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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Budikka666"
Date: 15 Apr 2006 08:01:26 PM
Object: Another "Missing Link" Hominid Found
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v440/n7086/abs/nature04629.html
and
tinyurl.com/z7uu7
The creationists are being pushed further and further into the darkest
corners with their god of the gaps "argument". One wonders if
eventually they'll go >*poof*< and simply disappear. Hope springs
eternal.
Budikka
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User: "Mindfucked"

Title: Re: Saba Gracile Has Nothing to Offer 22 Apr 2006 02:13:09 PM
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1145706532.496401.93000@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

We are similar to bananas in that we share a portion of the same genes.
Why is that?

You, personally are similar to bananas simply because you ARE bananas!

If you want to convince me, you need to address the evidence. The fact
that you're running scared from it tells everyone volumes about your
vacuity and cowardice.

Two little questions (one about another question):
1) Why are you still running scared from posting evidence that you have
answered the following question?
Why, specifically, is saying:
"How is standing next to a nuclear missile about to detonate like
refusing to take the perceptual leap required to believe that because
something concievably or demonstrably could have occurred a certain
way, it did happen that way?"
Inconsistent with saying:
"evolution (which is an abstract noun) is a provisional
understanding, subject to revision if and when a more cogent understanding
is arrived at."?
2) What does your running from posting the evidence that you have answered
the above question say about your vacuity and cowardice?
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User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?0C7ULkM=?="

Title: Re: Saba Gracile Has Nothing to Offer 22 Apr 2006 10:58:19 PM
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1145706532.496401.93000@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Why is it you always want us to answer your unsupported adoloscent
assertions yet you've failed consistently to tackle even one supported
position I've taken?
Maybe you know of some totally NEUTRAL websites concerning evolution you can
recommend she read before continuing on with her. All she seems to know is
what she reads on Creation-Religion sites and keeps repeating the same thing
over an over again.
DD........
Message-ID: <1143332829.898493.270490@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
From: <Xabriol@gmail.com> Antonio L. Santana/Camden Cong. of
*Jehovah's Witnesses regarding the premeditated murder of Carol Gulley.*

You are doomed Carol. And they will just pick up the pieces. did you
write your will and testement yet?

Mr. Antonio L Santana then suggests someone break in her home in the middle
of the night and slit her throat or kill her by suffocation.
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User: "Free Lunch"

Title: Re: Saba Gracile Has Nothing to Offer 23 Apr 2006 11:23:24 AM
On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:58:19 -0500, in alt.talk.creationism
Đ.Ô.C <Watch@Witchtower.com> wrote in
<1145764701.333350@hosting.ispresults.com>:


"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1145706532.496401.93000@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Why is it you always want us to answer your unsupported adoloscent
assertions yet you've failed consistently to tackle even one supported
position I've taken?

Maybe you know of some totally NEUTRAL websites concerning evolution you can
recommend she read before continuing on with her. All she seems to know is
what she reads on Creation-Religion sites and keeps repeating the same thing
over an over again.

Science websites are neutral. It is the proponents of the lie called
creationism who refuse to admit to their lies or accept the evidence.

DD........
Message-ID: <1143332829.898493.270490@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
From: <Xabriol@gmail.com> Antonio L. Santana/Camden Cong. of
*Jehovah's Witnesses regarding the premeditated murder of Carol Gulley.*

You are doomed Carol. And they will just pick up the pieces. did you
write your will and testement yet?


Mr. Antonio L Santana then suggests someone break in her home in the middle
of the night and slit her throat or kill her by suffocation.
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User: "Ben Goren"

Title: Re: Creation Challenge: Where is Positive Scientific Evidence forID? 20 Apr 2006 11:28:43 AM
¬Saba Gracile¬ wrote:

yeah, come up with evidence like mouses (rodents) turning into a
meateating bat because they wanted to fly all over the place.

Ask and ye shall receive:
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/04/how_to_make_a_bat.php

What a joke.

Yes, you are.
Cheers,
b&
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User: "¬Saba Gracile¬"

Title: Re: Creation Challenge: Where is Positive Scientific Evidence for ID? 20 Apr 2006 01:15:01 PM
"Ben Goren" <ben@trumpetpower.com> skrev i melding news:qepkh3-abf.ln1@reiche.trumpetpower.com...

¬Saba Gracile¬ wrote:

yeah, come up with evidence like mouses (rodents) turning into a
meateating bat because they wanted to fly all over the place.


Ask and ye shall receive:

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/04/how_to_make_a_bat.php

I actually red that bowl of gulp, all it admits is that the bat has stayed the same for
some 50bill. years or some incredible number. A real swing to creationism, lol.
And then they show some nails becoming bigger making it like it's a wing in forming,
although wings are always well constructed aerodynamic creations from a mind
intending it to be a flying creature in the first place. And that's why bats have stayed
the same for all times.
Saba


What a joke.


Yes, you are.

Cheers,

b&

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User: "Budikka666"

Title: Re: Creation Challenge: Where is Positive Scientific Evidence for ID? 20 Apr 2006 07:44:55 PM
=ACSaba Gracile=AC wrote:
Nothing!
It's funny, but when I removed everything that was juvenile unsupported
clueless opinion, there was nothing left to respond to! This is
becoming tedious isn't it Little Saba? Sorry. Do please try again
when you find your brain.
Budikka
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User: "Ben Goren"

Title: Re: Creation Challenge: Where is Positive Scientific Evidence forID? 20 Apr 2006 01:47:54 PM
¬Saba Gracile¬ wrote:

Ben Goren wrote:

¬Saba Gracile¬ wrote:

yeah, come up with evidence like mouses (rodents) turning into
a meateating bat because they wanted to fly all over the
place.


Ask and ye shall receive:

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/04/how_to_make_a_bat.php


I actually red that bowl of gulp, all it admits is that the bat
has stayed the same for some 50bill. years or some incredible
number.

You clearly /didn't/ read the article. 50 billion years would,
indeed, be a most incredible number, since it's four times the age
of the universe and ten times the age of the earth.
No wonder you're so fucking stupid when it comes to science. You
can't even /count./
*****--even a /parrot/ has better math skills than you--and a chimp
or a gorilla would leave you in the dust.

A real swing to creationism, lol. And then they show some nails
becoming bigger making it like it's a wing in forming, although
wings are always well constructed aerodynamic creations from a
mind intending it to be a flying creature in the first place.
And that's why bats have stayed the same for all times.

You mean, like the wings on a flying squirrel or a flying snake?
Dude, just how desperate do you have to get to stoop to such
blatantly transparent lies? Oh--that's right. You're just a good
little Christer, doin' the Jesus jive.
Cheers,
b&
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User: "-¬Saba Gracile-¬"

Title: Re: Creation Challenge: Where is Positive Scientific Evidence for ID? 22 Apr 2006 05:17:37 AM
"Ben Goren" <ben@trumpetpower.com> skrev i melding news:rj1lh3-qn4.ln1@reiche.trumpetpower.com...

¬Saba Gracile¬ wrote:

Ben Goren wrote:

¬Saba Gracile¬ wrote:

yeah, come up with evidence like mouses (rodents) turning into
a meateating bat because they wanted to fly all over the
place.


Ask and ye shall receive:

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/04/how_to_make_a_bat.php


I actually red that bowl of gulp, all it admits is that the bat
has stayed the same for some 50bill. years or some incredible
number.


You clearly /didn't/ read the article. 50 billion years would,
indeed, be a most incredible number, since it's four times the age
of the universe and ten times the age of the earth.

No wonder you're so fucking stupid when it comes to science. You
can't even /count./

*****--even a /parrot/ has better math skills than you--and a chimp
or a gorilla would leave you in the dust.

A real swing to creationism, lol. And then they show some nails
becoming bigger making it like it's a wing in forming, although
wings are always well constructed aerodynamic creations from a
mind intending it to be a flying creature in the first place.
And that's why bats have stayed the same for all times.


You mean, like the wings on a flying squirrel or a flying snake?

Dude, just how desperate do you have to get to stoop to such
blatantly transparent lies? Oh--that's right. You're just a good
little Christer, doin' the Jesus jive.

Cheers,

It shows well what your problem is, not that creation is very likely, and that
evolusion is falsified ***** belief, but it's very important to bring Jesus into
the picture for you, even though he's not even interesting in this topic.
You guys are really the believers, and can't shake that there is an intelligence
behind the fully formed creations, that we find everywhere we turn our heads.
S

b&

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User: "Budikka666"

Title: Re: Creation Challenge: Where is Positive Scientific Evidence for ID? 22 Apr 2006 06:33:08 AM
-=ACBubba Gracless-=AC wrote:

It shows well what your problem is,

The world now knows only too well what *your* problem is - a complete
dearth of evidence for a single claim you've made. **WHERE IS YOUR
EVIDENCE**?
Is there some educational or mental disability you have which prevents
you from comprehending what **EVIDENCE** is and why it's important if
you wish to make a case for something? Please, let us know. We'll
help you all we can. But you are making yourself a world-wide
laughingstock when you keep blindly bumbling around like this.

not that creation is very likely,

There's **ZERO EVIDENCE** for it. Now which one of those five words is
a stumbling block for you?

evolusion is falsified ***** belief,

Another brain-dead assertion. Which part of **THERE'S 150 YEARS OF
SOLID SCIENCE FROM PEOPLE OF ALL FAITHS SUPPORTING EVOLUTION** is it
that you are stumbling over, Bubba Gracless?

but it's very important to bring Jesus into
the picture for you,

There was no Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of some god. if you
disagree, post your **SCIENTIFICALLY VALID EVIDENCE** here. Until and
unless you do, this statement stands.

even though he's not even interesting in this topic.

He's a complete waste of time, No Sabe Nada, as the last 2,000 years
has proven. We have millions of muslims and Jews and billions of
Christians on Earth and it hasn't made a iota of difference to the
state the planet is in. Where is your god and what good is he doing?

You guys are really the believers, and can't shake that there is an intel=

ligence

behind the fully formed creations, that we find everywhere we turn our he=

ads.
**ZERO EVIDENCE**. Until and unless you support your claims, you are
basically a childish little LIAR.
Budikka
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User: "Mindfucked"

Title: Re: Creation Challenge: Where is Positive Scientific Evidence for ID? 22 Apr 2006 02:55:18 PM
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1145705588.606554.48830@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
Please consider your words below in light of your inability to prove that
you answered the question (pasted at the end of this message) and your
continued 'running away' from it:

The world now knows only too well what *your* problem is - a complete
dearth of evidence for a single claim you've made. **WHERE IS YOUR
EVIDENCE**?
Is there some educational or mental disability you have which prevents
you from comprehending what **EVIDENCE** is and why it's important if
you wish to make a case for something? Please, let us know. We'll
help you all we can. But you are making yourself a world-wide
laughingstock when you keep blindly bumbling around like this.
**ZERO EVIDENCE**. Until and unless you support your claims, you are
basically a childish little LIAR.

Remember: You have not provided ONE link in support of your assertion that
you have already answered the question - or one link to the original answer.
Why, specifically, is saying:
"How is standing next to a nuclear missile about to detonate like
refusing to take the perceptual leap required to believe that because
something concievably or demonstrably could have occurred a certain
way, it did happen that way?"
Inconsistent with saying:
"evolution (which is an abstract noun) is a provisional
understanding, subject to revision if and when a more cogent understanding
is arrived at."?
http://tinyurl.com/zueb3
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User: "Mindfucked"

Title: Re: Creation Challenge: Where is Positive Scientific Evidence for ID? 20 Apr 2006 01:01:31 PM
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1145527797.671598.203160@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...

Do please try again when you have:
1. The guts to formally debate me.
2. The science to formally debate me.

3. The stamina to keep chasing me
Budikka
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User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Creation Challenge: Where is Positive Scientific Evidence for ID? 20 Apr 2006 06:26:15 AM
On 20 Apr 2006 03:09:57 -0700, "Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <1145527797.671598.203160@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>

¬No Sabe Nada¬ wrote:

You know, when I removed everything from your message that contained no
scientific support whatseover, and everything that was nothing but
whiney-***** sour grapes, there wasn't a thing left to respond to. So
sorry! Do please try again when you have:
1. The guts to formally debate me.
2. The science to formally debate me.

Budikka

As I have previously intimated, she will only possess the requisite
scientific knowledge for her chosen topics (sorry: "riddles"!), AFTER
she completes at least a Bachelor Degree in Science, and quite likely,
not even then.
Don't hold your breath.
She's got to finish kindergarten first.
JW's. What did the thinking world do to deserve these fucking morons?
--
Michael Gray.
Founding Member and Doorman,
Earthquack's 666 Club.
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User: "Mindfucked"

Title: Re: Creation Challenge: Where is Positive Scientific Evidence for ID? 20 Apr 2006 01:18:13 PM
"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
news:1kre42ljma232a3psgsub9jdc0107qk2mn@4ax.com...

As I have previously intimated, she will only possess the requisite
scientific knowledge for her chosen topics (sorry: "riddles"!), AFTER
she completes at least a Bachelor Degree in Science, and quite likely,
not even then.

Don't hold your breath.
She's got to finish kindergarten first.

JW's. What did the thinking world do to deserve these fucking morons?

I think it more worrying that the 'thinking world' has morons such as
yourself representing it - What have you actually said other than
'creationists are morons', 'anyone who thinks differently to me is a moron'
and 'I have a degree' - Big deal!
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Creation Challenge: Where is Positive Scientific Evidence for ID? 20 Apr 2006 09:53:03 PM
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:18:13 +0100, "Mindfucked"
<mindfucked@bulldoghome.com> wrote:
- Refer: <e28j7e$no0$1@emma.aioe.org>


"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
news:1kre42ljma232a3psgsub9jdc0107qk2mn@4ax.com...

As I have previously intimated, she will only possess the requisite
scientific knowledge for her chosen topics (sorry: "riddles"!), AFTER
she completes at least a Bachelor Degree in Science, and quite likely,
not even then.

Don't hold your breath.
She's got to finish kindergarten first.

JW's. What did the thinking world do to deserve these fucking morons?


I think it more worrying that the 'thinking world' has morons such as
yourself representing it - What have you actually said other than
'creationists are morons', 'anyone who thinks differently to me is a moron'
and 'I have a degree' - Big deal!

Jealous, are we sweetcakes?
At least you care enough about me to invent stories.
But it's becoming a bit like stalking.
Isn't it time we started dating other people, honey?
--
Michael Gray.
Founding Member and Doorman,
Earthquack's 666 Club.
.
User: "Mindfucked"

Title: Re: Creation Challenge: Where is Positive Scientific Evidence for ID? 21 Apr 2006 06:51:21 AM
"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
news:p2ig425mdkhb0q43v1uvtjjtbq1q8bces1@4ax.com...

As I have previously intimated, she will only possess the requisite
scientific knowledge for her chosen topics (sorry: "riddles"!), AFTER
she completes at least a Bachelor Degree in Science, and quite likely,
not even then.

Don't hold your breath.
She's got to finish kindergarten first.

JW's. What did the thinking world do to deserve these fucking morons?


I think it more worrying that the 'thinking world' has morons such as
yourself representing it - What have you actually said other than
'creationists are morons', 'anyone who thinks differently to me is a

moron'

and 'I have a degree' - Big deal!


Jealous, are we sweetcakes?

Of course! - I want to learn the 'Michael Gray' argumentation style!
How does it go?
Something like *plonk* isn't it?
Deep, man - really deep...
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User: "KinKade*~"

Title: Re: Creation Challenge: Where is Positive Scientific Evidence for ID? 21 Apr 2006 01:16:45 PM
"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:18:13 +0100, "Mindfucked"
<mindfucked@bulldoghome.com> wrote:
- Refer: <e28j7e$no0$1@emma.aioe.org>


"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
news:1kre42ljma232a3psgsub9jdc0107qk2mn@4ax.com...

As I have previously intimated, she will only possess the requisite
scientific knowledge for her chosen topics (sorry: "riddles"!), AFTER
she completes at least a Bachelor Degree in Science, and quite likely,
not even then.

Don't hold your breath.
She's got to finish kindergarten first.

JW's. What did the thinking world do to deserve these fucking morons?


I think it more worrying that the 'thinking world' has morons such as
yourself representing it - What have you actually said other than
'creationists are morons', 'anyone who thinks differently to me is a
moron'
and 'I have a degree' - Big deal!


Jealous, are we sweetcakes?
At least you care enough about me to invent stories.
But it's becoming a bit like stalking.
Isn't it time we started dating other people, honey?

He's another stalker like his bro jabbers. He's after you because his
sweetie carol dumped his sorry arse. Just watch how this sucker follows up
her every post with some toxic waste from his Mindfucked head. Looks like
your next.
.
User: "Mindfucked"

Title: Re: Creation Challenge: Where is Positive Scientific Evidence for ID? 21 Apr 2006 02:42:08 PM
"KinKade*~" <nospamkk@kinnygr.com> wrote in message
news:e2b7gg$rrv$1@emma.aioe.org...

As I have previously intimated, she will only possess the requisite
scientific knowledge for her chosen topics (sorry: "riddles"!), AFTER
she completes at least a Bachelor Degree in Science, and quite likely,
not even then.

Don't hold your breath.
She's got to finish kindergarten first.

JW's. What did the thinking world do to deserve these fucking morons?


I think it more worrying that the 'thinking world' has morons such as
yourself representing it - What have you actually said other than
'creationists are morons', 'anyone who thinks differently to me is a
moron'
and 'I have a degree' - Big deal!


Jealous, are we sweetcakes?
At least you care enough about me to invent stories.
But it's becoming a bit like stalking.
Isn't it time we started dating other people, honey?



He's another stalker like his bro jabbers. He's after you because his
sweetie carol dumped his sorry arse. Just watch how this sucker follows

up

her every post with some toxic waste from his Mindfucked head. Looks like
your next.

Not 'your'; 'you're' is the correct form for the passage above:
'Your' means 'Belonging to you'
Usage of this form in your sentence would mean: 'Looks like belonging to you
next' - it makes no sense whatsoever, yet when the correct form is used, a
contraction of 'you' and 'are' (i.e: 'you're'), the sentence would correctly
say. 'Looks like you are next' = much better.
Please learn this lesson now so I don't have to correct you next time,
KinKade(ringpiece/squiggly line(reminder to self - must remember to get a
new keyboard))!
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User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Creation Challenge: Where is Positive Scientific Evidence for ID? 21 Apr 2006 10:01:25 PM
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 13:16:45 -0500, "KinKade*~" <nospamkk@kinnygr.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <e2b7gg$rrv$1@emma.aioe.org>


"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:18:13 +0100, "Mindfucked"
<mindfucked@bulldoghome.com> wrote:
- Refer: <e28j7e$no0$1@emma.aioe.org>


"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
news:1kre42ljma232a3psgsub9jdc0107qk2mn@4ax.com...

As I have previously intimated, she will only possess the requisite
scientific knowledge for her chosen topics (sorry: "riddles"!), AFTER
she completes at least a Bachelor Degree in Science, and quite likely,
not even then.

Don't hold your breath.
She's got to finish kindergarten first.

JW's. What did the thinking world do to deserve these fucking morons?


I think it more worrying that the 'thinking world' has morons such as
yourself representing it - What have you actually said other than
'creationists are morons', 'anyone who thinks differently to me is a
moron'
and 'I have a degree' - Big deal!


Jealous, are we sweetcakes?
At least you care enough about me to invent stories.
But it's becoming a bit like stalking.
Isn't it time we started dating other people, honey?



He's another stalker like his bro jabbers.

Two of them on the one planet?
What more proof do you need that there is no God?!

He's after you because his
sweetie carol dumped his sorry arse. Just watch how this sucker follows up
her every post with some toxic waste from his Mindfucked head. Looks like
your next.

Oh, great...
Like being in prison between "Bubba" and "Manson", but without the
upside.
--
Michael Gray.
Founding Member and Doorman,
Earthquack's 666 Club.
EAC Trainee Inquisitor.
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User: "John Baker"

Title: Re: Creation Challenge: Where is Positive Scientific Evidence for ID? 21 Apr 2006 03:49:05 PM
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 13:16:45 -0500, "KinKade*~" <nospamkk@kinnygr.com>
wrote:


"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:18:13 +0100, "Mindfucked"
<mindfucked@bulldoghome.com> wrote:
- Refer: <e28j7e$no0$1@emma.aioe.org>


"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
news:1kre42ljma232a3psgsub9jdc0107qk2mn@4ax.com...

As I have previously intimated, she will only possess the requisite
scientific knowledge for her chosen topics (sorry: "riddles"!), AFTER
she completes at least a Bachelor Degree in Science, and quite likely,
not even then.

Don't hold your breath.
She's got to finish kindergarten first.

JW's. What did the thinking world do to deserve these fucking morons?


I think it more worrying that the 'thinking world' has morons such as
yourself representing it - What have you actually said other than
'creationists are morons', 'anyone who thinks differently to me is a
moron'
and 'I have a degree' - Big deal!


Jealous, are we sweetcakes?
At least you care enough about me to invent stories.
But it's becoming a bit like stalking.
Isn't it time we started dating other people, honey?



He's another stalker like his bro jabbers.

I think it's very likely that he *is* Jabbers.

He's after you because his
sweetie carol dumped his sorry arse. Just watch how this sucker follows up
her every post with some toxic waste from his Mindfucked head. Looks like
your next.

.
User: "Mindfucked"

Title: Re: Creation Challenge: Where is Positive Scientific Evidence for ID? 22 Apr 2006 02:28:19 PM
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:q5hi429d8osf6mvvj2hldihdafn4inqgtq@4ax.com...

As I have previously intimated, she will only possess the requisite
scientific knowledge for her chosen topics (sorry: "riddles"!), AFTER
she completes at least a Bachelor Degree in Science, and quite

likely,

not even then.

Don't hold your breath.
She's got to finish kindergarten first.

JW's. What did the thinking world do to deserve these fucking morons?


I think it more worrying that the 'thinking world' has morons such as
yourself representing it - What have you actually said other than
'creationists are morons', 'anyone who thinks differently to me is a
moron'
and 'I have a degree' - Big deal!


Jealous, are we sweetcakes?
At least you care enough about me to invent stories.
But it's becoming a bit like stalking.
Isn't it time we started dating other people, honey?



He's another stalker like his bro jabbers.


I think it's very likely that he *is* Jabbers.

Then perhaps you might need to consider not thinking in future.
You are clearly not very good at it.
.

User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Creation Challenge: Where is Positive Scientific Evidence for ID? 21 Apr 2006 10:04:00 PM
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:49:05 GMT, John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
- Refer: <q5hi429d8osf6mvvj2hldihdafn4inqgtq@4ax.com>

On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 13:16:45 -0500, "KinKade*~" <nospamkk@kinnygr.com>
wrote:


"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:18:13 +0100, "Mindfucked"
<mindfucked@bulldoghome.com> wrote:
- Refer: <e28j7e$no0$1@emma.aioe.org>


"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
news:1kre42ljma232a3psgsub9jdc0107qk2mn@4ax.com...

As I have previously intimated, she will only possess the requisite
scientific knowledge for her chosen topics (sorry: "riddles"!), AFTER
she completes at least a Bachelor Degree in Science, and quite likely,
not even then.

Don't hold your breath.
She's got to finish kindergarten first.

JW's. What did the thinking world do to deserve these fucking morons?


I think it more worrying that the 'thinking world' has morons such as
yourself representing it - What have you actually said other than
'creationists are morons', 'anyone who thinks differently to me is a
moron'
and 'I have a degree' - Big deal!


Jealous, are we sweetcakes?
At least you care enough about me to invent stories.
But it's becoming a bit like stalking.
Isn't it time we started dating other people, honey?



He's another stalker like his bro jabbers.


I think it's very likely that he *is* Jabbers.

:
Could be.
I very similar level of brain capacity, vis: negative.
If my new stalker should ever display some form of logic, or
contribute positively to an issue, we'll know that it cannot be the
real pooh-jabber, but an even more pathetic wannabe.
--
Michael Gray.
Founding Member and Doorman,
Earthquack's 666 Club.
EAC Trainee Inquisitor.
.
User: "Mindfucked"

Title: Re: Creation Challenge: Where is Positive Scientific Evidence for ID? 22 Apr 2006 02:40:38 PM
"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
news:i47j42hgmir523m601fo7k69d650arlbtv@4ax.com...

As I have previously intimated, she will only possess the requisite
scientific knowledge for her chosen topics (sorry: "riddles"!),

AFTER

she completes at least a Bachelor Degree in Science, and quite

likely,

not even then.

Don't hold your breath.
She's got to finish kindergarten first.

JW's. What did the thinking world do to deserve these fucking

morons?


I think it more worrying that the 'thinking world' has morons such as
yourself representing it - What have you actually said other than
'creationists are morons', 'anyone who thinks differently to me is a
moron'
and 'I have a degree' - Big deal!


Jealous, are we sweetcakes?
At least you care enough about me to invent stories.
But it's becoming a bit like stalking.
Isn't it time we started dating other people, honey?



He's another stalker like his bro jabbers.


I think it's very likely that he *is* Jabbers.

:

Could be.
I very similar level of brain capacity, vis: negative.

Please use grammatically complete sentences - "I very similar level" makes
no sense - "I have a very similar level" is the correct form; is easily
readable; and is logically consistent
.





User: "John Baker"

Title: Re: Creation Challenge: Where is Positive Scientific Evidence for ID? 20 Apr 2006 06:31:03 PM
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:18:13 +0100, "Mindfucked"
<mindfucked@bulldoghome.com> wrote:


"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
news:1kre42ljma232a3psgsub9jdc0107qk2mn@4ax.com...

As I have previously intimated, she will only possess the requisite
scientific knowledge for her chosen topics (sorry: "riddles"!), AFTER
she completes at least a Bachelor Degree in Science, and quite likely,
not even then.

Don't hold your breath.
She's got to finish kindergarten first.

JW's. What did the thinking world do to deserve these fucking morons?


I think it more worrying that the 'thinking world' has morons such as
yourself representing it - What have you actually said other than
'creationists are morons', 'anyone who thinks differently to me is a moron'
and 'I have a degree' - Big deal!

Thinking differently than me doesn't necessarily make one a moron. But
creationists don't think at all. They parrot.



.



User: "Ben Goren"

Title: Re: Creation Challenge: Where is Positive Scientific Evidence forID? 20 Apr 2006 11:25:44 AM
¬Saba Gracile¬ wrote:

Ben Goren wrote:

¬Saba Gracile¬ wrote:

Ben Goren wrote:

Budikka666 wrote:

¬ Saba Gracile¬ wrote:

My 2 ¢ wrote:

Ben Goren wrote:

¬ Saba Gracile¬ wrote:

If one takes a computer and looks inside it how neatly
it is designed and also comes with software and all the
programs necessary for it's particular function fully
functioning in all its glory, would you ask where the
human who made it can be found? You wouldn't even
assume that it wasn't a designer of it somewhere.


So who designed your god?


None of them will answer my questions either. If their
god could create a whole Universe how come he couldn't
write his own scrolls? Why did he need humans to do it
for him? --


Ok, that would be easy, he'd just need a monumental pen
(or feather or whatever they used back then) and that
would be so much easier? I think not.


Those last three words pretty much define you and your ilk,
don't they?


it was kind of a joke which went over your head. If he wrote
the bible himself in 10 seconds, would anybody believe in it
more? no, but he connects with humans in what he did, that's
one important factor that you missed.


Dude...the Bible is some of the worst and worngest fiction
ever set to paper--/and/ it's just about the most IMmoral
document ever authored. I mean, come on! An all-loving
superdude who plays Jedi mind tricks on a hapless victim just
to give himself an excuse to murder hundreds of thousands of
describedly-innocent children? Infinite torture for 99% of
humanity for failing to give his son a good enough rim
job? And that's not to mention all the God-ordered genocides,
mass rapes, cannibalism, infanticides, slavery, and more.


So? you're an ancestor from some apes because of this?


No, I /am/ an ape, and the Bible has *****-all to do with it.

You're an ape, too. Deal.


right, it's all apes now, the computer, the desk, you, me, God
stems from apes to,right?

An ape, colloquially speaking, is a tailless primate. Do you have
a tail?

I mean, it's as much evidence for that as for humans decending
from apes, so why not? Evolutionists believe anything they
like! I really admire their fantasy ability!

Says the gullible idiot who believes in talking snakes and that
little green men have nothing better to do after a bazillion-mile
trip than to trample wheat.

Do you know what makes me laugh my ***** off about you
creationists? Let me share it with you. It's that you
have the blind, unthinking gall to claim (without a shred
of published science to support you) that your god is
magnificent and only he could have "designed" nature,
then you turn right around and give de facto admission
after admission that he's the most incompetent, hamfisted,
brain-dead, clueless designer ever to create.


brain-dead? He designed the brain, that makes him a rocket
scientist in my eyes.


And you typed that with a straight face? Rocket scientists
doing biochemical engineering?


If you don't know the term 'rocket scientist' as an ironic
speaking of a very clever person, then I'm sorry for you.


You mix metaphors with the consummate skill of the village
idiot.


EVerybody knows about the rocketscientist metaphor, err.

Yes. And everybody with even a modicum of rhetorical skill in the
English language knows better than to apply it so inelegantly.

Your message here is a case in point. Humans erected the
pyramids. Around the same time as the Great pyramid was
constructed, primitive humans (even by Egyptian standards)
erected Stonehenge.


*clap clap* That proves God's inexistance? Nobody knows how
those stones where put there,


<sigh>

The weren't ``put'' /anywhere./ They simply /are./


watev


May I quote you the next time that you claim that your
invisible hairy sky ape with buttocks simply is that he is?


deep,!

``watev''

neither does scientists believe that some of the most
advanced crop circles are made by man (what ever that
implies).


It implies that you're an illogical fuckwit who'll swallow
whatever some fast-talking con artist shoves down your
throat. The crop circles have been so well demonstrated to be
public guerrilla art (including the artists's own statements)
that it's not even funny.


I thought so too, definetely made by humans, with some rope
and wooden pieces. Then I saw this program, and I know one
shouldn't believe in ***** on TV


But you do. And you believe it with all the wide-eyed sincerity
of any mark at the carnival or any sinner in a revival tent.


you are good with metaphores for not understanding the
rocketscientist thing, I must say. I almost didn't watch that TV
program thinking oh no those stupid crop circle fantast, but I
was glued to the screen after 10 minutes. You can mail one
professor and ask him what he means when he believe they are
real: Fred Fingler-university professor.

Google knows of no ``Fred Fingler'' who is a university professor.
If you don't want it made painfully clear just how you go about
making ***** up, tell us all exactly what university employs this
``Fred Fingler,'' what he's a professor of, and what department
he's in.
We have an honorary title 'round these here parts for people like
you who mistrake their academic fantasies for reality: ``Asshat.''

Like there's any difference.

Hey--I can let you in on a great deal on some beachfront
property here in Arizona. Only $50 an acre--you can't beat
that! Just let me know and I'll email you a copy of the deed,
and then we can discuss how you can get the cash to me.


Lol, yeah, I'd like me som American soil in fact.

I'd be delighted to sell you some choice American land. If you're
serious, let's talk.
Cheers,
b&
--
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BAAWA Knight of Blasphemy
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User: "¬Saba Gracile¬"

Title: Re: Creation Challenge: Where is Positive Scientific Evidence for ID? 20 Apr 2006 01:33:33 PM
"Ben Goren" <ben@trumpetpower.com> skrev i melding news:99pkh3-abf.ln1@reiche.trumpetpower.com...

¬Saba Gracile¬ wrote:

Ben Goren wrote:

¬Saba Gracile¬ wrote:

Ben Goren wrote:

Budikka666 wrote:

¬ Saba Gracile¬ wrote:

My 2 ¢ wrote:

Ben Goren wrote:

¬ Saba Gracile¬ wrote:

If one takes a computer and looks inside it how neatly
it is designed and also comes with software and all the
programs necessary for it's particular function fully
functioning in all its glory, would you ask where the
human who made it can be found? You wouldn't even
assume that it wasn't a designer of it somewhere.


So who designed your god?


None of them will answer my questions either. If their
god could create a whole Universe how come he couldn't
write his own scrolls? Why did he need humans to do it
for him? --


Ok, that would be easy, he'd just need a monumental pen
(or feather or whatever they used back then) and that
would be so much easier? I think not.


Those last three words pretty much define you and your ilk,
don't they?


it was kind of a joke which went over your head. If he wrote
the bible himself in 10 seconds, would anybody believe in it
more? no, but he connects with humans in what he did, that's
one important factor that you missed.


Dude...the Bible is some of the worst and worngest fiction
ever set to paper--/and/ it's just about the most IMmoral
document ever authored. I mean, come on! An all-loving
superdude who plays Jedi mind tricks on a hapless victim just
to give himself an excuse to murder hundreds of thousands of
describedly-innocent children? Infinite torture for 99% of
humanity for failing to give his son a good enough rim
job? And that's not to mention all the God-ordered genocides,
mass rapes, cannibalism, infanticides, slavery, and more.


So? you're an ancestor from some apes because of this?


No, I /am/ an ape, and the Bible has *****-all to do with it.

You're an ape, too. Deal.


right, it's all apes now, the computer, the desk, you, me, God
stems from apes to,right?


An ape, colloquially speaking, is a tailless primate. Do you have
a tail?

not last time I checked.


I mean, it's as much evidence for that as for humans decending
from apes, so why not? Evolutionists believe anything they
like! I really admire their fantasy ability!


Says the gullible idiot who believes in talking snakes and that
little green men have nothing better to do after a bazillion-mile
trip than to trample wheat.

they dont trample it, if they do something it's invisible (or with an ascending fog
so some whitnesses says).


Do you know what makes me laugh my ***** off about you
creationists? Let me share it with you. It's that you
have the blind, unthinking gall to claim (without a shred
of published science to support you) that your god is
magnificent and only he could have "designed" nature,
then you turn right around and give de facto admission
after admission that he's the most incompetent, hamfisted,
brain-dead, clueless designer ever to create.


brain-dead? He designed the brain, that makes him a rocket
scientist in my eyes.


And you typed that with a straight face? Rocket scientists
doing biochemical engineering?


If you don't know the term 'rocket scientist' as an ironic
speaking of a very clever person, then I'm sorry for you.


You mix metaphors with the consummate skill of the village
idiot.


EVerybody knows about the rocketscientist metaphor, err.


Yes. And everybody with even a modicum of rhetorical skill in the
English language knows better than to apply it so inelegantly.

Why can't God be a rocketscientist? Mice is bats all of a sudden to you fellas.


Your message here is a case in point. Humans erected the
pyramids. Around the same time as the Great pyramid was
constructed, primitive humans (even by Egyptian standards)
erected Stonehenge.


*clap clap* That proves God's inexistance? Nobody knows how
those stones where put there,


<sigh>

The weren't ``put'' /anywhere./ They simply /are./


watev


May I quote you the next time that you claim that your
invisible hairy sky ape with buttocks simply is that he is?


deep,!


``watev''

f. off, that is MY term.


neither does scientists believe that some of the most
advanced crop circles are made by man (what ever that
implies).


It implies that you're an illogical fuckwit who'll swallow
whatever some fast-talking con artist shoves down your
throat. The crop circles have been so well demonstrated to be
public guerrilla art (including the artists's own statements)
that it's not even funny.


I thought so too, definetely made by humans, with some rope
and wooden pieces. Then I saw this program, and I know one
shouldn't believe in ***** on TV


But you do. And you believe it with all the wide-eyed sincerity
of any mark at the carnival or any sinner in a revival tent.


you are good with metaphores for not understanding the
rocketscientist thing, I must say. I almost didn't watch that TV
program thinking oh no those stupid crop circle fantast, but I
was glued to the screen after 10 minutes. You can mail one
professor and ask him what he means when he believe they are
real: Fred Fingler-university professor.


Google knows of no ``Fred Fingler'' who is a university professor.

Really? maybe he isnt horny for attention, but he was on the fucking TV show.


If you don't want it made painfully clear just how you go about
making ***** up, tell us all exactly what university employs this
``Fred Fingler,'' what he's a professor of, and what department
he's in.

Yeah, like I went and make up a dude called Fred Fingler. I don't remember the
freaking university, I didn't sit there and take notes. It was a Norwegianproduced
documentary from 2006 that it took 3 years to make. The croppatterns are
sometimes several hundred meters in diametres, and we are sure that many of
them is not made by humans. Extensiv research and
innumerous eyewitnessobservations confirms this (note from the program information).
There is a blog on the channel with pages upon pagers of posts of amasing viewers,
but it's in Norwegian...
http://www.tvnorge.no/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3337&sid=6cafcc17615a31e35ec1771b60ef13be
some of them are extremely advanced, like this one:
http://www.kornsirkler.org/KS-2002.07.18-WiltshireUK-LG.jpg
(made by woodenpieces and some rope? uuuh, think not)
and this one appeared on a soaking wet crop field without a footstep or anything:
http://www.kornsirkler.org/KS-2001.08.13-MilkHillUK-LG.jpg
(that one is well documented, amongst others). So they can't make it from the ground
but need special equipment from air or something. 70-80 is formed every year, with hundreds
of curious eyes that would've witnessed people doing it if it was poeple doing it.
more pics, judge for yourself:
http://www.kornsirkler.org/
http://home.clara.net/lucypringle


We have an honorary title 'round these here parts for people like
you who mistrake their academic fantasies for reality: ``Asshat.''

Like there's any difference.

Hey--I can let you in on a great deal on some beachfront
property here in Arizona. Only $50 an acre--you can't beat
that! Just let me know and I'll email you a copy of the deed,
and then we can discuss how you can get the cash to me.


Lol, yeah, I'd like me som American soil in fact.


I'd be delighted to sell you some choice American land. If you're
serious, let's talk.

Yeah like i'd send you money.
Saba

Cheers,

b&

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BAAWA Knight of Blasphemy
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User: "Ben Goren"

Title: Re: Creation Challenge: Where is Positive Scientific Evidence forID? 20 Apr 2006 04:36:41 PM
¬Saba Gracile¬ wrote:

Ben Goren wrote:

¬Saba Gracile¬ wrote:

Ben Goren wrote:

¬Saba Gracile¬ wrote:

Ben Goren wrote:

Budikka666 wrote:

¬ Saba Gracile¬ wrote:

My 2 ¢ wrote:

Ben Goren wrote:

¬ Saba Gracile¬ wrote:

If one takes a computer and looks inside it how
neatly it is designed and also comes with software
and all the programs necessary for it's particular
function fully functioning in all its glory, would
you ask where the human who made it can be found? You
wouldn't even assume that it wasn't a designer of it
somewhere.


So who designed your god?


None of them will answer my questions either. If their
god could create a whole Universe how come he couldn't
write his own scrolls? Why did he need humans to do it
for him? --


Ok, that would be easy, he'd just need a monumental pen
(or feather or whatever they used back then) and that
would be so much easier? I think not.


Those last three words pretty much define you and your
ilk, don't they?


it was kind of a joke which went over your head. If he
wrote the bible himself in 10 seconds, would anybody
believe in it more? no, but he connects with humans in
what he did, that's one important factor that you missed.


Dude...the Bible is some of the worst and worngest fiction
ever set to paper--/and/ it's just about the most IMmoral
document ever authored. I mean, come on! An all-loving
superdude who plays Jedi mind tricks on a hapless victim
just to give himself an excuse to murder hundreds
of thousands of describedly-innocent children? Infinite
torture for 99% of humanity for failing to give his
son a good enough rim job? And that's not to mention
all the God-ordered genocides, mass rapes, cannibalism,
infanticides, slavery, and more.


So? you're an ancestor from some apes because of this?


No, I /am/ an ape, and the Bible has *****-all to do with it.

You're an ape, too. Deal.


right, it's all apes now, the computer, the desk, you, me, God
stems from apes to,right?


An ape, colloquially speaking, is a tailless primate. Do you
have a tail?


not last time I checked.

Then you're clearly not a monkey, and therefore unquestionably an
ape.

I mean, it's as much evidence for that as for humans decending
from apes, so why not? Evolutionists believe anything they
like! I really admire their fantasy ability!


Says the gullible idiot who believes in talking snakes and
that little green men have nothing better to do after a
bazillion-mile trip than to trample wheat.


they dont trample it, if they do something it's invisible (or
with an ascending fog so some whitnesses says).

Unh-huh. And we don't see Santa's workshop at the North Pole
because it's invisible (or always surrounded by an impenetrable
fog, so some witless Asshats say).

Do you know what makes me laugh my ***** off about you
creationists? Let me share it with you. It's that you
have the blind, unthinking gall to claim (without a
shred of published science to support you) that your
god is magnificent and only he could have "designed"
nature, then you turn right around and give de facto
admission after admission that he's the most incompetent,
hamfisted, brain-dead, clueless designer ever to create.


brain-dead? He designed the brain, that makes him a rocket
scientist in my eyes.


And you typed that with a straight face? Rocket scientists
doing biochemical engineering?


If you don't know the term 'rocket scientist' as an ironic
speaking of a very clever person, then I'm sorry for you.


You mix metaphors with the consummate skill of the village
idiot.


EVerybody knows about the rocketscientist metaphor, err.


Yes. And everybody with even a modicum of rhetorical skill
in the English language knows better than to apply it so
inelegantly.


Why can't God be a rocketscientist?

Because rocket scientists exist, and they, well, build
rockets. I've spoken with some, including people who built parts
of the Mars rovers. They're /certainly/ not gods. No god has
every built /any/ rocket of any description. Ever.

Mice is bats all of a sudden to you fellas.

Close cousins, certainly. Just like humans and marmosets are both
primates--but one is an ape and another a monkey.

Your message here is a case in point. Humans erected the
pyramids. Around the same time as the Great pyramid
was constructed, primitive humans (even by Egyptian
standards) erected Stonehenge.


*clap clap* That proves God's inexistance? Nobody knows
how those stones where put there,


<sigh>

The weren't ``put'' /anywhere./ They simply /are./


watev


May I quote you the next time that you claim that your
invisible hairy sky ape with buttocks simply is that he is?


deep,!


``watev''


f. off, that is MY term.

watev

neither does scientists believe that some of the most
advanced crop circles are made by man (what ever that
implies).


It implies that you're an illogical fuckwit who'll swallow
whatever some fast-talking con artist shoves down your
throat. The crop circles have been so well demonstrated to
be public guerrilla art (including the artists's own
statements) that it's not even funny.


I thought so too, definetely made by humans, with some rope
and wooden pieces. Then I saw this program, and I know one
shouldn't believe in ***** on TV


But you do. And you believe it with all the wide-eyed
sincerity of any mark at the carnival or any sinner in a
revival tent.


you are good with metaphores for not understanding the
rocketscientist thing, I must say. I almost didn't watch that
TV program thinking oh no those stupid crop circle fantast,
but I was glued to the screen after 10 minutes. You can mail
one professor and ask him what he means when he believe they
are real: Fred Fingler-university professor.


Google knows of no ``Fred Fingler'' who is a university
professor.


Really? maybe he isnt horny for attention, but he was on the
fucking TV show.

Let's see. He's so horny for attention that he was the star of a
TV science fantasy mocumentary, but he cares so little for
attention that he had his university remove all mentions of him
from their Web site?
Can't you even /pretend/ to be logically consistent?

If you don't want it made painfully clear just how you go about
making ***** up, tell us all exactly what university employs
this ``Fred Fingler,'' what he's a professor of, and what
department he's in.


Yeah, like I went and make up a dude called Fred Fingler. I
don't remember the freaking university, I didn't sit there and
take notes.

So, based upon the hearsay testimony of somebody who believes in
talking snakes and men walking on water, I'm supposed to believe
that a professor whom literally nobody else has ever heard of
at some unnameable university is to be trusted when he says
that space faeries are responsible for well-documented works of
guerrilla public art?
http://www.circlemakers.org
How can you be so fucking stupid as to buy into this *****, man?

It was a Norwegianproduced documentary from 2006 that it
took 3 years to make. The croppatterns are sometimes several
hundred meters in diametres, and we are sure that many of
them is not made by humans. Extensiv research and innumerous
eyewitnessobservations confirms this (note from the program
information). There is a blog on the channel with pages upon
pagers of posts of amasing viewers, but it's in Norwegian...


http://www.tvnorge.no/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3337&sid=6cafcc17615a31e35ec1771b60ef13be
That blog has not one mention of any Fred, let alone a Fred
Fingler. I don't read Norwegian, and I'm not interested in wasting
any more time proving your asshatery.

some of them are extremely advanced, like this one:

http://www.kornsirkler.org/KS-2002.07.18-WiltshireUK-LG.jpg

(made by woodenpieces and some rope?

Yup. See here:
http://www.circlemakers.org/totc2002.html

uuuh, think not)

Big surprise. You've clearly demonstrated yourself incapable of
thought.
Cheers,
b&
--
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BAAWA Knight of Blasphemy
``All but God can prove this sentence true.''
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User: "-¬Saba Gracile-¬"

Title: Re: Creation Challenge: Where is Positive Scientific Evidence for ID? 22 Apr 2006 05:30:20 AM
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¬Saba Gracile¬ wrote:

Ben Goren wrote:

¬Saba Gracile¬ wrote:

Ben Goren wrote:

¬Saba Gracile¬ wrote:

Ben Goren wrote:

Budikka666 wrote:

¬ Saba Gracile¬ wrote:

My 2 ¢ wrote:

Ben Goren wrote:

¬ Saba Gracile¬ wrote:

If one takes a computer and looks inside it how
neatly it is designed and also comes with software
and all the programs necessary for it's particular
function fully functioning in all its glory, would
you ask where the human who made it can be found? You
wouldn't even assume that it wasn't a designer of it
somewhere.


So who designed your god?


None of them will answer my questions either. If their
god could create a whole Universe how come he couldn't
write his own scrolls? Why did he need humans to do it
for him? --


Ok, that would be easy, he'd just need a monumental pen
(or feather or whatever they used back then) and that
would be so much easier? I think not.


Those last three words pretty much define you and your
ilk, don't they?


it was kind of a joke which went over your head. If he
wrote the bible himself in 10 seconds, would anybody
believe in it more? no, but he connects with humans in
what he did, that's one important factor that you missed.


Dude...the Bible is some of the worst and worngest fiction
ever set to paper--/and/ it's just about the most IMmoral
document ever authored. I mean, come on! An all-loving
superdude who plays Jedi mind tricks on a hapless victim
just to give himself an excuse to murder hundreds
of thousands of describedly-innocent children? Infinite
torture for 99% of humanity for failing to give his
son a good enough rim job? And that's not to mention
all the God-ordered genocides, mass rapes, cannibalism,
infanticides, slavery, and more.


So? you're an ancestor from some apes because of this?


No, I /am/ an ape, and the Bible has *****-all to do with it.

You're an ape, too. Deal.


right, it's all apes now, the computer, the desk, you, me, God
stems from apes to,right?


An ape, colloquially speaking, is a tailless primate. Do you
have a tail?


not last time I checked.


Then you're clearly not a monkey, and therefore unquestionably an
ape.

I mean, it's as much evidence for that as for humans decending
from apes, so why not? Evolutionists believe anything they
like! I really admire their fantasy ability!


Says the gullible idiot who believes in talking snakes and
that little green men have nothing better to do after a
bazillion-mile trip than to trample wheat.


they dont trample it, if they do something it's invisible (or
with an ascending fog so some whitnesses says).


Unh-huh. And we don't see Santa's workshop at the North Pole
because it's invisible (or always surrounded by an impenetrable
fog, so some witless Asshats say).

Do you know what makes me laugh my ***** off about you
creationists? Let me share it with you. It's that you
have the blind, unthinking gall to claim (without a
shred of published science to support you) that your
god is magnificent and only he could have "designed"
nature, then you turn right around and give de facto
admission after admission that he's the most incompetent,
hamfisted, brain-dead, clueless designer ever to create.


brain-dead? He designed the brain, that makes him a rocket
scientist in my eyes.


And you typed that with a straight face? Rocket scientists
doing biochemical engineering?


If you don't know the term 'rocket scientist' as an ironic
speaking of a very clever person, then I'm sorry for you.


You mix metaphors with the consummate skill of the village
idiot.


EVerybody knows about the rocketscientist metaphor, err.


Yes. And everybody with even a modicum of rhetorical skill
in the English language knows better than to apply it so
inelegantly.


Why can't God be a rocketscientist?


Because rocket scientists exist, and they, well, build
rockets. I've spoken with some, including people who built parts
of the Mars rovers. They're /certainly/ not gods. No god has
every built /any/ rocket of any description. Ever.

Mice is bats all of a sudden to you fellas.


Close cousins, certainly. Just like humans and marmosets are both
primates--but one is an ape and another a monkey.

Your message here is a case in point. Humans erected the
pyramids. Around the same time as the Great pyramid
was constructed, primitive humans (even by Egyptian
standards) erected Stonehenge.


*clap clap* That proves God's inexistance? Nobody knows
how those stones where put there,


<sigh>

The weren't ``put'' /anywhere./ They simply /are./


watev


May I quote you the next time that you claim that your
invisible hairy sky ape with buttocks simply is that he is?


deep,!


``watev''


f. off, that is MY term.


watev

neither does scientists believe that some of the most
advanced crop circles are made by man (what ever that
implies).


It implies that you're an illogical fuckwit who'll swallow
whatever some fast-talking con artist shoves down your
throat. The crop circles have been so well demonstrated to
be public guerrilla art (including the artists's own
statements) that it's not even funny.


I thought so too, definetely made by humans, with some rope
and wooden pieces. Then I saw this program, and I know one
shouldn't believe in ***** on TV


But you do. And you believe it with all the wide-eyed
sincerity of any mark at the carnival or any sinner in a
revival tent.


you are good with metaphores for not understanding the
rocketscientist thing, I must say. I almost didn't watch that
TV program thinking oh no those stupid crop circle fantast,
but I was glued to the screen after 10 minutes. You can mail
one professor and ask him what he means when he believe they
are real: Fred Fingler-university professor.


Google knows of no ``Fred Fingler'' who is a university
professor.


Really? maybe he isnt horny for attention, but he was on the
fucking TV show.


Let's see. He's so horny for attention that he was the star of a
TV science fantasy mocumentary, but he cares so little for
attention that he had his university remove all mentions of him
from their Web site?

Can't you even /pretend/ to be logically consistent?

There were many people on it, other scientists were interviewed, and some
computergeeks as well. I think the progr. will air again and I'll write down
all their names. That tv program won a documentary in US, Nevada, so it
couldn't have been bad.


If you don't want it made painfully clear just how you go about
making ***** up, tell us all exactly what university employs
this ``Fred Fingler,'' what he's a professor of, and what
department he's in.


Yeah, like I went and make up a dude called Fred Fingler. I
don't remember the freaking university, I didn't sit there and
take notes.


So, based upon the hearsay testimony of somebody who believes in
talking snakes and men walking on water, I'm supposed to believe
that a professor whom literally nobody else has ever heard of
at some unnameable university is to be trusted when he says
that space faeries are responsible for well-documented works of
guerrilla public art?

Deny everything, I do too, it's very healthy. But you are just bound to
be laughed at when there will show to be more than we thought out there,
but that we didn't have the tools to see it. Like 200y.ago compared to today.
so be a stubborn ape (who're your closest family).


http://www.circlemakers.org

How can you be so fucking stupid as to buy into this *****, man?

there's other stuff, but hell, you buy into everything being transitional but
there's NO transitions (exept make-believe ones, that were also shown to be
their own creatures in their very own right). Now that is a hell of a belief.


It was a Norwegianproduced documentary from 2006 that it
took 3 years to make. The croppatterns are sometimes several
hundred meters in diametres, and we are sure that many of
them is not made by humans. Extensiv research and innumerous
eyewitnessobservations confirms this (note from the program
information). There is a blog on the channel with pages upon
pagers of posts of amasing viewers, but it's in Norwegian...


http://www.tvnorge.no/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3337&sid=6cafcc17615a31e35ec1771b60ef13be

That blog has not one mention of any Fred, let alone a Fred
Fingler. I don't read Norwegian, and I'm not interested in wasting
any more time proving your asshatery.

I will get ALL their names I said. Happy?


some of them are extremely advanced, like this one:

http://www.kornsirkler.org/KS-2002.07.18-WiltshireUK-LG.jpg

(made by woodenpieces and some rope?


Yup. See here:

http://www.circlemakers.org/totc2002.html

uuuh, think not)

I KNOW many are made by men, of course, but some are inexplainable, didn't you
see my post (up there somewhere). why is the military obsessed with them if they're
made by humans? The documentary shows military helicopters flying over them many
times over!?
And, the whole documentary can be bought, if you want. But you are a snot head, and
won't see facts.


Big surprise. You've clearly demonstrated yourself incapable of
thought.

ehh..
S

Cheers,

b&

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EAC Memographer
BAAWA Knight of Blasphemy
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User: "Budikka666"

Title: Saba Gracile Has No Science to Offer 22 Apr 2006 06:54:53 AM
-=ACSaba Gracile-=AC wrote:

There were many people on it, other scientists were interviewed, and some
computergeeks as well. I think the progr. will air again and I'll write =

down

all their names. That tv program won a documentary in US, Nevada, so it
couldn't have been bad.

Science isn't done on TV. Science is done in the lab, in the field,
and in the minds of brilliant people the world over. The results of
their hard work are published in professional science journals. This
has been going on for 150 years since Darwin's seminal work. The
Theory of Evolution has passed every test to which it has been put. It
is supported by the world-wide work of people of all faiths.
Now address the issues. Are those Christians who accept evolution
because of the weight of the evidence all liars and fools? Are they?
What is it that makes them so bad and you so much better? Your
modesty?
Answer *these* issues before you demand I address anything else from
you.
Budikka
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