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"Budikka" |
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14 Nov 2003 07:23:21 PM |
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Another Tool For Evolution? |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/48100.stm
and
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3264467.stm
reveal the phenomenon of the chimera - a human being composed not only
of their own body cells, but also of those of another individual.
It's fascinating to speculate what kind of tools an event like this
would place in the hands of evolution.
and then there's the one about the boy who was pregnant with his twin
brother:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2987963.stm
Budikka
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| User: "Bill, The Avender" |
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| Title: Re: Another Tool For Evolution? |
14 Nov 2003 11:11:47 PM |
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In alt.atheism on 14 Nov 2003 17:23:21 -0800,
(Budikka) wrote:
<snip>
<<chimera>> <<parasitic twin>> <<etc...>> <<etc...>> <<etc...>>
<fundicap>
woW GAWD sher WeRk's in MUH'stearIUS wEihGs, pa-rAIZ thuh
LAW-ur-D-uH!!!!!!
</fundicap>
Ouch. Seriously, I doubt very much that fundies are even going to
_try_ explaining how *this* one relates to their religion. They'll
probably just praise their Gawd(TM) and proclaim it a "miracle" and
"proof," ignoring the question of _why_ they think it's something an
omnipotent being would deliberately do.
Oh, crap, wait. I think I might be incorrect. I've just thought of
one fundie angle: Eve was Adam's "parasitic (though clearly
fraternal) twin" - Gawd(TM) put her in Adam's chest in a space no
bigger than a rib, and when Adam decided he wanted someone, Gawd(TM)
left the twin fully emerge. Naturally, proof that even males can have
other humans form inside them will be translated as proof that eve was
really formed inside Adam's rib and that therefore their version of
Gawd(TM) and their version only is the "One(TM) True(TM)
Path(TM)"(TM).
*Sigh*...
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L8r,
Bill, the Avender
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Another Tool For Evolution? |
15 Nov 2003 02:51:46 AM |
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In article <e1e30450.0311141723.2782c5c8@posting.google.com>,
(Budikka) wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/48100.stm
and
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3264467.stm
reveal the phenomenon of the chimera - a human being composed not only
of their own body cells, but also of those of another individual.
It's fascinating to speculate what kind of tools an event like this
would place in the hands of evolution.
and then there's the one about the boy who was pregnant with his twin
brother:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2987963.stm
Fascinating indeed.
Budikka
--
John Hachmann, aa #1782
- Question authority. Now more than ever. -
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| User: "Levy Oates" |
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| Title: Re: Another Tool For Evolution? |
15 Nov 2003 12:14:28 AM |
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On 14 Nov 2003 17:23:21 -0800, (Budikka) wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/48100.stm
and
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3264467.stm
reveal the phenomenon of the chimera - a human being composed not only
of their own body cells, but also of those of another individual.
It's fascinating to speculate what kind of tools an event like this
would place in the hands of evolution.
and then there's the one about the boy who was pregnant with his twin
brother:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2987963.stm
Budikka
Fascinating. Couple of years ago I read a novel called" The Troublesome
Offspring of Cardinal Guzman" by Louis de Bernieres which involved a story very
similar to the last one above, and which I dimissed as a literary device at the
time. I'm going to have to be more open minded in future.
I wonder what the catholic church would say about the soul of a chimera. After
all, they claim that the soul is created at the point of conception. Clearly
there have been two fertilised eggs here which have resulted in only one
conscious human.
---------
Archdeacom Levy Oates
On behalf of the Prophet Eric Peabody (pbuh)
Basingstoke, England
http://www.angelfire.com/alt/bumblism/
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Another Tool For Evolution? |
19 Nov 2003 12:15:51 PM |
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On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 06:14:28 +0000, Levy Oates <levy_oates@hotmail.com>,
Message ID: <0kgbrv40q4nkacebcrjet907f4cce42g62@4ax.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
On 14 Nov 2003 17:23:21 -0800, (Budikka) wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/48100.stm
and
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3264467.stm
reveal the phenomenon of the chimera - a human being composed not only
of their own body cells, but also of those of another individual.
It's fascinating to speculate what kind of tools an event like this
would place in the hands of evolution.
and then there's the one about the boy who was pregnant with his twin
brother:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2987963.stm
Budikka
Fascinating. Couple of years ago I read a novel called" The Troublesome
Offspring of Cardinal Guzman" by Louis de Bernieres which involved a story very
similar to the last one above, and which I dimissed as a literary device at the
time. I'm going to have to be more open minded in future.
I wonder what the catholic church would say about the soul of a chimera. After
all, they claim that the soul is created at the point of conception. Clearly
there have been two fertilised eggs here which have resulted in only one
conscious human.
Such means the result is twice as holy as the Pope.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Another Tool For Evolution? |
19 Nov 2003 12:14:44 PM |
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On 14 Nov 2003 17:23:21 -0800, (Budikka), Message
ID: <e1e30450.0311141723.2782c5c8@posting.google.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/48100.stm
and
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3264467.stm
reveal the phenomenon of the chimera - a human being composed not only
of their own body cells, but also of those of another individual.
It's fascinating to speculate what kind of tools an event like this
would place in the hands of evolution.
and then there's the one about the boy who was pregnant with his twin
brother:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2987963.stm
Budikka
That's some wild stuff!
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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