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"RainLover" |
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11 Oct 2005 09:02:00 AM |
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Any LISTS of "end of the world" predictions? |
From another thread, I hear Pat Robertson is once again saying the end
of the world is at hand... yeah.... AGAIN.
It got me thinkin'... I also know that the Jehovah's Witnesses keep
prediction the Big Guy's® return as well.
Does anyone know if there's a place on the web where someone has a
comprehensive LIST of all of these failed prophecies? Of course...
the list would have to BEGIN with Jesus H. Christ's own prophecy that
he would be returning before his followers of the day died.....
Anyone? I'd love to see this list... with names, dates and places
the quotes / prophecies came from.
Thanks,
James, Seattle
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| User: "Peacenik" |
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12 Oct 2005 12:44:47 PM |
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"RainLover" <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
news:a6hnk15oqufkmui8kfiqqsiot5k3tp7utd@4ax.com...
From another thread, I hear Pat Robertson is once again saying the end
of the world is at hand... yeah.... AGAIN.
It got me thinkin'... I also know that the Jehovah's Witnesses keep
prediction the Big Guy's® return as well.
Does anyone know if there's a place on the web where someone has a
comprehensive LIST of all of these failed prophecies? Of course...
the list would have to BEGIN with Jesus H. Christ's own prophecy that
he would be returning before his followers of the day died.....
Anyone? I'd love to see this list... with names, dates and places
the quotes / prophecies came from.
www.abhota.info
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| User: "RainLover" |
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13 Oct 2005 08:13:33 AM |
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On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 01:44:47 +0800, "Peacenik"
<cnelsonpublic@hotmail.com> wrote:
"RainLover" <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
news:a6hnk15oqufkmui8kfiqqsiot5k3tp7utd@4ax.com...
From another thread, I hear Pat Robertson is once again saying the end
of the world is at hand... yeah.... AGAIN.
It got me thinkin'... I also know that the Jehovah's Witnesses keep
prediction the Big Guy's® return as well.
Does anyone know if there's a place on the web where someone has a
comprehensive LIST of all of these failed prophecies? Of course...
the list would have to BEGIN with Jesus H. Christ's own prophecy that
he would be returning before his followers of the day died.....
Anyone? I'd love to see this list... with names, dates and places
the quotes / prophecies came from.
www.abhota.info
A Brief History of the Apocalypse --- BRILLIANT!
That's exactly what I was looking for. I was a bit surprised
though... many more ends' of the world then I had expected.
Thanks,
James, Seattle
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| User: "Peacenik" |
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13 Oct 2005 12:04:20 PM |
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"RainLover" <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
news:t9nsk1lpe2paa26e4bahhvhv203cg1c0o7@4ax.com...
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 01:44:47 +0800, "Peacenik"
<cnelsonpublic@hotmail.com> wrote:
"RainLover" <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
news:a6hnk15oqufkmui8kfiqqsiot5k3tp7utd@4ax.com...
From another thread, I hear Pat Robertson is once again saying the end
of the world is at hand... yeah.... AGAIN.
It got me thinkin'... I also know that the Jehovah's Witnesses keep
prediction the Big Guy's® return as well.
Does anyone know if there's a place on the web where someone has a
comprehensive LIST of all of these failed prophecies? Of course...
the list would have to BEGIN with Jesus H. Christ's own prophecy that
he would be returning before his followers of the day died.....
Anyone? I'd love to see this list... with names, dates and places
the quotes / prophecies came from.
www.abhota.info
A Brief History of the Apocalypse --- BRILLIANT!
That's exactly what I was looking for.
Thank you! I do have a little updating to do on that site...maybe when the
real world relents for a bit...
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| User: "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrichs effort" |
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| Title: Re: Any LISTS of "end of the world" predictions? |
13 Oct 2005 12:11:36 PM |
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RainLover wrote:
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 01:44:47 +0800, "Peacenik"
<cnelsonpublic@hotmail.com> wrote:
"RainLover" <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
news:a6hnk15oqufkmui8kfiqqsiot5k3tp7utd@4ax.com...
From another thread, I hear Pat Robertson is once again saying the end
of the world is at hand... yeah.... AGAIN.
It got me thinkin'... I also know that the Jehovah's Witnesses keep
prediction the Big Guy's=AE return as well.
Does anyone know if there's a place on the web where someone has a
comprehensive LIST of all of these failed prophecies? Of course...
the list would have to BEGIN with Jesus H. Christ's own prophecy that
he would be returning before his followers of the day died.....
Anyone? I'd love to see this list... with names, dates and places
the quotes / prophecies came from.
www.abhota.info
A Brief History of the Apocalypse --- BRILLIANT!
That's exactly what I was looking for. I was a bit surprised
though... many more ends' of the world then I had expected.
Thanks,
James, Seattle
I believe James Randi's "Encyclopaedia of Claims, Frauds and Hoaxes of
the Occult and Supernatural" has a list at the back. It's one of his
books, anyway. My theist ex-wife gave me that book for my birthday a
few years ago, which I thought was nice of her, although a tad ironic.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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14 Oct 2005 03:03:58 AM |
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On 13 Oct 2005 10:11:36 -0700, "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason
Gastrich's effort" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote:
RainLover wrote:
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 01:44:47 +0800, "Peacenik"
<cnelsonpublic@hotmail.com> wrote:
"RainLover" <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
news:a6hnk15oqufkmui8kfiqqsiot5k3tp7utd@4ax.com...
From another thread, I hear Pat Robertson is once again saying the end
of the world is at hand... yeah.... AGAIN.
It got me thinkin'... I also know that the Jehovah's Witnesses keep
prediction the Big Guy's® return as well.
Does anyone know if there's a place on the web where someone has a
comprehensive LIST of all of these failed prophecies? Of course...
the list would have to BEGIN with Jesus H. Christ's own prophecy that
he would be returning before his followers of the day died.....
Anyone? I'd love to see this list... with names, dates and places
the quotes / prophecies came from.
www.abhota.info
A Brief History of the Apocalypse --- BRILLIANT!
That's exactly what I was looking for. I was a bit surprised
though... many more ends' of the world then I had expected.
Thanks,
James, Seattle
I believe James Randi's "Encyclopaedia of Claims, Frauds and Hoaxes of
the Occult and Supernatural" has a list at the back. It's one of his
books, anyway. My theist ex-wife gave me that book for my birthday a
few years ago, which I thought was nice of her, although a tad ironic.
An updated version is now available on-line:
http://www.randi.org/encyclopedia/
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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13 Oct 2005 12:21:23 PM |
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RainLover wrote:
Anyone? I'd love to see this list... with names, dates and places
the quotes / prophecies came from.
www.abhota.info
A Brief History of the Apocalypse --- BRILLIANT!
That's exactly what I was looking for. I was a bit surprised
though... many more ends' of the world then I had expected.
Probably the best list is a calendar. Just buy one, mark off all the dates
with a red "X" and be secure in the knowledge that some one feels that is
the day.
Remember also that many feel the rapture will happen first so when you see
empty cars with "When Rapture strikes, this car will be empty." feel free to
take one.
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| User: "RainLover" |
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13 Oct 2005 01:09:26 PM |
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On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 17:21:23 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
RainLover wrote:
Anyone? I'd love to see this list... with names, dates and places
the quotes / prophecies came from.
www.abhota.info
A Brief History of the Apocalypse --- BRILLIANT!
That's exactly what I was looking for. I was a bit surprised
though... many more ends' of the world then I had expected.
Probably the best list is a calendar. Just buy one, mark off all the dates
with a red "X" and be secure in the knowledge that some one feels that is
the day.
Remember also that many feel the rapture will happen first so when you see
empty cars with "When Rapture strikes, this car will be empty." feel free to
take one.
I used to have a Bumpersticker:
"When the rapture comes, can I have your car?"
James, Seattle
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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14 Oct 2005 03:05:33 AM |
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On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 11:09:26 -0700, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 17:21:23 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
RainLover wrote:
Anyone? I'd love to see this list... with names, dates and places
the quotes / prophecies came from.
www.abhota.info
A Brief History of the Apocalypse --- BRILLIANT!
That's exactly what I was looking for. I was a bit surprised
though... many more ends' of the world then I had expected.
Probably the best list is a calendar. Just buy one, mark off all the dates
with a red "X" and be secure in the knowledge that some one feels that is
the day.
Remember also that many feel the rapture will happen first so when you see
empty cars with "When Rapture strikes, this car will be empty." feel free to
take one.
I used to have a Bumpersticker:
"When the rapture comes, can I have your car?"
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Thay always say no, except for one theist a few months ago on this
very newsgroup, who agreed to hand over all his property to me, just
before the rapture, "very soon".
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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12 Oct 2005 05:38:18 PM |
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Peacenik wrote:
"RainLover" <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in
message news:a6hnk15oqufkmui8kfiqqsiot5k3tp7utd@4ax.com...
From another thread, I hear Pat Robertson is once again saying
the end
of the world is at hand... yeah.... AGAIN.
It got me thinkin'... I also know that the Jehovah's Witnesses
keep prediction the Big Guy's® return as well.
Does anyone know if there's a place on the web where someone
has a
comprehensive LIST of all of these failed prophecies? Of
course... the list would have to BEGIN with Jesus H. Christ's
own prophecy that he would be returning before his followers
of the day died.....
Anyone? I'd love to see this list... with names, dates and
places the quotes / prophecies came from.
www.abhota.info
There was a Jehova's Witness critical site that did collect the
JW's list of end dates. Last I heard the JW's were suing to
shut it down.
I have seen over the years several lists of end of the world
dates, starting with Jesus of course, and on to Paul's epistles
which have a number of such predictions. Montanus and others
predicted such things in the early days of Christianity and there
were a spate of such predictions about 1000 CE.
In past years, starting with the Millerites (JWs), we have had
a spate of end of the world predictions from sects like this,
and of course since Hal Lindesy, its been a cottage industry in
America. I remeber a few years aago seeing a rather long list of
books prediciting the end.
Its out there, googling would probably get you a lot fairly
quickly. Try christianity, failed predictions, end of the
world. This seems to have pulled up over 3,000,000 english
pages for me.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrl2.htm
Failed prophecies:
About 30 CE: The Christian Scriptures (New Testament), when
interpreted literally, appear to record many predictions by
Jeshua of Nazareth (Jesus Christ) that God's Kingdom would
arrive within a very short period, or was actually in the
process of arriving. For example, Jesus is recorded as saying in
Matthew 16:28: "...there shall be some standing here, which
shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in
his kingdom." In Matthew 24:34, Yeshua is recorded as saying:
"...This generation shall not pass, till all these things be
fulfilled." Since the life expectancy in those days was little
over 30 years, Jesus appears to have predicted his second coming
sometime during the 1st century CE. It didn't happen. More
details.
About 60 CE: Interpreting the Epistles of Paul of Tarsus
literally, his writings seem to imply that Jesus would return
and usher in a rapture during the lifetime of persons who were
living in the middle of the 1st century. More details.
About 90 CE: Saint Clement 1 predicted that the world end would
occur at any moment.
2nd Century CE: Prophets and Prophetesses of the Montanist
movement predicted that Jesus would return sometime during their
lifetime and establish the New Jerusalem in the city of Pepuza
in Asia Minor.
365 CE: A man by the name of Hilary of Poitiers, announced that
the end would happen that year. It didn't.
375 to 400 CE: Saint Martin of Tours, a student of Hilary, was
convinced that the end would happen sometime before 400 CE.
500 CE: This was the first year-with-a-nice-round-number-panic.
The antipope Hippolytus and an earlier Christian academic Sextus
Julius Africanus had predicted Armageddon at about this year.
968 CE: An eclipse was interpreted as a prelude to the end of
the world by the army of the German emperor Otto III.
992: Good Friday coincided with the Feast of the Annunciation;
this had long been believed to be the event that would bring
forth the Antichrist, and thus the end-times events foretold in
the book of Revelation. Records from Germany report that a new
sun rose in the north and that as many as 3 suns and 3 moons
were fighting.
1000-JAN-1: Many Christians in Europe had predicted the end of
the world on this date. As the date approached, Christian armies
waged war against some of the Pagan countries in Northern
Europe. The motivation was to convert them all to Christianity,
by force if necessary, before Christ returned in the year 1000.
Meanwhile, some Christians had given their possessions to the
Church in anticipation of the end. Fortunately, the level of
education was so low that many citizens were unaware of the
year. They did not know enough to be afraid. Otherwise, the
panic might have been far worse than it was. Unfortunately, when
Jesus did not appear, the church did not return the gifts.
Serious criticism of the Church followed. The Church reacted by
exterminating some heretics.
1000-MAY: The body of Charlemagne was disinterred on Pentecost.
A legend had arisen that an emperor would rise from his sleep to
fight the Antichrist.
1005-1006: A terrible famine throughout Europe was seen as a
sign of the closeness of the end.
1033: Some believed this to be the 1000th anniversary of the
death and resurrection of Jesus. His second coming was
anticipated. Jesus' actual date of execution is unknown, but is
believed to be in the range of 27 to 33 CE.
1147: Gerard of Poehlde decided that the millennium had actually
started in 306 CE during Constantine's reign. Thus, the world
end would happen in 1306 CE.
1179: John of Toledo predicted the end of the world during 1186.
This estimate was based on the alignment of many planets.
1205: Joachim of Fiore predicted in 1190 that the Antichrist was
already in the world, and that King Richard of England would
defeat him. The Millennium would then begin, sometime before
1205.
1284: Pope Innocent III computed this date by adding 666 years
onto the date the Islam was founded.
1346 and later: The black plague spread across Europe, killing
one third of the population. This was seen as the prelude to an
immediate end of the world. Unfortunately, the Christians had
previously killed a many of the cats, fearing that they might be
familiars of Witches. The fewer the cats, the more the rats. It
was the rat fleas that spread the black plague.
1496: This was approximately 1500 years after the birth of
Jesus. Some mystics in the 15th century predicted that the
millennium would begin during this year.
1524: Many astrologers predicted the imminent end of the world
due to a world wide flood. They obviously had not read the
Genesis story of the rainbow.
1533: Melchior Hoffman predicted that Jesus' return would happen
in 1533 and that the New Jerusalem would be established in
Strasbourg, Germany. He was arrested and died in a Strasbourg
jail.
1669: The Old Believers in Russia believed that the end of the
world would occur in this year. 20 thousand burned themselves to
death from 1669 to 1690 to protect themselves from the
Antichrist.
1689: Benjamin Keach, a 17th century Baptist, predicted the end
of the world for this year.
1736: British theologian and mathematician William Whitson
predicted a great flood similar to Noah's for OCT-13 of this
year.
1792: This was the date of the end of the world calculated by
some believers in the Shaker movement.
1794: Charles Wesley, one of the founders of Methodism, thought
Doomsday would be in this year.
1830: Margaret McDonald, a Christian prophetess, predicted that
Robert Owen would be the Antichrist. Owen helped found New
Harmony, IN.
1832: Joseph Smith, the founder of the Mormon movement, heard a
voice and interpreted it as implying that if he lived to the age
of 85, Jesus would return. This would be the year 1890.
Unfortunately, by that year, Smith had been dead for almost a
half century.
1843-MAR-21: William Miller, founder of the Millerite movement,
predicted that Jesus would come on this date.
1844-OCT-22: When Jesus did not return, Miller predicted this
new date. In an event which is now called "The Great
Disappointment," many Christians sold their property and
possessions, quit their jobs and prepared themselves for the
second coming. Nothing happened; the day came and went without
incident.
1850: Ellen White, founder of the Seven Day Adventists movement,
made many predictions of the timing of the end of the world. All
failed. She made one on 1850-JUN-27 that only a few months
remained before the end. She wrote: "My accompanying angel said,
'Time is almost finished. Get ready, get ready, get
ready.' ...now time is almost finished...and what we have been
years learning, they will have to learn in a few months." 10
1856 or later: At Ellen White's last prediction, she said that
she was shown in a vision the fate of believers who attended the
1856 SDA conference. She wrote "I was shown the company present
at the Conference. Said the angel: 'Some food for worms, some
subjects of the seven last plagues, some will be alive and
remain upon the earth to be translated at the coming of Jesus."
11 That is, some of the attendees would die of normal diseases;
some would die from plagues at the last days, others would still
be alive when Jesus came. "By the early 1900s all those who
attended the conference had passed away, leaving the Church with
the dilemma of trying to figure out how to explain away such a
prominent prophetic failure." 12
1891 or before: On 1835-FEB-14, Joseph Smith, the founder of the
Mormon church, attended a meeting of church leaders. He said
that the meeting had been called because God had commanded it.
He announced that Jesus would return within 56 years -- i.e.
before 1891-FEB-15. (History of the Church 2:182)
1914 was one of the more important estimates of the start of the
war of Armageddon by the Jehovah's Witnesses (Watchtower Bible
and Tract Society). They computed 1914 from prophecy in the book
of Daniel, Chapter 4. The writings referred to "seven times".
The WTS interpreted each "time" as equal to 360 days, giving a
total of 2520 days. This was further interpreted as representing
2520 years, measured from the starting date of 607 BCE. This
gave 1914 as the target date. When 1914 passed, they changed
their prediction; 1914 became the year that Jesus invisibly
began his rule.
1914, 1915, 1918, 1920, 1925, 1941, 1975 and 1994, etc. were
other dates that the Watchtower Society (WTS) or its members
predicted.
Since late in the 19th century, they had taught that the "battle
of the Great Day of God Almighty" (Armageddon) would happen in
1914 CE. It didn't.
The next major estimate was 1925. Watchtower magazine predicted:
"The year 1925 is a date definitely and clearly marked in the
Scriptures, even more clearly than that of 1914; but it would be
presumptuous on the part of any faithful follower of the Lord to
assume just what the Lord is going to do during that year." 6
The Watchtower Society selected 1975 as its next main
prediction. This was based on the estimate "according to
reliable Bible chronology Adam was created in the year 4026 BCE,
likely in the autumn of the year, at the end of the sixth day of
creation." 8 They believed that the year 1975 a promising date
for the end of the world, as it was the 6,000th anniversary of
Adam's creation. Exactly 1,000 years was to pass for each day of
the creation week. This prophecy also failed.
The current estimate is that the end of the world as we know it
will happen precisely 6000 years after the creation of Eve. 9
There is no way of knowing when this happened.
More details on the WTS predictions.
1919: Meteorologist Albert Porta predicted that the conjunction
of 6 planets would generate a magnetic current that would cause
the sun to explode and engulf the earth on DEC-17.
1936: Herbert W Armstrong, founder of the Worldwide Church of
God, predicted that the Day of the Lord would happen sometime in
1936. When the prediction failed, he made a new estimate: 1975.
1940 or 1941: A Bible teacher from Australia, Leonard
Sale-Harrison, held a series of prophesy conferences across
North America in the 1930's. He predicted that the end of the
world would happen in 1940 or 1941. 7
1948: During this year, the state of Israel was founded. Some
Christians believed that this event was the final prerequisite
for the second coming of Jesus. Various end of the world
predictions were made in the range 1888 to 2048.
1953-AUG: David Davidson wrote a book titled "The Great Pyramid,
Its Divine Message". In it, he predicted that the world would
end in 1953-AUG.
1957-APR: The Watchtower magazine quoted 6 a pastor from
California, Mihran Ask, as saying in 1957-JAN that "Sometime
between April 16 and 23, 1957, Armageddon will sweep the world!
Millions of persons will perish in its flames and the land will
be scorched.'
1959: The Branch Davidians of Waco TX believed that they would
be killed, resurrected and transferred to heaven by APR-22.
1960: Piazzi Smyth, a past astronomer royal of Scotland, wrote a
book circa 1860 titled "Our Inheritance in the Great Pyramid."
It was responsible for spreading the belief in pyramidology
throughout the world. This is the belief that secrets are hidden
in the dimensions of the great pyramids. He concluded from his
research that the millennium would start before the end of 1960
CE.
1967: During the six day war, the Israeli army captured all of
Jerusalem. Many conservative Christians believed that the
rapture would occur quickly. However, the final Biblical
prerequisite for the second coming is that the Jews resume
ritual animal sacrifices in the temple at Jerusalem. That never
happened.
1970's: The late Moses David (formerly David Berg) was the
founder of the Christian religious group, The Children of God.
He predicted that a comet would hit the earth, probably in the
mid 1970's and destroy all life in the United States. One source
indicated that he believed it would happen in 1973.
1972: According to an article in the Atlantic magazine, "Herbert
W. Armstrong's empire suffered a serious blow when the end
failed to begin in January of 1972, as Armstrong had predicted,
thus bringing hardship to many people who had given most of
their assets to the church in the expectation of going to Petra,
where such worldly possessions would be useless." 3
1974: Charles Meade, a pastor in Daleville, IN, predicted that
the end of the world will happen during his lifetime. He was
born circa 1927, so the end will probably come early in the 21st
century.
1975: A major Jehovah's Witness prediction date.
1978: Chuck Smith, Pastor of Calvary Chapel in Cost Mesa, CA,
predicted the rapture in 1981.
1980: Leland Jensen leader of a Baha'i World Faith group,
predicted that a nuclear disaster would happen in 1980. This
would be followed by two decades of conflict, ending in the
establishment of God's Kingdom on earth.
1981:
Arnold Murray of the Shepherd's Chapel taught an
anti-Trinitarian belief about God, and Christian Identity. Back
in the 1970's, he predicted that the Antichrist would appear
before 1981.
Rev. Sun Myung Moon, founder of the Unification Church predicted
that the Kingdom of Heaven would be established in this year.
1982: Pat Robertson predicted a few years previously that the
world would end in the fall of 1982.
1982: Astronomers John Gribben & Setphen Plagemann predicted the
"Jupiter Effect" in 1974. They wrote that when various planets
were aligned on the same side of the sun, tidal forces would
create solar flares, radio interruptions, rainfall and
temperature disturbances and massive earthquakes. The planets
did align, as seen from earth, but nothing unusual happened.
1984 to 1999: In 1983, Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh, later called
Osho, teacher of what has been called the Rajneesh movement, is
said to have predicted massive destruction on earth, including
natural disasters and man-made catastrophes. Floods larger than
any since Noah, extreme earthquakes, very destructive volcano
eruptions, nuclear wars etc. will be experienced. Tokyo, New
York, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Bombay will all disappear.
Actually, the predictions were read by his secretary; their
legitimacy is doubtful.
1985: Arnold Murray of the Shepherd's Chapel predicted that the
war of Aramageddon will start on 1985-JUN 8-9 in "a valley of
the Alaskan peninsula."
1986: Moses David of The Children of God faith group predicted
that the Battle of Armageddon would take place in 1986. Russia
would defeat Israel and the United States. A worldwide Communist
dictatorship would be established. In 1993, Christ would return
to earth.
1987 to 2000: Lester Sumrall, in his 1987 book "I Predict 2000
AD" predicted that Jerusalem would be the richest city on Earth,
that the Common Market would rule Europe, and that there would
be a nuclear war involving Russia and perhaps the U.S. Also, he
prophesized that the greatest Christian revival in the history
of the church would happen: all during the last 13 years of the
20th century. All of the predictions failed.
1988:
Hal Lindsey had predicted in his book "The Late, Great Planet
Earth" that the Rapture was coming in 1988 - one generation or
40 years after the creation of the state of Israel. This failed
prophecy did not appear to damage his reputation. He continues
to write books of prophecy which sell very well indeed.
Alfred Schmielewsky, a psychic whose stage name was
"super-psychic A.S. Narayana," predicted in 1986 that the
world's greatest natural disaster would hit Montreal in 1988.
Sadly, his psychic abilities failed him on 1999-APR-11 when he
answered the door of his home only to be shot dead by a gunman.
1988-MAY: A 1981 movie titled "The man who saw tomorrow"
described some of Nostradamus predictions. Massive earthquakes
were predicted for San Francisco and Los Angeles.
1988-OCT-11: Edgar Whisenaut, a NASA scientist, had published
the book "88 Reasons why the Rapture will Occur in 1988." It
sold over 4 million copies.
About 1990: Peter Ruckman concluded from his analysis of the
Bible that the rapture would come within a few years of 1990.
References:
S.J. Gould, "Questioning the Millennium: A Rationalist's Guide to
a Precisely Arbitrary Countdown.", Harmony Books, (1997) You can
read a review and safely buy this book from Amazon.com online
bookstore
Chris Nelson, "A brief history of the apocalypse," at:
http://www.chrisnelson.net This web site contains over 200
references to end-of-the-world predictions which have not come
true.
William Martin, "Waiting for the End: The growing interest in
apocalyptic prophesy," The Atlantic Monthly, 1982-JUN. Online
at: http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/82jun/
Charles Taze Russell, "The Time is at Hand," Page 99. Cited in
Ref 5.
"Jehovah's Witnesses and the History of 1914," Watchman
Fellowship, Inc., at: http://www.watchman.org/jw
Watchtower magazine, 1924-JUL-15, Page 211).
Richard Kyle, "The last days are here again: A history of the end
times," Baker Books, (1998), Page 111. You can read a review and
safely buy this book from Amazon.com online bookstore
The Watchtower Magazine, 1968-APR-1.
"History of the Jehovah's Witnesses," Catholic Answers, at:
http://www.catholic.com/
Ellen White, "Early Writings," Page 64-67. Cited in reference 12
Ellen White, "Testimonies," Vol. 1, p. 131.
"Analysis" at: http://www.ellenwhite.org/ This is a web site that
is critical of Ellen White.
"Seed of the Serpent," Audiotape, 1979 version.
--
The official spokesman of the Foxes said
today that investigation into what happened
to the henhouse may be needed.
Cheerful Charlie
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13 Oct 2005 07:56:00 AM |
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Peacenik wrote:
"RainLover" <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
news:a6hnk15oqufkmui8kfiqqsiot5k3tp7utd@4ax.com...
From another thread, I hear Pat Robertson is once again saying the end
of the world is at hand... yeah.... AGAIN.
It got me thinkin'... I also know that the Jehovah's Witnesses keep
prediction the Big Guy's=AE return as well.
Does anyone know if there's a place on the web where someone has a
comprehensive LIST of all of these failed prophecies? Of course...
the list would have to BEGIN with Jesus H. Christ's own prophecy that
he would be returning before his followers of the day died.....
Anyone? I'd love to see this list... with names, dates and places
the quotes / prophecies came from.
www.abhota.info
I liked the opening Assyrian quote, but at least Bartleby believes
its apocryphal:
http://www.bartleby.com/73/456.html
(if you search the web for it, you'll find many slight variations,
sometimes citing Egyptians).
-jc
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| User: "Boony" |
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11 Oct 2005 04:09:04 PM |
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"RainLover" <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
news:a6hnk15oqufkmui8kfiqqsiot5k3tp7utd@4ax.com...
From another thread, I hear Pat Robertson is once again saying the end
of the world is at hand... yeah.... AGAIN.
It got me thinkin'... I also know that the Jehovah's Witnesses keep
prediction the Big Guy's® return as well.
Does anyone know if there's a place on the web where someone has a
comprehensive LIST of all of these failed prophecies? Of course...
the list would have to BEGIN with Jesus H. Christ's own prophecy that
he would be returning before his followers of the day died.....
Anyone? I'd love to see this list... with names, dates and places
the quotes / prophecies came from.
Thanks,
James, Seattle
This site is called "The End of the World as we know it...Again
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Oracle/9941/
It fits the bill.
Boony
aa #1444
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| User: "Witziges Rätsel" |
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11 Oct 2005 04:39:35 PM |
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From another thread, I hear Pat Robertson is once again saying the end
of the world is at hand... yeah.... AGAIN.
<snip>
Does anyone know if there's a place on the web where someone has a
comprehensive LIST of all of these failed prophecies?
<snip>
Anyone? I'd love to see this list... with names, dates and places
the quotes / prophecies came from.
Please, define "world". Is it the planet Earth? The people of
Earth? Life on earth? Earth's solar system? The Universe? Sean
Hannity's ego? Or something entirely different?
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| User: "Frank Warner" |
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11 Oct 2005 09:58:46 AM |
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In article <a6hnk15oqufkmui8kfiqqsiot5k3tp7utd@4ax.com>, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:
From another thread, I hear Pat Robertson is once again saying the end
of the world is at hand... yeah.... AGAIN.
It got me thinkin'... I also know that the Jehovah's Witnesses keep
prediction the Big Guy's® return as well.
Does anyone know if there's a place on the web where someone has a
comprehensive LIST of all of these failed prophecies? Of course...
the list would have to BEGIN with Jesus H. Christ's own prophecy that
he would be returning before his followers of the day died.....
Anyone? I'd love to see this list... with names, dates and places
the quotes / prophecies came from.
Thanks,
James, Seattle
The one that scares the bejesus out of me is the Mayan long count
linear calendar, which simply stops on July 5, 2012. There is no way to
express a date after that one.
Only seven years left.
-chib
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Member of SMASH
Sarcastic Middla Aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
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| User: "" |
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11 Oct 2005 10:34:55 AM |
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 07:58:46 -0700, Frank Warner
<chibiabos@nospam.com> wrote:
In article <a6hnk15oqufkmui8kfiqqsiot5k3tp7utd@4ax.com>, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:
From another thread, I hear Pat Robertson is once again saying the end
of the world is at hand... yeah.... AGAIN.
It got me thinkin'... I also know that the Jehovah's Witnesses keep
prediction the Big Guy's® return as well.
Does anyone know if there's a place on the web where someone has a
comprehensive LIST of all of these failed prophecies? Of course...
the list would have to BEGIN with Jesus H. Christ's own prophecy that
he would be returning before his followers of the day died.....
Anyone? I'd love to see this list... with names, dates and places
the quotes / prophecies came from.
Thanks,
James, Seattle
The one that scares the bejesus out of me is the Mayan long count
linear calendar, which simply stops on July 5, 2012. There is no way to
express a date after that one.
Just imagine if you were Mayan. Oh, nooooooo!
Only seven years left.
-chib
--
zamboni #2139
BAAWA Assistant to the Vice-Administrator of Malevolence
EAC Tertiary Adjunct to the Dispenser of Obfuscation.
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| User: "" |
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11 Oct 2005 10:14:46 AM |
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 07:02:00 -0700, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:
From another thread, I hear Pat Robertson is once again saying the end
of the world is at hand... yeah.... AGAIN.
It got me thinkin'... I also know that the Jehovah's Witnesses keep
prediction the Big Guy's® return as well.
Does anyone know if there's a place on the web where someone has a
comprehensive LIST of all of these failed prophecies? Of course...
the list would have to BEGIN with Jesus H. Christ's own prophecy that
he would be returning before his followers of the day died.....
Anyone? I'd love to see this list... with names, dates and places
the quotes / prophecies came from.
Thanks,
James, Seattle
I was interested, so I put my considerable google skills to work. :-D
Hey one of these times, someone's going to be right. It really will be
the end of the world, then we,or our descendants, will be sorry that
we didn't listen.
Here's a start:
http://www.bible.ca/pre-date-setters.htm
Also interesting
http://www.bible.ca/pre-false-end-times-charts.htm
oh just look at this:
http://www.bible.ca/cgi-bin/texis/webinator/search4/?pr=default&order=r&query=end+of+world&cq=&submit=Submit
or
http://makeashorterlink.com/?C620336FB
(You can mess with the search terms of course.)
--
zamboni #2139
BAAWA Assistant to the Vice-Administrator of Malevolence
EAC Tertiary Adjunct to the Dispenser of Obfuscation.
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| User: "" |
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11 Oct 2005 10:43:56 AM |
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RainLover wrote:
From another thread, I hear Pat Robertson is once again saying the end
of the world is at hand... yeah.... AGAIN.
It got me thinkin'... I also know that the Jehovah's Witnesses keep
prediction the Big Guy's=AE return as well.
Does anyone know if there's a place on the web where someone has a
comprehensive LIST of all of these failed prophecies? Of course...
the list would have to BEGIN with Jesus H. Christ's own prophecy that
he would be returning before his followers of the day died.....
Anyone? I'd love to see this list... with names, dates and places
the quotes / prophecies came from.
Thanks,
James, Seattle
According to the Jewish Talmud the end of the world is in 2240.
http://www.answers.com/topic/end-of-the-world
nafc
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| User: "cirejcon" |
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11 Oct 2005 03:08:33 PM |
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RainLover wrote:
From another thread, I hear Pat Robertson is once again saying the end
of the world is at hand... yeah.... AGAIN.
It got me thinkin'... I also know that the Jehovah's Witnesses keep
prediction the Big Guy's=AE return as well.
Does anyone know if there's a place on the web where someone has a
comprehensive LIST of all of these failed prophecies? Of course...
the list would have to BEGIN with Jesus H. Christ's own prophecy that
he would be returning before his followers of the day died.....
Anyone? I'd love to see this list... with names, dates and places
the quotes / prophecies came from.
Thanks,
James, Seattle
This list isn't complete, but it hits some nice historical high
points, starting well before Christianity:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/apocalypse/etc/cron.html
Unfortunately, it was compiled for the millenium and hasn't been
updtated.
-jc
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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11 Oct 2005 10:48:10 AM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> posting the following on Tue, 11
Oct 2005 07:02:00 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
From another thread, I hear Pat Robertson is once again saying the end
of the world is at hand... yeah.... AGAIN.
It got me thinkin'... I also know that the Jehovah's Witnesses keep
prediction the Big Guy's® return as well.
Does anyone know if there's a place on the web where someone has a
comprehensive LIST of all of these failed prophecies? Of course...
the list would have to BEGIN with Jesus H. Christ's own prophecy that
he would be returning before his followers of the day died.....
Anyone? I'd love to see this list... with names, dates and places
the quotes / prophecies came from.
Thanks,
Enjoy!
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Oracle/9941/
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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