.Right?
I mean using your logic, Islam should be outlawed based on what they
did on Sep 11.


So why is religion gets a
special dispensation?


Religion doesn't get a special dispensation. Someone who kills
because of a religious belief is no different from someone who kills
because of any other belief.


Fascism is a belief too. Why is killing based on fascism is bad, but
based on religion is not?


Think about it, Hitler had a belief too. Does it justify nazism? So
how is "religious" belief justifies theism, that murdering people?


Religious belief does not justify murdering anyone.


Of course not. But they keep doing it everyday.

LOL Man we really need a smartass-answer-of-the-month award!
jwk
.
User: "jwk"

Title: Re: And you call this a belief? 17 Nov 2003 11:49:31 AM
(jwk) wrote in message news:<c6f5ba32.0311170541.5aaaf4de@posting.google.com>...

oleka2000@yahoo.com (Crazyalec) wrote in message news:<37c9d6cf.0311161549.6c40b11c@posting.google.com>...

georgedance@hotmail.com (George Dance) wrote in message news:<6312c50b.0311160600.2bbb6e1c@posting.google.com>...

oleka2000@yahoo.com (Crazyalec) wrote in message news:<37c9d6cf.0311151450.5a9449c1@posting.google.com>...

*nemo* <nemo0037@yahoo.dieSPAM.com> wrote in message news:<nemo0037-52D404.05201915112003@news06.east.earthlink.net>...

In article <37c9d6cf.0311150143.2e19a2aa@posting.google.com>,
oleka2000@yahoo.com (Crazyalec) wrote:

"Suicide Car Bombers Kill 23 in Turkey
3 minutes ago

By JAMES C. HELICKE, Associated Press Writer

ISTANBUL, Turkey - Suicide car bombers attacked two synagogues in
downtown Istanbul at almost the same time Saturday, killing 23 people,
the interior minister said.


HOW CAN YOU call religion a belief?


Of course religion is a "belief." Maybe not always a *good* one, but it
is a belief nonetheless. What other name would you give it?


Belief (by definition) is a thought.For example if I believe there are
aliens on other planets or that you are an idiot or that OJ Simpson is
guilty of murders, that is still a belief, an opinion. Of course if I
had a power to kill people based on my belief, you'd have a problem
with it, and you wouldn't call it a belief.


Sure would. If you thought OJ was a murderer, and killed him because
of that, your killing of him would not be a belief but an action; but
it would be an action based on your belief.


So religion kill based on a belief just like I'd kill OJ based on my
belief.Right?
I mean using your logic, Islam should be outlawed based on what they
did on Sep 11.


So why is religion gets a
special dispensation?


Religion doesn't get a special dispensation. Someone who kills
because of a religious belief is no different from someone who kills
because of any other belief.


Fascism is a belief too. Why is killing based on fascism is bad, but
based on religion is not?


Think about it, Hitler had a belief too. Does it justify nazism? So
how is "religious" belief justifies theism, that murdering people?


Religious belief does not justify murdering anyone.


Of course not. But they keep doing it everyday.


LOL Man we really need a smartass-answer-of-the-month award!

jwk

This response was supposed to go down the thread some. I must have
click the wrong post to reply to.
.


User: "Erica"

Title: Re: And you call this a belief? 17 Nov 2003 01:16:39 AM
In article <37c9d6cf.0311161549.6c40b11c@posting.google.com>,
(Crazyalec) wrote:

georgedance@hotmail.com (George Dance) wrote in message
news:<6312c50b.0311160600.2bbb6e1c@posting.google.com>...

(Crazyalec) wrote in message
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*nemo* <nemo0037@yahoo.dieSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:<nemo0037-52D404.05201915112003@news06.east.earthlink.net>...

In article <37c9d6cf.0311150143.2e19a2aa@posting.google.com>,

(Crazyalec) wrote:

"Suicide Car Bombers Kill 23 in Turkey
3 minutes ago

By JAMES C. HELICKE, Associated Press Writer

ISTANBUL, Turkey - Suicide car bombers attacked two synagogues in
downtown Istanbul at almost the same time Saturday, killing 23
people,
the interior minister said.


HOW CAN YOU call religion a belief?


Of course religion is a "belief." Maybe not always a *good* one, but it
is a belief nonetheless. What other name would you give it?


Belief (by definition) is a thought.For example if I believe there are
aliens on other planets or that you are an idiot or that OJ Simpson is
guilty of murders, that is still a belief, an opinion. Of course if I
had a power to kill people based on my belief, you'd have a problem
with it, and you wouldn't call it a belief.


Sure would. If you thought OJ was a murderer, and killed him because
of that, your killing of him would not be a belief but an action; but
it would be an action based on your belief.


So religion kill based on a belief just like I'd kill OJ based on my
belief.Right?
I mean using your logic, Islam should be outlawed based on what they
did on Sep 11.


So why is religion gets a
special dispensation?


Religion doesn't get a special dispensation. Someone who kills
because of a religious belief is no different from someone who kills
because of any other belief.


Fascism is a belief too. Why is killing based on fascism is bad, but
based on religion is not?

Whoever said that killing based on religion wasn't also bad? Who is
making this assertion? The person doing the killing?
Isn't religion like the gun in "Guns don't kill people; people kill
people"? The thing itself doesn't committ the murder. It is all in how
the thing is being used, for good or evil.

Think about it, Hitler had a belief too. Does it justify nazism? So
how is "religious" belief justifies theism, that murdering people?


Religious belief does not justify murdering anyone.


Of course not. But they keep doing it everyday.

Folks are murdered everyday, for a myriad of reasons, none of them
making the person right, regardless of how that person justifies himself
or how he feel about his actions.
--
My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.
.
User: "Crazyalec"

Title: Re: And you call this a belief? 20 Nov 2003 04:13:08 PM
Erica <scribe53151nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<scribe53151nospam-DECDA2.01163917112003@newshost1.news.tds.net>...


Whoever said that killing based on religion wasn't also bad? Who is
making this assertion? The person doing the killing?

Well, if its bad, how can it be legal?
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