Religions > Atheism > Another anti-gay marriage bill passes by over 75% of the vote.
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"Randy Jabsco" |
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12 Dec 2003 03:02:24 PM |
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Another anti-gay marriage bill passes by over 75% of the vote. |
Hey, I thought you faggots said that people were "accepting" you now.
What's this all about? I thought you faggots said that "ignorance to old
beliefs are making way". Come on faggots, explain this... I don't
understand. If people love faggots so much, why would over two-thirds vote
otherwise? Why is there currently 38 states with anti-gay marriage laws,
all properly voted for by the public? I am having troubles understanding
why the only way faggots can appear to be accepted is by finding a
sympathetic judge to scratch out laws for them. Can't you get the
"accepting" public to vote for them for you? Why isn't it that the faggots
aren't putting these issues on the ballets rather than taking it to
sympathetic judges and congress men?
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Ohio House passes anti-gay marriage bill
COLUMBUS -- Gay marriage would be banned and state employees could not
obtain health insurance and other benefits for unmarried partners under a
bill passed by the Ohio House on Wednesday.
The measure, approved by a 73-23 vote, would recognize marriage as a union
"between one man and one woman" and declare that extending benefits for
unmarried partners to state employees, whether of the same or opposite sex,
is against state policy.
Supporters of the measure point toward the possibility of other states
approving homosexual unions as the impetus for Ohio to set its own standards
for marriage.
The Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court last month declared that state's
gay marriage ban unconstitutional and ordered lawmakers to extend the legal
benefits of marriage to domestic partners.
But opponents called the bill discrimination.
House minority leader Rep. Chris Redfern, D-Catawba Island, said committee
hearings on the bill were filled with "hate filled language and bigoted
comments" about homosexuals.
"I cannot allow myself to be aligned with that," he said. "I have respect
for my fellow members ... but I don't want them to be the morality police."
Redfern added that considering society's 50-percent divorce rate, it's hard
to argue that the issue is about upholding the sanctity of marriage.
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| User: "curtsybear" |
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19 Dec 2003 09:44:36 AM |
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In alt.politics.homosexuality Rhinehold <noneya@business.com> wrote:
Huh, somehow I missed the original reponse to me.
Just a point, Bill...
*I'm not gay*. I am a supporter of human rights, a taoist and a
libertarian. These things you can apply to me in further posts. However,
applying to me that I am a homosexual is to be ignorant of the person you
are attacking, something you should really avoid doing if you don't want to
appear to be an idiot.
You must've missed most of Bill Taylor's posts, if you think he cares
one whit about proving himself to be the idiot he truly is.
--
Curtis at Sieber dot Com
"Come out to our church and let us do an exorcism on your devil possessed
butt! And send me a picture too so I can see if anybody really flirts
with you." -- Lurlean Tucker plans to corner the market for combination
proctology-exorcism-dating-service supermarts
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Gays get another "***** SLAP." This time in in Ohio. |
17 Dec 2003 11:09:30 AM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Wed, 17 Dec 2003 05:06:37 GMT, a stranger
called by some Wild Bill Taylor came forth and told this tale in
alt.atheism
Knowing that homosexual Marriage will NEVER happen in the US ,
I seem to recall hearing this about segregation. Odd, that
prediction failed as well.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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17 Dec 2003 08:00:54 AM |
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On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 05:06:37 GMT, Wild Bill Taylor wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 00:57:11 GMT, Ward Stewart
<wstewart@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
IF the word sticks in your craw, the matter is simple -- either make
"domestic partnership" PRECISELY and EXACTLY equal -- OR change the
name of church marriages to "Holy Matrimony."
Ah1 The old "cruiser" is right on the edge of ADMITTING DEFEAT!
Knowing that homosexual Marriage will NEVER happen in the US ,
he'll accept "domestic partnership." He knows, however, that it will
always sound like nothing more than two maids going in to business
together! <SNIGGER>
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We HAVE earned a status as worthy as Liza Minelli or the Gabor whores.
-ward (Re; Him and his bride "George")
WEIRD Bill -- your bigoted comments, above, are NOW archived in
Google -- permanently -- in THIS post. COUNT on this happening with
regularity, coward.
For as long as Google exists, everyone can thus be REMINDED of just
HOW utterly hateful and idiotic losers like you and your ilk really are!
-- Craig Chilton
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| User: "Bob" |
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16 Dec 2003 08:06:17 PM |
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Ward Stewart wrote:
PERFECTLY simple, painless too. This is how marriages are performed
in Canada and France and lots of other places for all I know.
One obtains a "Marriage Liscense" from a government registrar and it
is then acted on by. in Canada by the equivalent of a "notary public"
who asks if one is otherwise married, old enough to give consent and
are the people of the names on the document and willing to take on the
responsibilities of marriage. That's that! and he issues the Wedding
Certificate.
In the US most States have subdivisions called "Counties" and each
County has a "Clerk." Marriage licenses and certificates are issued by
the County Clerk. There is some state by state variation.
IF one wishes to be married at the shore, or in a park, in a church of
synagogue or even, if that should be your hideous wish, by an Elvis
Impersonator that is YOUR FREE CHOICE .
In most parts of the US you have to have a Justice of the Peace, (lower
court judge) or religious Priest, etc. of whatever religion you like. In
my state the qualifications for the "Priest" are whomever the couple
recognizes as such.
In our Canadian marriage our amiable "Marriage Certifier" met with us
in our hotel suite in Victoria and the matter was concluded in ten
minutes including a glass of good champagne around the room for us and
our friends, witnesses.
In the US you sign documents at the wedding and then generally have to
take the signed document back to the County Clerk and get it recorded
and stamped.
IF the word sticks in your craw, the matter is simple -- either make
"domestic partnership" PRECISELY and EXACTLY equal -- OR change the
name of church marriages to "Holy Matrimony."
Canada does have so many problems with laws and focus on their real
needs. By creating a "domestic partnership" equal to marriage they have
concurrently obliterated anything special or important about marriage,
and thus taken away all government support of marriage, families, and
children. It's really sad, and a shame that Canada is so screwed up in
so many ways. We often hear from Canadian men over the arrogance and
abuse of their hopeless leaderless government.
Bob
ward
Brooks, would seem to have finally figured out what it is that is
going on -- pleased at this I am removing him from my twit filter and
will read his future postings.
ward
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16 Dec 2003 11:01:45 AM |
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Brooks Gregory wrote:
"blewyn" <blewyn@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:1f63b835.0312160719.778f2450@posting.google.com...
Bob <boby23456@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<3FDE5133.5020800@hotmail.com>...
Al wrote:
On 13 Dec 2003 07:21:07 GMT, Phylter <Phylter@freeway.com> wrote:
Homosexuals , though want to reverse the structure
and have a small , minuscule and sexually perverted subculture telling
the majority how they must live.
Wrong. Homosexuals want to tell the majority that they want the same
PRIVATE freedoms as the majority. NO-ONE is telling the majority how
they must live
Indeed. A Republic needs to protect minorities, but it need not allow
minorities dictate or destroy the institutions of the majority.
Indeed. Is allowing civil union between gays for the purposes of
equal freedom a destruction of the institutions of the US ? I thought
the US stood for freedom....
Blewyn
gained a whole new perspective on marriage over the weekend. I served as
one of 20 youth sponsors at a church youth discussion on current events. The
subject of gay marriage was one of the hottest topics and the general
attitude of these young adults was this.
"Who cares whether or not gays can or can not marry. That is a government
argument over whether or not to grant a license to do something. We do not
need a license to be married in the eyes of God and many of us will not seek
a license from the government. Our church will marry us, our church will
accept and sanction our marriage and stand behind us. That is all that
matters in marriage. If the people of this country want separation of church
and state, let it begin with our being married in the eyes of God, and the
state can play all the games they wish with licenses for anything they wish.
We do not have to play."
I find this attitude most refreshing. It almost makes me want to organize a
protest march to the capital whereupon arrival we burn our marriage
licenses.
Its shocking that rump riding is being taught to children in church groups.
Bob
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| User: "Ward Stewart" |
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16 Dec 2003 06:02:20 PM |
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On 16 Dec 2003 07:19:02 -0800, (blewyn) wrote:
Bob <boby23456@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3FDE5133.5020800@hotmail.com>...
Al wrote:
On 13 Dec 2003 07:21:07 GMT, Phylter <Phylter@freeway.com> wrote:
Homosexuals , though want to reverse the structure
and have a small , minuscule and sexually perverted subculture telling
the majority how they must live.
Wrong. Homosexuals want to tell the majority that they want the same
PRIVATE freedoms as the majority. NO-ONE is telling the majority how
they must live
Indeed. A Republic needs to protect minorities, but it need not allow
minorities dictate or destroy the institutions of the majority.
Indeed. Is allowing civil union between gays for the purposes of
equal freedom a destruction of the institutions of the US ? I thought
the US stood for freedom....
Blewyn
Indeed, it is supposed to!
I pledge allegiance to the flag
and to the republic for which it stands
One nation indivisible
with LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
One wonders which of these words is so difficult that these pitiful
folks cannot understand them?
ward
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It is ironic that in the early part of the nineteenth
century my New England family was engaged in the theft
of property and the smuggling of this property into
Canada. When the property was delivered it was
discovered that the property was human beings, Canada
recognized this humanity and set them free.
Now, a century and a half later, George and I are forced
to travel to Canada where we too are recognized as
full human beings and permitted to marry. It is a
sadness that the country we love, the country of our
birth refuses to recognize that we are human beings
and citizens and entitled to the human rights and civil
rights supposedly our birthright. That despite our
calling ourselves "The Land of the Free" and despite
the many promises in the founding documents offering
EQUALITY for ALL.
ward
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| User: "Wild Bill Taylor" |
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16 Dec 2003 06:55:05 PM |
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On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 00:02:20 GMT, Ward Stewart
<wstewart@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
On 16 Dec 2003 07:19:02 -0800, (blewyn) wrote:
Bob <boby23456@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3FDE5133.5020800@hotmail.com>...
Al wrote:
On 13 Dec 2003 07:21:07 GMT, Phylter <Phylter@freeway.com> wrote:
Homosexuals , though want to reverse the structure
and have a small , minuscule and sexually perverted subculture telling
the majority how they must live.
Wrong. Homosexuals want to tell the majority that they want the same
PRIVATE freedoms as the majority. NO-ONE is telling the majority how
they must live
Indeed. A Republic needs to protect minorities, but it need not allow
minorities dictate or destroy the institutions of the majority.
Indeed. Is allowing civil union between gays for the purposes of
equal freedom a destruction of the institutions of the US ? I thought
the US stood for freedom....
Blewyn
Indeed, it is supposed to!
I pledge allegiance to the flag
and to the republic for which it stands
One nation indivisible
with LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
You are just as free as i am under US law to marry the person of
your choice. Be careful though - Mooseville would consider you a
bigamist
One wonders which of these words is so difficult that these pitiful
folks cannot understand them?
You homos of course being the whiny and "not so pitiful" folks, of
course.. Huh, Cruiser.
Are you still referred to in Homolulu as the Waikiki Cruiser?
ward
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It is ironic that in the early part of the nineteenth
century my New England family was engaged in the theft
of property and the smuggling of this property into
Canada. When the property was delivered it was
discovered that the property was human beings, Canada
recognized this humanity and set them free.
Now, a century and a half later, George and I are forced
to travel to Canada where we too are recognized as
full human beings and permitted to marry. It is a
sadness that the country we love, the country of our
birth refuses to recognize that we are human beings
and citizens and entitled to the human rights and civil
rights supposedly our birthright. That despite our
calling ourselves "The Land of the Free" and despite
the many promises in the founding documents offering
EQUALITY for ALL.
ward
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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17 Dec 2003 08:01:39 AM |
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On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 00:55:05 GMT, Wild Bill Taylor wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 00:02:20 GMT, Ward Stewart
<wstewart@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
On 16 Dec 2003 07:19:02 -0800, (blewyn) wrote:
Bob <boby23456@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3FDE5133.5020800@hotmail.com>...
Al wrote:
On 13 Dec 2003 07:21:07 GMT, Phylter <Phylter@freeway.com> wrote:
Homosexuals , though want to reverse the structure
and have a small , minuscule and sexually perverted subculture telling
the majority how they must live.
Wrong. Homosexuals want to tell the majority that they want the same
PRIVATE freedoms as the majority. NO-ONE is telling the majority how
they must live
Indeed. A Republic needs to protect minorities, but it need not allow
minorities dictate or destroy the institutions of the majority.
Indeed. Is allowing civil union between gays for the purposes of
equal freedom a destruction of the institutions of the US ? I thought
the US stood for freedom....
Blewyn
Indeed, it is supposed to!
I pledge allegiance to the flag
and to the republic for which it stands
One nation indivisible
with LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
You are just as free as i am under US law to marry the person of
your choice. Be careful though - Mooseville would consider you a
bigamist
One wonders which of these words is so difficult that these pitiful
folks cannot understand them?
You homos of course being the whiny and "not so pitiful" folks, of
course.. Huh, Cruiser.
Are you still referred to in Homolulu as the Waikiki Cruiser?
WEIRD Bill -- your bigoted comments, above, are NOW archived in
Google -- permanently -- in THIS post. COUNT on this happening with
regularity, coward.
For as long as Google exists, everyone can thus be REMINDED of just
HOW utterly hateful and idiotic losers like you and your ilk really are!
ward
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It is ironic that in the early part of the nineteenth
century my New England family was engaged in the theft
of property and the smuggling of this property into
Canada. When the property was delivered it was
discovered that the property was human beings, Canada
recognized this humanity and set them free.
Now, a century and a half later, George and I are forced
to travel to Canada where we too are recognized as
full human beings and permitted to marry. It is a
sadness that the country we love, the country of our
birth refuses to recognize that we are human beings
and citizens and entitled to the human rights and civil
rights supposedly our birthright. That despite our
calling ourselves "The Land of the Free" and despite
the many promises in the founding documents offering
EQUALITY for ALL.
ward
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-- Craig Chilton
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| User: "Bob" |
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16 Dec 2003 08:07:43 PM |
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Ward Stewart wrote:
Indeed, it is supposed to!
I pledge allegiance to the flag
and to the republic for which it stands
One nation indivisible
with LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
One wonders which of these words is so difficult that these pitiful
folks cannot understand them?
ward
Yep, its a wonder how you got so screwed up that you refuse to
comprehend even the most simple and age old concept.
Nobody is so blind as he who will not see.
Bob
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| User: "Rhinehold" |
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14 Dec 2003 03:05:05 AM |
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How are they telling you how YOU must live?
<Al Ongapo> wrote in message
news:bbd31866386abfaa1605cf7727090357@news.teranews.com...
On 13 Dec 2003 07:21:07 GMT, Phylter <Phylter@freeway.com> wrote:
Al Ongapo astounded us with: news:6dc8b1930f18bcb6e434a0fbf3f16229
@news.teranews.com:
Ohio House passes anti-gay marriage bill
COLUMBUS -- Gay marriage would be banned and state employees could not
obtain health insurance and other benefits for unmarried partners
under a bill passed by the Ohio House on Wednesday.
The measure, approved by a 73-23 vote, would recognize marriage as a
union "between one man and one woman" and declare that extending
benefits for unmarried partners to state employees, whether of the
same or opposite sex, is against state policy.
Supporters of the measure point toward the possibility of other states
approving homosexual unions as the impetus for Ohio to set its own
standards for marriage.
The Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court last month declared that
state's gay marriage ban unconstitutional and ordered lawmakers to
extend the legal benefits of marriage to domestic partners.
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Only a few more states to go before we hit 100 percent straight up!
Better read up on fascism, fascist....
I like the title "Republic" better -- you know like, "majority rule",
make the laws that are best for your society and live by them.
Yes, with few exceptions the majority does get to decide which laws
are best for it. Homosexuals , though want to reverse the structure
and have a small , minuscule and sexually perverted subculture telling
the majority how they must live. NaaaaaH! That's not going to
happen...
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| User: "lorez" |
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13 Dec 2003 06:23:33 PM |
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In article <bbd31866386abfaa1605cf7727090357@news.teranews.com>,
Al Ongapo wrote:
On 13 Dec 2003 07:21:07 GMT, Phylter <Phylter@freeway.com> wrote:
Al Ongapo astounded us with: news:6dc8b1930f18bcb6e434a0fbf3f16229
@news.teranews.com:
Ohio House passes anti-gay marriage bill
COLUMBUS -- Gay marriage would be banned and state employees could not
obtain health insurance and other benefits for unmarried partners
under a bill passed by the Ohio House on Wednesday.
The measure, approved by a 73-23 vote, would recognize marriage as a
union "between one man and one woman" and declare that extending
benefits for unmarried partners to state employees, whether of the
same or opposite sex, is against state policy.
Supporters of the measure point toward the possibility of other states
approving homosexual unions as the impetus for Ohio to set its own
standards for marriage.
The Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court last month declared that
state's gay marriage ban unconstitutional and ordered lawmakers to
extend the legal benefits of marriage to domestic partners.
++++
Only a few more states to go before we hit 100 percent straight up!
Better read up on fascism, fascist....
I like the title "Republic" better -- you know like, "majority rule",
make the laws that are best for your society and live by them.
Yes, with few exceptions the majority does get to decide which laws
are best for it. Homosexuals , though want to reverse the structure
and have a small , minuscule and sexually perverted subculture telling
the majority how they must live. NaaaaaH! That's not going to
happen...
heheheh. That's pretty stupid. Gays don't care how *you* live. Why
should you care how they live?
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| User: "Ward Stewart" |
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14 Dec 2003 03:37:17 AM |
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On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:23:33 -0500, lorez <not@real.com> wrote:
In article <bbd31866386abfaa1605cf7727090357@news.teranews.com>,
Al Ongapo wrote:
On 13 Dec 2003 07:21:07 GMT, Phylter <Phylter@freeway.com> wrote:
Al Ongapo astounded us with: news:6dc8b1930f18bcb6e434a0fbf3f16229
@news.teranews.com:
Ohio House passes anti-gay marriage bill
COLUMBUS -- Gay marriage would be banned and state employees could not
obtain health insurance and other benefits for unmarried partners
under a bill passed by the Ohio House on Wednesday.
The measure, approved by a 73-23 vote, would recognize marriage as a
union "between one man and one woman" and declare that extending
benefits for unmarried partners to state employees, whether of the
same or opposite sex, is against state policy.
Supporters of the measure point toward the possibility of other states
approving homosexual unions as the impetus for Ohio to set its own
standards for marriage.
The Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court last month declared that
state's gay marriage ban unconstitutional and ordered lawmakers to
extend the legal benefits of marriage to domestic partners.
++++
Only a few more states to go before we hit 100 percent straight up!
Better read up on fascism, fascist....
I like the title "Republic" better -- you know like, "majority rule",
make the laws that are best for your society and live by them.
Yes, with few exceptions the majority does get to decide which laws
are best for it. Homosexuals , though want to reverse the structure
and have a small , minuscule and sexually perverted subculture telling
the majority how they must live. NaaaaaH! That's not going to
happen...
heheheh. That's pretty stupid. Gays don't care how *you* live. Why
should you care how they live?
Clearly he does not understand -- hell, he does not even know what a
republic is. A waste of time!
ward
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Ward and George
48 years together
and yet
Strangers before the law.
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| User: "Rhinehold" |
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14 Dec 2003 04:40:41 AM |
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Clearly you don't understand the US Constitution, specifically the 14th
amendment.
Or that the US is a Representative Republic....
Rhinehold
"Ward Stewart" <wstewart@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:qteptv8r0a3sgv8j0g4npeg34buquepkf7@4ax.com...
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:23:33 -0500, lorez <not@real.com> wrote:
In article <bbd31866386abfaa1605cf7727090357@news.teranews.com>,
Al Ongapo wrote:
On 13 Dec 2003 07:21:07 GMT, Phylter <Phylter@freeway.com> wrote:
Al Ongapo astounded us with: news:6dc8b1930f18bcb6e434a0fbf3f16229
@news.teranews.com:
Ohio House passes anti-gay marriage bill
COLUMBUS -- Gay marriage would be banned and state employees could
not
obtain health insurance and other benefits for unmarried partners
under a bill passed by the Ohio House on Wednesday.
The measure, approved by a 73-23 vote, would recognize marriage as a
union "between one man and one woman" and declare that extending
benefits for unmarried partners to state employees, whether of the
same or opposite sex, is against state policy.
Supporters of the measure point toward the possibility of other
states
approving homosexual unions as the impetus for Ohio to set its own
standards for marriage.
The Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court last month declared that
state's gay marriage ban unconstitutional and ordered lawmakers to
extend the legal benefits of marriage to domestic partners.
++++
Only a few more states to go before we hit 100 percent straight up!
Better read up on fascism, fascist....
I like the title "Republic" better -- you know like, "majority rule",
make the laws that are best for your society and live by them.
Yes, with few exceptions the majority does get to decide which laws
are best for it. Homosexuals , though want to reverse the structure
and have a small , minuscule and sexually perverted subculture telling
the majority how they must live. NaaaaaH! That's not going to
happen...
heheheh. That's pretty stupid. Gays don't care how *you* live. Why
should you care how they live?
Clearly he does not understand -- hell, he does not even know what a
republic is. A waste of time!
ward
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Ward and George
48 years together
and yet
Strangers before the law.
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| User: "Al Ongapo" |
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13 Dec 2003 06:31:11 PM |
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On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:23:33 -0500, lorez <not@real.com> wrote:
In article <bbd31866386abfaa1605cf7727090357@news.teranews.com>,
Al Ongapo wrote:
On 13 Dec 2003 07:21:07 GMT, Phylter <Phylter@freeway.com> wrote:
Al Ongapo astounded us with: news:6dc8b1930f18bcb6e434a0fbf3f16229
@news.teranews.com:
Ohio House passes anti-gay marriage bill
COLUMBUS -- Gay marriage would be banned and state employees could not
obtain health insurance and other benefits for unmarried partners
under a bill passed by the Ohio House on Wednesday.
The measure, approved by a 73-23 vote, would recognize marriage as a
union "between one man and one woman" and declare that extending
benefits for unmarried partners to state employees, whether of the
same or opposite sex, is against state policy.
Supporters of the measure point toward the possibility of other states
approving homosexual unions as the impetus for Ohio to set its own
standards for marriage.
The Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court last month declared that
state's gay marriage ban unconstitutional and ordered lawmakers to
extend the legal benefits of marriage to domestic partners.
++++
Only a few more states to go before we hit 100 percent straight up!
Better read up on fascism, fascist....
I like the title "Republic" better -- you know like, "majority rule",
make the laws that are best for your society and live by them.
Yes, with few exceptions the majority does get to decide which laws
are best for it. Homosexuals , though want to reverse the structure
and have a small , minuscule and sexually perverted subculture telling
the majority how they must live. NaaaaaH! That's not going to
happen...
heheheh. That's pretty stupid. Gays don't care how *you* live. Why
should you care how they live?
The homosexuals keep telling us, the majority, that we must change
our marriage laws to align with their perverted sexual BEHAVIOR. We
find the current marriage laws in our society to be satisfactory the
way they are. They suit our society quite well and are in line with
those of 99.9% of the societies in the rest of the world, As I said,
homos will do just fine as long as they don't try to tell the majority
that we are not living right. That tends to ***** us off then we get
mean.
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13 Dec 2003 07:04:52 PM |
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<Al Ongapo> wrote in message news:a3539308f8149615dcc16c58a87aa86d@news.teranews.com...
The homosexuals keep telling us, the majority, that we must change
our marriage laws to align with their perverted sexual BEHAVIOR. We
find the current marriage laws in our society to be satisfactory the
way they are. They suit our society quite well and are in line with
those of 99.9% of the societies in the rest of the world, As I said,
homos will do just fine as long as they don't try to tell the majority
that we are not living right. That tends to ***** us off then we get
mean.
Anyone who thinks homosexuality is a chosen behavior
doesn't know or isn't willing to learn the facts.
In 1996 Barney Frank stood before the U.S. House and
asked, "How does the fact that I love another man, and live
in a committed relationship with him, threaten your marriage?"
And in almost eight years no one has provided a legally
defensible answer. That's why courts have affirmed and will
continue to affirm same-sex couples' right to marriage and/or
civil unions, and with a single ruling by the SCOTUS all state
DOMA laws will be overturned, exactly as happened with
Texas' sodomy law.
Same-sex unions are now recognized in Canada, Denmark,
Finland, the Netherlands, etc. Every year more and more
countries will recognize them, until it reaches a point where
U.S. denial of recognition will be either hugely impractical
or completely irrelevant. So it's not a matter of if same-sex
unions are recognized, only when.
Rick
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13 Dec 2003 07:56:05 PM |
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On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:04:52 -0800, "Rick" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
<Al Ongapo> wrote in message news:a3539308f8149615dcc16c58a87aa86d@news.teranews.com...
The homosexuals keep telling us, the majority, that we must change
our marriage laws to align with their perverted sexual BEHAVIOR. We
find the current marriage laws in our society to be satisfactory the
way they are. They suit our society quite well and are in line with
those of 99.9% of the societies in the rest of the world, As I said,
homos will do just fine as long as they don't try to tell the majority
that we are not living right. That tends to ***** us off then we get
mean.
Anyone who thinks homosexuality is a chosen behavior
doesn't know or isn't willing to learn the facts.
In 1996 Barney Frank stood before the U.S. House and
asked, "How does the fact that I love another man, and live
in a committed relationship with him, threaten your marriage?"
This was just after he had been cinctured by that body for running a
queer whorehouse out of his Washington apartment, wasn't it...
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13 Dec 2003 09:02:26 PM |
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Al wrote:
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:04:52 -0800, "Rick" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
<Al Ongapo> wrote in message news:a3539308f8149615dcc16c58a87aa86d@news.teranews.com...
The homosexuals keep telling us, the majority, that we must change
our marriage laws to align with their perverted sexual BEHAVIOR. We
find the current marriage laws in our society to be satisfactory the
way they are. They suit our society quite well and are in line with
those of 99.9% of the societies in the rest of the world, As I said,
homos will do just fine as long as they don't try to tell the majority
that we are not living right. That tends to ***** us off then we get
mean.
Anyone who thinks homosexuality is a chosen behavior
doesn't know or isn't willing to learn the facts.
In 1996 Barney Frank stood before the U.S. House and
asked, "How does the fact that I love another man, and live
in a committed relationship with him, threaten your marriage?"
This was just after he had been cinctured by that body for running a
queer whorehouse out of his Washington apartment, wasn't it...
Here's what Frank has been up to lately, pushing the gay agenda and
attacking traditions.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/8/7/202522.shtml
"Buoyed by a "growing level of success at the U.N." and a seemingly
decisive international cultural shift, gay rights advocates met to
discuss a multi-pronged strategy, including attacks on traditional
morality and Christianity, that they believe will advance the complete
gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender agenda."
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14 Dec 2003 03:14:16 AM |
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"Bob" <boby23456@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3FDBD2C2.1020808@hotmail.com...
Here's what Frank has been up to lately, pushing the gay agenda and
attacking traditions.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/8/7/202522.shtml
"Buoyed by a "growing level of success at the U.N." and a seemingly
decisive international cultural shift, gay rights advocates met to
discuss a multi-pronged strategy, including attacks on traditional
morality and Christianity, that they believe will advance the complete
gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender agenda."
"Gay agenda": Equal protection of the laws as guaranteed by
the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
Rick
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13 Dec 2003 09:00:45 PM |
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Al wrote:
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:04:52 -0800, "Rick" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
<Al Ongapo> wrote in message news:a3539308f8149615dcc16c58a87aa86d@news.teranews.com...
The homosexuals keep telling us, the majority, that we must change
our marriage laws to align with their perverted sexual BEHAVIOR. We
find the current marriage laws in our society to be satisfactory the
way they are. They suit our society quite well and are in line with
those of 99.9% of the societies in the rest of the world, As I said,
homos will do just fine as long as they don't try to tell the majority
that we are not living right. That tends to ***** us off then we get
mean.
Anyone who thinks homosexuality is a chosen behavior
doesn't know or isn't willing to learn the facts.
In 1996 Barney Frank stood before the U.S. House and
asked, "How does the fact that I love another man, and live
in a committed relationship with him, threaten your marriage?"
This was just after he had been cinctured by that body for running a
queer whorehouse out of his Washington apartment, wasn't it...
Shhhhhh! You're not supposed to remember.
Bob
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14 Dec 2003 11:18:45 PM |
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On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 01:56:05 GMT, Al Ongapo posted in alt.atheism:
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:04:52 -0800, "Rick" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
In 1996 Barney Frank stood before the U.S. House and
asked, "How does the fact that I love another man, and live
in a committed relationship with him, threaten your marriage?"
This was just after he had been cinctured by that body for running a
queer whorehouse out of his Washington apartment, wasn't it...
Why not just admit that you can't answer the question? The ad hom
just made you look like an idiot.
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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of
themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts."
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15 Dec 2003 11:17:45 AM |
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 05:18:45 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 01:56:05 GMT, Al Ongapo posted in alt.atheism:
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:04:52 -0800, "Rick" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
In 1996 Barney Frank stood before the U.S. House and
asked, "How does the fact that I love another man, and live
in a committed relationship with him, threaten your marriage?"
This was just after he had been cinctured by that body for running a
queer whorehouse out of his Washington apartment, wasn't it...
Why not just admit that you can't answer the question? The ad hom
just made you look like an idiot.
I wasn't there when the alleged question was asked and I have no
intention of taking your word for it because you're a homophile.
I do know for a fact (as do you) though that he was cinctured for
running a queer whorehouse out of his Washington apartment,
So much for the "man's" character.
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13 Dec 2003 08:30:40 PM |
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Rick wrote:
Anyone who thinks homosexuality is a chosen behavior
doesn't know or isn't willing to learn the facts.
We already today had one of the rump riders explain to us how rump
riders and lolly lickers have children from heterosexual marriages.
Unless they were **forced** into those marriages they were a choice. It
was also a choice to leave those marriages.
Your premise fails.
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15 Dec 2003 12:48:50 AM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:30:40 -0700, Bob <boby23456@hotmail.com> posted
in alt.atheism:
We already today had one of the rump riders explain to us how rump
riders and lolly lickers
So terrified that you can't even type the word "homosexuals". What's
the matter, Boob, afraid that typing it will force you to realize that
you are one, and are the son of one?
Oh, stop, Al. Boob's just _soooo_ cute when he gets hysterical like that.
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13 Dec 2003 07:22:48 PM |
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Al wrote:
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:23:33 -0500, lorez <not@real.com> wrote:
In article <bbd31866386abfaa1605cf7727090357@news.teranews.com>,
Al Ongapo wrote:
On 13 Dec 2003 07:21:07 GMT, Phylter <Phylter@freeway.com> wrote:
Al Ongapo astounded us with: news:6dc8b1930f18bcb6e434a0fbf3f16229
@news.teranews.com:
Ohio House passes anti-gay marriage bill
COLUMBUS -- Gay marriage would be banned and state employees could not
obtain health insurance and other benefits for unmarried partners
under a bill passed by the Ohio House on Wednesday.
The measure, approved by a 73-23 vote, would recognize marriage as a
union "between one man and one woman" and declare that extending
benefits for unmarried partners to state employees, whether of the
same or opposite sex, is against state policy.
Supporters of the measure point toward the possibility of other states
approving homosexual unions as the impetus for Ohio to set its own
standards for marriage.
The Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court last month declared that
state's gay marriage ban unconstitutional and ordered lawmakers to
extend the legal benefits of marriage to domestic partners.
++++
Only a few more states to go before we hit 100 percent straight up!
Better read up on fascism, fascist....
I like the title "Republic" better -- you know like, "majority rule",
make the laws that are best for your society and live by them.
Yes, with few exceptions the majority does get to decide which laws
are best for it. Homosexuals , though want to reverse the structure
and have a small , minuscule and sexually perverted subculture telling
the majority how they must live. NaaaaaH! That's not going to
happen...
heheheh. That's pretty stupid. Gays don't care how *you* live. Why
should you care how they live?
The homosexuals keep telling us, the majority, that we must change
our marriage laws to align with their perverted sexual BEHAVIOR. We
find the current marriage laws in our society to be satisfactory the
way they are. They suit our society quite well and are in line with
those of 99.9% of the societies in the rest of the world, As I said,
homos will do just fine as long as they don't try to tell the majority
that we are not living right. That tends to ***** us off then we get
mean.
Yep. The institution of marriage has been around as long as humans as a
species. Now the sordid perverts are demanding that it be done away
with. Well, it's doubtful if the majority of people will let them cram
their agenda up everyone else's *****.
The sad thing for the rump riders is that the more they ***** people off
the more likely they are to create animosity agaisnt themselves.
Eventually the public will stop their nonsense, and the more
"successful" they have been the worse it will be for them. Just my
observation.
Bob
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13 Dec 2003 07:28:04 PM |
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"Bob" <boby23456@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3FDBBB68.9060900@hotmail.com...
Yep. The institution of marriage has been around as long as humans as a
species. Now the sordid perverts are demanding that it be done away
with.
Done away with?
What a troll.
Rick
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| User: "Al Ongapo" |
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13 Dec 2003 07:59:16 PM |
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On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:28:04 -0800, "Rick" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
"Bob" <boby23456@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3FDBBB68.9060900@hotmail.com...
Yep. The institution of marriage has been around as long as humans as a
species. Now the sordid perverts are demanding that it be done away
with.
Done away with?
What a troll.
No, you are wrong again. Because, as a matter of fact he is precisely
correct in his conclusion.
Rick
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14 Dec 2003 11:17:21 PM |
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On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:22:48 -0700, Bob <boby23456@hotmail.com> posted
in alt.atheism:
Yep. The institution of marriage has been around as long as humans as a
species.
Only for the past 8,000 years or so. For the few million before that
there was no marriage.
The sad thing for the rump riders is that the more they ***** people off
the more likely they are to create animosity agaisnt themselves.
So? You want to hate, hate. No one cares.
Eventually the public will stop their nonsense, and the more
"successful" they have been the worse it will be for them.
Gay bashing is pretty much a thing of the past. Gay bashers now are
dealt with at the scene. Not kindly, but dealt with. And the courts
are considering the situation justifiable.
So much for bigots.
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"If we really know Truth, we do not fear hearing falsehoods or half-truths; if we are not sure of the truth - we shudder and try to shout down every utterance." - A. J. Mims
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15 Dec 2003 12:45:50 AM |
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Funny, I am only aware of 6000 years of written and recorded history. Where
did the other 2000 come from?
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:jqgqtv4nbs80sblb0icf92c80h47hkcoq9@Pern.rk...
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:22:48 -0700, Bob <boby23456@hotmail.com> posted
in alt.atheism:
Yep. The institution of marriage has been around as long as humans as a
species.
Only for the past 8,000 years or so. For the few million before that
there was no marriage.
The sad thing for the rump riders is that the more they ***** people off
the more likely they are to create animosity agaisnt themselves.
So? You want to hate, hate. No one cares.
Eventually the public will stop their nonsense, and the more
"successful" they have been the worse it will be for them.
Gay bashing is pretty much a thing of the past. Gay bashers now are
dealt with at the scene. Not kindly, but dealt with. And the courts
are considering the situation justifiable.
So much for bigots.
--
"If we really know Truth, we do not fear hearing falsehoods or
half-truths; if we are not sure of the truth - we shudder and try to shout
down every utterance." - A. J. Mims
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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15 Dec 2003 10:36:38 PM |
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On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:45:50 -0800, "Randy Jabsco"
<RandyJabsco@yahoo.com> posted in alt.atheism:
Funny, I am only aware of 6000 years of written and recorded history. Where
did the other 2000 come from?
The same place all years come from, the year fairy. I never said
anything about written history.
Catalhoyuk - 7,000 BCE.
Lascaux cave paintings - 15,000 BCE.
Willendorf Venus - 22,000 BCE.
All more than 8,000 years ago. There's more to "recorded" than the
alphabet.
Oh, yes, we even know that there was equality of the sexes at
Catalhoyuk. Pretty good for people who didn't leave written records,
huh?
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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of
themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts."
- Bertrand Russell
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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Anything to justify a ***** up the *****. Even invent 2000 years.
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:45:50 -0800, "Randy Jabsco"
<RandyJabsco@yahoo.com> posted in alt.atheism:
Funny, I am only aware of 6000 years of written and recorded history.
Where
did the other 2000 come from?
The same place all years come from, the year fairy. I never said
anything about written history.
Catalhoyuk - 7,000 BCE.
Lascaux cave paintings - 15,000 BCE.
Willendorf Venus - 22,000 BCE.
All more than 8,000 years ago. There's more to "recorded" than the
alphabet.
Oh, yes, we even know that there was equality of the sexes at
Catalhoyuk. Pretty good for people who didn't leave written records,
huh?
--
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so
certain of
themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts."
- Bertrand Russell
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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