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"ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" |
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11 Sep 2005 06:42:49 PM |
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Anti-Christian Pogrom in the West Bank |
Anti-Christian Pogrom in the West Bank
For years, media outlets have largely refused to report Muslim
intimidation and violence against Christians in Palestinian-controlled
areas. On Sept. 3, hundreds of armed Palestinian Muslims crying 'Allahu
Akbar' descended on the West Bank Christian city of Taibe. The mob
terrorized the community, setting sixteen homes and multiple businesses
on fire, looting valuables and destroying a statue of the Virgin Mary.
Why: A Muslim woman from their neighbouring village had had a
relationship with a Christian man from Taibe. The woman was poisoned to
death by her own family in an 'honour killing'.
(This is the Sickness that the International community has been
supporting!)
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For Zion's sake I will not be silent, and for Jerusalem's sake I will
not rest.
~ Isaiah 62:1
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| User: "Meteorite Debris" |
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| Title: Anti-Palestinian Pogom ongoing since 1948 (was: Re: Anti-Christian Pogrom in the West Bank) |
12 Sep 2005 12:17:31 AM |
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:42:49 -0400 the ET form known as ריעין
ברתון/Riain Barton<riain@zion.org.il> sent a radio signal across the
vast expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Anti-Christian Pogrom in the West Bank
Against Xian and Islamic Palestinians alike.
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Remove YOUR_SHOES before replying
apatriot #1, atheist #1417,
Chief EAC prophet
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2009
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~pk1956/
Apatriotism Yahoo Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apatriotism
Sunday: A day given over by Americans to wishing that they themselves
were dead and in Heaven, and that their neighbors were dead and in
Hell.
-Mencken
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| Title: Re: Anti-Palestinian Pogom fantasized since 1948 (was: Re: Anti-Christian Pogrom in the West Bank) |
12 Sep 2005 12:29:14 AM |
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On 11-Sep-2005, Meteorite Debris <epicurus1@YOUR_SHOESoptusnet.com.au>
wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:42:49 -0400 the ET form known as ריעין
ברתון/Riain Barton<riain@zion.org.il> sent a radio signal across the
vast expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Anti-Christian Pogrom in the West Bank
Against Xian and Islamic Palestinians alike.
Not that you can prove, of course.
Susan
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| User: "Meteorite Debris" |
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| Title: Re: Anti-Palestinian Pogom fantasized since 1948 (was: Re: Anti-Christian Pogrom in the West Bank) |
13 Sep 2005 02:34:16 AM |
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On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 00:29:14 GMT the ET form known as
flaviaR@verizon.net<flaviaR@verizon.net> sent a radio signal across
the vast expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
On 11-Sep-2005, Meteorite Debris <epicurus1@YOUR_SHOESoptusnet.com.au>
wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:42:49 -0400 the ET form known as ריעין
ברתון/Riain Barton<riain@zion.org.il> sent a radio signal across the
vast expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Anti-Christian Pogrom in the West Bank
Against Xian and Islamic Palestinians alike.
Not that you can prove, of course.
Simple history. Look at the King David Hotel. Sabra and Shintila. Look
at the Bantustanisation of the West Bank. Look at the shooting of
children throwing stones. Look at the wounded child INSIDE a school
class room during class shot by an Israeli soldier. Look at the abuse
at check points. Laughing as a pregnant mother is kept waiting in
enormous pain for 6 hours and finally dies to the laughter of the
checkpoint soldiers. It goes on and on. The last incident inspired a
female Palestinian ambulance worker to become a suicide bomber.
So many of the pro Israel apologists have convenient amnesia of
inconvenient facts.
--
Remove YOUR_SHOES before replying
apatriot #1, atheist #1417,
Chief EAC prophet
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2009
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~pk1956/
Apatriotism Yahoo Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apatriotism
Sunday: A day given over by Americans to wishing that they themselves
were dead and in Heaven, and that their neighbors were dead and in
Hell.
-Mencken
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Anti-Palestinian Pogom fantasized since 1948 (was: Re: Anti-Christian Pogrom in the West Bank) |
13 Sep 2005 08:31:43 AM |
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On 12-Sep-2005, Meteorite Debris <epicurus1@YOUR_SHOESoptusnet.com.au>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 00:29:14 GMT the ET form known as
flaviaR@verizon.net<flaviaR@verizon.net> sent a radio signal across
the vast expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
On 11-Sep-2005, Meteorite Debris <epicurus1@YOUR_SHOESoptusnet.com.au>
wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:42:49 -0400 the ET form known as ריעין
ברתון/Riain Barton<riain@zion.org.il> sent a radio signal across the
vast expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Anti-Christian Pogrom in the West Bank
Against Xian and Islamic Palestinians alike.
Not that you can prove, of course.
Simple history.
Only if by 'simple" you mean "fabricated" - and in YOUR case debunked in
other posts?
Look at the King David Hotel.
How does a military operation constitute anything like a progrom?
Sabra and Shintila.
How does a massacre by Lebanese Xians constitute an anti-Xian pogrom?
Look
at the Bantustanisation of the West Bank.
How does their refusal to actually live up to any of the peace agreements
they signed
- leading to their not getting the state they SWEAR they want consatuitute
a progrom?
(To make sure you get it: if they had ever bothered to live up to the
agreements they
had signed, they would have had an unassailable state for YEARS now. And if
they
had taken the state they were offered in 47, there would have been NONE of
this)
Look at the shooting of
children throwing stones.
How does shooting at teenagers weidling deadly weapons constitute a pogrom?
And, if this is so, then obviously there is a much worse anti-Jewish pogrom
by the
PLO, as they have done far worse to Jewish children without rocks.
Look at the wounded child INSIDE a school
class room during class shot by an Israeli soldier.
How does some isolated incident you appear to be frabicating constitute a
porgrom?
And, if you are not fabricating it, then obviousdly there is an anti-Jewish
pogrom by
the PLO,as they have done far worse to Jewish schoolchildren.
Look at the abuse
at check points.
How does a usual 6 minute wait constitute abuse, much less a pogrom?
Or did you mean the abuse of checkpoints because they normally would not
check Red Cross Ambulances - and that the PLO abused a checkpoint by
sending a loaded ambulance through?
Or did you mean all the hundreds of bombers trying to get through the
checkpoints,
some of them blowing up said checkpoints when they fail to do so?
Laughing
How does yet another fabrication on your part constitute a pogrom?
as a pregnant mother is kept waiting in
enormous pain for 6 hours and finally dies to the laughter
Repeating a lie doesn't make it true.
of the
checkpoint soldiers. It goes on and on.
yes, as I said the last time you mouthed this lie, your lies DO go on & on,
but you will always be contradicted with the facts.
The last incident inspired a
female Palestinian ambulance worker to become a suicide bomber.
You mean the one who was known to have been a "honor killing" target?
So many of the pro Israel apologists have convenient amnesia of
inconvenient facts.
Spoken like the lying hypocrite you are.
Oh, & look up pogrom in the dictionary - not that I expect you will ever be
honest in its use.
Susan
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| User: "Zeligg" |
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| Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pogrom in the West Bank |
14 Sep 2005 02:31:36 AM |
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:42:49 -0400, "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton"
<riain@zion.org.il> wrote:
Anti-Christian Pogrom in the West Bank
For years, media outlets have largely refused to report Muslim
intimidation and violence against Christians in Palestinian-controlled
areas. On Sept. 3, hundreds of armed Palestinian Muslims crying 'Allahu
Akbar' descended on the West Bank Christian city of Taibe. The mob
terrorized the community, setting sixteen homes and multiple businesses
on fire, looting valuables and destroying a statue of the Virgin Mary.
Why: A Muslim woman from their neighbouring village had had a
relationship with a Christian man from Taibe. The woman was poisoned to
death by her own family in an 'honour killing'.
(This is the Sickness that the International community has been
supporting!)
Considering how touchy you are of anyone saying anything that even
remotely sounds like a criticism of judaism, it seems you could try to
show some respect for other religions that you would have people show
yours.
Zeligg
"Prayer has no place in the public schools,
just like facts have no place in organized religion."
- Superintendent Chalmers, The Simpsons
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pogrom in the West Bank |
14 Sep 2005 03:27:24 AM |
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On 13-Sep-2005, Zeligg <zeligg@nospeedspamfactoryatall.net> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:42:49 -0400, "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton"
<riain@zion.org.il> wrote:
Anti-Christian Pogrom in the West Bank
For years, media outlets have largely refused to report Muslim
intimidation and violence against Christians in Palestinian-controlled
areas. On Sept. 3, hundreds of armed Palestinian Muslims crying 'Allahu
Akbar' descended on the West Bank Christian city of Taibe. The mob
terrorized the community, setting sixteen homes and multiple businesses
on fire, looting valuables and destroying a statue of the Virgin Mary.
Why: A Muslim woman from their neighbouring village had had a
relationship with a Christian man from Taibe. The woman was poisoned to
death by her own family in an 'honour killing'.
(This is the Sickness that the International community has been
supporting!)
Considering how touchy you are of anyone saying anything that even
remotely sounds like a criticism of judaism, it seems you could try to
show some respect for other religions that you would have people show
yours.
Um, how is pointing out that terrorists have been attacking XIans, and that
the world has stood by & done nothing, disrespectful to someone else's
religion?
Or are you saying that "honor killings" are a decent part of Islam?
Susan
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| User: "Zeligg" |
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14 Sep 2005 07:21:07 PM |
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 03:27:24 GMT, wrote:
On 13-Sep-2005, Zeligg <zeligg@nospeedspamfactoryatall.net> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:42:49 -0400, "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton"
<riain@zion.org.il> wrote:
Anti-Christian Pogrom in the West Bank
For years, media outlets have largely refused to report Muslim
intimidation and violence against Christians in Palestinian-controlled
areas. On Sept. 3, hundreds of armed Palestinian Muslims crying 'Allahu
Akbar' descended on the West Bank Christian city of Taibe. The mob
terrorized the community, setting sixteen homes and multiple businesses
on fire, looting valuables and destroying a statue of the Virgin Mary.
Why: A Muslim woman from their neighbouring village had had a
relationship with a Christian man from Taibe. The woman was poisoned to
death by her own family in an 'honour killing'.
(This is the Sickness that the International community has been
supporting!)
Considering how touchy you are of anyone saying anything that even
remotely sounds like a criticism of judaism, it seems you could try to
show some respect for other religions that you would have people show
yours.
Um, how is pointing out that terrorists have been attacking XIans, and that
the world has stood by & done nothing, disrespectful to someone else's
religion?
Unfortunately, Riain, who is supposedly quite the scholar, is not very
good with words. I didn't pick that up at all. What I got from his
statements are the same type of things the conservatives push against
homosexuals; point out a few acts by extremists and then make
generalizations against an entire group. If he was truly saying what
you say he was, that's cool. But given his little "outbursts", I have
a feeling I'm much closer to the truth then you are.
Or are you saying that "honor killings" are a decent part of Islam?
Why of course I am! Don't be an *****; what, in any thing that I've
written before, would make you think that's what I'm about? Don't
tell me you're going to start playing Riain's little game and accuse
any one who may question something he's said of bigotry against the
jews? You're not really going there are you? Because you seem
somewhat more level headed than he does. I hope I'm not wrong.
Zeligg
"Prayer has no place in the public schools,
just like facts have no place in organized religion."
- Superintendent Chalmers, The Simpsons
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pogrom in the West Bank |
15 Sep 2005 04:40:03 AM |
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On 14-Sep-2005, Zeligg <zeligg@nospeedspamfactoryatall.net> wrote:
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 03:27:24 GMT, wrote:
On 13-Sep-2005, Zeligg <zeligg@nospeedspamfactoryatall.net> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:42:49 -0400, "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton"
<riain@zion.org.il> wrote:
Anti-Christian Pogrom in the West Bank
For years, media outlets have largely refused to report Muslim
intimidation and violence against Christians in Palestinian-controlled
areas. On Sept. 3, hundreds of armed Palestinian Muslims crying
'Allahu
Akbar' descended on the West Bank Christian city of Taibe. The mob
terrorized the community, setting sixteen homes and multiple
businesses
on fire, looting valuables and destroying a statue of the Virgin Mary.
Why: A Muslim woman from their neighbouring village had had a
relationship with a Christian man from Taibe. The woman was poisoned
to
death by her own family in an 'honour killing'.
(This is the Sickness that the International community has been
supporting!)
Considering how touchy you are of anyone saying anything that even
remotely sounds like a criticism of judaism, it seems you could try to
show some respect for other religions that you would have people show
yours.
Um, how is pointing out that terrorists have been attacking XIans, and
that
the world has stood by & done nothing, disrespectful to someone else's
religion?
Unfortunately, Riain, who is supposedly quite the scholar, is not very
good with words. I didn't pick that up at all. What I got from his
statements are the same type of things the conservatives push against
homosexuals; point out a few acts by extremists and then make
generalizations against an entire group.
We all know (including Riain) that many Muslims don't consider so-
called honor killings to be right. But, where ARE these Muslims?
Yeah, I know they're scared, but you;d think that their sheer numbers
would give them courage....
If he was truly saying what
you say he was, that's cool. But given his little "outbursts", I have
a feeling I'm much closer to the truth then you are.
I doubt it.
While he does tend to come out firing all his guns at once, I ca usually
figure out what he's aiming at.
Or are you saying that "honor killings" are a decent part of Islam?
Why of course I am! Don't be an *****; what, in any thing that I've
written before, would make you think that's what I'm about? Don't
tell me you're going to start playing Riain's little game and accuse
any one who may question something he's said of bigotry against the
jews? You're not really going there are you? Because you seem
somewhat more level headed than he does. I hope I'm not wrong.
It's called a rhetorical question.
Susan
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| User: "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" |
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15 Sep 2005 04:44:29 AM |
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And Zeligg is the sock-puppet of????
<flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:DW6We.32131$vQ3.14879@trnddc08...
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: It's called a rhetorical question.
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: Susan
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| User: "Zeligg" |
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| Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pogrom in the West Bank |
16 Sep 2005 12:50:17 AM |
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 00:44:29 -0400, "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton"
<riain@zion.org.il> wrote:
And Zeligg is the sock-puppet of????
First, learn to quit top-posting, Newbie.
Second, learn to use google groups. If I'm a sock puppet, i must be
setting some kind of fucking record for longevity.
Finally, learn to quit acting like an angry ten year old.
Zeligg
"Prayer has no place in the public schools,
just like facts have no place in organized religion."
- Superintendent Chalmers, The Simpsons
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| User: "Zeligg" |
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16 Sep 2005 12:48:16 AM |
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 04:40:03 GMT, wrote:
On 14-Sep-2005, Zeligg <zeligg@nospeedspamfactoryatall.net> wrote:
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 03:27:24 GMT, wrote:
On 13-Sep-2005, Zeligg <zeligg@nospeedspamfactoryatall.net> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:42:49 -0400, "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton"
<riain@zion.org.il> wrote:
Anti-Christian Pogrom in the West Bank
For years, media outlets have largely refused to report Muslim
intimidation and violence against Christians in Palestinian-controlled
areas. On Sept. 3, hundreds of armed Palestinian Muslims crying
'Allahu
Akbar' descended on the West Bank Christian city of Taibe. The mob
terrorized the community, setting sixteen homes and multiple
businesses
on fire, looting valuables and destroying a statue of the Virgin Mary.
Why: A Muslim woman from their neighbouring village had had a
relationship with a Christian man from Taibe. The woman was poisoned
to
death by her own family in an 'honour killing'.
(This is the Sickness that the International community has been
supporting!)
Considering how touchy you are of anyone saying anything that even
remotely sounds like a criticism of judaism, it seems you could try to
show some respect for other religions that you would have people show
yours.
Um, how is pointing out that terrorists have been attacking XIans, and
that
the world has stood by & done nothing, disrespectful to someone else's
religion?
Unfortunately, Riain, who is supposedly quite the scholar, is not very
good with words. I didn't pick that up at all. What I got from his
statements are the same type of things the conservatives push against
homosexuals; point out a few acts by extremists and then make
generalizations against an entire group.
We all know (including Riain) that many Muslims don't consider so-
called honor killings to be right. But, where ARE these Muslims?
Yeah, I know they're scared, but you;d think that their sheer numbers
would give them courage....
Many of them are being good american citizens despite the fact that
they are often biased against. And really, who are you, or any of us
to judge them? The Muslems I know are all good, decent, hard working,
faithful people. I don't take them to task because they haven't come
up to me and said, "Jeez, you know, really sorry about the terrorism"
If he was truly saying what
you say he was, that's cool. But given his little "outbursts", I have
a feeling I'm much closer to the truth then you are.
I doubt it.
While he does tend to come out firing all his guns at once, I ca usually
figure out what he's aiming at.
Or are you saying that "honor killings" are a decent part of Islam?
Why of course I am! Don't be an *****; what, in any thing that I've
written before, would make you think that's what I'm about? Don't
tell me you're going to start playing Riain's little game and accuse
any one who may question something he's said of bigotry against the
jews? You're not really going there are you? Because you seem
somewhat more level headed than he does. I hope I'm not wrong.
It's called a rhetorical question.
Susan
Questioning someone's honor isn't very rhetorical, to me. I've been
posting in newsgroups for years and all it takes is a few simple
google searches to see where I stand when it coms to equality for all.
Zeligg
"Prayer has no place in the public schools,
just like facts have no place in organized religion."
- Superintendent Chalmers, The Simpsons
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| User: "The Secretary of HomIntern" |
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| Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pogrom in the West Bank |
16 Sep 2005 01:36:30 PM |
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I was busily flonking away in alt.politics.homosexuality, when The Goddess
Eris Herself suddenly made me reply to Zeligg:
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 04:40:03 GMT, wrote:
On 14-Sep-2005, Zeligg wrote:
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 03:27:24 GMT, wrote:
On 13-Sep-2005, Zeligg wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005, "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" wrote:
Anti-Christian Pogrom in the West Bank
For years, media outlets have largely refused to report Muslim
intimidation and violence against Christians in
Palestinian-controlled areas. On Sept. 3, hundreds of armed
Palestinian Muslims crying 'Allahu
Akbar' descended on the West Bank Christian city of Taibe. The mob
terrorized the community, setting sixteen homes and multiple
businesses
on fire, looting valuables and destroying a statue of the Virgin
Mary. Why: A Muslim woman from their neighbouring village had had a
relationship with a Christian man from Taibe. The woman was poisoned
to death by her own family in an 'honour killing'.
(This is the Sickness that the International community has been
supporting!)
Considering how touchy you are of anyone saying anything that even
remotely sounds like a criticism of judaism, it seems you could try
to show some respect for other religions that you would have people
show yours.
Um, how is pointing out that terrorists have been attacking XIans, and
that the world has stood by & done nothing, disrespectful to someone
else's religion?
Unfortunately, Riain, who is supposedly quite the scholar, is not very
good with words. I didn't pick that up at all. What I got from his
statements are the same type of things the conservatives push against
homosexuals; point out a few acts by extremists and then make
generalizations against an entire group.
We all know (including Riain) that many Muslims don't consider so-
called honor killings to be right. But, where ARE these Muslims?
Yeah, I know they're scared, but you;d think that their sheer numbers
would give them courage....
Many of them are being good american citizens despite the fact that
they are often biased against. And really, who are you, or any of us
to judge them? The Muslems I know are all good, decent, hard working,
faithful people. I don't take them to task because they haven't come
up to me and said, "Jeez, you know, really sorry about the terrorism"
I have to admit, I've never heard of anyone saying that sort of thing to
someone else, ever. Funny, that. You'd almost think that people tended to
regard it as being both too much and not enough, like a boat person with
sideburns.
Or are you saying that "honor killings" are a decent part of Islam?
Why of course I am! Don't be an *****; what, in any thing that I've
written before, would make you think that's what I'm about? Don't
tell me you're going to start playing Riain's little game and accuse
any one who may question something he's said of bigotry against the
jews? You're not really going there are you? Because you seem
somewhat more level headed than he does. I hope I'm not wrong.
It's called a rhetorical question.
Susan
Questioning someone's honor isn't very rhetorical, to me. I've been
posting in newsgroups for years and all it takes is a few simple
google searches to see where I stand when it coms to equality for all.
Where words are really all we have, "honour" becomes a meaningful concept.
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Hail Eris! "The personal _is_ political."
Bent Depraved N. Deviant *****-Smoker, Esq., Superfaggot
"Stupidity excuses nothing. It's only a reason...." -- Phxbrd
Economic Left/Right: -7.63 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.38
"The whining has just begun." -- John Wentzky
Killfiled by: directory; Anim8rfsk
"It's not nice to misrepresent Mother Nature."
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pogrom in the West Bank |
16 Sep 2005 01:47:52 PM |
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On 15-Sep-2005, Zeligg <zeligg@nospeedspamfactoryatall.net> wrote:
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 04:40:03 GMT, wrote:
On 14-Sep-2005, Zeligg <zeligg@nospeedspamfactoryatall.net> wrote:
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 03:27:24 GMT, wrote:
On 13-Sep-2005, Zeligg <zeligg@nospeedspamfactoryatall.net> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:42:49 -0400, "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton"
<riain@zion.org.il> wrote:
Anti-Christian Pogrom in the West Bank
For years, media outlets have largely refused to report Muslim
intimidation and violence against Christians in
Palestinian-controlled
areas. On Sept. 3, hundreds of armed Palestinian Muslims crying
'Allahu
Akbar' descended on the West Bank Christian city of Taibe. The mob
terrorized the community, setting sixteen homes and multiple
businesses
on fire, looting valuables and destroying a statue of the Virgin
Mary.
Why: A Muslim woman from their neighbouring village had had a
relationship with a Christian man from Taibe. The woman was
poisoned
to
death by her own family in an 'honour killing'.
(This is the Sickness that the International community has been
supporting!)
Considering how touchy you are of anyone saying anything that even
remotely sounds like a criticism of judaism, it seems you could try
to
show some respect for other religions that you would have people
show
yours.
Um, how is pointing out that terrorists have been attacking XIans, and
that
the world has stood by & done nothing, disrespectful to someone else's
religion?
Unfortunately, Riain, who is supposedly quite the scholar, is not very
good with words. I didn't pick that up at all. What I got from his
statements are the same type of things the conservatives push against
homosexuals; point out a few acts by extremists and then make
generalizations against an entire group.
We all know (including Riain) that many Muslims don't consider so-
called honor killings to be right. But, where ARE these Muslims?
Yeah, I know they're scared, but you;d think that their sheer numbers
would give them courage....
Many of them are being good american citizens despite the fact that
they are often biased against.
Uh, who's talking only about Americans?
the world is full of Muslims!!
And really, who are you, or any of us
to judge them?
Let's see, I did say that I knew they were scared - I didn't specifically
say of reprisals, but that's what I meant.
But if you're going to discuss American Muslims, they have no fear
of reprisals for speaking the truth in this country.
The Muslems I know are all good, decent, hard working,
faithful people. I don't take them to task because they haven't come
up to me and said, "Jeez, you know, really sorry about the terrorism"
I'm surprised they don't at least make angry statements about how
"terrorism isn't Islam".
I've see precious few bumpre stickers (for example) on that subject.
If he was truly saying what
you say he was, that's cool. But given his little "outbursts", I have
a feeling I'm much closer to the truth then you are.
I doubt it.
While he does tend to come out firing all his guns at once, I can usually
figure out what he's aiming at.
Or are you saying that "honor killings" are a decent part of Islam?
Why of course I am! Don't be an *****; what, in any thing that I've
written before, would make you think that's what I'm about? Don't
tell me you're going to start playing Riain's little game and accuse
any one who may question something he's said of bigotry against the
jews? You're not really going there are you? Because you seem
somewhat more level headed than he does. I hope I'm not wrong.
It's called a rhetorical question.
Susan
Questioning someone's honor isn't very rhetorical, to me.
I didn't mean to, but if you thought I was, I apologize.
Susan
I've been
posting in newsgroups for years and all it takes is a few simple
google searches to see where I stand when it coms to equality for all.
Zeligg
"Prayer has no place in the public schools,
just like facts have no place in organized religion."
- Superintendent Chalmers, The Simpsons
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19 Sep 2005 06:09:21 PM |
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On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:47:52 GMT, wrote:
On 15-Sep-2005, Zeligg <zeligg@nospeedspamfactoryatall.net> wrote:
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 04:40:03 GMT, wrote:
On 14-Sep-2005, Zeligg <zeligg@nospeedspamfactoryatall.net> wrote:
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 03:27:24 GMT, wrote:
On 13-Sep-2005, Zeligg <zeligg@nospeedspamfactoryatall.net> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:42:49 -0400, "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton"
<riain@zion.org.il> wrote:
Anti-Christian Pogrom in the West Bank
For years, media outlets have largely refused to report Muslim
intimidation and violence against Christians in
Palestinian-controlled
areas. On Sept. 3, hundreds of armed Palestinian Muslims crying
'Allahu
Akbar' descended on the West Bank Christian city of Taibe. The mob
terrorized the community, setting sixteen homes and multiple
businesses
on fire, looting valuables and destroying a statue of the Virgin
Mary.
Why: A Muslim woman from their neighbouring village had had a
relationship with a Christian man from Taibe. The woman was
poisoned
to
death by her own family in an 'honour killing'.
(This is the Sickness that the International community has been
supporting!)
Considering how touchy you are of anyone saying anything that even
remotely sounds like a criticism of judaism, it seems you could try
to
show some respect for other religions that you would have people
show
yours.
Um, how is pointing out that terrorists have been attacking XIans, and
that
the world has stood by & done nothing, disrespectful to someone else's
religion?
Unfortunately, Riain, who is supposedly quite the scholar, is not very
good with words. I didn't pick that up at all. What I got from his
statements are the same type of things the conservatives push against
homosexuals; point out a few acts by extremists and then make
generalizations against an entire group.
We all know (including Riain) that many Muslims don't consider so-
called honor killings to be right. But, where ARE these Muslims?
Yeah, I know they're scared, but you;d think that their sheer numbers
would give them courage....
Many of them are being good american citizens despite the fact that
they are often biased against.
Uh, who's talking only about Americans?
the world is full of Muslims!!
And really, who are you, or any of us
to judge them?
Let's see, I did say that I knew they were scared - I didn't specifically
say of reprisals, but that's what I meant.
But if you're going to discuss American Muslims, they have no fear
of reprisals for speaking the truth in this country.
You're kidding yourself, right? There are always reprisals. My
friends had to move from the condo they owned because of constant
harrassment from the "good citizens" of this country. Perhaps you
meant there are no government-sanctioned reprisals (that we know of).
The Muslems I know are all good, decent, hard working,
faithful people. I don't take them to task because they haven't come
up to me and said, "Jeez, you know, really sorry about the terrorism"
I'm surprised they don't at least make angry statements about how
"terrorism isn't Islam".
I've see precious few bumpre stickers (for example) on that subject.
I'm sure they defend themselves by saying similar things to people who
attack their religion. I don't, so perhaps that's why I don't receive
that kind of response. On the other hand, though, I don't have to
hear their condemnations to know that they would have nothing to do
with terrorism. I'm a white male; should I apologize on a daily basis
to blacks about slavery that I have nothing to do with? We have a
very backwards way of looking at things. Our expectations that
someone of the same descent as a terrorist should condemn those
actions or be considered to be supporting terrorism is as much rubbish
as saying a woman wanted to be raped because of what she was wearing.
If he was truly saying what
you say he was, that's cool. But given his little "outbursts", I have
a feeling I'm much closer to the truth then you are.
I doubt it.
While he does tend to come out firing all his guns at once, I can usually
figure out what he's aiming at.
Or are you saying that "honor killings" are a decent part of Islam?
Why of course I am! Don't be an *****; what, in any thing that I've
written before, would make you think that's what I'm about? Don't
tell me you're going to start playing Riain's little game and accuse
any one who may question something he's said of bigotry against the
jews? You're not really going there are you? Because you seem
somewhat more level headed than he does. I hope I'm not wrong.
It's called a rhetorical question.
Susan
Questioning someone's honor isn't very rhetorical, to me.
I didn't mean to, but if you thought I was, I apologize.
That's cool, perhaps I jumped to an incorrect conclusion. It's always
difficult to read intent through newsgroups or email.
Zeligg
"Prayer has no place in the public schools,
just like facts have no place in organized religion."
- Superintendent Chalmers, The Simpsons
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20 Sep 2005 12:39:31 AM |
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On 19-Sep-2005, Zeligg <zeligg@nospeedspamfactoryatall.net> wrote:
On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:47:52 GMT, wrote:
Many of them are being good american citizens despite the fact that
they are often biased against.
Uh, who's talking only about Americans?
the world is full of Muslims!!
And really, who are you, or any of us
to judge them?
Let's see, I did say that I knew they were scared - I didn't specifically
say of reprisals, but that's what I meant.
But if you're going to discuss American Muslims, they have no fear
of reprisals for speaking the truth in this country.
You're kidding yourself, right? There are always reprisals. My
friends had to move from the condo they owned because of constant
harrassment from the "good citizens" of this country.
Those "good citizens" harassed them for speaking out against terrorism?
Perhaps you
meant there are no government-sanctioned reprisals (that we know of).
You are now conflating 2 separate issues.
We were discussing why they don't speak out against terrortism.
In*this* country, no one will ever take reprisals against them for speaking
out against terrorism. Not so in many Muslim countries.
The Muslems I know are all good, decent, hard working,
faithful people. I don't take them to task because they haven't come
up to me and said, "Jeez, you know, really sorry about the terrorism"
I'm surprised they don't at least make angry statements about how
"terrorism isn't Islam".
I've see precious few bumpre stickers (for example) on that subject.
I'm sure they defend themselves by saying similar things to people who
attack their religion. I don't, so perhaps that's why I don't receive
that kind of response.
I am speaking of a wider audience.
On the other hand, though, I don't have to
hear their condemnations to know that they would have nothing to do
with terrorism. I'm a white male; should I apologize on a daily basis
to blacks about slavery that I have nothing to do with?
If people were killing blacks in your name - and doing it on a weekly, or
even monthly basis, wouldn't you feel compelled to say SOMETHING?
We have a
very backwards way of looking at things. Our expectations that
someone of the same descent as a terrorist should condemn those
actions or be considered to be supporting terrorism is as much rubbish
as saying a woman wanted to be raped because of what she was wearing.
SInce the only thing those 2 thoght processes have in common is that you
think they are stupid, you'll have to bring something else to the table to
make
your point.
Yes, I do understand that it is, in many ways, unfair to say that decent
Muslims should speak out when *they* aren't the ones at fault.
But I find it unbelievable that in a world with so *many* Muslims in it,
hardly any of them are saying "Heym this isn;t Islam! These people are
wrong!"
The fact that SOME (few) are doing it shows that it's not only possible, but
that it's *not* so far-fetched to think that someone *should* speak out.
If he was truly saying what
you say he was, that's cool. But given his little "outbursts", I
have
a feeling I'm much closer to the truth then you are.
I doubt it.
While he does tend to come out firing all his guns at once, I can
usually
figure out what he's aiming at.
Or are you saying that "honor killings" are a decent part of Islam?
Why of course I am! Don't be an *****; what, in any thing that I've
written before, would make you think that's what I'm about? Don't
tell me you're going to start playing Riain's little game and accuse
any one who may question something he's said of bigotry against the
jews? You're not really going there are you? Because you seem
somewhat more level headed than he does. I hope I'm not wrong.
It's called a rhetorical question.
Susan
Questioning someone's honor isn't very rhetorical, to me.
I didn't mean to, but if you thought I was, I apologize.
That's cool, perhaps I jumped to an incorrect conclusion. It's always
difficult to read intent through newsgroups or email.
True; plain black & white typing is very inhuman.
Susan
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20 Sep 2005 08:25:20 PM |
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On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 00:39:31 GMT, wrote:
On 19-Sep-2005, Zeligg <zeligg@nospeedspamfactoryatall.net> wrote:
On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:47:52 GMT, wrote:
Many of them are being good american citizens despite the fact that
they are often biased against.
Uh, who's talking only about Americans?
the world is full of Muslims!!
And really, who are you, or any of us
to judge them?
Let's see, I did say that I knew they were scared - I didn't specifically
say of reprisals, but that's what I meant.
But if you're going to discuss American Muslims, they have no fear
of reprisals for speaking the truth in this country.
You're kidding yourself, right? There are always reprisals. My
friends had to move from the condo they owned because of constant
harrassment from the "good citizens" of this country.
Those "good citizens" harassed them for speaking out against terrorism?
No, in this case, they were being harrassed simply because they were
of middle eastern desent (one was turkish, the othe Lebanese)
Perhaps you
meant there are no government-sanctioned reprisals (that we know of).
You are now conflating 2 separate issues.
We were discussing why they don't speak out against terrortism.
In*this* country, no one will ever take reprisals against them for speaking
out against terrorism. Not so in many Muslim countries.
I'm sorry, I misunderstood what you were saying. There may not be
reprisals if they were to speak against it, however, I'd guarantee
that not all people would accept the reprisals as being honest or
without other intentions. There's no escaping the hate of some
people.
And I just thought of this; while they may be in this country, their
families may not. And speaking against the terrorism could very well
have a bad affect on their family members.
But even saying all that, I don't believe that they need to speak out
against something they have nothing to do with.
The Muslems I know are all good, decent, hard working,
faithful people. I don't take them to task because they haven't come
up to me and said, "Jeez, you know, really sorry about the terrorism"
I'm surprised they don't at least make angry statements about how
"terrorism isn't Islam".
I've see precious few bumpre stickers (for example) on that subject.
I'm sure they defend themselves by saying similar things to people who
attack their religion. I don't, so perhaps that's why I don't receive
that kind of response.
I am speaking of a wider audience.
On the other hand, though, I don't have to
hear their condemnations to know that they would have nothing to do
with terrorism. I'm a white male; should I apologize on a daily basis
to blacks about slavery that I have nothing to do with?
If people were killing blacks in your name - and doing it on a weekly, or
even monthly basis, wouldn't you feel compelled to say SOMETHING?
If they were killing them in the name of Zeligg, yeah I'd probably say
something. However, if they were killing them in the name of, say,
pagans, no, I wouldn't feel the need to condemn it. My friends and
family know me well enough to know I would never support something
like that. I don't feel I have to apologize for something that I'm
not a part of.
We have a
very backwards way of looking at things. Our expectations that
someone of the same descent as a terrorist should condemn those
actions or be considered to be supporting terrorism is as much rubbish
as saying a woman wanted to be raped because of what she was wearing.
SInce the only thing those 2 thoght processes have in common is that you
think they are stupid, you'll have to bring something else to the table to
make
your point.
I think they have more in common than that. They have very faulty
assumptions.
1. A man raped Tina. Tina was wearing a mini-skirt. Therefore, he
raped her because of the way she was dressed. It was her fault.
2. Deniz is Muslim. Extremist mulsims are terrorists. Deniz does
not go out of her way to tell people that she condemns their actions.
Therefore, Deniz supports terrorism. She is a terrorist.
Yes, I do understand that it is, in many ways, unfair to say that decent
Muslims should speak out when *they* aren't the ones at fault.
But I find it unbelievable that in a world with so *many* Muslims in it,
hardly any of them are saying "Heym this isn;t Islam! These people are
wrong!"
The fact that SOME (few) are doing it shows that it's not only possible, but
that it's *not* so far-fetched to think that someone *should* speak out.
Muslim leaders are, but Muslims as a group are a very humble people.
Many of the muslims I know wouldn't speak of it because they are
embarassed to be associated with terrorism, even if it's only to
condemn it.
Everyone deals with horrors and tragedies differently. Look at New
Orleans. A tragic event, and some people are running, some people are
working together, some people are doing nothing but finger pointing,
some are stealing, and some are staying behind to help others. We can
point at the absolute wrongs (stealing of non-essential items, or
"being a terrorist"), but who are we to judge the folks who aren't
doing those things because of the way they deal with it?
Zeligg
"Prayer has no place in the public schools,
just like facts have no place in organized religion."
- Superintendent Chalmers, The Simpsons
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20 Sep 2005 11:53:06 PM |
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On 20-Sep-2005, Zeligg <zeligg@nospeedspamfactoryatall.net> wrote:
On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 00:39:31 GMT, wrote:
On 19-Sep-2005, Zeligg <zeligg@nospeedspamfactoryatall.net> wrote:
On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:47:52 GMT, wrote:
Many of them are being good american citizens despite the fact that
they are often biased against.
Uh, who's talking only about Americans?
the world is full of Muslims!!
And really, who are you, or any of us
to judge them?
Let's see, I did say that I knew they were scared - I didn't
specifically
say of reprisals, but that's what I meant.
But if you're going to discuss American Muslims, they have no fear
of reprisals for speaking the truth in this country.
You're kidding yourself, right? There are always reprisals. My
friends had to move from the condo they owned because of constant
harrassment from the "good citizens" of this country.
Those "good citizens" harassed them for speaking out against terrorism?
No, in this case, they were being harrassed simply because they were
of middle eastern desent (one was turkish, the othe Lebanese)
I figured that - butm see below.
Perhaps you
meant there are no government-sanctioned reprisals (that we know of).
You are now conflating 2 separate issues.
We were discussing why they don't speak out against terrortism.
In*this* country, no one will ever take reprisals against them for
speaking
out against terrorism. Not so in many Muslim countries.
I'm sorry, I misunderstood what you were saying.
Yeah, I figured that, too.
There may not be
reprisals if they were to speak against it, however, I'd guarantee
that not all people would accept the reprisals
the speaking out, you mean?
as being honest or
without other intentions. There's no escaping the hate of some
people.
Oh, true!
And I just thought of this; while they may be in this country, their
families may not. And speaking against the terrorism could very well
have a bad affect on their family members.
True, too.
But even saying all that, I don't believe that they need to speak out
against something they have nothing to do with.
I suppose you & I will have to differ here.
If I found that someone was doing osmething in my name that I disapproved
of, I would make lots of loud noises against them.
Yes, unless they had a gun to my childrens' head - I will cop to that bit
of cowardice.
The Muslems I know are all good, decent, hard working,
faithful people. I don't take them to task because they haven't
come
up to me and said, "Jeez, you know, really sorry about the
terrorism"
I'm surprised they don't at least make angry statements about how
"terrorism isn't Islam".
I've see precious few bumpre stickers (for example) on that subject.
I'm sure they defend themselves by saying similar things to people who
attack their religion. I don't, so perhaps that's why I don't receive
that kind of response.
I am speaking of a wider audience.
On the other hand, though, I don't have to
hear their condemnations to know that they would have nothing to do
with terrorism. I'm a white male; should I apologize on a daily basis
to blacks about slavery that I have nothing to do with?
If people were killing blacks in your name - and doing it on a weekly, or
even monthly basis, wouldn't you feel compelled to say SOMETHING?
If they were killing them in the name of Zeligg, yeah I'd probably say
something. However, if they were killing them in the name of, say,
pagans, no, I wouldn't feel the need to condemn it. My friends and
family know me well enough to know I would never support something
like that. I don't feel I have to apologize for something that I'm
not a part of.
While I can understand this - the logic of it & so forth - you will have to
excuse me from sharing the mentality.
You *are* correct about fairness, of course: it is not fair for people to
stereotype, and thus it's not fair to expect people to disavow something
they aren't doing - but the world isn't fair. Sigh.
Susan
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20 Sep 2005 02:03:53 PM |
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On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 00:39:31 GMT, wrote:
On 19-Sep-2005, Zeligg <zeligg@nospeedspamfactoryatall.net> wrote:
snip
Yes, I do understand that it is, in many ways, unfair to say that decent
Muslims should speak out when *they* aren't the ones at fault.
But I find it unbelievable that in a world with so *many* Muslims in it,
hardly any of them are saying "Heym this isn;t Islam! These people are
wrong!"
The fact that SOME (few) are doing it shows that it's not only possible, but
that it's *not* so far-fetched to think that someone *should* speak out.
In other words Moslems are speaking out against it. Perhaps even as
great a percentage as Christians speaking out against massacres of
Moslems or of Christians killing Christians in sectarian violence.
snip
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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16 Sep 2005 05:55:22 PM |
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On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:47:52 GMT, wrote:
On 15-Sep-2005, Zeligg <zeligg@nospeedspamfactoryatall.net> wrote:
snip
The Muslems I know are all good, decent, hard working,
faithful people. I don't take them to task because they haven't come
up to me and said, "Jeez, you know, really sorry about the terrorism"
I'm surprised they don't at least make angry statements about how
"terrorism isn't Islam".
I've see precious few bumpre stickers (for example) on that subject.
How many bumper stickers have you seen protesting the massacre by
Christians of Moslems in Bosnia?
snip
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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14 Sep 2005 05:37:05 PM |
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 03:27:24 GMT, wrote:
On 13-Sep-2005, Zeligg <zeligg@nospeedspamfactoryatall.net> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:42:49 -0400, "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton"
<riain@zion.org.il> wrote:
Anti-Christian Pogrom in the West Bank
For years, media outlets have largely refused to report Muslim
intimidation and violence against Christians in Palestinian-controlled
areas. On Sept. 3, hundreds of armed Palestinian Muslims crying 'Allahu
Akbar' descended on the West Bank Christian city of Taibe. The mob
terrorized the community, setting sixteen homes and multiple businesses
on fire, looting valuables and destroying a statue of the Virgin Mary.
Why: A Muslim woman from their neighbouring village had had a
relationship with a Christian man from Taibe. The woman was poisoned to
death by her own family in an 'honour killing'.
(This is the Sickness that the International community has been
supporting!)
Considering how touchy you are of anyone saying anything that even
remotely sounds like a criticism of judaism, it seems you could try to
show some respect for other religions that you would have people show
yours.
Um, how is pointing out that terrorists have been attacking XIans, and that
the world has stood by & done nothing, disrespectful to someone else's
religion?
Or are you saying that "honor killings" are a decent part of Islam?
What do you mean that nothing is being done? We had such a killing
in my country. The persons responsible are in prison convicted of
murder. I have not heard any round of applause from the
"international community" in response to such killings, nor have they
been ignored.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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12 Sep 2005 08:13:40 PM |
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:42:49 -0400, "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton"
<riain@zion.org.il> wrote:
Anti-Christian Pogrom in the West Bank
For years, media outlets have largely refused to report Muslim
intimidation and violence against Christians in Palestinian-controlled
areas. On Sept. 3, hundreds of armed Palestinian Muslims crying 'Allahu
Akbar' descended on the West Bank Christian city of Taibe. The mob
terrorized the community, setting sixteen homes and multiple businesses
on fire, looting valuables and destroying a statue of the Virgin Mary.
Why: A Muslim woman from their neighbouring village had had a
relationship with a Christian man from Taibe. The woman was poisoned to
death by her own family in an 'honour killing'.
(This is the Sickness that the International community has been
supporting!)
What utter nonsense.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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13 Sep 2005 08:34:19 AM |
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On 12-Sep-2005, thomas p <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:42:49 -0400, "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton"
<riain@zion.org.il> wrote:
Anti-Christian Pogrom in the West Bank
For years, media outlets have largely refused to report Muslim
intimidation and violence against Christians in Palestinian-controlled
areas. On Sept. 3, hundreds of armed Palestinian Muslims crying 'Allahu
Akbar' descended on the West Bank Christian city of Taibe. The mob
terrorized the community, setting sixteen homes and multiple businesses
on fire, looting valuables and destroying a statue of the Virgin Mary.
Why: A Muslim woman from their neighbouring village had had a
relationship with a Christian man from Taibe. The woman was poisoned to
death by her own family in an 'honour killing'.
(This is the Sickness that the International community has been
supporting!)
What utter nonsense.
Really? The above DIDN'T happen?
Incidents like this *haven't* been happening?
Susan
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13 Sep 2005 07:51:14 PM |
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On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 08:34:19 GMT, wrote:
On 12-Sep-2005, thomas p <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:42:49 -0400, "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton"
<riain@zion.org.il> wrote:
Anti-Christian Pogrom in the West Bank
For years, media outlets have largely refused to report Muslim
intimidation and violence against Christians in Palestinian-controlled
areas. On Sept. 3, hundreds of armed Palestinian Muslims crying 'Allahu
Akbar' descended on the West Bank Christian city of Taibe. The mob
terrorized the community, setting sixteen homes and multiple businesses
on fire, looting valuables and destroying a statue of the Virgin Mary.
Why: A Muslim woman from their neighbouring village had had a
relationship with a Christian man from Taibe. The woman was poisoned to
death by her own family in an 'honour killing'.
(This is the Sickness that the International community has been
supporting!)
What utter nonsense.
Really? The above DIDN'T happen?
Incidents like this *haven't* been happening?
As far as the incident itself is concerned I have no idea if it
happened, or if it happened as described. I do know that people of
all the major religions are capable of irrational violence in the name
of their god, and that the majority of the members of those religions
are against such behavior.
It is utter nonsense to claim that the international community
supports such things as are described in the story.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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14 Sep 2005 03:28:54 AM |
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On 13-Sep-2005, thomas p <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote:
Really? The above DIDN'T happen?
Incidents like this *haven't* been happening?
As far as the incident itself is concerned I have no idea if it
happened, or if it happened as described. I do know that people of
all the major religions are capable of irrational violence in the name
of their god, and that the majority of the members of those religions
are against such behavior.
It is utter nonsense to claim that the international community
supports such things as are described in the story.
I think that remark was more to show that the international community
has been giving it a "by" - all the while harping on Israel for things that
aren't even crimes.
Susan
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| Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pogrom in the West Bank |
14 Sep 2005 07:19:50 AM |
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 03:28:54 GMT, wrote:
On 13-Sep-2005, thomas p <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote:
Really? The above DIDN'T happen?
Incidents like this *haven't* been happening?
As far as the incident itself is concerned I have no idea if it
happened, or if it happened as described. I do know that people of
all the major religions are capable of irrational violence in the name
of their god, and that the majority of the members of those religions
are against such behavior.
It is utter nonsense to claim that the international community
supports such things as are described in the story.
I think that remark was more to show that the international community
has been giving it a "by" - all the while harping on Israel for things that
aren't even crimes.
In other words the remark was utter nonsense.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pogrom in the West Bank |
14 Sep 2005 01:09:38 PM |
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On 14-Sep-2005, thomas p <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote:
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 03:28:54 GMT, wrote:
On 13-Sep-2005, thomas p <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote:
Really? The above DIDN'T happen?
Incidents like this *haven't* been happening?
As far as the incident itself is concerned I have no idea if it
happened, or if it happened as described. I do know that people of
all the major religions are capable of irrational violence in the name
of their god, and that the majority of the members of those religions
are against such behavior.
It is utter nonsense to claim that the international community
supports such things as are described in the story.
I think that remark was more to show that the international community
has been giving it a "by" - all the while harping on Israel for things
that
aren't even crimes.
In other words the remark was utter nonsense.
Yes, we already knew you were a bigot - no need to confirm it.
Susan
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| User: "thomas p" |
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| Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pogrom in the West Bank |
14 Sep 2005 05:37:04 PM |
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 13:09:38 GMT, wrote:
On 14-Sep-2005, thomas p <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote:
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 03:28:54 GMT, wrote:
On 13-Sep-2005, thomas p <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote:
Really? The above DIDN'T happen?
Incidents like this *haven't* been happening?
As far as the incident itself is concerned I have no idea if it
happened, or if it happened as described. I do know that people of
all the major religions are capable of irrational violence in the name
of their god, and that the majority of the members of those religions
are against such behavior.
It is utter nonsense to claim that the international community
supports such things as are described in the story.
I think that remark was more to show that the international community
has been giving it a "by" - all the while harping on Israel for things
that
aren't even crimes.
In other words the remark was utter nonsense.
Yes, we already knew you were a bigot - no need to confirm it.
How could you possibly know such a thing about me, since I made no
bigotted remark nor did I imply anthing that could be interpreted as
bigotted? Is disagreeing with you your definition of being a bigot?
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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