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Anti-creationism professor:Resignation was forced, U. Kansas officially a Joke school. |
Mirecki recently quit as department head, remains professor
www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/12/11/creationism.professor.ap/index.html
Sunday, December 11, 2005; Posted: 8:41 a.m. EST (13:41 GMT)
LAWRENCE, Kansas (AP) -- A college professor who drew sharp criticism for
comments deriding Christian fundamentalists over "intelligent design" said
he was forced out as chairman of the university's religious studies
department.
Paul Mirecki, who remains a professor at the University of Kansas, said he
had no choice when he signed the resignation letter, typed on stationary
from the dean of the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences.
"The University penalized me and denied me my Constitutionally protected
right to speak and express my mind," he said in a written statement Friday
for the Lawrence Journal-World. He said his career had been ruined and his
speaking engagements canceled.
Mirecki also said he had retained an attorney.
The university "has a duty, as a protector of intellectual honesty and
debate, to support its teaching staff when controversial issues are
raised," he wrote.
University spokeswoman Lynn Bretz said Saturday that Mirecki resigned the
chairmanship last week on the recommendation of faculty members.
The university "stands unequivocally in support of his First Amendment
rights and his rights to academic freedom," Bretz said.
The controversy began with a course Mirecki planned to teach called
"Special Topics in Religion: Intelligent Design, Creationism and other
Religious Mythologies." The class was proposed after the Kansas Board of
Education decided to include more criticism of evolution in its school
science standards.
The class was canceled last week after e-mails surfaced in which Mirecki
mocked religious conservatives as "fundies" and said a course describing
intelligent design as mythology would be a "nice slap in their big fat
face." He has apologized for those comments.
On Monday, Mirecki was treated at a Lawrence hospital for head injuries
after he said he was beaten by two men on a country road. He said the men
referred to the creationism course. Law enforcement officials were
investigating.
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| User: "Q" |
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11 Dec 2005 08:09:12 AM |
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It appears that the Fundies have the same attitude as Bush,
i.e. if you're not with us, you're against us.
RobH wrote:
Mirecki recently quit as department head, remains professor
www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/12/11/creationism.professor.ap/index.html
Sunday, December 11, 2005; Posted: 8:41 a.m. EST (13:41 GMT)
LAWRENCE, Kansas (AP) -- A college professor who drew sharp criticism for
comments deriding Christian fundamentalists over "intelligent design" said
he was forced out as chairman of the university's religious studies
department.
Paul Mirecki, who remains a professor at the University of Kansas, said he
had no choice when he signed the resignation letter, typed on stationary
from the dean of the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences.
"The University penalized me and denied me my Constitutionally protected
right to speak and express my mind," he said in a written statement Friday
for the Lawrence Journal-World. He said his career had been ruined and his
speaking engagements canceled.
Mirecki also said he had retained an attorney.
The university "has a duty, as a protector of intellectual honesty and
debate, to support its teaching staff when controversial issues are
raised," he wrote.
University spokeswoman Lynn Bretz said Saturday that Mirecki resigned the
chairmanship last week on the recommendation of faculty members.
The university "stands unequivocally in support of his First Amendment
rights and his rights to academic freedom," Bretz said.
The controversy began with a course Mirecki planned to teach called
"Special Topics in Religion: Intelligent Design, Creationism and other
Religious Mythologies." The class was proposed after the Kansas Board of
Education decided to include more criticism of evolution in its school
science standards.
The class was canceled last week after e-mails surfaced in which Mirecki
mocked religious conservatives as "fundies" and said a course describing
intelligent design as mythology would be a "nice slap in their big fat
face." He has apologized for those comments.
On Monday, Mirecki was treated at a Lawrence hospital for head injuries
after he said he was beaten by two men on a country road. He said the men
referred to the creationism course. Law enforcement officials were
investigating.
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| User: "MarkA" |
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11 Dec 2005 10:32:47 AM |
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On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:00:55 +0000, RobH wrote:
Mirecki recently quit as department head, remains professor
www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/12/11/creationism.professor.ap/index.html
Sunday, December 11, 2005; Posted: 8:41 a.m. EST (13:41 GMT)
LAWRENCE, Kansas (AP) -- A college professor who drew sharp criticism for
comments deriding Christian fundamentalists over "intelligent design" said
he was forced out as chairman of the university's religious studies
department.
Paul Mirecki, who remains a professor at the University of Kansas, said he
had no choice when he signed the resignation letter, typed on stationary
from the dean of the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences.
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Mirecki has become an overnight celebrity. How many people heard of him
before he proposed his anti-creationism course? Now his name is a
household word. He will have speaking engagements out the wazoo.
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MarkA
(this space accidentally filled in)
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| User: "The_Man" |
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| Title: Re: Anti-creationism professor:Resignation was forced, U. Kansas officially a Joke school. |
11 Dec 2005 12:29:54 PM |
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RobH wrote:
Mirecki recently quit as department head, remains professor
Mirecki has been chair of the department since 1989. That is WAY too
long for one person to be chair of ANY University Department. BTW, the
dude has published one journal article in the last 10 years. Really
fucking productive scholar. The rest of his stuff is shitty
proceedings, which every scholar knows is just ***** to pad an
unsatisfactory C.V.
www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/12/11/creationism.professor.ap/index.html
Sunday, December 11, 2005; Posted: 8:41 a.m. EST (13:41 GMT)
LAWRENCE, Kansas (AP) -- A college professor who drew sharp criticism for
comments deriding Christian fundamentalists over "intelligent design" said
he was forced out as chairman of the university's religious studies
department.
Yeh, I guess they "twisted his arm" (literally), or soon he'll say
the other faculty kicked his ***** in the parking lot.
Paul Mirecki, who remains a professor at the University of Kansas, said he
had no choice when he signed the resignation letter, typed on stationary
from the dean of the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences.
Everybody has a choice, just like he had the choice not to shoot his
mouth off.
"The University penalized me and denied me my Constitutionally protected
right to speak and express my mind," he said in a written statement Friday
for the Lawrence Journal-World. He said his career had been ruined and his
speaking engagements canceled.
He didn't have much of a career before hand, as anyone can tell by
looking at what HE HIMSELF posts on his website. What a fucking loser
for an associate professor!
Mirecki also said he had retained an attorney.
Surprise, surprise!
The university "has a duty, as a protector of intellectual honesty and
debate, to support its teaching staff when controversial issues are
raised," he wrote.
University spokeswoman Lynn Bretz said Saturday that Mirecki resigned the
chairmanship last week on the recommendation of faculty members.
The university "stands unequivocally in support of his First Amendment
rights and his rights to academic freedom," Bretz said.
The controversy began with a course Mirecki planned to teach called
"Special Topics in Religion: Intelligent Design, Creationism and other
Religious Mythologies."
The class was proposed after the Kansas Board of
Education decided to include more criticism of evolution in its school
science standards.
No problem with a course on creationism and intelligent design; so
far, so good.
The class was canceled last week after e-mails surfaced in which Mirecki
mocked religious conservatives as "fundies" and said a course describing
intelligent design as mythology would be a "nice slap in their big fat
face." He has apologized for those comments.
If he was merely exercising his "Constitutional" right to be stupid,
why did he apologize? Pray tell (pun intended), did he LIE???? Bad form
for a professor in the RELIGIOUS STUDIES department!
On Monday, Mirecki was treated at a Lawrence hospital for head injuries
He needed his head examined BEFORE this!
after he said he was
ALLEGEDLY!!!!!!!!!!
beaten by two men on a country road.
"Country time / country time... tastes like that good old-fashioned
lemonade." What's it called? Country Time! What's it called? Country
time, you senile old *****..."
He said the
gay ?????
men
Bent him over when he dropped the soap in the shower, while he
squealed like a pig (Ned Beatty)
referred to the creationism course.
Give me a fucking break. Am I the only one who doesn't smell a
"Morton Downey, Jr." style "attack" in the bathroom by neo-Nazi
skinheads????? How did they allegedly "refer" to the course? How could
these people possibly have recognized this ugly professor dude? Did
they actually go to the trouble to follow him? Why did he "stop" along
a country road? Was he whipping it out to realize himself? Or
pleasuring himself while gazing lovingly at the many cows in Kansas?
Inquiring minds WANT to KNOW!!!! I want to know!
Law enforcement officials were
investigating.
Good luck, officers! Trying to investigate an incident that obviously
occured ONLY in that dude's DEMENTED fucking mind! Notice how no one
has been arrested yet, and how there are not even any clues........
Hmmmmmmm!
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| User: "Emma Pease" |
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11 Dec 2005 05:14:46 PM |
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In article <1134325793.995337.246100@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
The_Man wrote:
RobH wrote:
Mirecki recently quit as department head, remains professor
Mirecki has been chair of the department since 1989. That is WAY too
long for one person to be chair of ANY University Department. BTW, the
dude has published one journal article in the last 10 years. Really
fucking productive scholar. The rest of his stuff is shitty
proceedings, which every scholar knows is just ***** to pad an
unsatisfactory C.V.
www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/12/11/creationism.professor.ap/index.html
Sunday, December 11, 2005; Posted: 8:41 a.m. EST (13:41 GMT)
"The University penalized me and denied me my Constitutionally protected
right to speak and express my mind," he said in a written statement Friday
for the Lawrence Journal-World. He said his career had been ruined and his
speaking engagements canceled.
He didn't have much of a career before hand, as anyone can tell by
looking at what HE HIMSELF posts on his website. What a fucking loser
for an associate professor!
In what sense? His web site is at
http://www.people.ku.edu/~pmirecki/
He seems to have published a reasonable amount and is still
publishing. You gave 10 years (1995-2005) then
co-wrote 1 book
co-edited 4 books
articles in Proceedings 2
articles in books 7
critical review essay 1
article in journal 1
papers at conferences 20
several book reviews and minor articles (note he separated out minor
articles in his CV, someone intent upon puffing up his CV would have
rolled them into the standard articles).
The relative significance of books, journal articles, proceeding,
or conference papers depends heavily on the field one is in. I'm not
qualified to judge his field. Nor am I qualified to judge how good
his work is.
Also you commented on Mirecki's CV stating he had been chair since
1989. I think that is an error (probably a matter of updating the
title to include the chair but not separating them into two entries in
the online CV [perhaps due to someone not knowing how to do the
html]). He has been a professor since 1989 but not chair since then.
For instance Timothy Miller was chair in the very recent past
"Timothy Miller is a Professor in the Department of Religious Studies
at the University of Kansas and will end his term as Department chair
at the end of the academic year."
http://www.ku.edu/~rstudies/currentfacultyactivities.shtml
judging from other entries the year is either 2003/2004 or 2004/2005
Emma
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On Monday, Mirecki was treated at a Lawrence hospital for head injuries
He needed his head examined BEFORE this!
after he said he was
ALLEGEDLY!!!!!!!!!!
beaten by two men on a country road.
Hmm, he said he was beaten. He didn't say he was allegedly beaten.
To use 'allegedly' you would have to rephrase the sentence to "Mirecki
was allegedly beaten by two men."
Good luck, officers! Trying to investigate an incident that obviously
occured ONLY in that dude's DEMENTED fucking mind! Notice how no one
has been arrested yet, and how there are not even any clues........
Hmmmmmmm!
If he got treated at the hospital for injuries something happened (I
don't think anyone is denying he was injured). Also how do you know
there were no clues; the police rarely reveal everything while
investigating?
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| User: "The_Man" |
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11 Dec 2005 07:22:44 PM |
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He seems to have published a reasonable amount and is still
publishing. You gave 10 years (1995-2005) then
co-wrote 1 book
co-edited 4 books
He couldn't even EDIT a book by himself.
articles in Proceedings 2
Proceedings are Scheisse. Anyone who goes up for tenure knows that
proceedings are given almost no weight, because a monkey can have a
paper published in proceedings.
articles in books 7
So this proves he has friends who'll put an article of his in their
book. So?
critical review essay 1
article in journal 1
papers at conferences 20
Papers at conferences are worthless. You pay them the conference fee,
and they put your crap in the proceedings, and no one ever looks at it
again.
several book reviews and minor articles (note he separated out minor
articles in his CV, someone intent upon puffing up his CV would have
rolled them into the standard articles).
The relative significance of books, journal articles, proceeding,
or conference papers depends heavily on the field one is in.
In any field, most of his work would be considered absolutely
worthless, particularly from someone who styles himself a leader in the
field. Remember, the University of Kansas is a RESEARCH institution. He
has a very light teaching load (still lighter if he is the chair), in
return for him supposedly doing significant scholarship. He HASN'T done
even MINIMAL scholarship. Write letters to the deans of any Ivy League
school, and ask them to show you the C.V. of someone who has recently
gotten tenure at their school. At most mediocre schools, this joker
would have been laughed out of the place long ago.
I'm not
qualified to judge his field. Nor am I qualified to judge how good
his work is.
Then perhaps you shouldn't comment on it. Anyone in an academic field
can look at Mirecki's C.V. and wonder straight away why he seemed to
have been hired directly as an associate professor (maybe I am missing
something here). It is even more bizarre, as it seems that his
productivity over the last years is not such that he should invite
scrutiny of it.
Also you commented on Mirecki's CV stating he had been chair since
1989. I think that is an error (probably a matter of updating the
title to include the chair but not separating them into two entries in
the online CV [perhaps due to someone not knowing how to do the
html]).
Many faculty membrs have been FIRED for precisely this kind of
"mistake". Some people could be uncharitable, and call it LYING. It
certainly gives the impression that he has been chair since 1989.
He has been a professor since 1989 but not chair since then.
For instance Timothy Miller was chair in the very recent past
Hopefully Dr. Miller actually accomplishes something as an academic.
"Timothy Miller is a Professor in the Department of Religious Studies
at the University of Kansas and will end his term as Department chair
at the end of the academic year."
http://www.ku.edu/~rstudies/currentfacultyactivities.shtml
judging from other entries the year is either 2003/2004 or 2004/2005
If he got treated at the hospital for injuries something happened (I
It looks like what happens if a basketball hits you in the nose. His
injuries look as insignificant as his research.
don't think anyone is denying he was injured). Also how do you know
there were no clues; the police rarely reveal everything while
investigating?
Professor Mirecki's (posed) photograph is on the web. He certainly
looks in excellent condition for someone supposedly beaten. No cut lip,
or bloody nose. The first thing one does when fighting in anger is to
punch the other man in the mouth - it bleeds a lot, and it is very
painful. Yet there seems to be no such injury. That is why it does not
pass the "smell test". When it is announced in several days that
Mirecki made the whole thing up, will you congratulate me on my
perception?
Emma (Peel????? :-)
I don't mean to be hypercritical, since you seem very nice.
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