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"Budikka666" |
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12 May 2007 08:57:12 AM |
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Another Example of Duke's Fundamental Stupidity |
On Jan 31st 2004, I posted a message in a.a. about a petition to save
the Hubble telescope. Duck & Run's idiotic, blind, knee-jerk response
was:
"Ok, you foot the bill to keep looking at the same "sky" that's
already been looked at. "
http://tinyurl.com/2swqgk
What underlies his stupidity is his blind addiction to the Bible
(until that's proven wrong of course, in which case he runs and hides
behind antiquated Bible commentary).
You see, no matter what he says, deep in his mind is a quite literal
interpretation of the Bible. If the Bible says there was a global
flood, he has to create one, no matter how many lies he has to tell
to try and fit it into the very science which precludes it.
And deep down he truly does believe that the sky really is a solid
dome which holds back water over a flat Earth. This is why he's so
convinced that it never changes.
He doesn't have the first inkling of how truly deep and massive space
is - at least 156 billion light years across:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3753115.stm
with music (my favorite reference, ending in 666!):
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/1304666.stm
Containing its own evidence of the so-called "Big Bang":
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2271377.stm
He thinks the sky is pretty much the same every day and he pays almost
no attention to it. He has no fascination with it, despite the fact
that he believes it is the handiwork of a god and purportedly displays
the glory of this god.
How ironical! The atheists are far more engrossed by the majesty of
space than are the believers! LoL!
Duck & Run just doesn't really grasp that space is mostly empty, and
that of the precious matter and energy out there, the bulk of it is
not directly detectable by any science we have developed so far.
Hubble mapped it, however:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6235751.stm
Maybe Duck & Run believes that this dark energy/matter is some god!
Hubble spent five days looking at the faintest stars - stars we'd
never seen before int hat same sky:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5260008.stm
But the fact is that it isn't the same old sky that's already been
looked at. It's changing every day. 163,000 years ago, it changed
dramatically in one location. In February 1987, we just got the news
on earth: Supernova 1987A lit the sky.
The May 2007 edition of _Discover_ magazine has a feature on what
Hubble is *still* telling us about the ever-changing sky in the region
of 1987A
Here's a list of some of the other news Hubble has given to us about
that "same old sky" in the last few years:
It pictured a planet circling a star other than the Sun:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3707185.stm
It pictured the break-up of a comet:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4953780.stm
It determined the mass of a white dwarf:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4528586.stm
It made a new map of Pluto:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4230918.stm
It found the most distant object at the time:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3490657.stm
It first demonstrated cosmic acceleration:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3728341.stm
It reveled that we've underestimate the frequency of black holes:
http://tinyurl.com/2ltgpv
It saw galaxies we'd never seen before in that same sky:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3773117.stm
It saw the "pillars of creation" and their doom:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6246333.stm
In short, as if we didn't know it already, Duck & Run is an ignorant,
knee-jerk, blind faith-addicted moron.
Budikka
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| User: "GoDrex" |
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| Title: Re: Another Example of Duke's Fundamental Stupidity |
12 May 2007 07:29:09 PM |
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1178978232.170719.107710@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 31st 2004, I posted a message in a.a. about a petition to save
the Hubble telescope. Duck & Run's idiotic, blind, knee-jerk response
was:
"Ok, you foot the bill to keep looking at the same "sky" that's
already been looked at. "
http://tinyurl.com/2swqgk
he also thinks the moon doesn't rotate on it's axis - more evidence that his
brain is defective.
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Re: Another Example of Duke's Fundamental Stupidity |
13 May 2007 05:24:12 PM |
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On May 12, 7:29 pm, "GoDrex" <godre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Budikka666" <budik...@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1178978232.170719.107710@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 31st 2004, I posted a message in a.a. about a petition to save
the Hubble telescope. Duck & Run's idiotic, blind, knee-jerk response
was:
"Ok, you foot the bill to keep looking at the same "sky" that's
already been looked at. "
http://tinyurl.com/2swqgk
he also thinks the moon doesn't rotate on it's axis - more evidence that his
brain is defective.
I and others have already tackled him on that (I actually opened a
threa don that very topic some months back). Duck & Run ran away, of
course
He doesn't understand how desperately needed telescope time is. The
Webb telescope (I just learned) doesn't come online until 2013:
http://tinyurl.com/269h9h
and so the Hubble is needed until then, and it could still be found
serious uses for long after that.
Let's face it, Duck and Run is quite simply stupid. There's no other
word for it. And he's wilfully stupid, too. He won't listen and he
quite evidently is incapable of learning. Even here in a thread
dedicated to his stupidity, he's making huge blunders! LoL!
Budikka
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Another Example of Duke's Fundamental Stupidity |
13 May 2007 05:32:44 PM |
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On 13 May 2007 15:24:12 -0700, Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
he also thinks the moon doesn't rotate on it's axis - more evidence that his
brain is defective.
I and others have already tackled him on that (I actually opened a
threa don that very topic some months back). Duck & Run ran away, of
course
Then why am I still here saying "like a ball on a string"? You can always prove
otherwise, if you possibly can.
He doesn't understand how desperately needed telescope time is. The
Webb telescope (I just learned) doesn't come online until 2013:
http://tinyurl.com/269h9h
and so the Hubble is needed until then, and it could still be found
serious uses for long after that.
Let's face it, Duck and Run is quite simply stupid. There's no other
word for it. And he's wilfully stupid, too. He won't listen and he
quite evidently is incapable of learning. Even here in a thread
dedicated to his stupidity, he's making huge blunders! LoL!
Why can't you show it to anyone's satisfaction other than your atheist sucking
buddies?
Remember, bud the dud, like a ball on a string.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Re: Another Example of Duke's Fundamental Stupidity |
13 May 2007 07:31:51 AM |
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On May 12, 7:29 pm, "GoDrex" <godre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Budikka666" <budik...@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1178978232.170719.107710@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 31st 2004, I posted a message in a.a. about a petition to save
the Hubble telescope. Duck & Run's idiotic, blind, knee-jerk response
was:
"Ok, you foot the bill to keep looking at the same "sky" that's
already been looked at. "
http://tinyurl.com/2swqgk
he also thinks the moon doesn't rotate on it's axis - more evidence that his
brain is defective.
The hilarious thing is that even here, in this thread dedicated to his
appallingly stupidity, the first thing he posts (where he misspells
"overshadowing") is yet more proof of his stupidity!
In the message referenced above (http://tinyurl.com/2swqgk), I said
this: "There's now a petition to save the Hubble telescope, which at
current projections is going to be derelict long before its
replacement is ready:"
Duck & Run responded directly to that, so must have known (except for
his abysmal stupidity) that I mentioned the replacement. The
replacement is, of course, the JWST:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2251523.stm
and given that I mentioned this in January 2004, it's quite obvious
I;ve been following this:
http://tinyurl.com/2ebksh
But here's a classic example of the Duck & Run strategy. You get your
dumb ***** kicked on a topic, but instead of trying to shore up your
position with mroe evidence or a better argument, or instead of
admitting to your stupidity and abandoning the position, you display
your ignorance, side-step the criticism, toss out a straw man or two,
and then quietly abandon the thread. This is called "running away"!
Budikka
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Another Example of Duke's Fundamental Stupidity |
13 May 2007 09:02:06 AM |
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On 13 May 2007 05:31:51 -0700, Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
The hilarious thing is that even here, in this thread dedicated to his
appallingly stupidity, the first thing he posts (where he misspells
"overshadowing") is yet more proof of his stupidity!
Oh, pooh, pooh to you, bud the dud. A misspelled word.
Your position is getting weaker and weaker by the hour.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Another Example of Duke's Fundamental Stupidity |
13 May 2007 08:59:40 AM |
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On Sat, 12 May 2007 20:29:09 -0400, "GoDrex" <godrex35@hotmail.com> wrote:
he also thinks the moon doesn't rotate on it's axis - more evidence that his
brain is defective.
Like a ball on a string. Think doppler.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Mike" |
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| Title: Re: Another Example of Duke's Fundamental Stupidity |
13 May 2007 05:34:37 PM |
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On May 13, 9:59 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 12 May 2007 20:29:09 -0400, "GoDrex" <godre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
he also thinks the moon doesn't rotate on it's axis - more evidence that his
brain is defective.
Like a ball on a string. Think doppler.
Doppler. HAHA. Stop it, you're killing me. Please explain in
great detail what the Doppler effect has to do with it.
Why don't you try a very simple experiment. Place a soccer ball
on the ground and pretend it is the earth and pretend that you are the
moon. Try to make a circular revolution around the soccer ball while
directly facing it at all times. Count how many times you have
rotated as you make one revolution about the soccer ball.
I know religion has crippled your powers of reason and left you
in a state resembling dementia, but you can do this thought experiment
and reason it out. If not do the actual experiment and see what
happens.
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| User: "duke" |
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14 May 2007 05:16:38 PM |
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On 13 May 2007 15:34:37 -0700, Mike <matmzc@hofstra.edu> wrote:
Like a ball on a string. Think doppler.
Doppler. HAHA. Stop it, you're killing me. Please explain in
great detail what the Doppler effect has to do with it.
I am not surprised you don't understand.
Why don't you try a very simple experiment. Place a soccer ball
on the ground and pretend it is the earth and pretend that you are the
moon. Try to make a circular revolution around the soccer ball while
directly facing it at all times. Count how many times you have
rotated as you make one revolution about the soccer ball.
None. Moving sideways is easy, and I always face the earth. Now pretend you are
the earth and rotate the soccer ball on the string around you. How many
rotations did the moon have around it's axis?
Answer: none.
You're one hell of a dumbass.
I know religion has crippled your powers of reason and left you
in a state resembling dementia, but you can do this thought experiment
and reason it out. If not do the actual experiment and see what
happens.
Then why am I telling you you're the one that's wrong?
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Nomination for Humongously Clueless Theist Quote of the Month - But it's Duck & Run Again.... |
14 May 2007 05:58:00 PM |
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I nominate pretty much everything Duck & Run spouts in this pile of
rank horseshit he wrote! LoL! Look at his completely assinine
arrogance, too. There ought to be an "Arrogant Theist of the Month"
for that alone.
Budikka
On May 14, 5:16 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On 13 May 2007 15:34:37 -0700, Mike <mat...@hofstra.edu> wrote:
Like a ball on a string. Think doppler.
Doppler. HAHA. Stop it, you're killing me. Please explain in
great detail what the Doppler effect has to do with it.
I am not surprised you don't understand.
Why don't you try a very simple experiment. Place a soccer ball
on the ground and pretend it is the earth and pretend that you are the
moon. Try to make a circular revolution around the soccer ball while
directly facing it at all times. Count how many times you have
rotated as you make one revolution about the soccer ball.
None. Moving sideways is easy, and I always face the earth. Now pretend you are
the earth and rotate the soccer ball on the string around you. How many
rotations did the moon have around it's axis?
Answer: none.
You're one hell of a dumbass.
I know religion has crippled your powers of reason and left you
in a state resembling dementia, but you can do this thought experiment
and reason it out. If not do the actual experiment and see what
happens.
Then why am I telling you you're the one that's wrong?
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Mike" |
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14 May 2007 05:34:43 PM |
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On May 14, 6:16 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On 13 May 2007 15:34:37 -0700, Mike <mat...@hofstra.edu> wrote:
Like a ball on a string. Think doppler.
Doppler. HAHA. Stop it, you're killing me. Please explain in
great detail what the Doppler effect has to do with it.
I am not surprised you don't understand.
Why don't you try a very simple experiment. Place a soccer ball
on the ground and pretend it is the earth and pretend that you are the
moon. Try to make a circular revolution around the soccer ball while
directly facing it at all times. Count how many times you have
rotated as you make one revolution about the soccer ball.
None. Moving sideways is easy, and I always face the earth. Now pretend you are
the earth and rotate the soccer ball on the string around you. How many
rotations did the moon have around it's axis?
Answer: none.
You're one hell of a dumbass.
My god you are feebleminded. Look, the ground is stationary, the
soccer ball is stationary, you are the one who is moving around the
soccer ball. If you do not rotate that means that you face the same
direction, say North, as you circumnavigate the ball. Now I know your
IQ is less than your ***** size measured in centimeters, but do you
honestly think that you can make a circular orbit around a soccerball
while facing north all the time and simultaneously facing the ball?
No you can't. You have to ROTATE. To say it another way, imagine a
spaceship in space stationary with respect to the sun and the earth.
An ET is watching the earth-moon system and observes the moon make one
revolution about the earth. The ET will see every point on the
surface of the moon exactly one. In fact ET will observe the moon
rotate exactly once as it makes one revolution.
The only way you can have the moon not rotate is to use a bizzare
coordinate system in which the earth and moon are both stationary. In
that case the rest of the universe would have to rotate about the
earth-moon system. Are you really so incompetent that you can't get
this?
By the way in your earlier post you mentioned doppler. I would
be vastly amused if you would elaborate and tell me what you think the
doppler effect has to do with this question.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Another Example of Duke's Fundamental Stupidity |
15 May 2007 04:32:11 PM |
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On 14 May 2007 15:34:43 -0700, Mike <matmzc@hofstra.edu> wrote:
Why don't you try a very simple experiment. Place a soccer ball
on the ground and pretend it is the earth and pretend that you are the
moon. Try to make a circular revolution around the soccer ball while
directly facing it at all times. Count how many times you have
rotated as you make one revolution about the soccer ball.
None. Moving sideways is easy, and I always face the earth. Now pretend you are
the earth and rotate the soccer ball on the string around you. How many
rotations did the moon have around it's axis?
Answer: none.
You're one hell of a dumbass.
My god you are feebleminded. Look, the ground is stationary, the
soccer ball is stationary, you are the one who is moving around the
soccer ball. If you do not rotate that means that you face the same
direction, say North, as you circumnavigate the ball.
A ball on a string does not do that. Neither does the moon.
Next.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Big Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Another Example of Duke's Fundamental Stupidity |
15 May 2007 04:42:53 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On 14 May 2007 15:34:43 -0700, Mike <matmzc@hofstra.edu> wrote:
Why don't you try a very simple experiment. Place a soccer ball
on the ground and pretend it is the earth and pretend that you are the
moon. Try to make a circular revolution around the soccer ball while
directly facing it at all times. Count how many times you have
rotated as you make one revolution about the soccer ball.
None. Moving sideways is easy, and I always face the earth. Now pretend
you are
the earth and rotate the soccer ball on the string around you. How many
rotations did the moon have around it's axis?
Answer: none.
You're one hell of a dumbass.
My god you are feebleminded. Look, the ground is stationary, the
soccer ball is stationary, you are the one who is moving around the
soccer ball. If you do not rotate that means that you face the same
direction, say North, as you circumnavigate the ball.
A ball on a string does not do that. Neither does the moon.
Next.
Everything is relative.
My relatives took everything.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Another Example of Duke's Fundamental Stupidity |
17 May 2007 03:36:05 PM |
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On Tue, 15 May 2007 16:42:53 -0500, "Big Dave" <dhaap@houston.r.r.com> wrote:
A ball on a string does not do that. Neither does the moon.
Next.
Everything is relative.
My relatives took everything.
bubba dud does not understand "relative".
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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15 May 2007 09:16:33 PM |
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duke wrote:
On 14 May 2007 15:34:43 -0700, Mike <matmzc@hofstra.edu> wrote:
Why don't you try a very simple experiment. Place a soccer ball
on the ground and pretend it is the earth and pretend that you are the
moon. Try to make a circular revolution around the soccer ball while
directly facing it at all times. Count how many times you have
rotated as you make one revolution about the soccer ball.
None. Moving sideways is easy, and I always face the earth. Now pretend you are
the earth and rotate the soccer ball on the string around you. How many
rotations did the moon have around it's axis?
Answer: none.
You're one hell of a dumbass.
My god you are feebleminded. Look, the ground is stationary, the
soccer ball is stationary, you are the one who is moving around the
soccer ball. If you do not rotate that means that you face the same
direction, say North, as you circumnavigate the ball.
A ball on a string does not do that. Neither does the moon.
The moon is not a ball on a string. It is a rotating rock orbiting the
earth. If it were not orbiting, we'd see all sides of the moon
Unless you're a Flat Earther....
Next.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Another Example of Duke's Fundamental Stupidity |
17 May 2007 03:37:43 PM |
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On Tue, 15 May 2007 19:16:33 -0700, DanielSan <danielsangeo@comcast.net> wrote:
A ball on a string does not do that. Neither does the moon.
The moon is not a ball on a string. It is a rotating rock orbiting the
earth. If it were not orbiting, we'd see all sides of the moon
Note to DumbSh_t - a ball on a string also does not rotate.
Unless you're a Flat Earther....
Next.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| Title: Re: Another Example of Duke's Fundamental Stupidity |
14 May 2007 07:07:11 PM |
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On May 14, 5:34 pm, Mike <mat...@hofstra.edu> wrote:
On May 14, 6:16 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On 13 May 2007 15:34:37 -0700, Mike <mat...@hofstra.edu> wrote:
Like a ball on a string. Think doppler.
Doppler. HAHA. Stop it, you're killing me. Please explain in
great detail what the Doppler effect has to do with it.
I am not surprised you don't understand.
Why don't you try a very simple experiment. Place a soccer ball
on the ground and pretend it is the earth and pretend that you are the
moon. Try to make a circular revolution around the soccer ball while
directly facing it at all times. Count how many times you have
rotated as you make one revolution about the soccer ball.
None. Moving sideways is easy, and I always face the earth. Now pretend you are
the earth and rotate the soccer ball on the string around you. How many
rotations did the moon have around it's axis?
Answer: none.
You're one hell of a dumbass.
My god you are feebleminded. Look, the ground is stationary, the
soccer ball is stationary, you are the one who is moving around the
soccer ball. If you do not rotate that means that you face the same
direction, say North, as you circumnavigate the ball. Now I know your
IQ is less than your ***** size measured in centimeters, but do you
honestly think that you can make a circular orbit around a soccerball
while facing north all the time and simultaneously facing the ball?
No you can't. You have to ROTATE. To say it another way, imagine a
spaceship in space stationary with respect to the sun and the earth.
An ET is watching the earth-moon system and observes the moon make one
revolution about the earth. The ET will see every point on the
surface of the moon exactly one. In fact ET will observe the moon
rotate exactly once as it makes one revolution.
The only way you can have the moon not rotate is to use a bizzare
coordinate system in which the earth and moon are both stationary. In
that case the rest of the universe would have to rotate about the
earth-moon system. Are you really so incompetent that you can't get
this?
Yes he is! Trust me! I and hosts of others have tried to educate him
on this topic and he is as steadfastly boneheaded as you can be.
By the way in your earlier post you mentioned doppler. I would
be vastly amused if you would elaborate and tell me what you think the
doppler effect has to do with this question.
He can't explain that! He just tossed that out blindly. It's some
half-remembered topic he once thought he grasped that undoubtedly has
zero to do with the matter in hand but which his brain somehow
desperately spasmed a link to.
Make no mistake. By now, he knows what a dumbass blunder he made and
he's thoroughly incapable of retracting, apologising or explicitly
capitulating, so he's not even going to pretend he can respond.
Instead, he's going to do what he always does and hide his fundamental
stupidity in unsupported, blind, patently assinine accusations that
*everyone else* is stupid and he's the only one with smarts on
Usenet! LoL!
Yes, that's how irremediably STUPID he truly is.
Budikka
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: Another Example of Duke's Fundamental Stupidity |
14 May 2007 07:23:28 PM |
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Budikka666 wrote:
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Yes he is! Trust me! I and hosts of others have tried to educate him
on this topic and he is as steadfastly boneheaded as you can be.
He knows he is wrong in this and many other things. I suspect he does it
becaue he needs the attention and something is better than nothing.
His recent flood stupidity is a prime example. He has stated that he does
*not* believe in a literal A&E or flood yet continues to argue that they did
exist.
"Hit me", said the masochist.
"No", said the sadist.
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| User: "duke" |
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15 May 2007 04:39:40 PM |
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On Mon, 14 May 2007 17:23:28 -0700, "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net>
He knows he is wrong in this and many other things. I suspect he does it
becaue he needs the attention and something is better than nothing.
His recent flood stupidity is a prime example. He has stated that he does
*not* believe in a literal A&E or flood yet continues to argue that they did
exist.
Hey, mikey, want to explain to everyone why there could never have been a global
flood - "because of the partial pressure of air".
Or, as an emt wannabe, explain again how you explain to your patients that the
heart is not controlled by minute electrical currents.
Now, THIS guy wants others to believe in him.
You're as bad as bud the dud. She's still trying to prove that the biblical
flood did not happen in the last 6000 years. Haahaahaahaahaa.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
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| Title: Re: Another Example of Duke's Fundamental Stupidity |
15 May 2007 04:36:44 PM |
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On 14 May 2007 17:07:11 -0700, Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
Yes he is! Trust me! I and hosts of others have tried to educate him
on this topic and he is as steadfastly boneheaded as you can be.
Remember, dud, like a ball on a string
By the way in your earlier post you mentioned doppler. I would
be vastly amused if you would elaborate and tell me what you think the
doppler effect has to do with this question.
He can't explain that! He just tossed that out blindly. It's some
half-remembered topic he once thought he grasped that undoubtedly has
zero to do with the matter in hand but which his brain somehow
desperately spasmed a link to.
Over your head also, I see. Well, keep pretending.
Make no mistake. By now, he knows what a dumbass blunder he made and
he's thoroughly incapable of retracting, apologising or explicitly
capitulating, so he's not even going to pretend he can respond.
Can you show anyone that the "rotation" of the moon on it's axis is just
exactly the value needed to always show the same face to the earth? Not a
little too much. Not a little too little. Precisely, and in our lifetime.
Like a ball on a string, bud the dud.
Think doppler, bubba dud.
duke, American-American
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Re: Another Example of Duke's Fundamental Stupidity |
13 May 2007 06:00:44 PM |
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On May 13, 5:34 pm, Mike <mat...@hofstra.edu> wrote:
On May 13, 9:59 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 12 May 2007 20:29:09 -0400, "GoDrex" <godre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
he also thinks the moon doesn't rotate on it's axis - more evidence that his
brain is defective.
Like a ball on a string. Think doppler.
Doppler. HAHA. Stop it, you're killing me. Please explain in
great detail what the Doppler effect has to do with it.
Why don't you try a very simple experiment. Place a soccer ball
on the ground and pretend it is the earth and pretend that you are the
moon. Try to make a circular revolution around the soccer ball while
directly facing it at all times. Count how many times you have
rotated as you make one revolution about the soccer ball.
I know religion has crippled your powers of reason and left you
in a state resembling dementia, but you can do this thought experiment
and reason it out. If not do the actual experiment and see what
happens.
He probably really thinks that there really *is* a string, placed
there by some god, holding the Moon to the Earth. He hasn't yet
caught up with modern astro-physics.
I'm sure he believes that the Moon will continue to present the same
face to Earth even when it eventually escapes the gravitational pull -
since that divine string will hold it rigid! LoL!
But what can you say about a guy who failed the simplest intelligence
test imaginable (http://tinyurl.com/7zm43)? That he's astronomically
stupid? Indeed he is - as he proved when he was hammered on this very
topic in a dedicated thread some time ago:
http://tinyurl.com/yhyopg
Budikka
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Another Example of Duke's Fundamental Stupidity |
14 May 2007 05:18:37 PM |
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On 13 May 2007 16:00:44 -0700, Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
He probably really thinks that there really *is* a string, placed
there by some god, holding the Moon to the Earth. He hasn't yet
caught up with modern astro-physics.
Gravity is the simulated string. Rotation around the moon's axis is zero. Just
like a ball on a string.
I'm sure he believes that the Moon will continue to present the same
face to Earth even when it eventually escapes the gravitational pull -
since that divine string will hold it rigid! LoL!
Think doppler, bubba dud.
duke, American-American
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| User: "Mike" |
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| Title: Re: Another Example of Duke's Fundamental Stupidity |
13 May 2007 06:11:25 PM |
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On May 13, 7:00 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
On May 13, 5:34 pm, Mike <mat...@hofstra.edu> wrote:
Like a ball on a string. Think doppler.
Doppler. HAHA. Stop it, you're killing me. Please explain in
great detail what the Doppler effect has to do with it.
Why don't you try a very simple experiment. Place a soccer ball
on the ground and pretend it is the earth and pretend that you are the
moon. Try to make a circular revolution around the soccer ball while
directly facing it at all times. Count how many times you have
rotated as you make one revolution about the soccer ball.
I know religion has crippled your powers of reason and left you
in a state resembling dementia, but you can do this thought experiment
and reason it out. If not do the actual experiment and see what
happens.
He probably really thinks that there really *is* a string, placed
there by some god, holding the Moon to the Earth. He hasn't yet
caught up with modern astro-physics.
I'm sure he believes that the Moon will continue to present the same
face to Earth even when it eventually escapes the gravitational pull -
since that divine string will hold it rigid! LoL!
But what can you say about a guy who failed the simplest intelligence
test imaginable (http://tinyurl.com/7zm43)? That he's astronomically
stupid? Indeed he is - as he proved when he was hammered on this very
topic in a dedicated thread some time ago:http://tinyurl.com/yhyopg
But even if there was a string holding the moon to the earth, it
would make no difference. This is a question of geometry, not
physics. Can a sphere A revolve around a stationary sphere B and
present the same face towards B without undergoing one rotation per
revolution?
Mygodmygod!!!!! I have in the past thought that atheists are
sometimes to smug about being smarter than believers. That's probably
true in general, but on usenet a ridiculous percentage of the theists
who correspond with us belong to the knuckle-dragging decile of the
human population.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Another Example of Duke's Fundamental Stupidity |
14 May 2007 05:22:56 PM |
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On 13 May 2007 16:11:25 -0700, Mike <matmzc@hofstra.edu> wrote:
But even if there was a string holding the moon to the earth, it
would make no difference. This is a question of geometry, not
physics. Can a sphere A revolve around a stationary sphere B and
present the same face towards B without undergoing one rotation per
revolution?
Yep, just like a ball on a string. Just try a string (gravity) to a soccer ball
and twirl it around your head. Now many revolutions did the soccer ball have
about it's own axis?
Answer: none. The tie point on the ball always faces you. Zero angular
movement about it's own axis.
Bud the dud's turkey is once again cooked, carved, and served.
duke, American-American
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Another Example of Duke's Fundamental Stupidity |
15 May 2007 12:52:48 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:c2oh43hj9fmue6ocnijrrkk6u8sqgpu9tu@4ax.com:
On 13 May 2007 16:11:25 -0700, Mike <matmzc@hofstra.edu> wrote:
But even if there was a string holding the moon to the earth, it
would make no difference. This is a question of geometry, not
physics. Can a sphere A revolve around a stationary sphere B and
present the same face towards B without undergoing one rotation per
revolution?
Yep, just like a ball on a string. Just try a string (gravity) to a
soccer ball and twirl it around your head. Now many revolutions did
the soccer ball have about it's own axis?
Answer: none. The tie point on the ball always faces you. Zero
angular movement about it's own axis.
Bud the dud's turkey is once again cooked, carved, and served.
duke, you can't be this dumb. The ball goes around once every time it
goes around you.
If you faced the ball as it went around, you would turn around once
yourself, and the ball would be facing you as you turn.
--
Fred Stone
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"If George Bush put a microchip in your garbage under the Patriot Act,
there'd be mass demonstrations across the land. But do it in the name of
saving the planet and everyone's fine with it."
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: Another Example of Duke's Fundamental Stupidity |
16 May 2007 09:14:41 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:c2oh43hj9fmue6ocnijrrkk6u8sqgpu9tu@4ax.com:
On 13 May 2007 16:11:25 -0700, Mike <matmzc@hofstra.edu> wrote:
But even if there was a string holding the moon to the earth, it
would make no difference. This is a question of geometry, not
physics. Can a sphere A revolve around a stationary sphere B and
present the same face towards B without undergoing one rotation per
revolution?
Yep, just like a ball on a string. Just try a string (gravity) to a
soccer ball and twirl it around your head. Now many revolutions did
the soccer ball have about it's own axis?
Answer: none. The tie point on the ball always faces you. Zero
angular movement about it's own axis.
Bud the dud's turkey is once again cooked, carved, and served.
duke, you can't be this dumb.
Yes, he can be. ;-)
The ball goes around once every time it
goes around you.
If you faced the ball as it went around, you would turn around once
yourself, and the ball would be facing you as you turn.
He knows this. He just can't admit that he's wrong. :-)
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Another Example of Duke's Fundamental Stupidity |
18 May 2007 07:13:19 AM |
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DanielSan <danielsangeo@comcast.net> wrote in
news:YIidnZSGqvDuJ9bbnZ2dnUVZ_uHinZ2d@comcast.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:c2oh43hj9fmue6ocnijrrkk6u8sqgpu9tu@4ax.com:
On 13 May 2007 16:11:25 -0700, Mike <matmzc@hofstra.edu> wrote:
But even if there was a string holding the moon to the earth,
it
would make no difference. This is a question of geometry, not
physics. Can a sphere A revolve around a stationary sphere B and
present the same face towards B without undergoing one rotation per
revolution?
Yep, just like a ball on a string. Just try a string (gravity) to a
soccer ball and twirl it around your head. Now many revolutions did
the soccer ball have about it's own axis?
Answer: none. The tie point on the ball always faces you. Zero
angular movement about it's own axis.
Bud the dud's turkey is once again cooked, carved, and served.
duke, you can't be this dumb.
Yes, he can be. ;-)
I know.
The ball goes around once every time it
goes around you.
If you faced the ball as it went around, you would turn around once
yourself, and the ball would be facing you as you turn.
He knows this. He just can't admit that he's wrong. :-)
I know, he's like you.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"If George Bush put a microchip in your garbage under the Patriot Act,
there'd be mass demonstrations across the land. But do it in the name of
saving the planet and everyone's fine with it."
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Another Example of Duke's Fundamental Stupidity |
17 May 2007 03:20:11 PM |
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On 15 May 2007 17:52:48 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Bud the dud's turkey is once again cooked, carved, and served.
duke, you can't be this dumb. The ball goes around once every time it
goes around you.
That's not rotation on it's axis. A ball on a string doesn't rotate.
duke, American-American
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Another Example of Duke's Fundamental Stupidity |
18 May 2007 07:12:43 AM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in news:audp431m888oqd9tf8moaplcr7bgno0po3
@4ax.com:
On 15 May 2007 17:52:48 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Bud the dud's turkey is once again cooked, carved, and served.
duke, you can't be this dumb. The ball goes around once every time it
goes around you.
That's not rotation on it's axis. A ball on a string doesn't rotate.
Duke, the string is rotating.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"If George Bush put a microchip in your garbage under the Patriot Act,
there'd be mass demonstrations across the land. But do it in the name of
saving the planet and everyone's fine with it."
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Another Example of Duke's Fundamental Stupidity |
20 May 2007 08:53:14 AM |
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On 18 May 2007 12:12:43 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in news:audp431m888oqd9tf8moaplcr7bgno0po3
@4ax.com:
On 15 May 2007 17:52:48 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Bud the dud's turkey is once again cooked, carved, and served.
duke, you can't be this dumb. The ball goes around once every time it
goes around you.
That's not rotation on it's axis. A ball on a string doesn't rotate.
Duke, the string is rotating.
Fred: The moon is not rotating around it's own central axis. The moon moves
around the earth like a ball on a string.
duke, American-American
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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| Title: Re: Another Example of Duke's Fundamental Stupidity |
12 May 2007 09:41:08 AM |
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1178978232.170719.107710@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 31st 2004, I posted a message in a.a. about a petition to save
the Hubble telescope. Duck & Run's idiotic, blind, knee-jerk response
was:
"Ok, you foot the bill to keep looking at the same "sky" that's
already been looked at. "
http://tinyurl.com/2swqgk
What underlies his stupidity is his blind addiction to the Bible
(until that's proven wrong of course, in which case he runs and hides
behind antiquated Bible commentary).
You see, no matter what he says, deep in his mind is a quite literal
interpretation of the Bible. If the Bible says there was a global
flood, he has to create one, no matter how many lies he has to tell
to try and fit it into the very science which precludes it.
And deep down he truly does believe that the sky really is a solid
dome which holds back water over a flat Earth. This is why he's so
convinced that it never changes.
He doesn't have the first inkling of how truly deep and massive space
is - at least 156 billion light years across:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3753115.stm
with music (my favorite reference, ending in 666!):
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/1304666.stm
Containing its own evidence of the so-called "Big Bang":
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2271377.stm
He thinks the sky is pretty much the same every day and he pays almost
no attention to it. He has no fascination with it, despite the fact
that he believes it is the handiwork of a god and purportedly displays
the glory of this god.
How ironical! The atheists are far more engrossed by the majesty of
space than are the believers! LoL!
Duck & Run just doesn't really grasp that space is mostly empty, and
that of the precious matter and energy out there, the bulk of it is
not directly detectable by any science we have developed so far.
Hubble mapped it, however:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6235751.stm
Maybe Duck & Run believes that this dark energy/matter is some god!
Hubble spent five days looking at the faintest stars - stars we'd
never seen before int hat same sky:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5260008.stm
But the fact is that it isn't the same old sky that's already been
looked at. It's changing every day. 163,000 years ago, it changed
dramatically in one location. In February 1987, we just got the news
on earth: Supernova 1987A lit the sky.
The May 2007 edition of _Discover_ magazine has a feature on what
Hubble is *still* telling us about the ever-changing sky in the region
of 1987A
Here's a list of some of the other news Hubble has given to us about
that "same old sky" in the last few years:
It pictured a planet circling a star other than the Sun:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3707185.stm
It pictured the break-up of a comet:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4953780.stm
It determined the mass of a white dwarf:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4528586.stm
It made a new map of Pluto:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4230918.stm
It found the most distant object at the time:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3490657.stm
It first demonstrated cosmic acceleration:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3728341.stm
It reveled that we've underestimate the frequency of black holes:
http://tinyurl.com/2ltgpv
It saw galaxies we'd never seen before in that same sky:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3773117.stm
It saw the "pillars of creation" and their doom:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6246333.stm
In short, as if we didn't know it already, Duck & Run is an ignorant,
knee-jerk, blind faith-addicted moron.
Budikka
It would be one thing if the guy had his personal convictions and kept them
to himself. But noooooo! He isn't content with keeping his ignorance to
himself. He has to magnify it in a public forum. In his mind, 'God' could
perpetrate the most heinous of heinous acts of depravity one could possibly
imagine -- like, say, murdering every single infant baby on planet earth by
mecilessly drowning em' -- and 'duke' wouldn't see that as a 'sinful',
heinous act of depravity. He'd see it as a 'loving', merciful 'God'
demonstrating his love for his 'children' and remind people that this
'loving' God was helpless to do anything to refrain himself from murdering
them in such a 'loving' way. It was ultimately the 'evil' he consciously
created and infected angels and man with, after all, that forced him into
doing such a depraved, heinous act, don't you know! And a 'God' who declares
himself incapable of 'sinning' can't really 'sin', now can he? No matter
*what* he does.
Stupidity? You better believe it. But I have the feeling 'duke' doesn't
really believe the things he asserts. He just craves attention. And he sure
as hell gets it, doesn't he?
Greywolf
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