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User: "Yang, AthD h.c"
Date: 08 Jul 2004 08:09:20 PM
Object: Another Conservative Jumping Off of Bush's Sinking Ship Part XXII (re: Why Are NeoCons so Incompetent?)
Chuck D'Amato: "Drop Cheney"
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/08/politics/campaign/08damato.html?pagewanted=all
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Yang
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AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
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Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -877 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
.

User: "Pookie"

Title: Re: Another Conservative Jumping Off of Bush's Sinking Ship Part XXII (re: Why Are NeoCons so Incompetent?) 08 Jul 2004 08:19:19 PM
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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Chuck D'Amato: "Drop Cheney"


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/08/politics/campaign/08damato.html?pagewanted=all
Chuck D'Amato? Which part of this made up name is (per the subject) a
conservative?
.

User: "TP"

Title: Re: Another Conservative Jumping Off of Bush's Sinking Ship Part XXII (re: Why Are NeoCons so Incompetent?) 08 Jul 2004 08:10:49 PM
Hopefully, they won't drop cheney. He's the weakest link and can be used
against the repugs just like Newt G. was some years ago. Keep him and watch
this assholes take the rest down with him.
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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Chuck D'Amato: "Drop Cheney"


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/08/politics/campaign/08damato.html?pagewanted=all



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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Socerey Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec

The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -877 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting

Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless

.
User: "Justice Cow"

Title: Re: Another Conservative Jumping Off of Bush's Sinking Ship Part XXII (re: Why Are NeoCons so Incompetent?) 09 Jul 2004 08:45:40 AM
In article <2l69krF99hohU1@uni-berlin.de>, "TP" <thomaspaine@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Hopefully, they won't drop cheney. He's the weakest link and can be used
against the repugs just like Newt G. was some years ago. Keep him and watch
this assholes take the rest down with him.

they can't drop cheney. this administration's approach to every
challenge is to hold the line, not show "weakness". so they'll keep
cheney. or kill him. or come close...of course not really..maybe a
faux heart attack will be sufficient for him to "withdraw". but I doubt
it.
.
User: "coasterqueen"

Title: Re: Another Conservative Jumping Off of Bush's Sinking Ship Part XXII (re: Why Are NeoCons so Incompetent?) 09 Jul 2004 04:25:24 PM
"Justice Cow" <justicecow@hotmail.cow> wrote in message


they can't drop cheney. this administration's approach to every
challenge is to hold the line, not show "weakness". so they'll keep
cheney. or kill him. or come close...of course not really..maybe a
faux heart attack will be sufficient for him to "withdraw". but I doubt
it.

If they get rid of Cheney, then they can appoint a new president.
--
All that is needed for evil to triumph is for good people to stand by and do
nothing.
Please vote anyway
.

User: "Bob Barnett"

Title: Re: Another Conservative Jumping Off of Bush's Sinking Ship Part 09 Jul 2004 08:51:18 AM

In article <2l69krF99hohU1@uni-berlin.de>, "TP" <thomaspaine@yahoo.com>
wrote:


Hopefully, they won't drop cheney.

They can't.
He's the rfeal President
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Another Conservative Jumping Off of Bush's Sinking Ship Part XXII (re: Why Are NeoCons so Incompetent?) 09 Jul 2004 09:00:10 AM
In article <10et8mmtoin3n0b@corp.supernews.com>, Bob Barnett
<bob.barnett@charter.net> wrote:

In article <2l69krF99hohU1@uni-berlin.de>, "TP" <thomaspaine@yahoo.com>
wrote:


Hopefully, they won't drop cheney.


They can't.
He's the rfeal President

"I'm the best fucking Vice President this fucking country has seen in
the last fucking century!" - ***** Cheney. Talking about his fucking
record...
.


User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Another Conservative Jumping Off of Bush's Sinking Ship Part XXII (re: Why Are NeoCons so Incompetent?) 09 Jul 2004 08:58:41 AM
In article <justicecow-AD23E9.09454009072004@news.east.cox.net>,
Justice Cow <justicecow@hotmail.cow> wrote:

In article <2l69krF99hohU1@uni-berlin.de>, "TP" <thomaspaine@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Hopefully, they won't drop cheney. He's the weakest link and can be used
against the repugs just like Newt G. was some years ago. Keep him and watch
this assholes take the rest down with him.



they can't drop cheney. this administration's approach to every
challenge is to hold the line, not show "weakness". so they'll keep
cheney. or kill him. or come close...of course not really..maybe a
faux heart attack will be sufficient for him to "withdraw". but I doubt
it.

It worked with Wellstone.
.

User: "lab~rat"

Title: Re: Another Conservative Jumping Off of Bush's Sinking Ship Part XXII (re: Why Are NeoCons so Incompetent?) 09 Jul 2004 09:45:41 AM
On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 09:45:40 -0400, Justice Cow
<justicecow@hotmail.cow> puked:

In article <2l69krF99hohU1@uni-berlin.de>, "TP" <thomaspaine@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Hopefully, they won't drop cheney. He's the weakest link and can be used
against the repugs just like Newt G. was some years ago. Keep him and watch
this assholes take the rest down with him.



they can't drop cheney. this administration's approach to every
challenge is to hold the line, not show "weakness". so they'll keep
cheney. or kill him. or come close...of course not really..maybe a
faux heart attack will be sufficient for him to "withdraw". but I doubt
it.

Problem is that he wouldn't stand an icecat's chance in hell of
getting elected in 2008. It seems like that's a good slot for the VP,
which confirms to me that the Dems aren't looking to Hillary to run
because it seems that Edwards is a viable candidate for president.
Either that, or they're throwing in the towel with Frankenstein and
letting Edwards & Hillary run next time.
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
.



User: "ATP"

Title: Re: Another Conservative Jumping Off of Bush's Sinking Ship Part XXII (re: Why Are NeoCons so Incompetent?) 08 Jul 2004 08:32:40 PM
Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

Chuck D'Amato: "Drop Cheney"

Who's "Chuck" D'Amato? There's only one sleazy, influence peddling former
Senator from NY named D'Amato, and he's Al D'Amato.
.
User: "Yang, AthD h.c"

Title: Re: Another Conservative Jumping Off of Bush's Sinking Ship Part XXII (re: Why Are NeoCons so Incompetent?) 08 Jul 2004 09:07:31 PM
On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 01:32:40 GMT, "ATP" <walter_munney@unforgiven.com>
wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

Chuck D'Amato: "Drop Cheney"

Who's "Chuck" D'Amato? There's only one sleazy, influence peddling former
Senator from NY named D'Amato, and he's Al D'Amato.

My bad, that would be Al.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Socerey Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -877 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
.
User: "Pookie"

Title: Re: Another Conservative Jumping Off of Bush's Sinking Ship Part XXII (re: Why Are NeoCons so Incompetent?) 08 Jul 2004 09:16:03 PM
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 01:32:40 GMT, "ATP" <walter_munney@unforgiven.com>
wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

Chuck D'Amato: "Drop Cheney"

Who's "Chuck" D'Amato? There's only one sleazy, influence peddling former
Senator from NY named D'Amato, and he's Al D'Amato.



My bad, that would be Al.

I knew who you meant, but he's not a conservative...
.
User: "raven1"

Title: Re: Another Conservative Jumping Off of Bush's Sinking Ship Part XXII (re: Why Are NeoCons so Incompetent?) 08 Jul 2004 09:59:59 PM
On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 02:16:03 GMT, "Pookie" <pookie18323@optonline.net>
wrote:


"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 01:32:40 GMT, "ATP" <walter_munney@unforgiven.com>
wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

Chuck D'Amato: "Drop Cheney"

Who's "Chuck" D'Amato? There's only one sleazy, influence peddling former
Senator from NY named D'Amato, and he's Al D'Amato.



My bad, that would be Al.


I knew who you meant, but he's not a conservative...

He sure as hell isn't a liberal either, and he *is* a Republican.
(As a side note he lost his last re-election bid largely because he
spent his time and money futilely attacking his opponent Chuck Schumer
for purportedly being a liberal, which putzhead D'Amato somehow failed
to grasp is not percieved as a negative in New York, rather than
giving any reason to vote for himself).
.
User: "Pookie"

Title: Re: Another Conservative Jumping Off of Bush's Sinking Ship Part XXII (re: Why Are NeoCons so Incompetent?) 09 Jul 2004 04:48:57 AM
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 02:16:03 GMT, "Pookie" <pookie18323@optonline.net>
wrote:


"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 01:32:40 GMT, "ATP" <walter_munney@unforgiven.com>
wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

Chuck D'Amato: "Drop Cheney"

Who's "Chuck" D'Amato? There's only one sleazy, influence peddling

former

Senator from NY named D'Amato, and he's Al D'Amato.



My bad, that would be Al.


I knew who you meant, but he's not a conservative...


He sure as hell isn't a liberal either, and he *is* a Republican.

No kidding...had the subject been "Another Republican" inst. of "Another
Conservative", you'd have a point.
.
User: "gammajoe8"

Title: Re: Another Conservative Jumping Off of Bush's Sinking Ship Part XXII (re: Why Are NeoCons so Incompetent?) 10 Jul 2004 08:10:20 PM
"Pookie" <pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote in message
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"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 02:16:03 GMT, "Pookie" <pookie18323@optonline.net>
wrote:


"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 01:32:40 GMT, "ATP"

<walter_munney@unforgiven.com>

wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

Chuck D'Amato: "Drop Cheney"

Who's "Chuck" D'Amato? There's only one sleazy, influence peddling

former

Senator from NY named D'Amato, and he's Al D'Amato.



My bad, that would be Al.


I knew who you meant, but he's not a conservative...


He sure as hell isn't a liberal either, and he *is* a Republican.


No kidding...had the subject been "Another Republican" inst. of "Another
Conservative", you'd have a point.

All present Republicans are conservative. The party has moved so far to
the
right, there is no place for a liberal Republican anymore. They are voting
Democrat
or not voting - that is if they have any self-respect.
Gammajoe8 AA#948



.
User: "Lord Calvert"

Title: Re: Another Conservative Jumping Off of Bush's Sinking Ship Part XXII (re: Why Are NeoCons so Incompetent?) 10 Jul 2004 11:51:03 PM

All present Republicans are conservative. The party has moved so far to
the
right, there is no place for a liberal Republican anymore. They are voting
Democrat
or not voting - that is if they have any self-respect.

You need to qualify that. Most present Republicans are neo-Conservative because
the small-government libertarian conservatives like Goldwater and Houghton are
being driven out by the big-government totalitarian theocrats. The modern GOP
is openly hostile to the principles of conservatism.
"The religious factions will go on imposing their will on others unless the
decent people connected to them recognize that religion has no place in public
policy. They must learn to make their views known without trying to make their
views the only alternatives... We have succeeded for 205 years in keeping the
affairs of state separate from the uncompromising idealism of religious groups
and we mustn't stop now. To retreat from that separation would violate the
principles of conservatism and the values upon which the framers built this
democratic republic." - Senator Barry Goldwater (R-AZ), Senate Speech, 15
September 1981
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
.
User: "gammajoe8"

Title: Re: Another Conservative Jumping Off of Bush's Sinking Ship Part XXII (re: Why Are NeoCons so Incompetent?) 11 Jul 2004 05:36:22 PM
"Lord Calvert" <forlornh@aol.complicated> wrote in message
news:20040711005103.23018.00001461@mb-m07.aol.com...

All present Republicans are conservative. The party has moved so far

to

the
right, there is no place for a liberal Republican anymore. They are

voting

Democrat
or not voting - that is if they have any self-respect.


You need to qualify that. Most present Republicans are neo-Conservative

because

the small-government libertarian conservatives like Goldwater and Houghton

are

being driven out by the big-government totalitarian theocrats. The modern

GOP

is openly hostile to the principles of conservatism.

"The religious factions will go on imposing their will on others unless

the

decent people connected to them recognize that religion has no place in

public

policy. They must learn to make their views known without trying to make

their

views the only alternatives... We have succeeded for 205 years in keeping

the

affairs of state separate from the uncompromising idealism of religious

groups

and we mustn't stop now. To retreat from that separation would violate

the

principles of conservatism and the values upon which the framers built

this

democratic republic." - Senator Barry Goldwater (R-AZ), Senate Speech, 15
September 1981

Qualified and ...
AMEN!
Gammajoe - aa#948





Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use

"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking,

which

leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson


.



User: "raven1"

Title: Re: Another Conservative Jumping Off of Bush's Sinking Ship Part XXII (re: Why Are NeoCons so Incompetent?) 09 Jul 2004 06:17:59 PM
On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 09:48:57 GMT, "Pookie" <pookie18323@optonline.net>
wrote:


"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 02:16:03 GMT, "Pookie" <pookie18323@optonline.net>
wrote:


"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 01:32:40 GMT, "ATP" <walter_munney@unforgiven.com>
wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

Chuck D'Amato: "Drop Cheney"

Who's "Chuck" D'Amato? There's only one sleazy, influence peddling

former

Senator from NY named D'Amato, and he's Al D'Amato.



My bad, that would be Al.


I knew who you meant, but he's not a conservative...


He sure as hell isn't a liberal either, and he *is* a Republican.


No kidding...had the subject been "Another Republican" inst. of "Another
Conservative", you'd have a point.

Wasn't my point in the first place. ;)


.







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