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"justiz" |
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13 Mar 2007 08:08:03 AM |
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Anyone else having problems posting? |
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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| Title: Re: Anyone else having problems posting? |
13 Mar 2007 09:11:45 AM |
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"justiz" <izstanbul@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1173791283.413763.229050@c51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
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Some of my posts don't appear on my computer. It's sort of 'hit or miss' But
on several occasions, I think it was a good thing. Some of my 'missing'
posts were quite 'offensive'. But on the other hand, I think I've shown
great restraint. The treatment I've been on the receiving end out here
almost defies description.
What, exactly, are the 'problems' *you* are experiencing?
Greywolf
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| User: "Lars Eighner" |
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| Title: Re: Anyone else having problems posting? |
13 Mar 2007 09:01:02 AM |
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In our last episode,
<1173791283.413763.229050@c51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
the lovely and talented justiz
broadcast on alt.atheism:
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You are using a web browser, not a newsreader, and googlegroups,
not a newsserver.
What did you expect? googlegroups is a cheap ripoff of USENET.
If you want things to work properly, you have to get the real thing.
--
Lars Eighner <http://larseighner.com/> <http://myspace.com/larseighner>
Countdown: 679 days to go.
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| User: "tirebiter" |
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| Title: Re: Anyone else having problems posting? |
13 Mar 2007 09:26:09 AM |
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Lars Eighner <usenet@larseighner.com> wrote in
news:slrnevdbop.2kjt.usenet@goodwill.larseighner.com:
In our last episode,
<1173791283.413763.229050@c51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
the lovely and talented justiz
broadcast on alt.atheism:
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You are using a web browser, not a newsreader, and googlegroups,
not a newsserver.
What did you expect? googlegroups is a cheap ripoff of USENET.
If you want things to work properly, you have to get the real thing.
That's a bit harsh. Google Groups isn't a "ripoff of Usenet", it's a
Usenet archive. It used to be a company called DejaNews and it has an
archive of all textual Usenet posts for about the last 25 years. Quite the
library. When I have a technical problem, it's the first place I "Google".
Plus, I travel a lot and have to use computers I don't own. I can't access
my home ISP's newsserver, and often can't install a news reader on just any
PC. I don't want to pay for a third party news server with the available
alternative choices.
I'd say that Google Groups grades a solid A overall. To answer justiz, it
has been having problems the last several days, and last night was
particularly bad. I switched back to XNews and frankly, I'm not too
pleased with how it threads the articles.
So, as with all things, to each his own.
---
a.a. #2273
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Anyone else having problems posting? |
13 Mar 2007 10:25:49 PM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, tirebiter <dontspamme@bigfoot.com> bloodied us
up with this:
You are using a web browser, not a newsreader, and googlegroups,
not a newsserver.
What did you expect? googlegroups is a cheap ripoff of USENET.
If you want things to work properly, you have to get the real thing.
That's a bit harsh. Google Groups isn't a "ripoff of Usenet", it's a
Usenet archive.
Right.
I have to admit, Google is a great search engine. I have it set as "home"
in every browser I have contact with. What makes it suck as a Usenet
client is the fact that Usenet is not web-based. Perhaps with a few well-
thought-out tools implanted it could actually approach the useability of
Outlook Express (which is terribly limited, but affords many of us a *real*
Usenet experience). The difference between Google Groups and a designated
newsreader is like... well... Christianity and Reality.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack. Plonked by Fester.
Member Duke Spanking Club.
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| User: "Ben Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: Anyone else having problems posting? |
13 Mar 2007 12:56:17 PM |
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On 13 Mar 2007 14:01:02 GMT, Lars Eighner <usenet@larseighner.com> wrote:
In our last episode,
<1173791283.413763.229050@c51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
the lovely and talented justiz
broadcast on alt.atheism:
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You are using a web browser, not a newsreader, and googlegroups,
not a newsserver.
What did you expect? googlegroups is a cheap ripoff of USENET.
If you want things to work properly, you have to get the real thing.
Actually, I believe that google is also the maintainer of the newsgroup archive.
Ben
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| User: "Ronald More-More Moshki" |
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| Title: Re: Anyone else having problems posting? |
13 Mar 2007 01:28:53 PM |
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On Mar 13, 1:56 pm, Ben Kaufman <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-
doll...@pobox.com> wrote:
On 13 Mar 2007 14:01:02 GMT, Lars Eighner <use...@larseighner.com> wrote:
In our last episode,
<1173791283.413763.229...@c51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
the lovely and talented justiz
broadcast on alt.atheism:
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You are using a web browser, not a newsreader, and googlegroups,
not a newsserver.
What did you expect? googlegroups is a cheap ripoff of USENET.
If you want things to work properly, you have to get the real thing.
Actually, I believe that google is also the maintainer of the newsgroup archive.
Ben
The user profiles have never made any sense on Google.
We are lucky to have it but it's not even close to Dejanews.
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| User: "justiz" |
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| Title: Re: Anyone else having problems posting? |
13 Mar 2007 09:43:15 AM |
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On Mar 13, 4:01 pm, Lars Eighner <use...@larseighner.com> wrote:
In our last episode,
<1173791283.413763.229...@c51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
the lovely and talented justiz
broadcast on alt.atheism:
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You are using a web browser, not a newsreader, and googlegroups,
not a newsserver.
What did you expect? googlegroups is a cheap ripoff of USENET.
If you want things to work properly, you have to get the real thing.
--
Lars Eighner <http://larseighner.com/> <http://myspace.com/larseighner>
Countdown: 679 days to go.
I'll bear that in mind if my stay becomes extended. Thanks for the
advice.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Anyone else having problems posting? |
13 Mar 2007 10:27:07 PM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, "justiz" <izstanbul@gmail.com> bloodied us
up with this:
On Mar 13, 4:01 pm, Lars Eighner <use...@larseighner.com> wrote:
In our last episode,
<1173791283.413763.229...@c51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
the lovely and talented justiz
broadcast on alt.atheism:
?
You are using a web browser, not a newsreader, and googlegroups,
not a newsserver.
What did you expect? googlegroups is a cheap ripoff of USENET.
If you want things to work properly, you have to get the real thing.
--
Lars Eighner <http://larseighner.com/>
<http://myspace.com/larseighner>
Countdown: 679 days to go.
I'll bear that in mind if my stay becomes extended. Thanks for the
advice.
Have you visited the alt.binaries areas? I don't think google will even go
there.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack. Plonked by Fester.
Member Duke Spanking Club.
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| User: "Syd M." |
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| Title: Re: Anyone else having problems posting? |
14 Mar 2007 03:40:33 AM |
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On Mar 13, 11:27 pm, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, "justiz" <izstan...@gmail.com> bloodied us
up with this:
On Mar 13, 4:01 pm, Lars Eighner <use...@larseighner.com> wrote:
In our last episode,
<1173791283.413763.229...@c51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
the lovely and talented justiz
broadcast on alt.atheism:
?
You are using a web browser, not a newsreader, and googlegroups,
not a newsserver.
What did you expect? googlegroups is a cheap ripoff of USENET.
If you want things to work properly, you have to get the real thing.
--
Lars Eighner <http://larseighner.com/>
<http://myspace.com/larseighner>
Countdown: 679 days to go.
I'll bear that in mind if my stay becomes extended. Thanks for the
advice.
Have you visited the alt.binaries areas? I don't think google will even go
there.
I know they don't. I mostly use Google..
PDW, who doesn't have a newsclient, but prolly should..
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: Anyone else having problems posting? |
14 Mar 2007 12:15:47 AM |
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Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> writes:
One fine day in alt.atheism, "justiz" <izstanbul@gmail.com> bloodied us
up with this:
On Mar 13, 4:01 pm, Lars Eighner <use...@larseighner.com> wrote:
In our last episode,
<1173791283.413763.229...@c51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
the lovely and talented justiz
broadcast on alt.atheism:
?
You are using a web browser, not a newsreader, and googlegroups,
not a newsserver.
What did you expect? googlegroups is a cheap ripoff of USENET.
If you want things to work properly, you have to get the real thing.
I'll bear that in mind if my stay becomes extended. Thanks for the
advice.
Have you visited the alt.binaries areas? I don't think google will even go
there.
They learned from DejaNews' experience.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Houston 4, Peoria 3 (SO) (March 10)
NEXT GAME: Friday, March 16 at Toronto, 6:35
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Anyone else having problems posting? |
13 Mar 2007 11:05:20 AM |
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On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:01:02 +0000, Lars Eighner wrote:
In our last episode,
<1173791283.413763.229050@c51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
the lovely and talented justiz
broadcast on alt.atheism:
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You are using a web browser, not a newsreader, and googlegroups,
not a newsserver.
What did you expect? googlegroups is a cheap ripoff of USENET.
If you want things to work properly, you have to get the real thing.
Or you could say it's an archive they've tried (without much success) to
turn into a newsreader. Why they bothered, I don't know. The archive is
useful, the Googly Groups thing is pretty pointless. Not to mention, they
enable trolls and kooks to flee AUPs with abandon...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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13 Mar 2007 11:01:59 AM |
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On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 07:08:03 -0700, justiz wrote:
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Nope. Don't use Google...
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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Anyone else having problems posting? |
13 Mar 2007 10:30:11 PM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> bloodied
us up with this:
Don't use Google...
Good advice, Mark.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack. Plonked by Fester.
Member Duke Spanking Club.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Anyone else having problems posting? |
14 Mar 2007 07:47:06 AM |
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On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:30:11 +0000, Uncle Vic wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> bloodied
us up with this:
Don't use Google...
Good advice, Mark.
Well, that in itself isn't "advice".
There are reasons for using Google (not many in my opinion but they exist)
but if you're going to, you're just going to have to live with problems.
Google simply is *not going to put that much effort into Usenet. It's just
not much of a "profit center".
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Harry F. Leopold" |
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13 Mar 2007 08:29:31 AM |
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On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:08:03 -0500, justiz wrote
(in article <1173791283.413763.229050@c51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>):
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No, just an occasional problem of reading, some posts have not made it to the
server, only the headers have.
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
"You think atoms like having a half-life?"
Incenjucar
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| User: "John Popelish" |
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| Title: Re: Anyone else having problems posting? |
14 Mar 2007 11:06:01 AM |
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justiz wrote:
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This morning, I notice that two of my posts from last night
are not appearing on the Google archive. I don't know if it
is a problem with my ISP, with Google, or with Usenet, in
general. Sometimes these things get sorted out a couple
days late.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Anyone else having problems posting? |
13 Mar 2007 11:03:17 AM |
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On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:06:01 -0500, John Popelish wrote:
justiz wrote:
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This morning, I notice that two of my posts from last night
are not appearing on the Google archive. I don't know if it
is a problem with my ISP, with Google, or with Usenet, in
general. Sometimes these things get sorted out a couple
days late.
Speaking of which, I just discovered that big chunks of 2005 are flat
missing from the Google archive.
Particularly around the time of Katrina...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken
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