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"johac" |
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09 Mar 2007 12:09:40 AM |
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Ann Coulter enthusiastic about Domestic Terrorism |
I think this just confirms what everybody knows. He/she/it is nuts.
Many links at site.
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AlterNet
Ann Coulter enthusiastic about Domestic Terrorism
By Bruce Wilson
Posted on March 8, 2007, Printed on March 8, 2007
http://www.alternet.org/bloggers/wilson/48995/
"Reclaiming America For Christ", one bullet at a Time? That seems to be
the message of Ann Coulter's March 3rd. rhetorical salvo fired off at D.
James Kennedy's Reclaiming America for Christ conference hosted in Fort
Lauderdale this year by Kennedy's "Center For Reclaimimg America".
Journalist Frederick Clarkson, who has written extensively on the
violent US antiabortion movement, places Coulter's enthusiasm for the
assassination of abortion clinic workers into historical context in Ann
Coulter Says She Can "Understand" Domestic Terrorism: "In demagogic
fashion, Coulter first presented the shocking view -- and then wink,
wink -- said she didn't really mean it; but in doing so, still held fast
to the argument that leaders of the underground Army of God have used
for years to justify the murder of abortion providers -- which she calls
"a procedure with a rifle." ".
The assassinations and hundreds of bombings and attempted bombings
during the 1990's, after a long period in which the US media and even
the FBI ignored pervasive Antiabortion movement violence, will finally
get portrayed in a new video documentary. But Coulter is only one of
many on the US right who both advocate or encourage terrorism and
indirectly sympathize with violent goals and tactics of terrorist
groups, and rhetoric such as Coulter's helps create a cultural
atmosphere in which intimidation and death threats against plaintiffs in
church/state separation legal cases has become routine in many parts of
the United States. Coulter's eliminationalist rhetoric, further, helps
to mainstream violent religious extremist views to the point that long
time advocates for antiabortion terrorism can become Washington D.C. PR
consultants and special prosecutors for the State of Kansas.
Coulter's public speech fits a piece of larger pattern in which
eliminationalist rhetoric from the American right targets vast societal
groups and leading Christian right cultural warriors advocate, as a
foreign policy approach or "pacification" program, the nuclear
destruction of entire defenseless civilian populations in the Middle
East [see inside].
In a January 2007 appearance on the Colbert Report [for video see PEEK
49601] Dinesh D'Souza, who was on the show to plug his new book blaming
the American "cultural left" for the September 2001 Al Qaeda terrorist
attacks, started off saying that responsibility for 2001 attacks on NYC
and the Pentagon could be attributed "indirectly" to Franklin Delano
Roosevelt [ D'Souza may have been consciously pushing buttons ; top
Christian right leaders such as Tim LaHaye maintain Roosevelt was
installed by Satan as a part of a grand "secular humanist" satanic plot
]. D'Souza, just getting started, then suggested that if the US were to
export "traditional American values", such as reduced tolerance for
gays, which conservative Amercian Christians share with Conservative
Jews and Muslims around the world, that would "undermine Bin Laden's
idea that we're all a bunch of atheists". Colbert followed up : "there
are some good ideas these guys [ Bin Laden, and Al Qaeda ] have, this is
what you're saying, that there are some parts of our culture that are
corrosive and you agree with some of the things that they're saying.....
you have the courage to say that right, that you agree with some of the
things that these radical extremists are against in America ?" When
Colbert pressed for a yes or no answer, D'Souza agreed and his stance
amounts to a refrain on the American Christian right that gets shouted
from innumerable pulpits, broadcast in endless talk radio and
televangelist show segments, and churned out in a seemingly endless
flood of books - that the US has been in a disastrous moral decline
since the early 1960's, allegedly because the Bible was "kicked out of
the classroom" and "God got kicked out of the public square" ; and that
"Bible Believing" Christians must fight a war to retake America "for
Christ" from "liberals and secular humanists". Rhetoric of John Hagee,
Jerry Falwell, Tim LaHaye, and other Christian right leaders is the
language of Jihad and a espouses a vast, barely substantiated
conspiracy, with deep anti-Semitic undertones [ rooted in a common
belief, shared apparently by Bill Donohue of The Catholic League, that
liberal Jews are at the center of the plot ], that "secular humanism" is
a "Godless", "satanic" crypto-socialist plan to undermine American
morality and the collective social fabric and eventually destroy America.
In the end, Dinesh D'Souza may be partly right on one count - despite
vehement protestations to the contrary, violent eliminationalist
fantasies commonly held and espoused on the American Christian right
share a good deal in common with the language of violent religious
extremism around the world, and alleged "moralist" Bill Bennet, former
Secretary Of Education, makes the point with sledgehammer bluntness.
While leaders such as Texas megachurch pastor John Hagee argue for a
preemptive nuclear attack on Iran, to counter an alleged nuclear threat
from that country or to initiate the apocalyptic Mideast conflict that
many Premillenial dispensationalist Christians yearn for because that
will trigger the "Rapture" William Bennet, in a speech given October
2006, dispensed with even the need for allegations of WMD threats : as I
wrote last October, from the "2006 Voter Values Summit" put on the the
Family Research Council, Bill Bennet advocated incinerating entire Iraqi
cities to force submission, by residents of surviving Iraqi urban
centers, on pain of fiery nuclear death.
"Recounting the incident that led to a massive US military assault
on the Iraqi city of Fallujah - and implying that the US response to the
deaths of four American private mercenaries working for Blackwater USA
was somehow mild, Bennet stated: 'When four Americans are hung and the
city cheers, you take out Fallujah. You level the city....' Bennett then
cited the example of the destruction of Hiroshima. Bennett's exhortation
to mass collective punishment, the slaughter of hundreds or
thousands of innocent civilians perhaps or at least the destruction
of their homes and cities, received enthusiastic applause."
Bruce Wilson writes for Talk To Action, a blog specializing in faith and
politics.
---
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/48995/#more
--
John #1782
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: Ann Coulter enthusiastic about Domestic Terrorism |
09 Mar 2007 01:43:57 AM |
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"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-318E97.22094008032007@news.giganews.com...
I think this just confirms what everybody knows. He/she/it is nuts.
Many links at site.
Even the Republicans are turning against her.
And, wonder of wonders, my namesake dissed her.
--
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
When fascism comes to America, it will be
wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross -
Sinclair Lewis
---
AlterNet
Ann Coulter enthusiastic about Domestic Terrorism
By Bruce Wilson
Posted on March 8, 2007, Printed on March 8, 2007
http://www.alternet.org/bloggers/wilson/48995/
"Reclaiming America For Christ", one bullet at a Time? That seems to be
the message of Ann Coulter's March 3rd. rhetorical salvo fired off at D.
James Kennedy's Reclaiming America for Christ conference hosted in Fort
Lauderdale this year by Kennedy's "Center For Reclaimimg America".
Journalist Frederick Clarkson, who has written extensively on the
violent US antiabortion movement, places Coulter's enthusiasm for the
assassination of abortion clinic workers into historical context in Ann
Coulter Says She Can "Understand" Domestic Terrorism: "In demagogic
fashion, Coulter first presented the shocking view -- and then wink,
wink -- said she didn't really mean it; but in doing so, still held fast
to the argument that leaders of the underground Army of God have used
for years to justify the murder of abortion providers -- which she calls
"a procedure with a rifle." ".
The assassinations and hundreds of bombings and attempted bombings
during the 1990's, after a long period in which the US media and even
the FBI ignored pervasive Antiabortion movement violence, will finally
get portrayed in a new video documentary. But Coulter is only one of
many on the US right who both advocate or encourage terrorism and
indirectly sympathize with violent goals and tactics of terrorist
groups, and rhetoric such as Coulter's helps create a cultural
atmosphere in which intimidation and death threats against plaintiffs in
church/state separation legal cases has become routine in many parts of
the United States. Coulter's eliminationalist rhetoric, further, helps
to mainstream violent religious extremist views to the point that long
time advocates for antiabortion terrorism can become Washington D.C. PR
consultants and special prosecutors for the State of Kansas.
Coulter's public speech fits a piece of larger pattern in which
eliminationalist rhetoric from the American right targets vast societal
groups and leading Christian right cultural warriors advocate, as a
foreign policy approach or "pacification" program, the nuclear
destruction of entire defenseless civilian populations in the Middle
East [see inside].
In a January 2007 appearance on the Colbert Report [for video see PEEK
49601] Dinesh D'Souza, who was on the show to plug his new book blaming
the American "cultural left" for the September 2001 Al Qaeda terrorist
attacks, started off saying that responsibility for 2001 attacks on NYC
and the Pentagon could be attributed "indirectly" to Franklin Delano
Roosevelt [ D'Souza may have been consciously pushing buttons ; top
Christian right leaders such as Tim LaHaye maintain Roosevelt was
installed by Satan as a part of a grand "secular humanist" satanic plot
]. D'Souza, just getting started, then suggested that if the US were to
export "traditional American values", such as reduced tolerance for
gays, which conservative Amercian Christians share with Conservative
Jews and Muslims around the world, that would "undermine Bin Laden's
idea that we're all a bunch of atheists". Colbert followed up : "there
are some good ideas these guys [ Bin Laden, and Al Qaeda ] have, this is
what you're saying, that there are some parts of our culture that are
corrosive and you agree with some of the things that they're saying.....
you have the courage to say that right, that you agree with some of the
things that these radical extremists are against in America ?" When
Colbert pressed for a yes or no answer, D'Souza agreed and his stance
amounts to a refrain on the American Christian right that gets shouted
from innumerable pulpits, broadcast in endless talk radio and
televangelist show segments, and churned out in a seemingly endless
flood of books - that the US has been in a disastrous moral decline
since the early 1960's, allegedly because the Bible was "kicked out of
the classroom" and "God got kicked out of the public square" ; and that
"Bible Believing" Christians must fight a war to retake America "for
Christ" from "liberals and secular humanists". Rhetoric of John Hagee,
Jerry Falwell, Tim LaHaye, and other Christian right leaders is the
language of Jihad and a espouses a vast, barely substantiated
conspiracy, with deep anti-Semitic undertones [ rooted in a common
belief, shared apparently by Bill Donohue of The Catholic League, that
liberal Jews are at the center of the plot ], that "secular humanism" is
a "Godless", "satanic" crypto-socialist plan to undermine American
morality and the collective social fabric and eventually destroy America.
In the end, Dinesh D'Souza may be partly right on one count - despite
vehement protestations to the contrary, violent eliminationalist
fantasies commonly held and espoused on the American Christian right
share a good deal in common with the language of violent religious
extremism around the world, and alleged "moralist" Bill Bennet, former
Secretary Of Education, makes the point with sledgehammer bluntness.
While leaders such as Texas megachurch pastor John Hagee argue for a
preemptive nuclear attack on Iran, to counter an alleged nuclear threat
from that country or to initiate the apocalyptic Mideast conflict that
many Premillenial dispensationalist Christians yearn for because that
will trigger the "Rapture" William Bennet, in a speech given October
2006, dispensed with even the need for allegations of WMD threats : as I
wrote last October, from the "2006 Voter Values Summit" put on the the
Family Research Council, Bill Bennet advocated incinerating entire Iraqi
cities to force submission, by residents of surviving Iraqi urban
centers, on pain of fiery nuclear death.
"Recounting the incident that led to a massive US military assault
on the Iraqi city of Fallujah - and implying that the US response to the
deaths of four American private mercenaries working for Blackwater USA
was somehow mild, Bennet stated: 'When four Americans are hung and the
city cheers, you take out Fallujah. You level the city....' Bennett then
cited the example of the destruction of Hiroshima. Bennett's exhortation
to mass collective punishment, the slaughter of hundreds or
thousands of innocent civilians perhaps or at least the destruction
of their homes and cities, received enthusiastic applause."
Bruce Wilson writes for Talk To Action, a blog specializing in faith and
politics.
---
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/48995/#more
--
John #1782
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Ann Coulter enthusiastic about Domestic Terrorism |
10 Mar 2007 02:16:38 AM |
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In article <MP2dnXFtg9mqjWzYnZ2dnUVZ_rSjnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-318E97.22094008032007@news.giganews.com...
I think this just confirms what everybody knows. He/she/it is nuts.
Many links at site.
Even the Republicans are turning against her.
And, wonder of wonders, my namesake dissed her.
Yes that is great. There is enough nastiness to go around without her
hateful spewing.
Newspapers are dropping her column left and right.
--
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
When fascism comes to America, it will be
wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross -
Sinclair Lewis
---
AlterNet
Ann Coulter enthusiastic about Domestic Terrorism
By Bruce Wilson
Posted on March 8, 2007, Printed on March 8, 2007
http://www.alternet.org/bloggers/wilson/48995/
--
John #1782
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| User: "chibiabos" |
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| Title: Re: Ann Coulter enthusiastic about Domestic Terrorism |
09 Mar 2007 12:00:55 PM |
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In article <MP2dnXFtg9mqjWzYnZ2dnUVZ_rSjnZ2d@comcast.com>, Michelle
Malkin <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-318E97.22094008032007@news.giganews.com...
I think this just confirms what everybody knows. He/she/it is nuts.
Many links at site.
Even the Republicans are turning against her.
And, wonder of wonders, my namesake dissed her.
Your namesake wants to BE her. Badly. But just can't seem to rise to
the same level of vitriol.
-chib
--
Member of SMASH
Sarcastic Middle-Aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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09 Mar 2007 06:53:51 AM |
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On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:09:40 -0800, johac wrote:
In a January 2007 appearance on the Colbert Report [for video see PEEK
49601] Dinesh D'Souza, who was on the show to plug his new book blaming
the American "cultural left" for the September 2001 Al Qaeda terrorist
attacks, started off saying that responsibility for 2001 attacks on NYC
and the Pentagon could be attributed "indirectly" to Franklin Delano
Roosevelt [ D'Souza may have been consciously pushing buttons ; top
Christian right leaders such as Tim LaHaye maintain Roosevelt was
installed by Satan as a part of a grand "secular humanist" satanic plot
]. D'Souza, just getting started, then suggested that if the US were to
export "traditional American values", such as reduced tolerance for
gays, which conservative Amercian Christians share with Conservative
Jews and Muslims around the world, that would "undermine Bin Laden's
idea that we're all a bunch of atheists". Colbert followed up : "there
are some good ideas these guys [ Bin Laden, and Al Qaeda ] have, this is
what you're saying, that there are some parts of our culture that are
corrosive and you agree with some of the things that they're saying.....
you have the courage to say that right, that you agree with some of the
things that these radical extremists are against in America ?" When
Colbert pressed for a yes or no answer, D'Souza agreed
That was one of Colbert's finest moments. He exposed one of the underlying
truths of the neocons...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Ann Coulter enthusiastic about Domestic Terrorism |
10 Mar 2007 02:01:12 AM |
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In article <pan.2007.03.09.12.53.50.572340@com.mkbilbo>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:09:40 -0800, johac wrote:
In a January 2007 appearance on the Colbert Report [for video see PEEK
49601] Dinesh D'Souza, who was on the show to plug his new book blaming
the American "cultural left" for the September 2001 Al Qaeda terrorist
attacks, started off saying that responsibility for 2001 attacks on NYC
and the Pentagon could be attributed "indirectly" to Franklin Delano
Roosevelt [ D'Souza may have been consciously pushing buttons ; top
Christian right leaders such as Tim LaHaye maintain Roosevelt was
installed by Satan as a part of a grand "secular humanist" satanic plot
]. D'Souza, just getting started, then suggested that if the US were to
export "traditional American values", such as reduced tolerance for
gays, which conservative Amercian Christians share with Conservative
Jews and Muslims around the world, that would "undermine Bin Laden's
idea that we're all a bunch of atheists". Colbert followed up : "there
are some good ideas these guys [ Bin Laden, and Al Qaeda ] have, this is
what you're saying, that there are some parts of our culture that are
corrosive and you agree with some of the things that they're saying.....
you have the courage to say that right, that you agree with some of the
things that these radical extremists are against in America ?" When
Colbert pressed for a yes or no answer, D'Souza agreed
That was one of Colbert's finest moments. He exposed one of the underlying
truths of the neocons...
Yes it was.
--
John #1782
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