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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Barry OGrady"
Date: 17 Jul 2004 05:10:05 AM
Object: Answers sought
Imagine a country with a dictator.
The dictator has huge reserves of money and resources to allow his countrymen to have
the very best of everything, yet they suffer from starvation, disease, and wars.
What would you say about such a dictator?
The dictator claims that he gave one of his countrymen a test, and because that one
person failed the test the dictator feels justified in letting everybody suffer.
What would you say about such a dictator?
The dictator claims that his countrymen all chose to suffer.
What would you say about such a dictator?
The dictator claims that he values free will so much that he will not interfere by helping
his people.
What would you say about such a dictator?
-Barry
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User: "Therion Ware"

Title: Re: Answers sought 17 Jul 2004 05:26:44 AM
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 20:10:05 +1000 in alt.atheism, Barry OGrady
(Barry OGrady <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com>) said, directing the reply
to alt.atheism

Imagine a country with a dictator.

Ok.

The dictator has huge reserves of money and resources to allow his countrymen to have
the very best of everything, yet they suffer from starvation, disease, and wars.
What would you say about such a dictator?

Viva the revolution.

The dictator claims that he gave one of his countrymen a test, and because that one
person failed the test the dictator feels justified in letting everybody suffer.
What would you say about such a dictator?

Viva the revolution.

The dictator claims that his countrymen all chose to suffer.
What would you say about such a dictator?

Viva the revolution.

The dictator claims that he values free will so much that he will not interfere by helping
his people.
What would you say about such a dictator?

Come the revolution .....
--
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- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
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User: "raven1"

Title: Re: Answers sought 17 Jul 2004 10:54:49 AM
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 11:26:44 +0100, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:



On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 20:10:05 +1000 in alt.atheism, Barry OGrady
(Barry OGrady <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com>) said, directing the reply
to alt.atheism



Imagine a country with a dictator.


Ok.

The dictator has huge reserves of money and resources to allow his countrymen to have
the very best of everything, yet they suffer from starvation, disease, and wars.
What would you say about such a dictator?


Viva the revolution.

The dictator claims that he gave one of his countrymen a test, and because that one
person failed the test the dictator feels justified in letting everybody suffer.
What would you say about such a dictator?


Viva the revolution.

The dictator claims that his countrymen all chose to suffer.
What would you say about such a dictator?


Viva the revolution.

The dictator claims that he values free will so much that he will not interfere by helping
his people.
What would you say about such a dictator?


Come the revolution .....

Hasta la Victoria siempre!
.

User: "Barry OGrady"

Title: Re: Answers sought 18 Jul 2004 07:04:41 PM
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 11:26:44 +0100, Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:



On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 20:10:05 +1000 in alt.atheism, Barry OGrady
(Barry OGrady <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com>) said, directing the reply
to alt.atheism



Imagine a country with a dictator.


Ok.

The dictator has huge reserves of money and resources to allow his countrymen to have
the very best of everything, yet they suffer from starvation, disease, and wars.
What would you say about such a dictator?


Viva the revolution.

The dictator claims that he gave one of his countrymen a test, and because that one
person failed the test the dictator feels justified in letting everybody suffer.
What would you say about such a dictator?


Viva the revolution.

The dictator claims that his countrymen all chose to suffer.
What would you say about such a dictator?


Viva the revolution.

The dictator claims that he values free will so much that he will not interfere by helping
his people.
What would you say about such a dictator?


Come the revolution .....

Its a parody of God but since we can't revolt against God should we revolt against Christianity?

--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
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User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Answers sought 21 Jul 2004 02:38:26 PM
On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:04:41 +1000, Barry OGrady wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 11:26:44 +0100, Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:



On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 20:10:05 +1000 in alt.atheism, Barry OGrady
(Barry OGrady <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com>) said, directing the reply
to alt.atheism



Imagine a country with a dictator.


Ok.

The dictator has huge reserves of money and resources to allow his countrymen to have
the very best of everything, yet they suffer from starvation, disease, and wars.
What would you say about such a dictator?


Viva the revolution.

The dictator claims that he gave one of his countrymen a test, and because that one
person failed the test the dictator feels justified in letting everybody suffer.
What would you say about such a dictator?


Viva the revolution.

The dictator claims that his countrymen all chose to suffer.
What would you say about such a dictator?


Viva the revolution.

The dictator claims that he values free will so much that he will not interfere by helping
his people.
What would you say about such a dictator?


Come the revolution .....


Its a parody of God but since we can't revolt against God should we revolt against Christianity?

Why bother? Christianity's revolting enough all by itself.
.
User: "Barry OGrady"

Title: Re: Answers sought 21 Jul 2004 11:09:53 PM
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:38:26 -0700, "stoney" <stoney@localhost.localdomain> wrote:

On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:04:41 +1000, Barry OGrady wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 11:26:44 +0100, Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:



On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 20:10:05 +1000 in alt.atheism, Barry OGrady
(Barry OGrady <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com>) said, directing the reply
to alt.atheism



Imagine a country with a dictator.


Ok.

The dictator has huge reserves of money and resources to allow his countrymen to have
the very best of everything, yet they suffer from starvation, disease, and wars.
What would you say about such a dictator?


Viva the revolution.

The dictator claims that he gave one of his countrymen a test, and because that one
person failed the test the dictator feels justified in letting everybody suffer.
What would you say about such a dictator?


Viva the revolution.

The dictator claims that his countrymen all chose to suffer.
What would you say about such a dictator?


Viva the revolution.

The dictator claims that he values free will so much that he will not interfere by helping
his people.
What would you say about such a dictator?


Come the revolution .....


Its a parody of God but since we can't revolt against God should we revolt against Christianity?


Why bother? Christianity's revolting enough all by itself.

Boom boom!
-Barry
========
Web page: http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Answers sought 22 Jul 2004 05:16:31 PM
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 14:09:53 +1000, Barry OGrady wrote:

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:38:26 -0700, "stoney" <stoney@localhost.localdomain> wrote:

On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:04:41 +1000, Barry OGrady wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 11:26:44 +0100, Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:



On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 20:10:05 +1000 in alt.atheism, Barry OGrady
(Barry OGrady <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com>) said, directing the reply
to alt.atheism



Imagine a country with a dictator.


Ok.

The dictator has huge reserves of money and resources to allow his countrymen to have
the very best of everything, yet they suffer from starvation, disease, and wars.
What would you say about such a dictator?


Viva the revolution.

The dictator claims that he gave one of his countrymen a test, and because that one
person failed the test the dictator feels justified in letting everybody suffer.
What would you say about such a dictator?


Viva the revolution.

The dictator claims that his countrymen all chose to suffer.
What would you say about such a dictator?


Viva the revolution.

The dictator claims that he values free will so much that he will not interfere by helping
his people.
What would you say about such a dictator?


Come the revolution .....


Its a parody of God but since we can't revolt against God should we revolt against Christianity?


Why bother? Christianity's revolting enough all by itself.


Boom boom!

ACK! I've been shot!
.





User: "Woden wodencharternet"

Title: Re: Answers sought 17 Jul 2004 06:54:54 AM
Barry OGrady <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:snuhf0h12f7tq0jh3ee2357queepc2nfo1@4ax.com:

Imagine a country with a dictator.
The dictator has huge reserves of money and resources to allow his
countrymen to have the very best of everything, yet they suffer from
starvation, disease, and wars. What would you say about such a
dictator?

The dictator claims that he gave one of his countrymen a test, and
because that one person failed the test the dictator feels justified
in letting everybody suffer. What would you say about such a dictator?

The dictator claims that his countrymen all chose to suffer.
What would you say about such a dictator?

The dictator claims that he values free will so much that he will not
interfere by helping his people.
What would you say about such a dictator?

Sounds like a GWB wet dream...
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political system for controlling people's thoughts,
lives and actions based on ancient myths and superstitions, perpetrated
through generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
.
User: "Barry OGrady"

Title: Re: Answers sought 18 Jul 2004 07:05:50 PM
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 11:54:54 -0000, Woden <wodencharternet> wrote:

Barry OGrady <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:snuhf0h12f7tq0jh3ee2357queepc2nfo1@4ax.com:

Imagine a country with a dictator.
The dictator has huge reserves of money and resources to allow his
countrymen to have the very best of everything, yet they suffer from
starvation, disease, and wars. What would you say about such a
dictator?

The dictator claims that he gave one of his countrymen a test, and
because that one person failed the test the dictator feels justified
in letting everybody suffer. What would you say about such a dictator?

The dictator claims that his countrymen all chose to suffer.
What would you say about such a dictator?

The dictator claims that he values free will so much that he will not
interfere by helping his people.
What would you say about such a dictator?



Sounds like a GWB wet dream...

Sounds like the way God treats us.

--
Woden

"religion is a socio-political system for controlling people's thoughts,
lives and actions based on ancient myths and superstitions, perpetrated
through generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."

-Barry
========
Web page: http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.
.
User: "Woden wodencharternet"

Title: Re: Answers sought 18 Jul 2004 07:27:10 PM
Barry OGrady <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:p14mf0dnv27t8vgtuj7ig68heimj2jj0d2@4ax.com:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 11:54:54 -0000, Woden <wodencharternet> wrote:

Barry OGrady <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:snuhf0h12f7tq0jh3ee2357queepc2nfo1@4ax.com:

Imagine a country with a dictator.
The dictator has huge reserves of money and resources to allow his
countrymen to have the very best of everything, yet they suffer from
starvation, disease, and wars. What would you say about such a
dictator?

The dictator claims that he gave one of his countrymen a test, and
because that one person failed the test the dictator feels justified
in letting everybody suffer. What would you say about such a
dictator?

The dictator claims that his countrymen all chose to suffer.
What would you say about such a dictator?

The dictator claims that he values free will so much that he will
not interfere by helping his people.
What would you say about such a dictator?



Sounds like a GWB wet dream...


Sounds like the way God treats us.

What god? ;)
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political system for controlling people's thoughts,
lives and actions based on ancient myths and superstitions, perpetrated
through generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
.
User: "Barry OGrady"

Title: Re: Answers sought 21 Jul 2004 08:23:37 AM
On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 00:27:10 -0000, Woden <wodencharternet> wrote:

Barry OGrady <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:p14mf0dnv27t8vgtuj7ig68heimj2jj0d2@4ax.com:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 11:54:54 -0000, Woden <wodencharternet> wrote:

Barry OGrady <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:snuhf0h12f7tq0jh3ee2357queepc2nfo1@4ax.com:

Imagine a country with a dictator.
The dictator has huge reserves of money and resources to allow his
countrymen to have the very best of everything, yet they suffer from
starvation, disease, and wars. What would you say about such a
dictator?

The dictator claims that he gave one of his countrymen a test, and
because that one person failed the test the dictator feels justified
in letting everybody suffer. What would you say about such a
dictator?

The dictator claims that his countrymen all chose to suffer.
What would you say about such a dictator?

The dictator claims that he values free will so much that he will
not interfere by helping his people.
What would you say about such a dictator?



Sounds like a GWB wet dream...


Sounds like the way God treats us.


What god? ;)

The god called God, or the god with no name.

--
Woden

-Barry
========
Web page: http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.
.
User: "Woden wodencharternet"

Title: Re: Answers sought 21 Jul 2004 10:07:50 PM
Barry OGrady <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:jirsf0tjggk39hu8bnq4n4eu13ph5m0akj@4ax.com:

On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 00:27:10 -0000, Woden <wodencharternet> wrote:

Barry OGrady <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:p14mf0dnv27t8vgtuj7ig68heimj2jj0d2@4ax.com:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 11:54:54 -0000, Woden <wodencharternet> wrote:

Barry OGrady <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:snuhf0h12f7tq0jh3ee2357queepc2nfo1@4ax.com:

Imagine a country with a dictator.
The dictator has huge reserves of money and resources to allow his
countrymen to have the very best of everything, yet they suffer

from

starvation, disease, and wars. What would you say about such a
dictator?

The dictator claims that he gave one of his countrymen a test, and
because that one person failed the test the dictator feels

justified

in letting everybody suffer. What would you say about such a
dictator?

The dictator claims that his countrymen all chose to suffer.
What would you say about such a dictator?

The dictator claims that he values free will so much that he will
not interfere by helping his people.
What would you say about such a dictator?



Sounds like a GWB wet dream...


Sounds like the way God treats us.


What god? ;)


The god called God, or the god with no name.

You mean the others ones treat us differently?
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political system for controlling people's thoughts,
lives and actions based on ancient myths and superstitions, perpetrated
through generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
.
User: "Barry OGrady"

Title: Re: Answers sought 21 Jul 2004 11:09:18 PM
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 03:07:50 -0000, Woden <wodencharternet> wrote:

Barry OGrady <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:jirsf0tjggk39hu8bnq4n4eu13ph5m0akj@4ax.com:

On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 00:27:10 -0000, Woden <wodencharternet> wrote:

Barry OGrady <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:p14mf0dnv27t8vgtuj7ig68heimj2jj0d2@4ax.com:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 11:54:54 -0000, Woden <wodencharternet> wrote:

Barry OGrady <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:snuhf0h12f7tq0jh3ee2357queepc2nfo1@4ax.com:

Imagine a country with a dictator.
The dictator has huge reserves of money and resources to allow his
countrymen to have the very best of everything, yet they suffer

from

starvation, disease, and wars. What would you say about such a
dictator?

The dictator claims that he gave one of his countrymen a test, and
because that one person failed the test the dictator feels

justified

in letting everybody suffer. What would you say about such a
dictator?

The dictator claims that his countrymen all chose to suffer.
What would you say about such a dictator?

The dictator claims that he values free will so much that he will
not interfere by helping his people.
What would you say about such a dictator?



Sounds like a GWB wet dream...


Sounds like the way God treats us.


What god? ;)


The god called God, or the god with no name.


You mean the others ones treat us differently?

They would if the Christian God would let them.


--
Woden

"religion is a socio-political system for controlling people's thoughts,
lives and actions based on ancient myths and superstitions, perpetrated
through generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."

-Barry
========
Web page: http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.
.


User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Answers sought 21 Jul 2004 02:39:33 PM
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 23:23:37 +1000, Barry OGrady wrote:

On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 00:27:10 -0000, Woden <wodencharternet> wrote:

Barry OGrady <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:p14mf0dnv27t8vgtuj7ig68heimj2jj0d2@4ax.com:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 11:54:54 -0000, Woden <wodencharternet> wrote:

Barry OGrady <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:snuhf0h12f7tq0jh3ee2357queepc2nfo1@4ax.com:

Imagine a country with a dictator.
The dictator has huge reserves of money and resources to allow his
countrymen to have the very best of everything, yet they suffer from
starvation, disease, and wars. What would you say about such a
dictator?

The dictator claims that he gave one of his countrymen a test, and
because that one person failed the test the dictator feels justified
in letting everybody suffer. What would you say about such a
dictator?

The dictator claims that his countrymen all chose to suffer.
What would you say about such a dictator?

The dictator claims that he values free will so much that he will
not interfere by helping his people.
What would you say about such a dictator?



Sounds like a GWB wet dream...


Sounds like the way God treats us.


What god? ;)


The god called God, or the god with no name.

/cue "A God With No Name" by America.
.





User: "nobody"

Title: Re: Answers sought 17 Jul 2004 06:57:37 AM
Barry OGrady <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote:

Imagine a country with a dictator.

A dictator can be wrong. A god cannot be. Try again.
.
User: "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"

Title: Re: Answers sought 17 Jul 2004 11:27:31 AM
"nobody" <nobody@here.com> wrote in message
news:r85if0lio23qsu4qb20g5i18odthb7db0k@4ax.com...

Barry OGrady <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote:

Imagine a country with a dictator.


A dictator can be wrong. A god cannot be. Try again.

He has done a lot of repenting for someone that cannot
be wrong.
Gen.6:6
"And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved
him at his heart."
Ex.32:14
"And the Lord repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people."
Dt.32:36
"For the Lord shall judge his people, and repent himself for his servants.
1 Sam.15:11
"It repenteth me [God] that I have set up Saul to be king."
1 Sam.15:35
"The Lord repented that he had made Saul king over Israel."
2 Sam.24:16
"The Lord repented of the evil, and said to the angel that destroyed the
people, it is enough: stay now thine hand."
1 Chr.21:15
"The Lord beheld, and he repented him of the evil, and said to the angel
that destroyed, It is enough, stay now thine hand."
Jer.15:6
"I [God] am weary of repenting."
Jer.18:8
"I [God] will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them."
Jer.26:3
"That I [God]may repent me of the evil, which I purpose to do unto them."
Jer.26:13
"The Lord will repent him of the evil that he hath pronounced against you."
Jer.26:19
"The Lord repented him of the evil which he had pronounced against them."
Jer.42:10
"For I [God] repent me of the evil that I have done unto you."
Am.7:3, 6
"The Lord repented for this."
Jon.3:10
"God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them."
--
RB
aa#2187
.

User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Answers sought 17 Jul 2004 05:06:44 PM
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 11:57:37 +0000, nobody wrote:

Barry OGrady <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote:

Imagine a country with a dictator.


A dictator can be wrong. A god cannot be. Try again.

MMMMMMMMMMIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHHH.
What a mindless loser.
.

User: "raven1"

Title: Re: Answers sought 17 Jul 2004 10:30:35 AM
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 11:57:37 GMT, nobody <nobody@here.com> wrote:

Barry OGrady <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote:

Imagine a country with a dictator.


A dictator can be wrong. A god cannot be.

Why not?
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Answers sought 17 Jul 2004 06:31:08 PM
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 15:30:35 +0000 in episode
<bghif01130l8v16jo6ur1qckc76ihhmqur@4ax.com> we saw our hero raven1
<quoththeraven@nevermore.com>:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 11:57:37 GMT, nobody <nobody@here.com> wrote:

Barry OGrady <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote:

Imagine a country with a dictator.


A dictator can be wrong. A god cannot be.


Why not?

Because they can kill anybody who says they're wrong.
(Wait, that's either one...)
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------
There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels.
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User: "Barry OGrady"

Title: Re: Answers sought 18 Jul 2004 07:06:57 PM
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 11:57:37 GMT, nobody <nobody@here.com> wrote:

Barry OGrady <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote:

Imagine a country with a dictator.


A dictator can be wrong. A god cannot be. Try again.

Thank you for your admission that God mistreats his creations.
-Barry
========
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User: "jwk"

Title: Re: Answers sought 17 Jul 2004 06:36:59 PM
nobody <nobody@here.com> wrote in message news:<r85if0lio23qsu4qb20g5i18odthb7db0k@4ax.com>...

Barry OGrady <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote:

Imagine a country with a dictator.


A dictator can be wrong. A god cannot be. Try again.

If that is correct, then there is no god. Thanks.
jwk
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User: "Woden wodencharternet"

Title: Re: Answers sought 17 Jul 2004 07:11:55 AM
nobody <nobody@here.com> wrote in news:r85if0lio23qsu4qb20g5i18odthb7db0k@
4ax.com:

Barry OGrady <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote:

Imagine a country with a dictator.


A dictator can be wrong. A god cannot be. Try again.

Sure they can. If the person imagining the god creates it that way.
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political system for controlling people's thoughts,
lives and actions based on ancient myths and superstitions, perpetrated
through generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
.


User: "John M Price PhD"

Title: Re: Answers sought 17 Jul 2004 09:33:35 PM
In alt.atheism article <snuhf0h12f7tq0jh3ee2357queepc2nfo1@4ax.com> Barry OGrady <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote:
: Imagine a country with a dictator.
: The dictator has huge reserves of money and resources to allow his countrymen to have
: the very best of everything, yet they suffer from starvation, disease, and wars.
: What would you say about such a dictator?
: The dictator claims that he gave one of his countrymen a test, and because that one
: person failed the test the dictator feels justified in letting everybody suffer.
: What would you say about such a dictator?
: The dictator claims that his countrymen all chose to suffer.
: What would you say about such a dictator?
: The dictator claims that he values free will so much that he will not interfere by helping
: his people.
: What would you say about such a dictator?
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Then a man said: Speak to us of Expectations.
He then said: If a man does not see or hear the waters of the Jordan,
then he should not taste the pomegranate or ply his wares in an open
market.
If a man would not labour in the salt and rock quarries then he should
not accept of the Earth that which he refuses to give of himself.
Such a man would expect a pear of a peach tree.
Such a man would expect a stone to lay an egg.
Such a man would expect Sears to assemble a lawnmower.
- Kehlog Albran, "The Profit"
.

User: "Puck Greenman"

Title: Re: Answers sought 17 Jul 2004 08:17:24 AM
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 20:10:05 +1000, Barry OGrady
<god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> with calm deliberation, and malace
aforethought, wrote:

Imagine a country with a dictator.
The dictator has huge reserves of money and resources to allow his countrymen to have
the very best of everything, yet they suffer from starvation, disease, and wars.
What would you say about such a dictator?

The dictator claims that he gave one of his countrymen a test, and because that one
person failed the test the dictator feels justified in letting everybody suffer.
What would you say about such a dictator?

The dictator claims that his countrymen all chose to suffer.
What would you say about such a dictator?

The dictator claims that he values free will so much that he will not interfere by helping
his people.
What would you say about such a dictator?


Has no one in the country, got a hunting rifle?
Puck Greenman

#162

BAAWA Knight.

Blesed is the self righteous xtian,
for his is the sure and certain knowledge
that no matter what load of tripe he
comes out with:
God told him to say it.
.
User: "LP"

Title: Re: Answers sought 17 Jul 2004 11:33:22 PM
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 14:17:24 +0100, Puck Greenman
<puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 20:10:05 +1000, Barry OGrady
<god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> with calm deliberation, and malace
aforethought, wrote:

Imagine a country with a dictator.
The dictator has huge reserves of money and resources to allow his countrymen to have
the very best of everything, yet they suffer from starvation, disease, and wars.
What would you say about such a dictator?

The dictator claims that he gave one of his countrymen a test, and because that one
person failed the test the dictator feels justified in letting everybody suffer.
What would you say about such a dictator?

The dictator claims that his countrymen all chose to suffer.
What would you say about such a dictator?

The dictator claims that he values free will so much that he will not interfere by helping
his people.
What would you say about such a dictator?


Has no one in the country, got a hunting rifle?

He forgot to mention it.
The dictator is invisible.
.


User: "duke"

Title: Re: Answers sought 17 Jul 2004 07:13:19 AM
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 20:10:05 +1000, Barry OGrady <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote:

Imagine a country with a dictator.
The dictator has huge reserves of money and resources to allow his countrymen to have
the very best of everything, yet they suffer from starvation, disease, and wars.
What would you say about such a dictator?

Sorry, I have the wrong impression of you.

The dictator claims that he gave one of his countrymen a test, and because that one
person failed the test the dictator feels justified in letting everybody suffer.
What would you say about such a dictator?

That one person made a decision of desire to be as a dictator.

The dictator claims that his countrymen all chose to suffer.
What would you say about such a dictator?

No dictator says that.

The dictator claims that he values free will so much that he will not interfere by helping
his people.
What would you say about such a dictator?

Your will be done.
duke
*****
I have much more to tell you, but you cannot bear
it now. When he comes, the Holy Spirit will declare
to you the things that are coming. John 16:12-15.
*****
.
User: "Barry OGrady"

Title: Re: Answers sought 18 Jul 2004 07:17:36 PM
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 07:13:19 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 20:10:05 +1000, Barry OGrady <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote:

Imagine a country with a dictator.
The dictator has huge reserves of money and resources to allow his countrymen to have
the very best of everything, yet they suffer from starvation, disease, and wars.
What would you say about such a dictator?


Sorry, I have the wrong impression of you.

You thought the dictator was doing his best until you found out he has the resources to give
his countrymen the best of everything.

The dictator claims that he gave one of his countrymen a test, and because that one
person failed the test the dictator feels justified in letting everybody suffer.
What would you say about such a dictator?


That one person made a decision of desire to be as a dictator.

That doesn't excuse God from using his power for good.

The dictator claims that his countrymen all chose to suffer.
What would you say about such a dictator?


No dictator says that.

The Christian dictator God is alleged to have said that.

The dictator claims that he values free will so much that he will not interfere by helping
his people.
What would you say about such a dictator?


Your will be done.

Why?

duke
*****
I have much more to tell you, but you cannot bear
it now. When he comes, the Holy Spirit will declare
to you the things that are coming. John 16:12-15.
*****

God could have made us with all the knowledge we need built in, but instead God chooses
to play games with us.
Duke would say you will be done.
-Barry
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