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19 Nov 2006 02:13:28 PM |
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Another Dawkins Review |
Hello all...
To avoid being "bias" towards Richard Dawkins' new book 'The God
Delusion', here is a review from an admirer (Daniel Dennett):
http://ase.tufts.edu/cogstud/papers/dawkinsreview.pdf
I found the review more of an applaud than a critical reception. Then
again, you be the judge.
Enjoy!
Best wishes,
Derrick Abdul-Hakim
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Another Dawkins Review |
19 Nov 2006 04:20:02 PM |
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On 19 Nov 2006 12:13:28 -0800, wrote:
- Refer: <1163967208.167251.131860@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Hello all...
To avoid being "bias" towards Richard Dawkins' new book 'The God
Delusion', here is a review from an admirer (Daniel Dennett):
http://ase.tufts.edu/cogstud/papers/dawkinsreview.pdf
I found the review more of an applaud than a critical reception. Then
again, you be the judge.
Enjoy!
Best wishes,
Derrick Abdul-Hakim
Interesting.
Dennett's main concern seems to be "what will replace religion?".
To which I simply respond: what will replace Polio?
You can interpolate the concomitant details yourselves, if you are
able.
His other minor concerns are still the same outdated rubbish
concerning "offending the religious".
This is one of the final areas of indoctrinated dogma that still
axiomatically demands special exemption from robust debate.
Dennett is still in the camp that allows this stupid discrimination to
continue, even if only as a wily political expedient in order to get
'the message' across to the widest audience.
Neither Dawkins, nor I think that this short term abrogation of truth
and reality is justified.
I do not think that either the truth, or reality, should ever be
suppressed for short term gain.
The Inquisitions and Sharia "Law" have shown us all where that leads.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Another Dawkins Review |
19 Nov 2006 09:20:48 PM |
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On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 08:50:02 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
Dennett's main concern seems to be "what will replace religion?".
To which I simply respond: what will replace Polio?
"Every sensible man, every honest man, must hold the christian sect in
horror. 'But what shall we substitute in its place?' you say. What? A
ferocious animal has sucked the blood of my relatives. I tell you to
rid yourselves of this beast and you ask me what you shall put in its
place?" - Voltaire
Neither Dawkins, nor I think that this short term abrogation of truth
and reality is justified.
I do not think that either the truth, or reality, should ever be
suppressed for short term gain.
The Inquisitions and Sharia "Law" have shown us all where that leads.
Let's not call a mental disease a "belief", huh? :)
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Another Dawkins Review |
20 Nov 2006 02:44:47 AM |
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On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 22:20:48 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
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On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 08:50:02 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
Dennett's main concern seems to be "what will replace religion?".
To which I simply respond: what will replace Polio?
"Every sensible man, every honest man, must hold the christian sect in
horror. 'But what shall we substitute in its place?' you say. What? A
ferocious animal has sucked the blood of my relatives. I tell you to
rid yourselves of this beast and you ask me what you shall put in its
place?" - Voltaire
Touche.
Neither Dawkins, nor I think that this short term abrogation of truth
and reality is justified.
I do not think that either the truth, or reality, should ever be
suppressed for short term gain.
The Inquisitions and Sharia "Law" have shown us all where that leads.
Let's not call a mental disease a "belief", huh? :)
English is so hidebound.
Let's invent another term for it, then.
Your turn!
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Another Dawkins Review |
20 Nov 2006 07:47:29 AM |
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On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:14:47 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 22:20:48 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
- Refer: <8k72m2hjf4863emtu9htl1do3e2g1f1t8s@4ax.com>
On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 08:50:02 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
Dennett's main concern seems to be "what will replace religion?".
To which I simply respond: what will replace Polio?
"Every sensible man, every honest man, must hold the christian sect in
horror. 'But what shall we substitute in its place?' you say. What? A
ferocious animal has sucked the blood of my relatives. I tell you to
rid yourselves of this beast and you ask me what you shall put in its
place?" - Voltaire
Touche.
Neither Dawkins, nor I think that this short term abrogation of truth
and reality is justified.
I do not think that either the truth, or reality, should ever be
suppressed for short term gain.
The Inquisitions and Sharia "Law" have shown us all where that leads.
Let's not call a mental disease a "belief", huh? :)
English is so hidebound.
Let's invent another term for it, then.
Your turn!
Religion.
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rukbat at optonline dot net
There are three kinds of men:
The ones that learn by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence.
- (Will Rogers)
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Another Dawkins Review |
20 Nov 2006 04:08:04 PM |
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On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 08:47:29 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
- Refer: <5fc3m21avs877dl8uutblufj4s9uh36sj6@4ax.com>
On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:14:47 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 22:20:48 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
- Refer: <8k72m2hjf4863emtu9htl1do3e2g1f1t8s@4ax.com>
On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 08:50:02 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
Dennett's main concern seems to be "what will replace religion?".
To which I simply respond: what will replace Polio?
"Every sensible man, every honest man, must hold the christian sect in
horror. 'But what shall we substitute in its place?' you say. What? A
ferocious animal has sucked the blood of my relatives. I tell you to
rid yourselves of this beast and you ask me what you shall put in its
place?" - Voltaire
Touche.
Neither Dawkins, nor I think that this short term abrogation of truth
and reality is justified.
I do not think that either the truth, or reality, should ever be
suppressed for short term gain.
The Inquisitions and Sharia "Law" have shown us all where that leads.
Let's not call a mental disease a "belief", huh? :)
English is so hidebound.
Let's invent another term for it, then.
Your turn!
Religion.
That word has acquired far too many positive connotations for it to be
an effective representative of the reality of 'belief'.
--
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Another Dawkins Review |
20 Nov 2006 05:13:59 PM |
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On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 08:38:04 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 08:47:29 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
- Refer: <5fc3m21avs877dl8uutblufj4s9uh36sj6@4ax.com>
On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:14:47 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 22:20:48 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
- Refer: <8k72m2hjf4863emtu9htl1do3e2g1f1t8s@4ax.com>
On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 08:50:02 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
Dennett's main concern seems to be "what will replace religion?".
To which I simply respond: what will replace Polio?
"Every sensible man, every honest man, must hold the christian sect in
horror. 'But what shall we substitute in its place?' you say. What? A
ferocious animal has sucked the blood of my relatives. I tell you to
rid yourselves of this beast and you ask me what you shall put in its
place?" - Voltaire
Touche.
Neither Dawkins, nor I think that this short term abrogation of truth
and reality is justified.
I do not think that either the truth, or reality, should ever be
suppressed for short term gain.
The Inquisitions and Sharia "Law" have shown us all where that leads.
Let's not call a mental disease a "belief", huh? :)
English is so hidebound.
Let's invent another term for it, then.
Your turn!
Religion.
That word has acquired far too many positive connotations for it to be
an effective representative of the reality of 'belief'.
Oh, I thought you meant another term for 'mental disease'.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds
are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her
tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the
existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of
the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."
- Thomas Jefferson (1743 - 1826)
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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21 Nov 2006 02:45:08 AM |
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On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 18:13:59 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
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On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 08:38:04 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 08:47:29 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
- Refer: <5fc3m21avs877dl8uutblufj4s9uh36sj6@4ax.com>
On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:14:47 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 22:20:48 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
- Refer: <8k72m2hjf4863emtu9htl1do3e2g1f1t8s@4ax.com>
On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 08:50:02 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
Dennett's main concern seems to be "what will replace religion?".
To which I simply respond: what will replace Polio?
"Every sensible man, every honest man, must hold the christian sect in
horror. 'But what shall we substitute in its place?' you say. What? A
ferocious animal has sucked the blood of my relatives. I tell you to
rid yourselves of this beast and you ask me what you shall put in its
place?" - Voltaire
Touche.
Neither Dawkins, nor I think that this short term abrogation of truth
and reality is justified.
I do not think that either the truth, or reality, should ever be
suppressed for short term gain.
The Inquisitions and Sharia "Law" have shown us all where that leads.
Let's not call a mental disease a "belief", huh? :)
English is so hidebound.
Let's invent another term for it, then.
Your turn!
Religion.
That word has acquired far too many positive connotations for it to be
an effective representative of the reality of 'belief'.
Oh, I thought you meant another term for 'mental disease'.
I did, partly.
Religion is still too positive a term for it though.
--
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